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Xenadrine RFA-1
SummaryXenadrine RFA-1 was a discontinued Ephedra-based diet pill. DescriptionXenadrine RFA-1 was one of the most popular brands of Ephedra-based diet pills. It's a stimulant that reduces your appetite and causes you to burn more calories as well. But, Ephedra was banned by the FDA after 2003. It was linked to many deaths. It causes your heart rate and blood pressure to go up. So, it can cause heart-attacks in people with weak hearts. Xenadrine RFA-1 is no longer available in the USA. HistoryXenadrine RFA-1 was made by Cytodyne Technologies. Since it was discontinued, they have put an Ephedra-free product on the market, Xenadrine EFX. CriticismEphedrine has been shown to have serious adverse effects, include hypertension (elevated blood pressure), palpitations (rapid heart rate), neurophathy (nerve damage), myopathy (muscle injury), psychosis, stroke, memory loss, heart rate irregularities, insomnia, nervousness, tremors, seizures, heart attacks, and death. Also, studies have shown that Ephedrine-based supplements only provide short-term weight loss. Tags: appetite-suppressant fat-burner pill stimulant supplements Related Diets: Stimerex Xenadrine EFX Nuphedragen Phentramine Phenhermine |
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| Anonymous916 | posted 25-May-2010 8:01pm @Kel My loss is about the same. I'm at 145...So actually I lost a few more pounds since last time I wrote. I still take a stack twice a day. The effects arent as strong as in the begining but I notice if I forget to take them than I catch my self snacking a lot. So it's still working well for me. My meals are pretty simple and easy since I don't really cook much. For breakfast I usually have 1 cup of Special K cereal w/ 1 cup of non-fat organic milk or Soy milk ( whichever is cheaper when I go grocery shopping ) My lunch & dinner is still the same since I started this a year ago but i like it and it works for me so I stick with it. My lunch & dinner is always chicken breast ( frozen in the bag ) cooked in the foreman grill w/ just pepper and a little garlic salt and a bag of frozen veggies that I just throw in the microwave. This works best for me cause I just put my chicken in the grill veggies in the microwave and get out of the kitchen casue if I hang around in the kitchen I start snacking. For snacks in between I eat apple cinamon rice cakes w/ natural peanut butter, carrots w/ low fat dip, granola bars, apples w/ carmel dip or low fat yogurt etc. One thing I do which I feel makes a big difference is I measure everything out. Like the amount of peanut butter I use, veggie dip, milk, everything. That way I have a more acurate idea of calories. I'm not a big calorie counter I just kinda keep track in my head so I dont go overboard. I only drink water or sometimes diet cherry pepsi. But anything else to me is just waisted calories. And the biggest thing is I dont eat any fast food anymore! That was the hardest but it had to be done and now I dont miss it at all. So anyhow that's an idea of my eating regimen. Like I said earlier I still have my "off" days here in there where I eat out or eat sweets but I just make sure to get right back on track the following day and if I fall off the next day again I just start over the following day after that. As long as you dont keep it going for long and get back on track it usually doesnt take a toll on your weight. |
| Preston | posted 25-May-2010 8:48pm All of us should meet up one day and start a coalition of Ephedra users =P |
| Brad | posted 25-May-2010 9:40pm hahaha that would be interesting, Preston. Anonymous916 and I live in the same city so I guess that would be easy enough. I've been off the stack pretty much this entire year and yesterday I took one Ma Huang pill because I was feeling a little tired on my way back to work from lunch. An hour later I was so amped that I actually got nauseous and threw up. It was weird. I think this weekend I am going to jump on the bronkaid stack to see how that works. |
| kel | posted 26-May-2010 10:44am @Anonymous916 Thanks for the info, that's awesome! I don't know if I could stick to the same lunch and dinner meal for a year, though. I've been branching out on my veggies (spaghetti squash, radishes, red bell peppers) and purchasing alot of fresh produce. It took me 3 days, but this morning I was back to the weight I was before my "bad" weekend, 175.8. Monday was actually my month mark of being on the stack. @Brad While you have been off any stack, did you gain much? |
| Brad | posted 26-May-2010 11:10pm @Kel A little, but nothing substantial. The killer for me is snacking before bed. Other than that, I don't really have any bad habits during the day. |
| Judy | posted 27-May-2010 4:41pm Has anyone here ordered from www.energyreload.net recently? I've read nothing but amazing things about them so I ordered some E&C three days ago and haven't received any shipping information. Just now I checked their website and it no longer exists!! What gives?!?! I'm freaking out because I dropped a pretty large sum of money. Tried emailing them too (the only address I have is the one they emailed me the payment confirmation with: info@snddirect.net) and got an automatic response saying it was rejected by the recipient domain. WTF. |
| KH | posted 29-May-2010 8:32am Judy, Same here, but I did get a tracking number and the only thing it has been saying is that the order has been electronically submitted, not actually recieved. I placed my order on the 23rd, I also tried emailing at info@energyreload.net. and got the same rejected message. Is anyone else having trouble? Judy have you checked with your credit card to see if they actually charged the item to it? |
| Anonymous | posted 1-Jun-2010 4:44pm Judy & KH, I also ordered on the 23rd, and got the same messages. Something is not right because i've ordered from the company for a few years and never had a problem. SOMEONE or SOME-AGENCY seems to be shutting down their business? LKA |
| starstruck | posted 1-Jun-2010 6:20pm Well I just ordered some kaizen ephedra hcl so I'll let you guys know how to it works! I have a low body temp 96.8-97.0 average. I'm pretty sure the only way for me to lose weight is to get the temp up. ephedra is a thermogenic so we'll see how it goes! I had great success with xenadrine rfa-1 in 2002. It sounds like kaizen hcl is the closest type of ephedra to the stuff that was in rfa-1. Correct me if i'm wrong! |
| Judy | posted 2-Jun-2010 5:37pm OK so I spoke too soon--actually it appears that they did NOT take my money and that they stopped the transaction somehow cuz it's no longer even in the "pending" section when I check my statement online, thankfully. This sucks so bad, though. I don't know of anywhere else to get pure ephedrine HCL and I really, really want some. I can't believe how bad my timing was. Are there any other sites out there that aren't scams? Thanks guys for the responses. |
| KH | posted 2-Jun-2010 11:41pm @ starstruck Where did you order from? |
| Anonymous916 | posted 3-Jun-2010 2:42am @Judy When I was on ephedrine HCL I ordered the Kaizen brand which is 8mg tabs in a 50 count bottle for $4.99 through gorilla jack dot com. It comes from canada so shipping is kinda expensive. I think it was like $15 but if you order a bunch of bottles than it would be worth it. I made the mistake of only ordering 2 bottles which lasted less than a month....The shipping was real fast and I had a good experience with them. |
| kel | posted 6-Jun-2010 6:54pm It seems I can not break 10 lbs! I am currently at 9.4 lbs lost since Apr 24th. I added "DailyBurn" to my program to keep track of weight loss, nutrition, and workouts. I signed up for a 30 day Weight Loss Training Plan on DailyBurn so it is kind of like a personal trainer. I started the workout today on the stack and I pushed myself alot harder than I would have without it. |
| kel | posted 9-Jun-2010 4:19pm Well, I finally hit the 10 lbs. mark. I woke up Tuesday and was down a total of 10.4 lbs. The DailyBurn.com site it really helping me keep track of my eating. Hopefully, the addition of working out, healthier eating habits, and DailyBurn.com will push me and the stack to it's fullest potential. |
| KH | posted 11-Jun-2010 7:42am Judy & Anonymous, I still haven't any new info on my order from energyreload.net, tracking still says electronic order recieved and my credit card was charged. Anonymous, did they charge your credit card? Anyone have information if this company changed their name or how to make contact with them ? |
| Brad | posted 14-Jun-2010 5:06pm Okay, today is day 1 of the Bronkaid/Aspirin/Caffeine stack. Took my first dose about an hour ago and it's already hitting hard (but not in a bad way). Dare I even say it elevates my mood? Feels like the perfect amount of energy, appetite suppressant and alertness. Fingers crossed. |
| Shell | posted 14-Jun-2010 5:09pm The same thing has happened to me from energyreload.net. I was charged but never received anything. I called my credit card company but they said they didn't have any information on the company. The only thing they said was that the company was in Virginia. |
| kel | posted 15-Jun-2010 2:47pm @Brad Have you not done the Bronkaid/Aspirin/Caffeine stack in the past? I could have sworn you had. |
| Brad | posted 15-Jun-2010 3:36pm @Kel I have never used Bronkaid as the ephedrine element. I've used HCL in the past. HCL was the first experiment that I tried. It wore off incredibly fast, though. Towards the end of using HCL I was taking almost 50mg of it and it wasn't doing anything for me which is why I stopped. Bronkaid doesn't hit nearly as hard as the Ma Huang that I have. I fell off the wagon because the Ma Huang was just so intense that I couldn't bring myself to take it every day. I really didn't like how jittery it made me. Today being day 2 of Bronkaid, it's much easier to tolerate. Hopefully I'll see some positive results within a week. |
| Anonymous916 | posted 17-Jun-2010 3:53pm Hey Brad, Glad to hear your trying out the Bronkaid. I hope it works well for you. I feel like I've been on this pause for what seems like months now, where I just cant loose any decent amount of weight. I've been around 146-149 for what seems like forever. About 1 1/2 weeks ago I got so discouraged that I started drifting to my old ways and I can feel the weight gain / bloating feeling I used to get from eating unhealthy. So I got back on track 2 days ago and hopefully can stick with it...I'm leaving for vacation in a few days hopefully I can make it through this. |
| Brad | posted 17-Jun-2010 3:55pm @Anonymous916 How much weight have you dropped total using Bronkaid? It sounds to me like your body built up a tolerance to the dose you were taking. Taking the time off that you did should help out when you start it again (which you already have). |
| Anonymous916 | posted 17-Jun-2010 3:56pm @ Kel BTW after reading your post, I just joined the daily burn. I'm reading about it right now to see how it works. |
| kel | posted 18-Jun-2010 4:06pm @Brad Hopefully the lower intensity of Bronkaid will work out well for you. I have noticed my morning dose does get me kind of on edge if I don't have breakfast with it. The moment I have an apple or some cottage cheese, I feel leveled out again. Water also seems to dilute any jitters. If I start feeling super shaky, I down 2 bottles of water and I feel better. @Anonymous916 Let me know what you think about Daily Burn! I have it on my iPod Touch so when I go to the gym I can update it immediately with calories burned, # of sets, # of reps, etc. It makes you stay accountable and aware of what you input and output. Also, I love the daily calorie breakdown pie chart and body weight line graph. |
| Brad | posted 19-Jun-2010 9:10pm Sounds crazy and I'm still a little in disbelief, but I've already dropped between 4-6lbs in just 6 days. I don't trust my scale that much so I can't say for sure what the amount is exactly, but I know for sure pounds have been shed. Fingers crossed that this keeps up. The appetite suppressant is perfect and so is the amount of energy. Wish I would have tried Bronkaid sooner. |
| Anonymous | posted 19-Jun-2010 10:16pm Does Primatine work the same as the Bronkaid for the stack? |
| Brad | posted 20-Jun-2010 12:47am @Anonymous Couldn't say. Being that Primatine is pseudoephedrine and Bronkaid is ephedrine sulfate, they are completely different chemical makeups. |
| Preston | posted 20-Jun-2010 5:05pm Haha! That-a-boy, Brad. Join the darkside of the Bronkaid =P I've been taking it lately, too. Finally made my decision to lose it. I kept losing motivation, but now I typed this letter to myself, put it on my desktop, and I have to read it everyday- haha. It's working so far. Dropped about 4lbs in less than a week's time. I  this forum. |
| kel | posted 21-Jun-2010 10:58am @Brad What appetite suppressant are you taking? Do you feel like the Bronkaid stack is an appetite suppressant? |
| Brad | posted 21-Jun-2010 4:03pm @Kel The ECA stack in general should provide an appetite suppressant. All I am taking right now Bronkaid, Aspring and Caffeine. |
| Brad | posted 21-Jun-2010 9:27pm Aspring? hahaha. Aspirin. |
| kel | posted 22-Jun-2010 12:20pm @Brad I guess I don't feel the appetite suppressant aspect of the Bronkaid stack that much because I didnt think it had it. I made myself think it didnt have that effect so I didnt allow myself to feel it....hmm. |
| xtina | posted 24-Jun-2010 5:12am Love this site..brad, great advice...I too have been looking for a product like xenadrine with ma huang..closest one I founf was yellow bullet...doesn't work as good...and it's the only pill that makes me want to kill someone..lol..maybe too much caffeine? it's nuts..I just bought the xenadrine ultra..I don't understand too much about all the stacking...but I heard you say to buy ma huang pills to take with the xenadrine...first off..do you take 2 xenadrine and 1 ma huang per dose? and what mg ma huang? and where do you buy the ma huang? I know it's sold all over the internet...but is there a solid website with a solid brand you recommend that really is pure ma huang?? any help would be appreciated.. I have 10-15 pounds I just cant seem to get off even with exercise...it's drivin me crazy and making me very unmotivated..HELP BRAD! HELP:) |
| xtina | posted 24-Jun-2010 5:15am I also really need to suppress my appetite...can't find anything that won't make me want to eat my kitchen...lol:) |
| Brad | posted 24-Jun-2010 10:52am @Xtina I feel stupid admitting this, but I don't remember what the site was called where I ordered my ma huang through. I'm sure I posted it on here around the time that I did do it. At the moment I really recommend you try the Bronkaid stack. It can be bought at any CVS pharmacy (or even online). |
| xtina | posted 24-Jun-2010 1:38pm it's ok:) ok..so the bronkaid stack? now what is that exactly? hehe:) Is that what its called? do I take that with the xenadrine ultra? and how many with my xenadrine...so sorry for all the questions..I really dont know much about this stuff:) |
| xtina | posted 24-Jun-2010 7:03pm Brad, I hope you didn't take it the wrong way when I said it's ok...didnt mean your stupid or anything...just that don't feel that way sort of thing when I said it's ok...just want to clarify..:) |
| kel | posted 25-Jun-2010 9:28am Update: lost 15 lbs so far. 44 lbs to go! |
| Brad | posted 25-Jun-2010 9:25pm @Kel What stack are you using? |
| Brad | posted 25-Jun-2010 10:49pm @Xtina No worries. Didn't take offense to anything you said. The Bronkaid stack is just 1 pill of Bronkaid, 1 pill of NoDoz (caffeine) and 1 aspirin. I take it 3 times a day (upon waking up at 8am, 1pm, 4pm). If you're using Xenadrine, I would just take 1 Bronkaid each time you take a Xenadrine. |
| xtina | posted 25-Jun-2010 11:47pm Brad, you are awesome!!!! Thank you! |
| Preston | posted 27-Jun-2010 11:26am Hey Brad, I know you're not a doctor or anything, but since everyone just asks you questions, I'll jump on the bandwagon =P You think it's safe to do 3 ECA stacks a day, using 2 Bronkaids/1 caffeine/1 aspirin? I know you take 1 Bronkaid with your stack, but I've been using 2 since I started (6'3"/230lbs). Max recommended dosage for Bronkaid is no more than 6 per 24 hours, but I don't know if they had ECA stacks in mind when they made the label. I don't really have much tolerance built up or anything (I stopped taking them for like a month, just started back a week or so ago), and I can feel it affecting me for a few hours after I do one, but I just wonder if it will accelerate the process a bit (I have been on pace doing 2 stacks a day, followed by a 1.5mi jog when I get off work everyday. Any insight is appreciated, man. |
| Brad | posted 27-Jun-2010 3:14pm Today, my scale is telling me I've dropped 11lbs since the 14th. @Preston If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't "fix" what isn't broken. If you've only been doing 2 doses a day and you have seen positive results, I don't see a reason to add another dose in there. We all want to see good results as fast as possible and no one can blame anyone for that, but from the sound of it you have a good thing going and I wouldn't play with it. If you take 6 Bronkaid a day, you'll be putting 150mg of ephedrine into your body. That's a lot! People need to keep in mind that your overall health is the most important thing to all of this. Rapid weight loss is a great feeling, but heart problems are not. Be smart and be safe, Preston. |
| kel | posted 29-Jun-2010 4:58pm @Brad The ECA stack I am taking is 2 Bronkaids, 1 NoDoz, and 1 low dose aspirin twice a day. |
| V | posted 30-Jun-2010 9:49pm ok so now i want to jump on the bronkaid bandwagon!! I just don't understand, what makes it so different than the Ma huang we all tried before? Brad - any ideas?? anyone? I'm about to go buy some! |
| Brad | posted 1-Jul-2010 2:40am @V I really don't know. It's just 25mg of ephedrine sulphate per pill. It works really well, though. Definitely better than anything I've tried yet with the exception of Phentermine, but that caused some serious mood issues that weren't worth it. |
| Brad | posted 1-Jul-2010 2:46am Just a side note, I did not mean that the Phentermine helped in weight loss. Just that it supplied a good amount of appetite surpression. The side effects of Phentermine are not worth it. |
| kel | posted 1-Jul-2010 10:05am Update: lost 16.6 lbs so far. 42.8 lbs to go! |
| Brad | posted 1-Jul-2010 4:14pm Congratulations, Kel! How long have you been on this stack? |
| Anonymous | posted 2-Jul-2010 9:28pm Ok You all seem so be having success with the Bronkaid Stack. I was using Primatine instead and had massive energy but no weight loss. I recently switched to the Bronkaid but now I have no energy. It is too soon to determine if I have lost any weight. I am taking 1 Bronkaid, 1 Jet Alert and 1 baby aspirin. Should I up the dose to 2 Bronkaid with the stack? |
| V | posted 3-Jul-2010 11:17am hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm#aspirin dr-bob.org/babble/20011222/msgs/87687.html two GREAT websites on the ECA stack that both discuss hcl and sulfate.... remember to type www. before the site. i tried but this was the only way i could post the link plus, choosing primatene over bronkaid and vice versa i believe just takes some experimenting as to which works better depending on your body. today is day 3 on my stack with the bronkaid and i am overjoyed. remember not to take it right before a work out, but rather 30 min before meals that is when it works best. |
| kel | posted 6-Jul-2010 9:18am @Brad: I've been on the stack since April 24th. I'm not hitting my goal of 10 lbs lost a month but slow and steady wins the race :) |
| Bob | posted 6-Jul-2010 1:09pm I take claritin d for my allergies and noticed it contains pseudoephedrine. I'm curious as to how this might effect someone taking an ECA stack. Anybody have an idea ? Does it effect the body the same way as ephedrine? |
| CookiePuss | posted 6-Jul-2010 1:19pm I don't think anything can compare to the original stacker 2 type products. I lost alot of weight with them years ago but also exercised alot and was roofing. I didn't care much about appetite suppression, it was the energy I liked. I hated the stacker 3--too much caffeine gave me headaches. Thats the thing with most of these imitations today, they have 300mg of caffeine. :( I tried Kaizen ephedrine HCL which did nothing. A very slight boost in energy that faded quickly. Then I tried Yellow ECA which lists Sida Cordifolia (25mg epehdrine group alkaloids) + other junk like caffeine. All it did was give me a headache. I have Bronkaid on the way to give that a whirl. Also, I ordered from energy reloaded without any problems and also from guriella jack which was cheaper. The only other product I was looking at was the original Yellow Bullet. Claims to have Ma Huang (aerial part)(standardized for 25mg of naturally-occurring ephedra group alkaloids). I seen xtina mention it but said it wasnt good? Did you take the one with ma huang or the Ephedra Extract (25 mg Ephedra Nevadensis)one? I know Nevadensis is complete garbage. It really is frustrating though. The original Mu Huang type pills had 5 different ephedra group alkaloids. Ephedrine was supposed to be the most active one which is why I'm stumped as to why the Kaizen HCL didnt do much for me. The FDA really needs to lift this stupid ban. |
| Bob | posted 7-Jul-2010 8:25am Cookie The ephedrine on it's own isn't what everyone is raving about. It's stacking it with the caffeine and the aspirin that is giving everyone the results your reading about. Someone posted links to info on the ECA stacks just a few posts up. Read through them and maybe give them a try since you have the bronkaid on order as it is. Everything else can be bought at your local drug store. |
| V | posted 7-Jul-2010 12:50pm Cookie - the link i posted - the hotnfit one is apparently the go to website for all info bronkaid. i've seen it referenced numerous times on various forums as i spent hours and hours researching the stack as i am not on it and wanted to know the chances of it working. different things work for different people but apparently the consensus is that when taken properly the stack can for most people have beneficial effects. |
| Anonymous | posted 7-Jul-2010 10:22pm Can you buy Bronkaid in Canada? |
| CookiePuss | posted 8-Jul-2010 4:01pm Thanks for the replies. Bob, I do stack with caffeine(Kaizen 200mg) but usually forgo the asprin. I also usually don't take a caffeine pill in the AM since I drink 2-3 cups of strong coffee. The old stacker 2 just gave a clean boost of energy that I cant seem to replace. Too much caffeine gives me a headache and shaky instead of energized. I was just surprised that the Ephedrine HCL+200mg caffeine stack didn't do much for me being that ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are the two main active alkaloids in Mahunag/Stacker2. The herbal ephedra from stacker I took once in the AM and I was good all day. I just got my 2 boxes of Bronkaid in today so I'll see how that goes stacked with a 200mg caffeine pill. I'll probably take it tomorrow morning as it's getting late here. And thanks for the link V, I'm completely new to the world of Bronkaid. |
| V | posted 8-Jul-2010 5:35pm Cookie - no problem! honestly, the links i posted are the best. in fact, i've even read somewhere that some suggest even adding fish oils to promote weightloss and balance out blood pressure. Aspirin is also taken to help even out the rise in blood pressure as a result of the E and C, and really for no other purpose. I take one 325 mg aspirin with one of my two doses a day for that reason, i'm considering the fish oil instead but am in no rush to go out and buy it. additionally, it has been suggested that one could also add green tea to their stack, which i've just begun doing as i have so much of it. i'm not yet up to 3 doses a day as i am very slowly building my tolerance to bronkaid. so far the stack has been working for me... one week down, 4 lbs lost. as women we won't be losing as quickly as Brad or other men because men lose weight at a much faster pace than women do. but i am ecstatic about the 4 lbs as i havent lost that much weight within one week in a long time. i'm hoping to lose 6 lbs within the next 3 weeks which hopefully is feasible which will bring me to a combined weightloss of 15 lbs since May 1st. i'll keep everyone updated. |
| Bob | posted 12-Jul-2010 7:13am I tried going to sndonline.net this morning to order some more ephedrine hcl but the site seems to be down. Has anybody had any experience with gorillajack.com? It's the only other place that's coming up with kaizen hcl. |
| Brad | posted 12-Jul-2010 3:56pm @Bob Can't say for sure, Bob. What about trying the Bronkaid stack? |
| GettinToIt | posted 13-Jul-2010 5:59pm How much aspirin do you take with this stack? like mg? |
| Anonymous | posted 13-Jul-2010 10:33pm gettintoit - i HIGHLY suggest baby aspirin 81 mg. as two regular aspirins REALLY upset the stomach |
| V | posted 13-Jul-2010 10:33pm ooops the above post was from me |
| Bob | posted 14-Jul-2010 12:22pm @ Brad I did the bronkaid stack until i realized i had some of the kaizen hcl still sitting in my cabinet. Turns out i actually had a whole lot more than i realized too so i wont be ordering any in the near future. I had picked up a substantial quantity before taking a break from the xenadrine/hcl combo last year. I've found the hcl to be more potent than the bronkaid even when only taking 2 8mg pills. So far i'm down 30 lbs in the last 3 months. It actually only took 2 to lose all that and from there i've just been getting toned up a bit more. |
| CookiePuss | posted 14-Jul-2010 1:12pm I've ordered from gorillajack twice and had my order within a week both times (Im in the US). They included a free sample, protein shake the first time and I think Gatorade powder the second time. They're a legit company, actually prefer them over snd personally. I've been taking the Bronkaid + Yellow ECA but its just bleh. I can feel a little boost but nothing like the old stuff where I actually WANTED to jump on the treadmill or hit the weights. I guess it just depends on the person, but so far none of the new combos have given me the energy I was hoping for. In any case, congrats on the weight loss you guys achieved and good luck in the future! |
| Brad | posted 14-Jul-2010 9:39pm @Bob That's awesome, Bob! Congratulations on 30lbs! @Cookie If you aren't seeing any results with everything that has been discussed in this thread, you may want to actually go to a doctor to see if you can get Dexedrine. It is mainly prescribed for people who suffer from ADD, but it's second most common reason for being prescribed is for weight loss. The clinical name for it is Dextroamphetamine. Good luck. |
| Bob | posted 15-Jul-2010 8:02am Thanks Brad! Losing all the weight is expensive though. I way to small for most of my old pants now  . I'd like to drop another 10 lbs but it seems that i've reached the weight that my body is comfortable with. So i guess i'll have to settle with just trying to lose that last bit of gut that i've still got. I'm sure if i get a bit more motivated about working out on a more regular basis it'll happen eventually.What ate the rest of you guys doing for exercise along with the eca stack? |
| danes | posted 15-Jul-2010 2:34pm hey Brad I've been reading your posts for few days now from the last few years... very informative i must say. I have a question since you seem quite experienced in Ephedrine stuff now anyways... bronkaid does not contain ephedra sinica which is the potent stuff I believe, right?? do you still recommend bronkaid over kaizen ephedrine HCL?? and does kaizen ephedrine HCL contain sinica or something else?? and where can one get hold of bronkaid outside the US? thanks for all your help Brad, truly wonderful reading through all your posts... |
| Brad | posted 15-Jul-2010 3:33pm @Danes I'm glad to hear that my experiences have helped you out on here. First and foremost, you need to understand that just because one stack works for one person, that doesn't mean it will work for the next person. I personally think the Bronkaid stack is better than anything else I've tried up to this point in trying to mimic the original RFA-1. People like Bob for instance have had better luck with the HCL stack. I know that you can order Bronkaid online, but I don't have any examples for you. A simple search on Google should provide you with useful resources. |
| danes | posted 15-Jul-2010 4:02pm @ Brad just checked out the ingredients and Bronkaid contains theophylline, the exact same ingredient is also found in Do-Do ChestEze avaiable as OTC medicine in the UK together with 18.31 mg of ephedrine. I have read elsewhere that theophylline can really mess one up if taken by healthy people without asthmatic conditions. What are your thoughts on that?? |
| Danes | posted 15-Jul-2010 6:24pm I just can't find a site that ships bronkaid to the UK... :( and bronkaid not available in the UK... sadness |
| Brad | posted 15-Jul-2010 6:48pm @Danes I'm not sure what Bronkaid you saw, but the one I've been taking only contains 25mg of Ephedrine Sulphate and 400mg of Guaifenesin. |
| danes | posted 16-Jul-2010 4:34pm just ordered bronkaid from americarx.com, hope it gets delivered here... fingers crossed... @brad have u tried vasopro??? and yeah sorry my mistake, ure right Bronkaid contains exactly what you stated above... my bad... |
| Brad | posted 16-Jul-2010 10:54pm @Danes I've heard of people using Vasopro, but I've never used it. |
| Brad | posted 17-Jul-2010 1:05pm @Danes After doing a little more digging into Vasopro, it sounds like a complete rip-off. For 25 tablets, the price is $144 on Amazon. It's just 25mg of Ephedrine HCL. |
| danes | posted 17-Jul-2010 1:59pm r u serious... that sure sounds like a scam... |
| Brad | posted 20-Jul-2010 9:30pm As of today, I've lost a total of 20lbs using the Bronkaid stack and it doesn't seem to be slowing down. |
| Anonymous916 | posted 21-Jul-2010 12:29pm @Brad Damnnnn 20lbs!!! Congratulations. You must feel great. I know once I start seeing the scale move it gives me so much more motivation. I was on vacation for 3 weeks and stopped taking the stack just casue I was so busy I didn't stop to think about taking it. And I was also eating however I wanted. I weighed myself when I got back and I didnt gain a pound! I'm sure the stack was still working thoroughout my system. I started again yesterday since I still want to loose 10-15 pounds....But yea, thats hella cool you lost the 20lbs. I havent heard of that much weight loss for you with the other experiments. |
| Brad | posted 21-Jul-2010 3:54pm @Anonymous It's good to splurge once in a while, so I wouldn't feel too bad about having FUN while on VACATION! :) Nothing else has worked as well as this stack (both in price and results). One thing I did find out, though, is to avoid eating bananas when taking this stack (or any other ECA stack). Bananas are very high in B complex vitamins and that acts and a "soother" for your CNS, so it actually kills some of the potency of an ECA stack. |
| Preston | posted 22-Jul-2010 5:50pm Anyone ever experiment with Niacin? |
| Brad | posted 22-Jul-2010 9:52pm @Preston I've used Niacin in the past, but never for the purpose of losing weight. When I was like 19 or 20, my brother in law told me that if you take a large quantity of Niacin it can flush your system of "toxins". It makes your skin really, REALLY warm. Kind of like when you have a sunburn, but without the pain. |
| Anonymous | posted 23-Jul-2010 2:09pm @brad, good to know ure losing weight but can u confirm if you are losing fat or other body weight?? the reason i ask is i used this stack and lost 6 kgs. Before losing my BF was 17%. After I lost 8 kgs my BF is 16.9% but i lost 6kgs (that means I lost muscle and other stuff). And I look so horrible right now, skinny and ugly... was much better before. I actually wanted to lose fat but why is the wrong weight coming off?? I was perfect at 70kgs for my height and age and now I am 62 kgs which makes me look horrible. Had it been fat loss it would have great and superb.... plz help help ..... and yeah i was exercising and weight lifting heavy and takin my proteins and amino acids as well..... losing weight but not fat is what Bronkaid does... |
| Anonymous | posted 23-Jul-2010 2:10pm lost 8 kgs (not 6kgs) |
| Anonymous | posted 23-Jul-2010 4:03pm i think Bronkaid is good for people that need to reduce weight overall(obese or very heavy weight who want to reduce(fat loss or weight loss)... not for people looking for pure fat loss... im prime example... if ure skinny fat or normal weight but want to reduce fat... Bronkaid will reduce your weight but fat will remain the same... in other words u will reduce everything else other than fat... not what people really want... yet people talk about weight loss and not fat loss... keep enjoying weight loss... welcome to the world of skinny fat people... im depressed.... |
| Brad | posted 23-Jul-2010 4:04pm @Anonymous I can confirm with 100% certainty that it has been fat that I have lost. I wear Levi's 511's and have actually had to buy new jeans, a new belt and new shirts since I've been on the Bronkaid stack. If you are losing muscle, but not fat, you are not eating enough. If you starve yourself, your body will burn muscle instead of fat. If you ARE eating enough, maybe you're eating too much or there is something else going on. Just to confirm again, I am losing fat, not muscle. |
| Anonymous | posted 23-Jul-2010 5:18pm @brad it suppressed my appetite so i cudnt eat, how do you manage it. I feel I am not hungry while on the Bronkaid stack, i guess that is why I lost muscle I guess ( if that is muscle, i am not sure). Do you have any tips for me? |
| Preston | posted 23-Jul-2010 5:33pm Been off the ECA stack for a few weeks now to lower my tolerance. Did one this morning and I've been wired and sweaty all day =) I am going to order the Ma Huang again, though- I got crazy results from the Ma Huang- even moreso than the Bronkaid. Glad to hear everyone is getting closer to their goals! Keep the success stories coming. |
| Brad | posted 23-Jul-2010 6:11pm @Anonymous I know it's hard to eat when you don't feel hungry, but I promise you that your body needs food. Also, make sure you eat around the same time every day. And of course the obvious, don't eat fatty foods. |
| Anonymous | posted 23-Jul-2010 6:47pm @brad, can you post your Bronkaid dosage online, like how many mgs u took with how much caffeine number of times everyday (preferably the times u took it during the day). I want to know since u had such good results from it. And as for fatty foods I try to stick to my fish and flax seed oils. Do you eat carbs while taking Bronkaid?? its carbs and not the fat that actually makes one fat? wont u agree?? |
| Anonymous916 | posted 23-Jul-2010 9:25pm I have to agree w/ the person who said that ECA stacks are for those who want to lose weight in general. I lost a little over 50 pounds while taking the stack and the benefits from it are a suppresed appetite and more energy. After awhile of taking it and loosing weight I feel it made me more consious of the type of foods I was eating and helped me become more active, since I had so much energy. I take 1 bronkaid, and 1 200mg caffenie pill ( usually jet alert since it's cheaper than NoDoz ), twice a day. I'm a female, started at 200 pounds now down to about 148. I've noticed the guys usually take it 3 times a day. |
| Brad | posted 23-Jul-2010 9:53pm @Anonymous My routines are generally very, very similar, so I'll post what I did today. However, I have just recently bumped up my dosage to 2 Bronkaids at a time. I recently told someone on here that taking 2 Bronkaids per dose seemed excessive, but I now see where they were coming from (tolerance builds fairly quickly). 8:00: Wake up. Take 2 Bronkaid/1 200mg NoDoz/1 300mg Aspirin. 9:00: I got to work and ate an apricot ClifBar. 12:30: I go home for lunch and take my next dose of 2 Bronkaid/1 200mg NoDoz/1 300mg Aspirin. I had a hard boiled egg and a small serving of cottage cheese for lunch with non sweetened home made iced tea. 4:00: I take my final dose for the day of 2 Bronkaid/1 NoDoz/1 300mg Aspirin and ate a blueberry ClifBar. It is now 6:49 and I will be eating dinner shortly. Not sure what I'm going to eat yet, but it will be less than 600 calories. My total caloric intake for the day is right around the 1200 mark. I also drink about 2 large bottles of Smart Water each day. As far as my opinion on carbs vs. fat, I don't personally look at carbs as an enemy. I don't over indulge in them with pastas and breads, but I don't go out of my way to avoid them. Carbohydrates are converted into energy. Obviously if you are not active, those same carbs are turned into fat if they are not used. It really depends on your lifestyle. If you sit in a chair all day, then I would avoid carbs. |
| danes | posted 24-Jul-2010 7:38pm @brad, congrats on your remarkable results! keep it going bud, you are an inspiration to all of us here and your knowledge and suggestions on different stacks is truly appreciated and indeed very helpful. |
| Jennifer | posted 25-Jul-2010 1:40am I may never find this site again. But i took the original xenedrine for four years maintaining my weight at 120 pounds for four years. It seems nothing works any more and i am so so so disgusted. it seems as soon as the doctors found out that no one had to come to them to lose weight they had something to do with getting it off the market. Ok they give you all these diet aid (prescription) that constipate you and you dont lose weight. With the original formula i drank alot of water and could go to the bathroom. I have been on the diet aid prescription and haven't lost a pound. My blood pressure is up. I think people should raise some hell and get it back!!!!!!! |
| Preston | posted 25-Jul-2010 7:07pm "I think people should raise some hell and get it back!!!!!!" Hell yeah, Jennifer. |
| Brad | posted 26-Jul-2010 1:14am @Danes No thanks is needed. Really. I was in the same shoes as most of you 2 years ago when I found this page. I know how frustrating it is trying to find REAL information on ECA stacks, so I figured this was as good a place as any to start posting that information. :) |
| danes | posted 26-Jul-2010 6:33am @brad, another question... i ordered bronkaid from americarx.com and they are asking for photo identification. Is it safe to email them photo identification. It is for shipment abroad. Did u have to provide photo identification when buying Bronkaid?? |
| Bob | posted 26-Jul-2010 9:36am Danes Yes you do have to provide photo id in the states to get bronkaid. I've taken 2 weeks off of the stack. I started feeling sick a couple weeks ago so i stopped all together. Being sick for a week ended up causing my to lose 5 lbs and get be under 180, which i had been trying to do unsuccessfully. I started the stack back up this morning using bronkaid instead of the hcl so we'll see how this goes. I also slacked off on exercise while sick so i'm starting that back up today as well. I'd like to get down to a lean 170 if i could. But maybe that just isn't possible. |
| danes | posted 26-Jul-2010 3:42pm thanks, but is there a problem sending photo id to americarx.com. I know someone who did and he started gettin calls from agents where he got Bronkaid and all... dont know if he really did but thats what i heard... |
| Brad | posted 26-Jul-2010 4:02pm Bob is 100% correct. You have to show your ID here in the US in order to purchase any product that contrains ephedrine or pseudoephedrine. You are only allowed to purchase up to 9 grams in any 30 day period (1 box of 60 Bronkaid equals 1.5 grams). It has to do with limiting people access to the main ingredient in Methamphetamine. @Bob It sounds like you and I are aiming for the same goal (170lbs). Fingers crossed for you! |
| danes | posted 27-Jul-2010 5:36am ordered Bronkaid from americarx.com, first they ask for photo id, when i sent them photo id they cancelled the order saying cannot ship due to export regulations... what a lovely service, absolute genius... couldn't have let me known before that they could not ship... now i have to wait god knows how many days before my card gets refunded ( if it ever does) fingers crossed... Bottom Line... Bronkaid cannot be shipped from the US to UK... period... |
| Bob | posted 27-Jul-2010 9:37am Brad I'll keep mine crossed for you too! |
| Bob | posted 27-Jul-2010 12:01pm Brad Is there a reason you take the regular 300 mg aspirins as compared to the recommended 81 mg ones? |
| Brad | posted 27-Jul-2010 4:09pm @Danes I'm sorry to hear that. What I would if I was you is I would go to my local drug store and ask them what OTC asthma medications they have because Bronkaid is technically just for asthma and all OTC asthma medications contain either ephedrine or pseudoephedrine. @Bob No particular reason. I went to Tahoe for the 4th of July and ran out of aspirin while I was there. I went to a CVS and this is all they had so that's why I've been taking it. |
| V | posted 27-Jul-2010 11:40pm guys seriously with the aspirin BE CAREFUL. 325 3 x a day is close to the max a person should have. i took 2 2x a day a had stomach bleeding. that is TOO MUCH aspirin for someone's stomach. especially since we're all taking it prior to eating. if your taking the stack as you eat then it might be fine, but seriously, be careful. STICK TO BABY ASPIRIN. i am warning you, don't allow what happened to me happen to you. you don't even need it anyway, it merely keeps your blood pressure down, it has no dietary purposes whatsoever |
| Brad | posted 28-Jul-2010 12:59am Aspirin is included in the ECA stack to help prolong the effects of ephedrine. Basically as a normalizing procedure the body reacts to ephedrine by producing prostaglandins and adenosine outside the cell, and phosphodiesterase inside the cell. Inside the cell, it has been found that methylxanthines, like caffeine, inhibit the activities of phosphodiesterase. Stimulation of the beta receptors by ephedrine (via noradrenaline) causes an increase of cAMP (cyclic adenosine monophosphate) within the cell. This crucial part of the process that leads to thermogenesis is vulnerable because cAMP is degraded by phosphodiesterase. Outside the cell, aspirin inhibits the peripheral synthesis of prostaglandins. Prostaglandins inhibit the release of noradrenaline in the synaptic junction (before receptor stimulation). So in other words without aspirin (and caffeine), the beta agonistic qualities of ephedrine (via noradrenaline) are practically negated by prostaglandins. Thermogenesis is prolonged because aspirin interferes with this negative feedback mechanism. Also, 325mg of aspirin is considered a normal dose. ;) |
| Bob | posted 28-Jul-2010 1:52pm Brad It was my understanding that the aspirin was also to help thin the blood as the caffeine and ephedrine both raise your blood pressure and thinner blood can help counter that. V is right, almost 1000mg of aspirin a day is way too much. 1 of your doses is bigger than 3 of ours Brad. I'd be careful with that; |
| Brad | posted 28-Jul-2010 4:05pm @Bob You are also correct, Bob. It does help lower your blood pressure, but that is not the main reason why it is used in the stack. I also appreciate everyones concern with me taking 975mg of aspirin a day, but please keep in mind that the maximum dosage that should never be exceeded is 4grams (4,000mg). I am no where near the maximum recommended dosage. |
| V | posted 29-Jul-2010 11:44am Brad - we're just trying to look out for you in the same way you always look out for us. I hear the max dosage is 1000mg?? just be careful, obviously you know what you're doing, and i know aspirin is essential for the stack (although now i'm not exactly sure why as i've read different things than you have) but for the rest of us, we might just stick to baby aspirin instead. my stomach bleeding due to aspirin is not something i wish anyone on this forum to suffer from |
| Brad | posted 29-Jul-2010 4:08pm @V I get that and I REALLY do appreciate it. I didn't mean for my previous post to come across as defensive. Like I've said many times on here, health is the most important factor to all of this. I definitely wouldn't be taking something if it was doing more harm than good. :) As far as max daily dosage, I've read several different variations. Some "medical" sites claim 4 grams and others claim 8 grams. WebMD says 4 grams, so I trust that over the other sites that say 8 grams. |
| Bob | posted 30-Jul-2010 10:55am Brad Just be careful with all of that. We'd like to keep you and your knowledge around here for a while longer. I'm down a total of 33 lbs to date! I've gone down 3 notches on my belt, my new pants are now even too big for me, my gut is practically non-existant compared to what it was, although there's still a bit i'd like to get rid of. I currently weigh in @ 177 lbs. As i'm 6'1"-6'2" i think 170 lbs might be a bit low for me but since i've still got a bit of obvious fat on me i'm sure there's more room to go. Between the ECA stack and the p90x i'm seeing muscles get bigger and better defined to. Too bad i don't seem to have the drive to stick with it 100%. I'm sure results would come even faster. Perhaps one of you guys would like to give the program a try too so we can compare results? |
| Brad | posted 30-Jul-2010 4:02pm @Bob Now you've got my interest piqued on P90X. What's the deal with it exactly? |
| Bob | posted 31-Jul-2010 11:47am It's an intense 90 day work out routine. Monday through Saturday you work out once a day for 1-1 12 hours, though there is a doubles routine where you do cardio in the morning and the regular workout the afternoon. It also includes meal plans for for the entire length of the program but i never followed them as i'm a picky eater. You'll need some sort of free weights or resistance bands (you can get the bands for 20 bux shipped off ebay). A pull up bar is helpful though you can use the bands in it's place. Last year when i was taking the xen/hcl combo i went through the 90 days and lost around 25 lbs as well as getting more flexible and more toned. This time i've lost 33 lbs total and getting even more toned as i didn't lose all the muscle i developed last time. The workouts are VERY intense. Don't be surprised if you find our having to stop half way through one in the first week because you almost work yourself to being sick. in the regular singles routine you do 3 days of "lifting" and 3 days of cardio. Every month the lifting routines/muscle groups worked together get changed. They call it muscle confusion. Muscles get used to doing the same exercise over and over and being worked in combination with other muscle groups so they change them up in the program for faster results. I'm sure i sound like a salesman here but the first time around i got in the beast shape i had been in years. And right now, even though i'm only 1 1/2 months back into it i'm already in better physical appearance than i was last time around. Another nice thing about it is you do the workouts at home. I can't speak for everyone but when i was out of shape i didn't really want to go to the gym and start working out in front of people so that part really appealed to me. The program is made by a company called beach body. Their website is their www.beachbody.com and it can do a better job of explaining everything than i just have. The program will run you around 120 bux if you buy it from them but there are places on the internet one can find all the workout routines and all the documents (meal plans, workout tracking forms, etc) for free but that isn't something i'd care to port up on a public form. |
| Preston | posted 2-Aug-2010 7:45pm I ordered the Pure Ma Huang off of ephedraoutlet.com, and just got the bottle the other day. It's not the one made by Energy Nutrition (the one that I saw crazy results from), because they said they don't carry that anymore. The new one is made by Sports One. I've done 4 stacks since I got the bottle, and I don't really feel anything! The Ma Huang from Energy Nutrition whooped my ass, man- just from taking one capsule. I take 2 of these and don't feel all jacked like I did before. Furthermore, there are different colored capsules, and upon breaking one open, it tastes like some sort of powered cinnamon. Is there any way that it's not really what it says on the label? It just doesn't have the same effect =/ |
| Brad | posted 5-Aug-2010 10:06pm @Bob Well damn. That sounds pretty intense. Seems like you wouldn't even need an ECA stack with that. @Preston That's a bummer. I'm sorry to hear that. Sports One is a fairly reputable company, so I would be a little surprised if they were selling fake pills. Could be a knock off company, though. |
| Kel | posted 6-Aug-2010 9:30am I'm down 20.6 lbs; I started this ECA stack on Apr 24. It feels like the loss is slower than everyone else’s. I'm being told the slower weight loss is healthier and the ratio of keeping it off is higher, but the people telling me that don’t know I am on an ECA stack. Is it time to take a break from this stack? I've been on it a little over 3 months. I've taken weekends off here and there during those 3+ months. I fear if I take a month or so off, everything is going to pile back on. I still feel effects from it so I haven’t become immune to its effects yet. I have another 38.8 lbs to go. I've lowered my goal to 125, not 130lbs. I still log my food into DailyBurn.com everyday and keep my caloric intake around or under 1200. I haven’t been working out lately because I don’t want to starve my body by burning off any of the 1200 calories. Does that make sense? Should I eat more so I can workout? |
| Brad | posted 6-Aug-2010 4:16pm @Kel Weight loss always happens fast at first. The more you need to lose, the faster it will happen. Men tend to lose weight easier than women as well. It's always a good idea to take a week off from the stack every once in a while to keep from building a high tolerance. Also, the weight will not come back if you continue to eat healthy and don't over eat. |
| Alt | posted 7-Aug-2010 8:38am @Brad (and anyone else that is knowledgeable)...what is your take on my purchase of pure ephedra sinica powder and capping them with size "0" capsules? Any idea on dosage schedule or effectiveness? Each "0" capsule holds 400 mg - 800 mg or so. I'd rather cap it than make tea out of it - it tastes pretty nasty as tea. I've searched everywhere for input, but this forum and reading everyones messages, made me want to ask here. Also, I too took original xenadrine rfa-1 back in the early 00's and haven't been satisfied with anything close in comparison...Oh also, P90X is awesome, but I switched over to INSANITY ;) it's a lot more insane, plus no equipment needed...look forward to hearing from you guys! Thanks! [Alt] |
| Bob | posted 7-Aug-2010 11:13am Brad It is pretty damn intense. If i could actually stick with it 100% all the time your probably right, the eca stack wouldn't be needed. It's hard to find that time every day to work out like the program requires and i'm a picky eater so the diet that goes along with it isn't something i'm too pleased with. Alt Are you seeing better results with Insanity? I was looking into it as the workouts are shorter but being that it's all cardio how is more muscle mass made? |
| Alt | posted 7-Aug-2010 3:46pm @Bob its good for burning fat, not so much on building muscle mass - however, I've heard people mix and match with P90x and Insanity for more ripped results. |
| Alt | posted 7-Aug-2010 10:30pm More research: So 'stacking'...I'm just more concerned about the dosage of the ephedra pill, a '0' capsule can hold about 500mg, how much is that of the pure alkaloids? And if I stack that with caffeine and aspirin? I found this: "The dosage for ECA: 25 mgs of ephedrine and 200 mgs of caffeine are the central ingredients. Aspirin is supposed to add to the stack's effectiveness by decreasing the body's natural resistance to the stimulant effects. The more I've researched, however, the less I'm convinced that it is necessary or helpful. I can only say from personal experience that aspirin seems to make little or no difference. If you decide to use aspirin, I would recommend the smaller dosage/pills ("baby aspirin"). I think taking three adult aspirin a day for several days is not a good idea. The stack can be taken 2-3 times a day, depending on one's tolerance. The first dose is usually taken in the morning, and subsequent doses are spread out over 4-6 hours. The ECA stack should never be taken late in the afternoon (after 3-4 p.m.) as this will cause insomnia. NOTE: I recommend that you buy Ephedrine HCL 25 mg tablets, not Ephreda or Ma Huang (herbal), not anything that mentions "alkaloids." As I've said, the herbal forms just aren't as effective, and you can't always be sure of the exact dosage you'll be getting of the active ingredients." |
| Kel | posted 9-Aug-2010 11:12am @Brad Do you think the few weekends here and there I've taken off from the stack is enough? I take two doses a day and, like I said earlier, still feel the effects. I hope you are right about the healthy eating habits and not gaining the weight back. I would hate to back track! I'm down to 159.8, finally got it into the 150's! Total weight loss thus far: 24.6 lbs. |
| Brad | posted 9-Aug-2010 3:29pm @Kel There are only 2 reasons why you would gain the weight back: 1.) You are taking in more calories than you burn. So eating healthy when not on the stack is a huge factor in keeping the weight off. Hopefully during the process of taking the ECA stack you are training yourself with these habbits. 2.) Your body naturally has a slow metabolism or some other form of genetics that causes you to be heavier. Congratulations on breaking into the 150's! That's awesome. Keep up the good work! |
| Spud | posted 17-Aug-2010 7:56pm How do you use this diet. How often do you take each pill and how many of each pill everyday and for how long? Seems to me you would be wired to the max taking No Doz and it would be hard to function at work. Seems this would raise my blood pressure too and I'm on hbp medication. |
| Spud | posted 17-Aug-2010 7:59pm I should have specified, I am talking about the bronkaid, baby aspirin and Nodoz combination people are talking about that mimics the effects of phen-fen. |
| Brad | posted 17-Aug-2010 10:09pm @Spud Every question you have has been answered many, many times already. You would be much better off going back several pages and reading the responses. |
| Spud | posted 18-Aug-2010 10:20pm Sorry, it's just hard to decipher it all--some talk about Xenadrine, some talk about ephedrine, an ECA stack--I just don't understand what it all is and how you take it that's why I asked. |
| Brad | posted 18-Aug-2010 10:54pm @Spud Yeah, this forum isn't structured that well at all, so I completely understand how it can feel daunting. If you travel back to around October of 2008, that's where a good majority of everything you'll need to know starts. Take your time reading through it all. You have some very good questions that can definitely be answered by me, but you should definitely get the opinion and feel from everyone else as well. One thing stays a constant throughout all of this and that is just because one thing works for one person, it does not mean with will work for someone else. You'll read about several different stacks and MANY experiences from several regulars on here. :) |
| Brad | posted 18-Aug-2010 10:56pm @Spud Also, I apologize if my first response to you a couple of days ago came off in a negative way. I just re-read it and I feel bad because that's the tone that I get from it. I did not mean it in a negative way at all. My apologies. |
| Bob | posted 19-Aug-2010 4:41am There goes Brad owning noobz again  |
| Brad | posted 19-Aug-2010 4:01pm @Bob I still feel bad for the way it came across haha |
| Bob | posted 24-Aug-2010 7:23am Nothin too worry about. Everybody knows the internet is serious business. |
| Preston | posted 25-Aug-2010 11:13am Ephedra is serious business. |
| Brad | posted 27-Aug-2010 4:09pm Yes it is. How is everyone doing? |
| Preston | posted 28-Aug-2010 7:50pm Man.. I'm so upset that ephedraoutlet.com stopped selling the Pure Ma Huang by Energy Nutrition. The only reason I had even spent the money on it the first time, was because you tried it, Brad. Now, after receiving pills that say they contain pure Ma Huang on the label, but do NOTHING for me (and I know it's not tolerance), I'm afraid to try buying any other brand =/ |
| Brad | posted 29-Aug-2010 1:11pm I'm sorry to hear that, Preston. I still have about a 1/3 of the bottle I bought from them. I wonder why they stopped carrying that brand. Have you looked anywhere else to see if someone else sells it? |
| Alt | posted 1-Sep-2010 2:26am here is my update on my EC/STACK regime: > bought a pound of organic ephedra powder (ephedra sinica)(certified organic/earth kosher)(harvested august 2010) > bought 500 empty capsules and a capsule machine - made ephedra capsules. > bought 200mg caffeine pills > created dosage/nutrition/workout schedule/calendar for the next 3 months. > did a coffee colonic day before start -- starting weight: 175lbs(female) goal: 130lbs > week one dosage: 1E/1C in the morning for 7 days. > week two dosage: 1E/1C in the morning and in the afternoon (6hrs later) > week three dosage: 2E/1C in the morning and in the afternoon (6hrs later)...same for week four. > workout every other day (I just wanted to work my core, so I am doing INSANITY Cardio Abs) > week five dosage: take a break/cycle off, continue workout. > week six, seven, eight, nine dosage: 2E/1C in the morning and in the afternoon (6hrs later) > week ten: take a break/cycle off .....and so forth until I reach my desired weight goal - will update the forum as the following weeks emerge. |
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