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Xenadrine RFA-1
SummaryXenadrine RFA-1 was a discontinued Ephedra-based diet pill. DescriptionXenadrine RFA-1 was one of the most popular brands of Ephedra-based diet pills. It's a stimulant that reduces your appetite and causes you to burn more calories as well. But, Ephedra was banned by the FDA after 2003. It was linked to many deaths. It causes your heart rate and blood pressure to go up. So, it can cause heart-attacks in people with weak hearts. Xenadrine RFA-1 is no longer available in the USA. HistoryXenadrine RFA-1 was made by Cytodyne Technologies. Since it was discontinued, they have put an Ephedra-free product on the market, Xenadrine EFX. CriticismEphedrine has been shown to have serious adverse effects, include hypertension (elevated blood pressure), palpitations (rapid heart rate), neurophathy (nerve damage), myopathy (muscle injury), psychosis, stroke, memory loss, heart rate irregularities, insomnia, nervousness, tremors, seizures, heart attacks, and death. Also, studies have shown that Ephedrine-based supplements only provide short-term weight loss. Tags: appetite-suppressant fat-burner pill stimulant supplements Related Diets: Stimerex Xenadrine EFX Nuphedragen Phentramine Phenhermine |
| Anonymous | posted 9-Jul-2006 3:03pm my friend use to take these pills and it really work until one day he was having heart problems and having hard time to breath so he stop |
bill | posted 9-Jul-2006 9:43pm I've heard a lot of people say Ephedra works... it's too bad it's so dangerous (apparently). |
| Anonymous | posted 3-Dec-2006 12:33am i lost 60 lbs taking xenadrine rfa 1 and wish that i could find it somewhere!!! I've aeen in in auctions but for over a hundred dollars! thats crazy but worth it. Everything we take or do in life has cautions! It needs to go back on the market!!! |
| Anonymous | posted 20-Dec-2006 3:52pm I also took xenadrine rfa-1 after I had a baby and lost 62 lbs with it, and I continued to take it right up till it was banned. I never, ever had any adverse effects from it! No jitters, no heart problems...Since then i gained 12 lbs back and have not been able to lose them no matter what I ate or worked out and now that I'm older (11 yrs since I first took it) it's getting harder to keep the weight off. I too wish it would come back on the market. Never seen it at auction but if I did I would buy it in a heart beat!!! |
| Anonymous | posted 20-Feb-2007 10:48pm I really enjoyed xenadrine rfa-1, and I too was sad when it was banned. It gave me the energy I needed to climb out of a deep depression and start taking care of myself again. Yeah I lost about 70 lbs. roughly and did not gain then back. I can understand the controversy surrounding this ingredient, there are side effects, but side effects much worse than these accompany numerous prescription medications prescribed every day by doctors. I have taken a few prescription medications listing horrific side effects and when I addressed them with my doctor I was told that the side effects outweigh the benefits of the pills. This is how I feel about ephedrine. I think that people are seeing this as an herbal supplement and therefore overlooking the suggested dosage, but just like with prescription meds if you abuse them you will have complications. |
| Anonymous | posted 22-Apr-2007 12:34pm i have also have taken xenadrine rfa. it help me lose weight and curve appetite. i was 160 to 130 and a size four for my wedding. my advice to the people that was abusing the pills and did not get themselves check by their doctor regularly think before using the pills, dont touch any more diet pills ,do your research first, see your doctor for examination. i am working even harder since the pills been banned, i have been trying other diet pills and they dont work. now i am ordering them from the company. |
| Anonymous | posted 12-Oct-2007 11:56pm Xenadrine RFA was by far the most incredible fat burner ever created. I took it for several years and felt fine. It worked well and assisted me with maintaining an incredible figure. The FDA or whomever need to re-evaluate their decision to ban this product. It is amazing to me when you hear the commercials on TV about pills that have been created for high cholestrol, impotence, etc... and the side effects sound worse then the problem, BUT those pills are OK. I'm sorry if ephedra was suspect in some individuals deaths, but so are these other pills that are prescribed daily by doctors. If the FDA banned all pills that killed people, there would be no pills left for anything, even headaches. It all has to do with MONEY!!! Bring back Xenadrine RFA..... |
| Anonymous | posted 12-Feb-2008 7:20pm where can you find xenzdrine rfa? |
| shostopr | posted 19-Feb-2008 2:09pm I took Xenadrine RFA & it was the best thing I ever did! I am so so sad that it was taken off the market. They say there is no such thing as a Miracle Pill? Well.... they are wrong, there was one & it was Xenadrine RFA & just like always when something works good they have to jack it up! |
| Rozko | posted 24-Mar-2008 2:28pm U can actually get megadrine rfa-1 on the sites which is the exact same product :) Mysupplementshop or mysupplementstore.com has them :) |
| Anonymous | posted 31-Mar-2008 7:28pm I took it and lost 50 pounds in about 3 or 4 months, I miss the stuff really bad, Ive seen similiar products that claim they are the same as the original product... I dont know but Im thinking of trying it, you can find similiar products just by doing google searches |
| Anonymous | posted 15-Apr-2008 5:04pm I used to take Xenadrine RFA-1 and achieved awesome, awesome results. I did have the jitters at first until my body adapted to it, but then I was fine. Best weight loss/fat buring supplement ever!!!! Would pay double than I did before! |
| Anonymous | posted 17-Jun-2008 6:08pm Can u find Xenadrine rfa-1 anywhere? |
| Anonymous | posted 27-Jul-2008 4:00pm I took it a few years back and I dropped about 35 pounds in about a month and a half. It worked like a charm...I wish I could find it now. |
| Anonymous | posted 23-Sep-2008 10:59pm They put it back on the market.I just bought it today at Albertsons ( grocery store) I will be starting it tomorrow. wish me luck! btw- it cost me 28$ for 60 pills... |
| Sarabellum | posted 25-Sep-2008 4:45pm I actually found it at Walmart yesterday for $20 for 60 pills...strange though, I found it sitting with the vitamins and nowhere near the weightloss pills...AND it was the only one of it's kind. |
| Anonymous | posted 25-Sep-2008 6:24pm Sarabellum, is it Xenadrine RFA-1 or Xenadrine EFX? EFX is still on the market because it doesn't contain Ephedrine. I just did a search on Walmarts website and they didn't have anything. |
| Brad | posted 25-Sep-2008 6:58pm I used to use RFA-1 as well and I lost close to 50lbs in a 4 months period. I was really bummed when it was taken off the market. I actually went into a GNC the day it was removed and that's how I found out it was gone. BUT, but for those of you who wish you could still take it, you can. If you do research on why RFA-1 worked you'll find out it was because it was based around the ECA stack. The ECA stack is 20mg of Ephedrine HCL/200mg of Caffeine/300mg of Asprin. All of the other ingredients were basically just the frosting on the caked (the cake being the ECA stack). So basically what I'm saying is that you can make this at home for a fraction of what RFA-1 used to cost. You can go to sndonline.net to buy pure Ephedrine HCL You can buy 200mg caffeine pills at your local supermarket along with asprin So far it's working great for me. |
| Anonymous | posted 25-Sep-2008 7:43pm Okay, I did a little more research in regards to those that claim to have purchased RFA-1 recently. It is indeed back on the market, but it is NOT the same as it used to be. There is no Ephedrine in it (which is why it worked so well). Also, it is not made by the same company anymore. It used to be made by CYTODYNE and is now being made by CYTOGENIX. So it looks as if another company has simply just bought the Xenadrine RFA-1 name and slapped it on their bottle. I've looked for reviews of this new version, but can't find them anywhere. So once again, IT IS NOT THE SAME THING AS IT USED TO BE! Also, to Brad above me who recommended the ECA stack, I did some research on that as well and I am going to give it a try. |
| Anonymous | posted 30-Sep-2008 8:19pm i also have used the old rfa-1 i lost 30 pounds in 1 month and my cousin used it and lost 100 pounds in like 6 months and kept it off its been 5 years now sence then ive had two kids and ive tried everything nothing works like rfa-1 i would pay anything for the original but its long gone :( |
| Carol | posted 4-Oct-2008 4:58pm I also used to take Xenadrine RFA-1 and lost 30 lbs. I only ever took half of the recommended dosage and I lost all of the weight really fast. Obviously I was ticked when I couldnt buy it any more and have since gained the 30 lbs back. I would like to comment on what Rozko stated above that you can buy Megadrine RFA-1 as it is exactly the same thing. I can assure you, Megadrine RFA-1 is *NOT* the same as the original Xenadrine RFA-1. In fact, most products hat claim to be same as Xenadrine are not and it's because of one reason; Xenadrine used Ephedrine alkaloids and these other products use ephedra extract. It is the alkaloids that make the difference. Do not be fooled. I have spent tons of money trying these products that claim to be exactly the same as Xenadrine only to be let down time and again which is why I started doing my research and learned what the difference was....it is the ALKALOIDS that make the product work. I have since found products on the internet with alkaloids that do work, they just arent as good as Xenadrine was but they are doing something... |
| Anonymous | posted 6-Oct-2008 7:57am I used xenadrine rfa years ago and lost about 70 pounds. I have used all kinds of diets since they took it off the market and still havent found anything like it. I need xenadrine rfa because it was like a miracle in a bottle. No diet no exercise no surgery it don't get not better than that. |
| Lee | posted 8-Oct-2008 5:46am I've lost over 50 lbs in the first year I used Xenadrine RFA and kept it off. I've lost a total of over 75 lbs to date. That stuff worked for me without any side effects. Where can I find it? Or are there any diet pill products that works the same way? |
| Heather | posted 10-Oct-2008 11:42pm Brad. I looked up the stuff you were talking about. How do you go about taking it? Do u take them all as seperate pills or what? What MG of Ephedrine HCL did you purchase and what results have you gotten from it? I just want to know because if it really does work Id love to try it as soon as possible. Hope you can help me! also has anyone researched these pills called "yellow bullets" if you read the label it says that it contains Mu Haung Ephedra, not Ephedra Extract (leaves) like most of the other products, it seems promising but I dont want to waste money on it if its worthless. Let me know. Thanks. |
| Vader | posted 15-Oct-2008 1:07am I took the old rfa-1 years ago, 2002 was the last time, and it was awesome, dropped 80lbs in 3 months. But, I do think my PVC's (look it up, its a heart murmur type thing) began because of this product. I dont think i would use ephedra again, but I may ask my doc about this new product. |
| Anissa | posted 17-Oct-2008 12:12pm I used xenadrine rfa-1 when i was only 16yr. I had gained over 25 pounds in 1 mth after i found out i was pregnant and i had an abortion. I was depressed and i ended up losing 85 lbs in 3-4 mths after I starting to take the drug. I never had a problem with my breathing or anything, but i tell you if it wasn't for the drug i would have killed myself because i felt hopeless and fat. I wish they would put it back on the market. I think the ones who had complications were people who have history of those complications already either by famil or life style. |
| Brad | posted 18-Oct-2008 4:14pm Heather- I have heard of "Yellow Bullets" but I don't personally know anyone who has purchased/ordered them. Like someone posted above you, make sure you read the fine print. Even though a product says that it contains ephedrine or ephedra, doesn't mean that it's the right kind (as in the same that was in RFA-1). From the looks of it, the Yellow Bullets seem legit and could possibly be the same as RFA-1. As far as the ECA stack and my experience with it: The site I originally quoted on here (sndonline.net), you can purchased Ephedrine HCL through them. I wouldn't recommend buying anything other than the Kaizen brand though. Kaizen is a very reputable company that makes many, many different diet and workout supplements. You can do a search on them through Google and see for yourself. Now here's the kicker when buying epehdrine HCL online. If you live in the United States, you have to order it through a Canadian based company and have it shipped to you. There is NO WHERE (that I know of) in the U.S. that sells epehdrine HCL (legally). It is illegal for ANY diet supplement to contain Ephedrine or Ephedra in the U.S. due to the FDA ban, hence why everything has to be purchased from Canada. Now that you understand that, also know that in Canada it is illegal to make any ephedrine pills containing more than 8mg of ephedrine HCL. So if you see somewhere offering more than 8mg tablet, stay away. They might be legit in the sense that they are real, but they are not legal. If it's not legal, then it probably wasn't made by a reputable company. So stick with Kaizen. It is 100% pure ephedrine HCL in 8mg tablets. Now on to dosing, I am taking three doses daily right now. 1 when I wake up, 1 around noonish and the last one around 4 pm. Each dose that I take contains 24mg of Ephedrine HCL (3 Kaizen tablets) / 200mg of caffeine (1 No Doze tablet) / and 1 325mg Asprin (Generic, no name brand). I have been taking this formula for about a week now and it has the same effect that RFA-1 had. My appetite is completely gone, loads of energy. However, my scale says that I have only lost about 3-5lbs this week. It's hard to tell yet whether that is just water weight, or actually body fat. My jeans do seem to be a little looser though. It's still too early to really know if it's working or not. If you wanted, you could always go and buy Xenadrine RFA-1 (this is the new formula that is being sold without ephedra). Order some Kaizen ephedrine online and then take those with the Xenadrine which would give you exactly what it used to be. Hope this helps. |
| heather | posted 21-Oct-2008 1:26am Brad..thanks for your help. let me know how it works after a little bit of time. a friend of mine told me he bought pure ephedra hcl on a website "buyvasoproephedrine.com" he said that a friend of his lost 75lbs in 2 months using the 30mg pills, and my friend himself is losing weight quickly. I dont know if you want to check it out and tell me what you think. I just want to make sure I am reading and understanding this correctly..can i order the kaizen straight from the sndonline website? or do i have to do something else? sorry if i seem slow lol. |
| Dan | posted 22-Oct-2008 10:35pm Brad, how has the doses worked this week? I was given the recommendation to try Lipodrene with Ephedra. it is the extract type. Know anything about this? I feel the appetite suppressant effects, and if i take 2 tablets, the old xenadrine rfa jittery feeling comes back to me. I have decent energy too, but i would like to get the ephedra alkaloids. I checked that web site you mentioned with the 8mg kaizen. if i understand you correctly, you are taking 3 8mg tablets three times a day? let me know, thanks, Dan |
| Anonymous | posted 30-Oct-2008 1:03am So has anyone had any results with the "NEW" Xenodrine RFA-1? Is it really the same as the original formula? |
| Anonymous | posted 30-Oct-2008 6:09pm I lost about 35 pounds with the original formula in 2002 in one summer. Then, afterwards, the new formula gave me really bad side effects. Since I've started taking the new RFA, I've noticed that I do not feel the same as the original formula and in fact, my experiences are pretty similar to the EFX. I think I will d/c it because of the SE |
| Anonymous | posted 31-Oct-2008 3:48pm I'm currently taking the new RFA 1 and it's horrible...Constant pain and I've only been taking it for a week and a half. Side effects include, SEVERE nausea, constant headaches, vomiting, dizziness and insomnia. It's just not worth it. |
| Anonymous | posted 9-Nov-2008 12:09pm I've been taking the RFA-1 for 11 weeks today and lost 24.8 lbs so far. It hasn't made me jittery...but I eat along with it....I think thats the key. If i take it and dont eat, it gives me the jitters. |
| Anonymous | posted 10-Nov-2008 1:09pm I used the original Xenadrine and it was quite effective. It knocked out my hunger. I'm not overweight but (although I work out faithfully)I have no discipline when it comes to food. I love food...and snacking. I find myself working out to lose the potential inches gained from overeating. Anyway--RFX did nothing for me. I just ordered the 'new' Xenadrine from GNC. I thought I was ordering the old formula. I assume responsibility for what happens to me. But the truth of the matter is, I used it off/on for almost 2 yrs (1 pill per day, increased water intake, diet and proper exercise) with NO headache/vomiting/dizziness. I had no issues. ...and I saw that Xenadrine was taken off because some ppl were dying? Well, everyone isn't able to handle every pill out there. That goes for meds/ diet pills, etc... If your meds don't agree w/you then your doc will attempt to switch u to another brand/type. Anyway, how did these individuals use these pills? IMO, they took it off the market because it was TOO effective. BTW, has anyone looked at the medication that these seniors are taking...? My 71 aunt takes welfarin (a generic of the Coumadin/blood-thinner). According to the warnings taking this medication COULD produce yellow eyes/skin, coffee ground-like vomit, pain and swelling for no good reason and/or black stools (among other things)...before it POSSIBLY kills her. I swear, one of her meds even mentioned the word 'hemorrhaging'. Anyway I bought the Xenadrine. Hopefully, it performs as well as the old version. |
| Anonymous | posted 11-Nov-2008 4:26am hey Brad is that working for you? PLEASE let us know? |
| Anonymous | posted 11-Nov-2008 4:37am hey its me again i can not find the web site for the Ephedrine H.C.L. how do you gogle it? |
| Brad | posted 15-Nov-2008 10:05pm Sorry it's been so long since I've responded on here. I wish I could say that it has worked (in the sense of losing weight), but it hasn't produced a single lost pound in almost one month. Not one. But I do feel it giving me the same effects and RFA-1 used. Loss of appetite, loads of energy throughout the day. But to be fair and perfectly honest, I haven't done any exercising like I did when I used to take RFA-1. So it's not fair for me to say that it doesn't work. There's a lot of information out there proving that it works. This isn't a miracle pill/combo that will let you lose weight without trying. As far as the website, it's www.sndonline.net to buy Ephedrine HCL. I plan to get back into my running routine of doing 1-3 miles each night. I'll update again on here after I start doing that and post the results. If that doesn't work, then my last try will be to purchase those Yellow Bullets. To search for stuff on the web about the ECA stack, just go to Google and type "ECA Stack". You find all the info you need. |
| Ahmad | posted 16-Nov-2008 8:20pm Hey been taking the new xenadrine rfa-1 for 6 weeks have not had any side effects on me lost about 9 pounds was 165, now 156, its been great for me, i work out but not really tough drink shakes in the morning and salad with some grilled meats and ive seen great results |
| heather | posted 17-Nov-2008 4:19pm has anyone else out there had any results with taking their own ECA stack? i really wanted to try it but i always get bummed out when i hear that it didnt work for other people and it makes me not want to try it. so if you have let me know. ive came across some other pills similar to the yellow bullets that seem pretty legit but its hard to tell whats good and whats a scam so let me know guys. id appreciate it as well many other people on here. if you want to email me go head. xxheather0519xx@yahoo.com |
| Brad | posted 18-Nov-2008 12:06am NOTICE!!! For those looking at Yellow Bullets, STAY AWAY! If you read the fine print on the back of the bottle, it says at the very bottom "Does not contain ephedrine alkaloids". Ephedrine Alkaloids are what was in RFA-1 that allowed it to work the way it did. This isn't my update post, but I wanted to warn those of you on here that are thinking about buying those. I know I almost did until I looked a little deeper into the product. Would have been a complete waste of money. |
| heather | posted 18-Nov-2008 6:18pm thanks brad. i think i am just going to order the kaizen 8mg pills and try it out. ive been reading alot of forums and alot of people have said that kaizen are good pills and its a good company to order from. so hopefully that will work for me. im debating on if i want to make my own stack with the caffiene and aspirin or just take the ephedra with the new xenadrine pills like you said. |
| Savannah | posted 18-Nov-2008 9:03pm Okay, so maybe I am a little confused. So has ANYONE on here had any results with the NEW RFA-1?? I have recently noticed a weight gain, and even though I have been going to the gym every other day for the past 4 months and running anywhere from 3-6 miles, and eating right I can't seem to drop the weight. Everyone just tells me that I am genetically made to be bigger...and I don't want to accept that as an excuse!! I went to Wal-Mart and the new RFA-1 was SOLD OUT! but before I purchased it I wanted to make sure that someone out there was getting results! I have never used a diet supplement, but I had heard good things about RFA-1. Also, what about EFX? I just wanted to see if anyone had any advice on which one to try! Thanks!! |
| Savannah | posted 18-Nov-2008 10:43pm okay, so I have spent the last few hours researching the different formulas. I have heard great reviews about both, but I am still wanting to hear something from someone on here. I am so nervous to try this stuff, but I really need to get rid of this fat!! |
| Anonymous | posted 25-Nov-2008 10:06am They sell Xenadrine RFA-1 at Walmart. I know, i couldn't find it for the longest time, but they are selling it again. |
| walmartboy | posted 26-Nov-2008 9:07pm ok i've jsut purchased this stuff at walmart, and after reading the history from this thread, I thought it was banned already? The one i bought is the FA-1 type. I remember seeing ones of with out the ephedrine, does the one i bought have it? |
| Anonymous | posted 28-Nov-2008 11:47am Does anyone know if you can buy the original xenadrine in Canada? |
| Anonymous | posted 28-Nov-2008 11:47am Or maybe overseas? |
| Anonymous | posted 28-Nov-2008 1:46pm I read on a website that the FDA lifted the ban on ephedrine. Does anyone know if thats true? |
| Brad | posted 28-Nov-2008 2:45pm The ban on ephedrine was lifted a couple of years ago by a judge. But it was quickly banned again by another judge. So ephedrine alkaloids in diet pills are still banned in the U.S.. For those that are seeing and buying Xenadrine RFA-1 in stores again, it is NOT the same thing. It's not even made by the same company. The original company was Cytodyne. There are no ephedrine alkaloids in it. Without those, it's pretty useless. As far as if you can buy the old RFA-1 overseas, no. It's just not made anymore. |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 29-Nov-2008 10:38am Brad is correct about RFA-1. The new company is basically using the name "RFA-1" as a marketing gimmick for their latest formula. It's obviously been fooling a lot of people who loved the original RFA-1 into thinking it was back on the market. |
| Sheri | posted 30-Nov-2008 11:47am I really loved the original RFA too, it really worked for me. I have been hunting on the internet to find something comparable and came across a website that claims to have the original Xenadrine RFA-1 with the exact same ingredients, just under a different name. Superdrine RX10. The website offers tons of ephedra based products. I was wondering if anyone has bought anything from this website. the website is: thatswholesale.com Let me know what you find out. Thanks |
| Sheri | posted 30-Nov-2008 3:36pm I did a little more research and came across Zenalean Pro off of the website from my previous post. They list the ingredients as Vitamin B-5 22.5mg, Bitter Orange 42.5mg, Ephedra 10mg ephedrine alkaloids, Guarana 455mg, White Willow Bark/Tyrosine/Acetyl-L-carnitine/Green Tea blend 187.5mg. I no longer have the ingredients from the original Xenadrine RFA-1 but this sounds like the same ingredients to me. Does anyone know for sure? |
| Anonymous | posted 1-Dec-2008 5:27pm i too had great results from the original rfa-1 .. anyways got a new bottle from walmart -- thinking it was the same thing .. and from reading ads in magazines -- what a waste of money ... did nothing for me ... no energy boost or appetite loss... really wish they'd bring the original one back .... |
| hopeful | posted 1-Dec-2008 5:51pm Xenadrine RFA-1 is working for me i'm on my third week, lost my appetite and always on the go. Went to Big 5 and bought a jump rope and actually using it. my cloths fit a little better and I eat a whole lot lest on it, skip one day and i ate like a pig, you know how it is. I have hope with this one, but waiting to see the Big result. |
| Lynn | posted 2-Dec-2008 4:44pm I had great success with the original RFA-1, too, and had reached the point where I was taking maybe 1 pill per week and that was enough to maintain my weight. Since it was taken off the market I've had a number of things happen that helped put the weight back on, and now I'm battling to lose 10-15 pounds again. I've tried all sorts of things on the market, including the new RFA-1, and so far, nothing has done a thing for me. Brad, I'd love to hear if your regimen is successful. |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 2-Dec-2008 6:27pm Sheri, I'd be skeptical to any diet supplement being sold in the United States that states it has "ephedrine alkaloids." Anything marketed as a "diet supplement" with Ephedrine is against the Supreme Court ruling and the US Patriot Act of 2005. You are absolutely right in regards to the ingredients sounding like Xenadrine RFA-1's original formula. I have never ordered that particular brand since the banning of ephedrine in diet supplements. I recall ordering a few bottles of Zenalean back in 2004 before the ban and they were just as good as the original Xenadrin RFA-1. I don't know what to tell you about the current formula, but if they offer a money back guarantee or something, I would say go for it and see what happens. |
| Sheri | posted 2-Dec-2008 7:09pm Well I took a chance and ordered the Zelalean pro. I emailed the wholesale website and they told me they have had no problems shipping these products out. They also stated that there is a ban on manufacturing ephedra products but not selling them. The product was shipped to me yesterday. I live in Canada so I will see how long it takes. I am really optimistic :) I truly hope this product will be just as good as the original RFA but I guess only time will tell. I will keep you posted. |
| Anonymous | posted 3-Dec-2008 12:02am Like many of you, I lost about 20 pounds with the original RFA-1. So is the general consensus that the NEW formula does not work? I'm hearing a little bit on both sides. Is it worth going out and spending money? It's too bad they took the original off the market, it seems like a lot of people had great success. I was under the impression that the ban was lifted, so ephedra was being sold again... |
| Brad | posted 6-Dec-2008 2:27pm Sheri - Please update once you receive your order and let us know how it works. To the post above mine, I would stay away from the new RFA-1. Like I already mentioned, it is NOT the same thing as before. It has some of the same ingredients, but it's missing the main thing that worked: Epehdrine Alkaloids. I saw it in GNC recently for $54.99 and it was locked behind a case just like it used to be when I used to buy it. It's tempting I know, but don't fall for it. I've come to a couple of conclusions on why it was banned and I'm sure it's going to sound like a conspiracy theory but it makes sense. There are multiple diet pills that are available through prescription only that are made by large pharm companies. They potentially were going to lose millions and millions of dollars because people didn't need to go to a doctor anymore for them because they could simply go to a store and buy something that worked the same, if not better. There are HUNDREDS of medications that have side effects much, much worse than Ephedrine. Side effects such as death even. But these are still legal and not banned. The more I read about this stuff, the more I hate the FDA. It's all about money. I'm done venting. |
| Elle | posted 7-Dec-2008 12:25am Dude... the Original Xenadrine RFA-1 was awesome. I lost like 30lbs it seemed in weeks. But it was unfortunate that it was banned - was very disappointing (I'd say some folks abused the dosages). But, shoot it worked, well, too well. Anyway, I was intrigued to learn about the New Xenadrine RFA-1 (I'm putting myself on a little trial test - started today) ... I'll keep ya'll posted if it works out in the next few weeks. I found this out about the Ephedra Information: Ephedra Effects - About Ephedra Sinica ("Ma Huang") - Ephedra Reviews Ephedra is an alkaloid chemical compound traditionally obtained from the plant Ephedra Sinica, (otherwise known in the Chinese language as Ma Huang). It is a plant based substance used in traditional Chinese medicine for over 5,000 years, often used in the treatment of various respiratory, cold and hay fever related conditions. In more recent times, Ephedra has also been used extensively around the world as a performance-enhancing substance, which is now prohibited in most competitive sports events, as well as for a non-prescription weight loss supplement. Ephedra is known for its thermogenic (fat burning) properties and subsequent positive metabolic increase. In addition, various derivatives of Ephedra have since been synthesized to treat low blood pressure. The ephedra stacker, also known as the ECA Stack (ephedra, caffeine, aspirin), was the most popular ephedra supplement used within the sports and bodybuilding community. Ephedra Ban - Lifted and then Reinstated In response to reported side effects of Ephedra, the FDA commissioned the Rand Corporation to conduct an extensive meta-analysis of Ephedra's safety and efficacy. This study confirmed that Ephedra promoted weight loss, but also exposed users to potential side effects and health risks such as heart attack, stroke or death. The FDA later proposed a ruling that would limit the sale of Ephedra products containing 8 mg or more of ephedrine alkaloids, as well as require stricter labeling that warns of potential side effects and health risks. In 2004, the FDA sought to ban the sale of Ephedra based supplements. However a lawsuit brought by an Ephedra manufacturer to mitigate this ban was upheld by a Federal District Court judge in 2005, thereby temporarily lifting the ban on ephedra. In August 2006, the FDA appealed the ruling and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit overturned the lower court ruling and upheld the FDA's ban of ephedra. In May 2007, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the final appeal, thereby leaving the FDA ban in effect. Note: See the section Is Ephedra Legal below for a full discussion of the current legality of various types of ephedra. Ephedra Outlet fully supports the FDA's ban on ephedrine alkaloids, as well as advancing the requirement for all manufacturers to provide full disclosure of potential side effects and health risks. In keeping with the foregoing, Ephedra Outlet is taking the formative step of adding appropriate disclosures for consumers to limit daily consumption of products containing Ephedra Viridis, Mormon Tea, and/or Ephedra Extract, and further, only offering such products to qualified adult purchasers who strictly adhere to the terms, conditions, warranties and representations required for use of this Site. Is Ephedra Legal? As you may have already guessed, the short answer is Yes (ephedra viridis) and No (ephedra sinica). Note: ephedra sinica is also known as Ma Huang and ephedra viridis is also known as Mormon Tea. The quick answer: When looking to buy ephedra, search for products advertising either: (1) Ephedra Viridis, (2) Mormon Tea, or (3) Ephedra Extract. All three of these options refer to ephedra that is not subject to the FDA ban. The full story: There are many different species of ephedra around the world and it is important to note that the FDA did not ban them all. They actually did not ban the ephedra plant at all. The ephedra ban specifically targeted the active ingredient, ephedrine alkaloids, usually found in ephedra sinica. If you find ephedrine alkaloids or active ephedrine alkaloids on a product label, the product is probably included in the FDA ban. In order to comply with the FDA ban, avoid products advertising either: (1) ephedra sinica, (2) ephedrine alkaloids, or (3) active ephedrine alkaloids. Special Note: The ephedra ban does not apply to the pharmaceutical industry. They continue to use ephedrine and pseudoephedrine in products like Claritin D TM and Pseudofed TM (both behind the pharmacy counter). History of Ephedra Weight Loss Products and Ephedra Stacker Supplements Ephedra species are tall shrubs with many branches. Ephedra plants mostly grow in the desert. There are many different species of ephedra found around the world. The most popular is ephedra sinica or ma huang, found in Asia. The remaining species of ephedra have become extremely popular since the FDA ban on ephedrine alkaloids took effect: ephedra viridis, ephedra nevadensis, ephedra gerardiana, ephedra distacha (European ephedra), and ephedra americana. Over 5000 years ago ephedra (under the name Ma huang) was used in Chinese medicine to treat several disorders. Amongst others, asthma and bronchitis were treated with ephedra. Ephedra comes from a plant that has a few powerful active compounds, of which ephedrine is the most useful. More information on the chemical connections in the extraction of the active substances follows. Over the last few years ephedra has gained much more attention for its side-effects: an increased metabolism, plus the thermeogenic and fat burning qualities that come along with that. This gives the body stimulation and provides energy. These qualities made ephedra a popular weight-loss supplement and sports supplement. China has used ephedra sinica for medicinal purposes since approximately 2800 B.C. Ma Huang, the stem and branch, and Ma Huanggen, the root and rhizome were used to treat different ailments. Ma Huang was often used in the treatment of various respiratory, cold and hay fever related conditions, as well as arthritis. Ma Huanggen was primarily only prescribed to alleviate night sweats. In 1923, the western world took interest in ephedra once the ephedrine alkaloids were able to be isolated. Since 1927, both ephedrine and pseudoephedrine have been in continual use as OTC decongestants and allergy treatments. *Information presented is for educational purposes only; statements about products and health conditions have not been evaluated by the U.S. Food & Drug Administration. |
| Sheri | posted 8-Dec-2008 5:40pm Brad, I just received my Zelalean today in the mail. It only took a week to get to Canada, not bad. I'm going to start taking it tomorrow and I'll update you as the week goes on. |
| Amber | posted 9-Dec-2008 5:56pm I am Taking Xenadrine Rfa-1 and it is doing well with me..It is making me feel smaller alreay..Has anyone lost 20 pounds in a month on this |
| heather | posted 10-Dec-2008 2:01am amber- is that the new formula that does not contain ephedra? |
| hopeful | posted 10-Dec-2008 2:18pm The new Clinical Strength Xenadrine Rfa-1 works...ENUF SAID. |
| heather | posted 10-Dec-2008 5:48pm hey guys. im starting my diet today. i have ephedrine hcl and the new rfa-1. im combining the rfa-1 with 25mg of ephedra 3 times a day. ill let u know how it works. ill tell u what it gives you a rush and makes you sweat. lol. good luck guys and wish me luck!! |
| Amber | posted 11-Dec-2008 12:32pm I have been only taking this rfa-1 for6 days and I have lost 5 pounds... I don't know if this is healthy or not but this * I wake up take 2 capsules and then wait 30 to 60 minutes before i eat ( like the bottle says) they I drink my Shake..But I want eat again until 5:00 in the evening because im not hungry.. I dont have any bad side effects i just stay busy and on the other hand i do have a 17 month old dayghter and a 3month old son. so they keep me on my toesis 5 pounds to much to lose this fast! not for me lol |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 11-Dec-2008 3:31pm Heather that sounds like a lot of ephedra if you're stacking. I would recommend no more than 25mg. |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 11-Dec-2008 3:31pm Sorry 25mg twice a day. |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 11-Dec-2008 3:33pm Amber that sounds quick but it depends on how overweight you are. I can understand that pace being okay if you are very overweight. |
| heather | posted 12-Dec-2008 12:00am ephedrine supporter. all the things ive looked at everyone says to take 25 mgs 3 times a day. what is your expierence with the drug and what do you think i should do that would help me get good results? also..i dont know if you would know but do you know if kaizen ephedrine hcl is a good brand. all the forums and things ive looked at said that it is a very reputable company and has a good quality product. i just want to make sure im not wasting my time taking something that wont work when theres something out there that could do you know what im saying? do me a favor and email me xxheather0519xx@yahoo.com! id appreciate it.! |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 12-Dec-2008 8:34pm If you feel fine, then take what you're going to take. On top of that, if you can get the same effect from 50mg and 75mg, why not take less and stretch out the bottle? |
| heather | posted 13-Dec-2008 12:20am i did try that. i took 50 one day and 75 the next to see the difference, the only thing about the 50 is obviously it doesnt last as long as the 75mg because its one less dose so i get really tired and also really cold, as a result of being warmed up all day from the ephedrine. i havent decided what i want to do yet. I feel fine though, obviously i get a little jittery and i can feel my heart beating fast but im used to that on account of taking caffiene pills on occasion. if i start feeling different i will lower it to 50mg or maybe even 25. thanks for your input though i appreciate it. did you happen to find out if the kaizen ephedrine hcl was a good brand to take? what are you expierences with it? |
| Amber | posted 13-Dec-2008 1:09pm I am 5'7 I weighed 197 and I weight 188 now..I want to weigh 160 and I would be great..I am just tall i dont want to look so skinny and not have no meat on me..I am not eating that much but I am eating. Just dont get that hungry.. |
| Sheri | posted 14-Dec-2008 1:29pm Zenalean update. I started taking it on Tuesday..1 pill in the morning and 1 pill early afternoon. I lost 2.5 lbs from Tuesday to Friday. I am taking half of the recommended dosage and I have not exercised or changed my eating habits. I do find that I am not very hungry and I feel I have more energy. It's hard to tell how good these pill are or are not yet as it's only been a few days. I'll keep you posted. |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 14-Dec-2008 8:28pm Sheri, I would like to know your starting weight, if you don't mind me asking. Its good for comparisons. |
| RG | posted 14-Dec-2008 8:31pm Brad, That SNDonline website seems to sell doses above that 8mg recommended legality. Is it legit to order the 10mg, or 30's of there? Does anyone else recommend a better place? |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 14-Dec-2008 8:32pm Heather, Kaizen is a very respected brand of Ephedrine and is good to take based on what I hear and read. I don't have personal experience with this brand, however. I have taken another brand of Ephedrine from Perfect Nutrition (Canadian Brand) that has given me good results in an ECA stack. |
| Nikki | posted 14-Dec-2008 11:25pm First I would like to say that I have enjoyed reading all your comments as I fined them very helpful....Although I am a little confused. I live in Canada, and I have found the Xenadrine™ RFA-1 made by Cytodyne Technologies It states this right on the box, It is not Xenadrine EFX, also I had read that Muscle Tech the same manufactures who make Hydroxycut have now bought out the name Xenadrine but again Xenadrine™ RFA-1) clearly reads Cytodyne Technologies it also does not say Ephedrine free or that it is a new Xenadrine™ RFA-1. So maybe you can see how I am confused about all this. I can tell you that I have started the pills today only taking 2 rather then the recommened dose and it killed my appetite. I have 20 pounds to lose and will keep you updated. I bought Xenadrine™ RFA-1 at Walmart in Ontario, Canada for 25 bucks. If anyone as any more knowledge on this product or can shed some light that would great! Will be back soon. |
| Nikki | posted 14-Dec-2008 11:34pm SORRY made a mistake on the package it does read new formula and is made by Cytogenix Lab. |
| victoria | posted 15-Dec-2008 6:42am well I've been on the new xenadrine for about 2 weeks now and how already lost 10 LBS....I love it to be honest....I dont feel sick when taking them and i dont get dizzy or anything like that....it curves your appetite like crazy which is awesome lol....i dont have any complaints |
| Amber | posted 15-Dec-2008 5:50pm I Love this Pill..Its great!!! I am losing my weight very good..Faster than I thought..I dont find myself beig hungry like i was beofre taking this pill..I have lots more energy and find more time to doother things besides eating. I was 198 before i started taking this pill and now I am 189.4 in a week and a half!! Its amazing ! |
| victoria | posted 16-Dec-2008 12:28pm wow that is awesome....I was 198 as well and now I'm 184.5 2 weeks later....KEEP IT UP!!! |
| Amber | posted 17-Dec-2008 2:41pm can anyone tell me the diet plan they are taking with this pill..I am doing a great diet but looking for some foods to eat to go along with it..Something Different |
| heather | posted 19-Dec-2008 12:47am Amber and Victoria, I was curious to what your diet consists of and what exercise you do with the RFA-1? I am going to start taking it and was just curious to try what you tried because evidently you both have had good results so far :D please share |
| victoria | posted 20-Dec-2008 3:16pm no problem.....basically starting with the pill make sure you take it around the same time everyday this way your body adjusts to it faster. My diet consists of no carbs and if i do have carbs they are very low, next drink water constantly if you get sodas make sure they are diet. Now everybody is different but I dont eat breakfast I've never really been the one to eat in the morning.....oh and the biggest one is do not eat after 6 or 7 pm just with that alone you will see a difference if you stick with it. Now i personally dont do hardcore workouts...I just walk and run for about 45 minutes, but don't do that everytime because you will get burned out on it...so mix it up and turn on some music and dance for about 30 minutes I really hope I helped you a lil bit and best of luck...now I'm not going to lie the first 3 days are the hardest but just stay strong and you can do it.... check out my myspace page and see the pics so you know i'm not lieing lol www.myspace.com/victoriacerami |
| heather | posted 20-Dec-2008 4:28pm thankss that really did help a ton. im the same way as you..i dont eat in the morning and i never have its just not me..i guess in general i just dont eat that much i never realy have an appetite. I dont drink soda so that wont be hard for me, and i never eat after 7 so all in all were about the same lol. I usually do walk but i will start changing it cause i am getting bored with it. Thanks for everything and definetly keep in touch. Its easier when you have support from other people doing the same thing :D my email is xxheather0519xx@yahoo.com email me whenever you want. thanks again!! |
| Hiba | posted 21-Dec-2008 4:40pm I have read everyone's post on this page. I bought three bottles of the new RFA-1 over a month ago, but have not had the courage to use them. Now, I feel more comfortable after having read Victoria's and Amber's posts ( thank you guys for sharing your experiences). I will start taking the pill tomorrow. I have a gym membership, so I am committed to follow a good diet and exercise plan, and use the new RFA-1 to curb my appetite. My weight today is 151 lbs, and my goal is to weigh 123 lbs. I am 5'3. I will post again a week from tomorrow to let you know how I am doing. |
| Aleisha | posted 22-Dec-2008 8:17pm Thanks, Brad for the info on the ECA stack. I used to take the original formula and pretty much lost weight eating cookies all day-that's how good it worked. I am going to order this stuff and hope it works. |
| Kelley | posted 23-Dec-2008 9:17am Brad, I like most people on here lost a good bit of weight taking RFA-1. Here is my question to you: I purchased the Kaizen ephedrine 8mg & am going to try the stack you talked about. Not sure what the difference is between the RFA-X and RFA-1 that is on the market now. I purchased the RFA-X & want to take that with the ephedrine, what do you think of this? |
| Aleisha | posted 23-Dec-2008 10:06am Has anyone ever used white willow bark instead of asprin in the ECA stack? Its supposed to be less irritating on the stomach and it was in the original Xenadrine. |
| DeeDee | posted 28-Dec-2008 12:02pm Hello I ordered my Ephedrine HCL 8mg today. I hope to get it within a week. I currently use the new RFA-1 and have not seen any results. I'm currently 179lb and wish to lose 25, I haven't exercised as much over the holidays, but will start back running in the morning, since I have to get up for work anyway. I've been off for the past week. Victoria, my 3 day detox starts today, I'm cutting down my carbs and don't plan to eat after 7pm...wish me luck. |
| Hiba | posted 29-Dec-2008 9:21am It has been a week since I started using the new RFA-1. My total weight loss as of this morning is 1.5 lbs. I take the recommended dosage three times a day. I missed a dose a couple of days. I did not work out as I planned because las week was Christmas week... I don't eat as much as I used to, but I have my breakfast, lunch, and dinner. No junk food or fast food. I do feel that the weight loss is mainly water loss. Victoria, You mentioned having lost 10 lbs in 2 wks. Are you using the pill alone or combining it with ephedra? Amber, how is you weight loss going? Do you recommend I combine xenadrine with ephedra? And Finally Sheri, can you please share your results so far from using Zenalean? As I mentioned in an earlier post I have 25 to 30 lbs to loose. Thank you guys and happy new year!!! |
| staci | posted 29-Dec-2008 3:38pm I just went out today and bought the new Xenadrine RFA-1. Now that I have read everyones posts, I am a little more confident in starting the product. I am wanting to loose 30-35 pounds. Hopefully I will see sucess. I will keep everyone updated! |
| Anonymous | posted 29-Dec-2008 6:41pm I don't consume ephedra reason being it isn't good for you and if anyone is using it I recommend they stop because in the long run your heart could give out or you could develop health issues just like a family member of mine...why do you think they stopped putting it in pills, sure it works but trust me it is not worth it. I only take the pill and so far i'm down 15 lbs now....20 more to go, and please whatever y'all do don't skip meals because that actually slows down the metabolism. I know I'm not an expert but I know enough to make it work. Y'all keep me updated on the progress and feel free to write me if you have a question! victoria_cerami_1986@yahoo.com |
| Anonymous | posted 29-Dec-2008 6:42pm Great job DeeDee! just remember don't go without eating even if you don't feel hungry try to eat a little something because it helps burn the fat! Good Luck |
| Anonymous | posted 30-Dec-2008 2:08pm CVS around by my house still has this on the shelf i bought it yesterday not realizing it was no longer being sold. i think they were selling old inventory not realizing it was pulled from shelves. |
| Amber | posted 30-Dec-2008 2:36pm sorry guys I haven't been on here over the holidays..benn so busy..BUT an update for you all..THIS PILL WORKS..I went home and everyone knew i had lost weight. im in texas my husband is working here from the storm but live in ga so we went back to GA and everyone knew i had lost weight..I didnt take my pill christmas eve or day because i ate everything lol..BUT DID NOT GAIN NOTYHING..so thats a plus with me. actually i got a detox. and lost a pound so everything is great! |
| Aleisha | posted 5-Jan-2009 5:50pm Ok just started the ECA stack! |
| vicki | posted 5-Jan-2009 9:37pm Well I'm new to this diet and I wanna lose 30 to 40lbs. I'm a thick 214 right now and I jsut purchase my 1st bottle of xenadrine rfa1 I did have doubts at first intil I came across amber and victoria blog.so I don't wanna do this alone so I'll keep ya'l posted good luck everyone |
| Amber | posted 7-Jan-2009 12:26am keep your eyes open and focus..TRUST me you can do it..This diet is amazing..I ran out of pills and could tell the differnce without them I just ran out today and Im gonna g purchase my next bottle 2morrow..I felt more hungry today and wanted to eat. But when i take the pill it made my cravings go away and I ate less food when i ate because i was so full..But the diet really works and I know you can do..I'm here for you all! Glad we all can talk about this |
| Melody | posted 7-Jan-2009 6:43pm Sheri, how is it going with "Zelalean". I would really like to know if it works as well as the original "Xenadrine RFA-1" Thanks and good luck to all :) |
| Anonymous | posted 8-Jan-2009 8:36pm does anybody know if the new RFA-1 interferes or could be dangerous with prescriptions?? |
| Anonymous | posted 8-Jan-2009 10:36pm so brad is it working??????? |
| Ashleigh | posted 10-Jan-2009 2:09pm Okay, I am getting confused. Is the new RFA-1 working for people or not? |
| Dianne | posted 10-Jan-2009 10:54pm Hi Ok I wish I could get the original Xenidrine ! I loved it worked for me like a dream ! I want to try to the new rfa-1 like others on here but i dont have money to spend if it is not going to help me ...I know with the old rfa-1 u didnt have to watch what u ate and the weight still came off for me. It did make me not eat as much and not be hungry but when i did eat it was whatever i wanted ..Normally Mcdonalds ..lol I am sure the new one is not quite that good but if it is near it im in !! So anyone have any new results with taking the new xenidrine rfa-1 ?? I want to get this weight off so bad !! My breast are so large after my son that my back hurts constantly Please any help ?!! Dianne |
| Fiore | posted 11-Jan-2009 9:35pm I just started on this pill. I had taking the old formula and it was awesome. This one seems to be working so far as I am not hungry at all. That's big for me. I will be posting my progress. Good luck everyone. |
| Anonymous | posted 12-Jan-2009 5:30pm This pill does not work at all like the old formula. |
| One with some answers | posted 13-Jan-2009 2:10pm Ok so i have tried hydroxucut hardcore, and that worked like a charm, no matter how many people tell you that you will only lose water weight and gain it back when stoped taking the pills, they are only lieing. I went to gnc the other day to get another month on the hydroxy and he recomended the new xenedrine rfa. so i went with that instead of the hydroxy. Upon first taking the pills i felt a sudden rush of energy (within like an hour) it does crave the appitight as well. And i felt them alot harder then they hydroxy. But unlike the hydroxy the xenedrine gave me cramps, nausia (i threw up like the first 3 days of taking them, even if there wasnt anything in my stomache). So next time forget the xenedrine in my oppinion and go for hydroxy, sure it does cost twice as much but in my opinion work twice as better! ive been wanting to try ephidrine for the longest time and been having a bitch fit trying to find it ha. Thanks for providing a link! you guys are awsome! |
| ME | posted 13-Jan-2009 9:03pm Sheri, Do you have a Zenalean update? I'm interested to know if it's working for you. Thanks! |
| Sheri | posted 13-Jan-2009 11:13pm Sorry I haven't been on here in quite some time. Computer crashed and then I got sick. Anyways due to the fact that I have been ill for a while I was not taking the Zenalean. I just recently got back on it. From what I can tell so far Zenalean does provide you with energy and I do not feel very hungry when I take it. I do not think it works as well as the original Xenedrine. I don't find the weight coming off near as fast as I did when I took the original Xenedrine. I have only been losing an average of a pound to a pound and a half a week. I have not been exercises though. I hope to add some walking in and maybe that will speed things up a bit. I'll let you know how that goes. |
| ME | posted 14-Jan-2009 4:25pm Sheri, Thanks for your response! |
| Ash | posted 14-Jan-2009 7:37pm So I just bought the "new" xenedrine from wal-mart.. I started off here looking for side effects, as the damn box has NOTHING. I've previously taken Hydroxycut and Lipozene, increased water intake, and worked out regularly..and haven NOTHING to show for either. I was intreagued at the commercials for this product, and at only 20 years old I figured this would do me the best. I'm a little discouraged that I just found out this product is "new" and not working like it used to? If anyone close to my age has used this product, or had any horrible side effects, please e-mail me! I probably won't remember this website, and as a nanny and full-time student don't get too much time on the computer. |
| Ash | posted 14-Jan-2009 7:38pm My e-mail is amichelle00@ yahoo.com Any e-mails are appriciated!!!! Thanks!!! |
| Ma' | posted 15-Jan-2009 11:27pm Well...I used to use the original Metabolife 356, dropped 70 pounds, the original xenadrine sounds just as good or better. I purchased the "new" rfa-1, today at walmart, I HOPE HOPE HOPE it works, some people have been saying positive things, others not so much.... I'm starting in the morning, I'll keep you posted! |
| Lesa | posted 16-Jan-2009 5:03pm Hi I just ordered the 8 mg of kizen today I will let you know when I get it? I plan to take it with the Xenadrine RFA-1. |
| ray | posted 17-Jan-2009 6:16pm just did the same as lesa...i guess we will see what happends |
| anonymous | posted 18-Jan-2009 2:22am Where can I order the kiazen(?) ephedrine? Thanks |
| heather | posted 18-Jan-2009 3:44am hey everyone. just wanted to update a little. i have been taking the new rfa-1 for about a week now. 2 pills 3 times a day like it says to do and drinking lots of water. i am using the pills with a low carb diet and 30 minutes to an hours worth of exercise (exercise ball, tredmill, bike) i have lost 10 lbs so far. Im not sure if this is because the pills or the low carb diet or a mix of both but as time goes on i will try to determine what is making me lose weight. the most important thing is to stay focused, believe me it helps. good luck to everyone! |
| cece | posted 18-Jan-2009 3:18pm hey i wanted to know if people with thyroids can use xenadrine rfa-1 |
| bluezebrasa | posted 19-Jan-2009 2:20pm Heather are you taking both the ephedra pills and the xenadrine rfa-1 together or just the new rfa-1 by itself. How are you doing with your weight and energy? |
| Anonymous | posted 19-Jan-2009 6:24pm cece, everyone has a thyroid |
| heather | posted 19-Jan-2009 7:09pm blue, i am just taking the new rfa-1 by itself with a low card diet and 30 minutes to an hours worth of exercise a day. ive lost 10 lbs so far which is good...and the first couple days of the low card diet my energy was way low i was really tired and just blah feeling and basically had to force myself to workout but now past the 5th day im normal. it depends on the person i think, my sister did the low carb diet for awhile and she couldnt sleep at all so she was completely opposite of me so i guess it depends on the persons body. hope this helps. |
| Lesa | posted 20-Jan-2009 6:17pm just got my pills in the mail today so i am going to GNC today to buy the xenadrine rfa-1 i will keep you all up to date.... |
| Lisa | posted 21-Jan-2009 12:08pm good morning everyone i'm glad i stumbled across this site..it is a nice to read about others and their experiences with the original xenadrine formula... i too took it years ago with great results it's been interesting to research all the various diet supplements out there... it amazed me to find one that cause a ' happy state'... it was called Fenphedra... and sounds like it alters the mind also... i'm actually nervous about while avenue to try... I saw that Xenadrine RFA was back...and for a moment i did get excited i'd love to hear current feedback from those that are taking it to judge if i should try it once again or try a JenFe patch thanks everyone! |
| bluezebrasa | posted 22-Jan-2009 11:28pm Thanks for your answerr Heather. Ilike almost everyone else on this site did take the old Xenadrine with excellent results. Since then Ihave tried probably 15-20 different diet pills and teas. The only one close to the same feeling was Xenadrine but a did not shed the pounds. anyway I just bought a pill called Thermodrine, I will start tomorrow. I am excited it claims to have the same ingredients as the old Xenadrine. We will see I will keep everyone posted. Wish me luck I sure need it. Although I do have a membership at a gym I get most of my exercise by umpiring girls fastpitch softball and refereeing both girls and boys basketball. |
| heather | posted 23-Jan-2009 5:01pm blue....definetly let me know how the Thermodrine goes..if you have good results maybe ill give it a go. I am making progress with the Xenadrine I just feel like i should be gettin better results with all the work im doing so it gets discouraging. know what i mean?! well if you want to email me on my personal email go head..id love to know your progress. xxheather0519xx@yahoo.com good luckkk! |
| Brad | posted 24-Jan-2009 2:23am Sorry it's been so long since I've updated on here, everyone. Like most of you, I've just been very busy lately. I still have not tried my ECA stack with exercise. I still have the 5 bottles of 8mg ephedrine in my dresser so there isn't much to report as far as my results are concerned. Sorry :( To answer some questions I noticed on here, though, regarding if you should buy the higer doses...the answer (in my opinion) is NO. Ephedrine HCL is legal in Canada, but only in pills not containing more than 8mg. I'm no saint and it's not about the legality issue, but it's about the quality. If a company is manufacturing doses higher than 8mg, they are doing it illegally which translates to not caring or following guidelines. If they aren't concerned with the law then who knows if they are pure or even real. With that kind of risk I just can't justify puting something like that into my body. Even if it's not a harmful chemical, it could just be a sugar pill for all I know. Stick to Kaizen. I've still continued to research as much as possible and unfortunately I have come to the conclusion that there is NOTHING on the market (legally) that can compare to the original RFA-1. There are A LOT of products claiming to be the same formula but when you read the fine print you'll see that it's not the same type of ephedrine. There are prescription drugs that are stronger than the original RFA-1 that you can get (I'm not talking about Phen-Fen), but that requires a doctor visit and even then you're not guaranteed to get the prescription. |
| Anonymous | posted 26-Jan-2009 2:25am Has anyone tried Maximum Strength Megadrine RFA? These ingredients look exactly like Xenadrine rfa. Also had the alkaloids, not extract. |
| Melyssa | posted 29-Jan-2009 9:35am I just bought Xenadrine RFA-1 at rite aid. I always see the commercials but wasn't aware there were different varieties of Xenadrine ('till now). I was just taking a gander at all your reviews and I'm pretty excited. Hoping it wasn't a fluke that I got this one and that I'll be able to find it again! Wish me luck!! |
| Anonymous | posted 29-Jan-2009 2:15pm Like everyone else, I missed the old Xenadrine and thought I was the only one looking for a clone of it. I feel like I'm talking to old friends when I read everyone's post. Do anyone if people with thyroid problems can use this product??? I am doing weight watchers now and just started walking and so far has lost 14lbs. in two weeks, but want to try RFA-1 for a little more support. Does anyone have any opinion?? |
| Anonymous | posted 30-Jan-2009 1:50am Melyssa, the rfa-1 you bought at rite aid isn't the original rfa-1 that the rest of us are talking about. |
| Anonymous | posted 30-Jan-2009 8:14pm The NEW rfa 1 does not have ephedrine in it. It does have guarana along with caffiene anhydrous. I just started taking and noticed my appetite drop alot. Also it gave me alot more energy. |
| Anonymous | posted 3-Feb-2009 2:13pm can someone with thyroids disease take xenadrine rfa 1 |
| Anonymous | posted 9-Feb-2009 9:43am i have just started taking the new RFA 1. its just my 4th day. i just had a baby 4 months ago and im dying to lose 20 lbs at least. ive noticed that since ive been taking the pills, ive been getting headaches. some worse than others. now because this is my 4th day i have started takng 2 pills at a time(like the bottle says) if my headaches get worse with 2 pills then i might stop taking them. m hoping my body gets used to them by now and it wont affect me anymore. ive always been 120 lbs and now im about 145 lbs. the problem it that i want to eat even if i dont feel hungry. even if RFA 1 curves my hunger.....i wil still eat. and im italian, i love carbs! |
| lmb | posted 16-Feb-2009 10:49pm i just ordered the epehdrine HCL 8 mg tabs from sndonline. I did this because i just bought the new brand of xenadrine rfa-1 at walmart last night. and from what i read on here its really useless with out the epehdrine. I have severe allergys and maybe this will help me along with the chance to really loose some weight.has anyone had any luck with the epehdrine as a nasal decongestant? I pop three benadryl daily just to keep my runny nose in check. i was on prescription allergy pills but got tired of paying for them and running back and forth the dr. and the pharmacy when ever i had to refill them. one note...i have mytro-valve prolapse ....does any one know if its still safe for me to take the epehdrine? |
| Rach9999 | posted 18-Feb-2009 4:49pm Hi all, I just bought the new xenadrine rfa-1. I was doing research about its effectiveness and was disappointed to read the reviews. However, I loved Brad's idea about ordering from Canada and making my own ECA stack. I was wondering, has anyone else done that and with what kind of results? Thanks! |
| bride-to-be | posted 18-Feb-2009 9:46pm Hi everyone, Well I to have to lose at least 25lbs to lose in 65 days when I am suppose to walk to the altar. I weighed 195, hitting the gym five days a week at 5am for an hour with a personal trainer. One month before my wedding i tore my meniscus, so I ended up having a KNEE ARTHROSCOPY the week of the big day. They repaired what they could and removed what couldn't. So am now in recovery can not workout and walk with a limp. I have a new date set I have 65 days to lose what I have gained from not being active. So I have purchased a bottle of revised Xenadrine RFA-1, I can do light walking on tread mill. I will do the low or no carbs, water, no meals or snacks after 7pm. I have to fit back into my dress that was cut down for me, so if I lose more that would be great too. So please Victoria & Amber as well as anyone else please keep me posted on your progress. As of yesterday they have released me to walk and I got my first shot of cortizone into the knee to help with swelling & pain. Wish me LUCK or I will have to find a new dress and that won't happen in 65 days. |
| Chant | posted 22-Feb-2009 4:15pm bride-to-be: Try the biggest loser original workout DVD, you can choose what options you want to do. I had foot surgery less than a year ago and it still swells and gets sore, so I just do the warm up, the body sculpt - which you can do to suit you (I can't bend my foot so I do what is comfortable for me in some of the activities) and I do the cool down. There is no jumping around or crazy dance moves. It was worht the $10, my hubby even said he noticed the back of my arms tightened up. Anyways I too have started the RFA-1, now I just got to go back and read everyones posts! |
| Anonymous | posted 24-Feb-2009 4:37am I started to take Xenadrine RFA-X 2-19- 09 until now no result |
| mandi | posted 24-Feb-2009 5:19pm I've been on the nes xenadrince rfa-1 for 3 days now and I've lost 5 pounds. I am eating almost nothing; toast for breakfast, an apple for lunch, and maybe like half a sandwich for dinner. I am forcing myslelf to eat this because I know I'll pass out if I have nothing. I've gone to the gym once since I started taking these pills and that was only for 30 minutes. However, I feel soooooo sick all the time. Maybe I am actually getting sick, or maybe its the drug. I am constantly nauseous but haven't actually thrown up. My head is spinning, I am so dizzy I can barely walk straight. I couldn't even drive myself to school this morning. I had diharrea a few times. I've slept maybe an average of 4.5 hours a night since I started this. I just can't fall/stay asleep. My heart is simply hammering, I can feel it about to beat out of my chest. I'm always lightheadded. I'm going to the doctor in a few days if I keep this up to make sure I'm not going to die or anything. The product is definitely showing results, but I'm not sure if its worth it. |
| Ginger | posted 27-Feb-2009 3:18am I got this in GNC, and it's done nothing for me. The first week I had tons of stomach cramps and diarrhea, and now in the second week I don't have the pains, but still have intermittent diarrhea. It's done nothing to curb my hunger at all. I'm still ravenous by noon, even after a decent breakfast of oatmeal. I haven't noticed any jitters at all...a strong cup of coffee would have more of an effect on my heart rate than this does! |
| KittKat | posted 4-Mar-2009 12:05pm I've been taking this product for a few days now. Has anyone noticed any side effects as far as like dilated pupils. I was doing my make-up this morning and I've either never noticed this before but it was as if my eyes are constantly dilating small then big. Is anyone having this problem. I'm currently taking it 3 times a day only. |
| Monica | posted 4-Mar-2009 12:30pm Well I'm new to this blog however I just went to the drug store and bought the new Xenadrine RFA-1 and started taking it today and I am at 180lbs and want to lose about 30lbs by Summertime. Wish me luck and I will keep you posted on my results! |
| Ryan | posted 6-Mar-2009 11:04am Got the new Xenadrine at gnc and P90X workout in the mail. I'm 6' 230 lbs, big frame. I'll update next Friday after a week on pills and home workout video |
| TrannyFace | posted 7-Mar-2009 4:27am I bought the new RFA-1, thinking that it was the same forumula as the original that I had taken years ago. Even since reading this (hence, eliminating the possibility of a placeabo effect), I can positively report that it KILLS my apetite...without the nausea that I experienced with the original forumla. It gets me through my third shift, and my afternoon trail runs last much longer than they used to (without it). I'm not sure what they've changed, but I really dig the stuff. As for weight loss.....it's working  |
| TIff | posted 9-Mar-2009 12:38pm Hey all Thanks for all the info.. I'm new to the pill the RFA-1 I am a little nervious about taking it I have never takin a diet pill before but Dang I am desperate to loose 40 lbs and all those other programs failed me .. I can't help it I'm a snacker & a late night snacker at that. ... What i have noticed is that I don't feel wierd or anything I just take it before I eat my Breakfast , Lunch, & dinner and I noticed I am so full that i can't even snack. Even if I wanted to. Im TOOOOO FULL>> I tried last night and I got one sweet maui onion hawaiian chip to my lips and i couldn't even swallow it.. I was Full.. I HOPE I HOPE I HOPE This is my helper.... |
| Crissie | posted 13-Mar-2009 8:59am I also lost lots of weight easily with the original Xenadrine. When we could still get the original formula I found that it worked for my cousin (Meg) and me, but another cousin (Jess) it did not work for she had to use stuff without the ephedra in it. Anyways, I need to loose some weight again and am having a hard time doing so. I was wonder (Brad & others) if you are having any luck with the ECA stack? Also wondering if anyone has tried the Megadrine RFA-1, and if it worked? |
| Aaron, RD | posted 15-Mar-2009 3:03am I used to take the original Xenadrine. I went from 280 to 220 in 3 months over the summer of my Junior year in high school, with appropriate carbohydrate cutting, protein boosting, massive intake in water and I worked out 6 days a week, for about two hours using plyometrics. I used to work at GNC and went through over 400 hours of training on various herbs and conditions and am two months away from becoming a dietician registered, so I'm somewhat knowledgeable both personally and professionally. When Xenadrine went off the market I wasn't that devastated because by that time I had went off of the pills and was strictly dieting and exercise. After that I tried, Leptopril, Hydroxycut (and the new hardcore version). These simply don't work for everyone like Xenadrine did. After the new bans on Ephedra Sinica of Ma Huang I tried to find the milligrams of Ephedra and the active components of the RFA-1 stack of course Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, bitter orange, guarana, white willow bark and aspirin. I researched them and found a wholesaler on the internet that sells all of these ingredients mountainroseherbs.com. I ordered them in bulk 1lb-5lb packages and made my own tea using the milligram amounts on the original bottle. This seems like a lot of work but it has exactly the same effects. This is not a diagnosis for everyone to try but simply a possible way to get low cost ephedra. |
| Anonymous | posted 15-Mar-2009 4:28am Believe it or not...I have found it in a couple of different places online, but I called the distributors prior to putting in credit card info with a few questions...basically...It`s old! Its not made anymore, not since 2003. They are using the mix and switch method or sending out old damaged bottles. The knockoffs aren`t the same! Time for the good old fashioned diet and excersize. |
| Elle | posted 16-Mar-2009 6:20am @Aaron, RD... hey...I hope you get this, could you please list the herbs you purchased from them to make the tea? (and directions/recipe) thanks! |
| Miss | posted 16-Mar-2009 7:56pm My co worker started taking the new RFA two weeks ago, has not gone to the gym at all. It took her apetite away. She came in today and has lost 10 pounds. I think I will try it now too. |
| Aaron, RD | posted 20-Mar-2009 2:16am Elle, I found the guarana seed that I had to grind myself and the ephedra sinica powder at mountainroaseherbs.com, each in 1 lb. increments. The recipe really depends on how much your tolerance is. If you have a low tolerance or are juts beginning I would recommend less than the following recipe. 24 mg about 1/3 tsp. Ephedra Powder 300 mg or 1 capsule of Guarana powder 1 200mg Aspirin pill powdered 3 T. Honey or Sugar but honey works better Place in loose leaf tea strainer and seep in 2 cups of hot water for 2-4 minutes depending on taste. You can drink this tea up to 3 times a day. The ephedra in this mix is standardized at 8% so you get 24mg of ephedrine per 300mg ephedra powder. PS. Ephedra has a extremely harsh taste when it is not in a pill. Drink fast if you don't like the taste. Instead of tea I sometime mix the same ingredients into juice, or my cereal in the morning. This is not a diagnosis for everyone to try but simply a possible way to get low cost ephedra. |
| Ryan | posted 22-Mar-2009 11:11pm No sleep had to quit taking 2 before meals back to one. Poop a lot. Appetite lost still eat what I want, just less red meat. Take a vitamin for loss nutrition. P90X vids help too. 13lbs since 3/6/09. |
| Ken in Cali | posted 24-Mar-2009 4:24pm Just started taking this (Xenadrive RFA-1 new formula)on Monday 3/23/09.....I am on a strict diet that consumes 1300+/- calories per day in 3 meals and 2 snacks....all healthy of course.....Those calories come from 60% protein, 25% carbs, and 15% unsaturated fats. I attend a nutrition class on Tuesdays so I know I am eating right. I go to the Gym on Sun, Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri, I do a 10 min light jog with the tread mill set to 5.1 then I do 15 mins on the elliptical at a 45 speed (kills) the i do a walk on the tread mill at 3.5 for 5 mins to loosen the legs up some more....then I bust out 6 sets of 30 secs as fast as I can on the elliptical to get my heart rate to 150 - 155 then wait 30-45 secs to bring it down to 120 and then back again to 150-155 (you get the picture)wed. and sat. if work out with a group at a trainer. I drink at least a gallon of water a day. I will update my progress on Monday. |
| Ken in Cali | posted 24-Mar-2009 4:27pm I meant Xenadrine |
| Ken in Cali | posted 24-Mar-2009 4:28pm Oh and starting weight for taking this is 351 lbs at 6'1" |
| Ken in Cali | posted 24-Mar-2009 4:36pm One last note.....For those like Mandi that are having issues with dizziness and nausea....please eat more...you don't have to eat junk food but give your body something to get the calorie burn started....also do not eat artificial sweeteners....they are a fat burn inhibitor. They do not allow the body to take the fat you have and turn it into a burnable calorie....look it up if you don't believe me |
| Anonymous | posted 25-Mar-2009 1:04pm So I started taking the new xenadrine rfa-1 4 days ago and I have lost 4 lbs in the last 2 days. Not that I can say its directly from the pills because I am doing the billy blanks bootcamp abs and ultimate dvds 6 days a week and have been vigorously exercising for the last 3 weeks. But this is the first movement I've seen on the scale since I started. I'm sure these pills are helping but if your going to be lazy I would bet you woulnt get much of a result. But hey if these pills are helping me see a number change on the scale its just the motivation I needed! I have had zero side effects and its subduing my apetite and I have lots of energy. Make sure you drink your water and exercise with these and hopefully you too can get the ball rolling with your weight loss too! I'm 5'7" and 170 lbs looking to be 145 by july. I'll keep you all posted. ReginaGirl |
| Mandy | posted 31-Mar-2009 1:58pm Sheri, do you ever come to this site anymore? I am so curious to hear how Zenalean works. Or if anyone else has experience with products that are the same formula as the original Xenadrine RFA-1, for that matter (such as Superdrine RX-10). I took the original Xenadrine for years and LOVED it. |
| Mandy | posted 31-Mar-2009 2:23pm Oh, and by the way... I've seen a couple of different posts on here about the original dosage instructions, and I found an old website that used to sell the original RFA-1 that still has the ingredient list posted. As far as I can tell, it's correct. As far as how many per day, this site said just two in the morning and two in the afternoon - and that's how I remember taking them, too. I don't remember taking them before every single meal. XENADRINE® RFA-1 Serving size: 2 caps, Servings per container: 60 Each serving provides: Pantothenic Acid (calcium pantothenate)…40mg Bitter Orange (fruit & root)(standardized to 5mg Synephrine)…85mg Ma Huang (plant)(standardized for 20mg Ephedrine)…335mg Guarana Extract (seed)(standardized to 200mg Caffeine)…910mg Ginger Root…50mg Proprietary Thermosynergist Blend…380mg White Willow Bark Extract (standardized for 15mg Salicin), Ginger Root, L-Tyrosine, Acetyl L-Carnitine, 3,3’,4’,7-Tetrahydroxyflavone, magnesium phosphate, DMAE(2-dimethylaminoethanol) Recommended Use: Take two capsules before breakfast or morning exercise session, and two more capsules at mid-afternoon. Begin use with one-half the recommended dose (one capsule twice per day) for the first seven days to assess your tolerance. DO NOT EXCEED FOUR CAPSULES PER DAY. Please note: This product contains caffiene and salicin (a precursor to aspirin), and should not be taken by individuals wishing to eliminate these ingredients from their diet. *For best results, use as part of a reduced-fat diet and exercise program. |
| Anonymous | posted 1-Apr-2009 12:59pm OK.. you guys are saying it's banned but I just bought Xenadrine Clinical Strength RFA-1 at Walgreens 4/1/09???? |
| Anonymous | posted 1-Apr-2009 8:03pm Has anyone tried the new Xenadrine Fruit Punch drink mix? |
| Ken in Cali | posted 1-Apr-2009 9:06pm The new RFA-1 does not have the ephedrine in it......that is why you can buy it |
| Rick | posted 2-Apr-2009 11:06am Hi I am new to these boards as i just found them yesterday. I started taking xenadine RFA-1 in the beginning for February. The first week of February I went to the gym for 3 days, and got lazy and stopped going. I kept on taking the pills, and stopped taking them about 2 weeks ago. I started going back to the gym hard last week, and started taking the pills yesterday again. I don't take anything with them, no extra pills, no extra herbal stuff, just the pills. Since February 1st I have lost 16 pounds basically just by taking the pills and eating much better. I didn't think they were working until I got on the scale yesterday and was blown away by the results. People can tell the difference. I am 100% sure that from now on if i take the pills, combined with eating the way i have been, AND going to the gym i am going to lose much more weight. I have dropped 2 pant sizes and fit into clothes i couldn't before. I started at 200 pounds, and now i am 184. I am 25, and 5'6. The pills curve my appetite, but you need to make sure you eat correctly and exercise. |
| Anonymous | posted 2-Apr-2009 2:02pm Has anyone tried theromgenesis? sold in canada - made by Natures Lab. Just ordered 120 caps - contains Ephedra (supplying 30mg Ephedrine) 375 mg Kola-Nut (281mg caffeine) 375 mg White Willow Bark 50 mg Chromium Picolinate 400 mcg |
| stacy | posted 2-Apr-2009 10:28pm how long dose it show if you are lose weight or not? |
| Rick | posted 3-Apr-2009 8:38am For me, people noticed the difference in about a week and a half of when i first started taking the pills. I didn't tell anyone I started taking anything because i wanted to see if they would just notice it on their own. But again, this is with the gym and good eating, i dont know how it works without doing that. |
| Anonymous | posted 5-Apr-2009 12:13am This is the first time for me to take Xenadrine, I do not know if it really works. I just started on April 1st. What do you think guys? I am 170 pounds, I want to lose 40. I take 2 pills before breakfast and 2 before lunch. I walk for 1hr 30min 5 times a week and I try no to eat carbs, I drink 1 gallon of water a day. What else should I do, any advice? I was 202 pounds before but I feel like I am not loosing no more weight thats why I bought the pills but I would like to know if they really work or not. |
| Anonymous | posted 5-Apr-2009 1:21am Try doing something a little more vigarous than walking you'll see results faster. And a big thing I have foung on these pills is that it takes time I have been using them for a month and I only just started losing weight like crazy a pound every day or two but I'm also working out very hard 6 days a week and weight training. Just step er up a bit try doing jog intervals or something instead of just walking |
| Anonymous | posted 5-Apr-2009 1:22am Try doing something a little more vigarous than walking you'll see results faster. And a big thing I have foung on these pills is that it takes time I have been using them for a month and I only just started losing weight like crazy a pound every day or two but I'm also working out very hard 6 days a week and weight training. Just step er up a bit try doing jog intervals or something instead of just walking. And drink more water you'll pee a lot to begin with but it'll slow down after a week or so of drinking more. |
| Ken in Cali | posted 6-Apr-2009 12:52pm Update.......Lost 5lbs in one week of taking the pills......stopped taking the pills got extreme stomach cramps and diarrhea....lost 5 lbs without taking the pills.....I will not be using them any more. |
| Jaz | posted 7-Apr-2009 5:19am I have never tried the old xenedrine but, it pretty much sounds like the medication called Phentermine which I took when I went to the doctor ( Medical weight loss). I went there when I was in Fl, tried to find one in Louisiana but had no luck. What remeber from the medical diet is that I can only eat 10 ounce of protein a day for the first 3 days until my body is in the ketosis stage (When your body uses fat for energy ). I know 10 ounces of protein a day for the first 3 days sounds like massive starvation but, when you take the pill called Phentremine , You have to literally make yourself eat and yes it's prescription. So if any of you live in Tampa Fl and wants to see extrordinary results, you should give it a try. I did buy 2 bottles of Xenedrine but kinda confuse cause one say 20% more with 72 capsule is much cheaper then the one that says powerful new formula with onlu 60 capsule. I read and compared the ingredient and it was all the same. |
| Jaz | posted 7-Apr-2009 5:21am Oh I forgot, does anyone know any diet pills that makes you feel happy I guess not high lol. That's the feeling that Phentrimine gave me and I love it. Keeps me moving all day with no jitters |
| Jaz | posted 8-Apr-2009 12:39pm Update...WOw It works! I don''t know if xenedrine has any ingredients to help detoxify your body but it surely helps.I've been eating pretty much the same, I just try not to eat late at night and my stomach got WAY flatter. I will keep you guys updated on the results. Should definetly give it a try. |
| Anonymous | posted 23-Apr-2009 8:31pm i am only 21 years old, and not overweight so much. i have the extra love handles. i cannot lose these by just working out alone. i'm tempted to try these pills but fear that since i don't have a massive amount of weight to lose it won't work. i just want to drop 10lbs and get a flatter stomach. what do you think? |
| Anonymous | posted 23-Apr-2009 8:42pm does anyone know how the thermogenesis works? |
| Anonymous | posted 25-Apr-2009 6:12pm I have used and also sold RFA-1 and tried others and I can tell you nothing even comes close. I recenlty ran out and now am looking for more. 21 year old. This will make you lose 10 lbs. easy! In 2-3 weeks possibly. If you work out more. |
| Anonymous | posted 26-Apr-2009 3:15pm I have used RFA-1 for one week,but it doesn't work. Why? |
| Randy | posted 27-Apr-2009 2:03pm The original RFA-1 was a Godsent. In the summer of 2002 before my senior year in high school, I was 5' 7" 280 lbs, not great for a high schooler's self esteem. So I gave it a try. I used it religiously and by the correct dosage. I used it for alittle shy of 4 months and lost a total of 150 lbs. This was due to the pills and working as a drywall finisher with my grandfather. If you have ever spent drywalling and finished a new house you understand that one day of that is like a weeks worth of workouts times two. When I returned to school peoples' jaws dropped. I tell this story to people to this day and they never beleive me until I show them the pictures. Which it was hard to find a fat pic of me as I did not really want to be photographed then. Here it is almost 7 years later and I have gained back around 25-30 lbs but come on I RARELY exercised just regular daily activity and I don't really watch my diet so those gained lbs don't bother me. I recently have started a more sedentary job (sitting at a desk versus working on cars) so am noticing I'm loosening up the belt an extra noch. I really wish the original was still available. I do have about 60 pills left but there really old and probably not any good anymore. That is my story. That stuff was the sh*t and I think the ban needs lifted, just because it had side effects and it spiked national interest for a few weeks is not enough of a reason to ban it. Any drug has side effects, some you wonder how the h3ll do they sell that stuff? I never had any problems because I used it correctly! Quite punishing those that are benefiting because of a few peoples stupidity. |
| Anonymous | posted 29-Apr-2009 1:34pm Randy, My stash was from the same time and it lasted me til last year...It still has potency... |
| Anonymous | posted 1-May-2009 10:43am hi! i just bought xenadrine rfa-1 and i was wondering if there were any side affects besides heart attacks....like explosive diarrhea?! lol sorry i know thats kinda gross but i have heard that some weight loss pills (especially Alli) can cause this. i want to start taking the xenadrine but do not want any surprises! thaks |
| Anonymous | posted 4-May-2009 7:08pm The Xenadrine RFA-1 you have is the new kind. I have used RFA-1 for many years and never had Assplosions. Seriously never did. |
| mikinTx | posted 6-May-2009 2:53pm Anyone have feedback on Thermodrine, good or bad? Power-Sports-Nutrition sales person claimed it had ephedrine but when I received my package there was none listed on the ingredients label. Trying to decide if I give it a go or no - can't find much info about it (and keep getting placed on terminal hold when calling for a return authorization... hmmm). |
| Bih | posted 7-May-2009 12:18am I started on Monday the new xenadrine rfa1 but I can not sleep a lot like I usully did |
| kim | posted 9-May-2009 11:00am I started taking RFA-1 on Monday. Tuesday I had really bad diarrhea! I also took a laxative mon night, so I wasn't sure which one it was from. On wednesday I was fine and have been taking the RFA-1 everday since then. I have lost 5lbs! It really helps with eating. Make sure not to take the last dose too late in pm and you should be able to sleep better. Make sure to drink a lot of water and don't drink caffienated drinks. I want to lose 25 -30 lbs as fast as possible for summer! I use to take Hydroxycut and found that to be useless. I'm excited about the results I've already seen:) |
| Brad | posted 19-May-2009 12:20am Hey everyone! I apologize for being away so long. Just been busy with work. Today I was at Target doing some shopping and came across the new RFA-1. The packaging is EXTREMELY deceiving because it looks nearly identical to the original RFA-1. I remembered that I still had a lot of bottles of HCL tucked away and the price for 60 of the new RFA-1 was only $18. I figured what the hell and bought it. Starting tomorrow morning I will start the trials of combing 2 RFA-1 pills with 24mg of HCL in hopes of recreating exactly what RFA-1 used to be. I will not doing anything more or less than what I used to do when I took the original formula which means running 4 nights a week and cutting back on portions. I'll keep everyone posted. |
| Brad | posted 19-May-2009 9:52pm Just a quick update for those that care. Today was the first day using the "new" RFA-1 and 24mg of HCL. I woke up like usual at 8am, at a banana, took 2 RFA-1's and 3 8mg Ephedrine HCL tabs. Came home for lunch around 12:30 and had to force myself to eat something due to the massive appetite suppression. Took my last dose at 4pm and it is now almost 7pm. It's far, far too early to give any real-world results, but I can say without a doubt that this feels exactly the way I remember the original formula feeling. -Complete appetite suppression -Elevated heart rate -Elevated body temperature -Loads of energy I will keep everyone posted on my results as often as I feel there is something positive/negative to report. On a side note, if anyone is interested in the new formula and the company that now makes it, go to Google and search for "new xenadrine rfa-1 review". The first result is the page to read. I'd post a direct link but for some reason this forum isn't allowing me. It goes into detail about Cytodyne (the original maker) being bought out by the current company and it explains what the current ingredients are intended to do. -Brad |
| Anonymous | posted 20-May-2009 1:25pm I've been taking rfa-1 for about 3 weeks and for the past week have been combining an 16mg of ephedrine hcl a day with it. I've lost around 15lbs so far with eating less, doing smaller, more frequent meals, and being more active. Mainly just calisthenics as i have no weights or access to a gym right now. I made the mistake of not weighing myself before i started. I didn't get a scale until i had already dropped a notch on my belt. Either way i seem to be losing about 5 lbs a week at this rate. Not sure wether or not adding in the extra ephedrine is helping or not yet. I'm not taking nearly as much as Brad is. The combination of the 2 rfa pills and 1 hcl 8mg pill gets me rather wired and i don't know how well i'd handle adding even more in. Once i tolerate it better i may ad in a 2nd 8mg pill with the rfa. |
| Brad | posted 20-May-2009 5:10pm @ Anonymous It's nice to see that I'm not the only one on here trying this combination. Last night (the first day of using the combo) was somewhat difficult to fall asleep. I'm usually in bed and asleep no later than 11, but last night I don't think I actually fell asleep until close to 1am. 24mg of HCL is a lot, even for me. I have loads of energy all day long, but I am also quite jittery and have a short attention span. If you are not used to ephedrine I do not recommend anyone starting at the dose I am using. Granted this is only 4mg more of HCL per dose than the original RFA-1 had in it, it feels quite a bit stronger. I am not going to take the final dose today at 4:00 like yesterday to see if that helps me fall asleep like normal. Once my body gets used to this I will go back up to 3 doses each day. It is also nice to see that you are having success with this combo. Did you get the idea from this board or did you come up with it on your own? Also, what brand of HCL are you using? |
| Anonymous | posted 21-May-2009 7:46am I got the idea from reading here. I bought the Kaizen HCL on the website listed above. Another thing i'm doing is drinking A LOT of water. Well over the 8-10 cups a day that are recommended on the Xenadrine. I used to drink 2-3 sodas a day at work, plus some coffee, and then more soda at home. Now it's none of that and all water. |
| Sally | posted 21-May-2009 10:47pm I'm 20 and nearly 200lbs and just started the new xenadrine RFA-1. I've been exercising for 30-40 minutes a day on the elliptical and am on a lower calorie diet. I was wondering what kind of results I can expect, if any? I started taking the pills on Tuesday, but I'm not using 6 a day like they recommend (I'm only using 1-2). Thanks in advance! |
| Anonymous | posted 21-May-2009 10:56pm @ Anonymous Glad to hear. Keep me as well as the others posted on your results if you can. I look forward to hearing how your results compare to mine. As far as me, I skipped the last dose yesterday but took it today. I think my body is adjusting to it because I didn't feel nearly as jittery today. I am drinking nothing but water and juice (100% juice. No additives.). My breakfast consists of fruit I'll drink a bottle of Super Food from Odwalla (which is suprisingly tasty considering it's horrible color). I haven't started running yet as I am waiting until payday to get some decent running shoes. I don't have any results on the scale yet, but after only 3 days I think it would be pretty ridiculous to expect any. |
| Brad | posted 21-May-2009 10:58pm The above post is from me. Forgot to enter my name. |
| Anonymous | posted 22-May-2009 6:09pm I started the pills last Monday, May 18 and I have lost 4.8 pounds (today is Friday 5-21). I'm taking six pills a day like recommended. I have been working out consistently with at least 40 minutes of cardio a day and I have reduced my calories. However, I was on the same diet and workout plan for the past 4 weeks. It's really providing the motivation to keep eating well and working out. |
| Jen | posted 24-May-2009 11:24am The original ingredients were: Pantothenic acid 40mg, Bitter orange 85mg, Ma Huang 335mg, Guarana Extract 910mg, White Willow Bark (blend) 390 mg. I wasn't sure if anyone had answered Sheri, but according to her post, it seems like her pills are 1/2 the original formula. I saved my last empty bottle when I heard it was banned. |
| Brad | posted 25-May-2009 6:36pm The one week update: Today it has been one week since I began taking the new RFA-1 and 24mg of HCL with each dose. I feel great!!! I have lost 5lbs according the scale, and what's even better is I can notice it in the mirror! My belt is too big now so I now have to go get a new belt. My shirts are fitting better already and my jeans could be pulled down if I didn't have a belt. I don't wear baggy clothes at all so that should give you a good idea. My body has become fully adjusted to the supplement and I have very, very few of the side effects still. I'm still a little jittery, but nothing bad at all. It also seems that when I take this supplement it elevates my mood as well. I just feel more upbeat and happy in general. I start my running routine Wednesday so I will update again in another week with my results. |
| Anonymous | posted 26-May-2009 11:35am It has been 2 wks that I have used rfa-1 and I have lost 7 pounds I'm also doing a low calorie diet. I was 173 and today am 166 I want to lose 20 pounds more. Am 5'8 |
| Bob | posted 26-May-2009 11:59am I was the anonymous one who posted a few back about taking HCL w/ the RFA-1. It's been just over a month total now and i've lost 20 lbs so far. I'm up to taking the 6 rfa-1's a day and 16mg of hcl with each does. I don't get so hyper and jittery any more so i've debated upping it to 24mg like Brad is. I'm just about to start following a regimented work out routine as compared to the sparatic exercise i've been doing. I'm actually only about 10 lbs away from my goal weight but i would like to tone up a bit to go with that. Ill keep everyone posted. |
| Anonymous | posted 26-May-2009 2:05pm bob what was your wieght before and now |
| Bob | posted 27-May-2009 2:26pm 206+ down to 186 now. I say plus because i didn't weigh myself before i started and i certainly had lost some weight before i ever jumped on the scale. I lost enough that i had to go a notch tighter on my belt before stepping on a scale. |
| Anonymous | posted 27-May-2009 11:22pm Has any body heard about D4 |
| Brad | posted 28-May-2009 11:19pm @ Anonymous I had never heard of D4 until I read your post. I've done about 2 hours of research on it today, and from the reviews I'm reading it sounds like this stuff is amazing. For those of you that would like to learn about this product go to... cellucor.com ...as they are they makers of this product. They offer a stack on their website for $199 that includes D4 and T7. From everything I've read today the combination of those 2 together provide incredible results. I am still a little skeptical about the whole thing, but after reading so many reviews from "real" people all praising this product, it's very hard not to want to try it. You can read reviews on this stuff at... supplementcritic.com/reviews/d4_extreme What's really nice also about those reviews is that they are very recent. I personally am going to continue using the combo of RFA-1 and the 24mg of HCL until I am out of the RFA-1. I am now running about 2 miles a night and I am on a VERY low calorie/fat diet (no more than 500 calories a day). If I don't see good results by the end of the bottle I will give that $200 stack a shot. |
| Anonymous | posted 29-May-2009 4:37pm Well the reason why I asked was because my boyfriend told me that D4 works realy good I have been using it for 4 days and a have lost 2 pounds and 2 inches. |
| Brad | posted 29-May-2009 5:45pm @ Anonymous That's really good to hear. Not to take away from what you've lost, but typically the first weight you drop when you take a pill like this is merely just water weight. It can take anywhere from 2-4 weeks to actually see "real" results. If you don't mind, could you keep us updated weekly on your results and what your routine is (ie what you eat, how much you exercise, etc). Like I had previously mentioned, if after the bottle of RFA-1 is out and I haven't seen the results I want, I am going to give my money to Cellucor to see if they can pull it off. |
| Anonymous | posted 29-May-2009 7:41pm Can anyone tell me how exactly Xenadrine works, specically as it relates to low carb dieters? |
| Brad | posted 29-May-2009 9:53pm Xenadrine with Ephedrine elevates your heart rate which causes your body to burn more calories. It is also an appetite suppressant and energy booster. That's the very simple explanation. As far as how it works with someone on a low carb diet, I don't notice any side effects out of the norm. |
| Anonymous (Lupe) | posted 29-May-2009 10:17pm brad yes you're right the fist thing you loose is water. I was first taking hidroxycut but i got a realy bad rash so then i waited one week for my body to get clean and then i started to take xenadrine for two weeks and I lost 6 pounds. But I knew it was just water so my boyfriend came one day with D4 and told me that D4 was better. So I started to take it on tuesday. And I have lost 2 pounds and 2 inches. What I do is a low calorie diet and I run 30 min and I walk for 30-35 min 7 days a week. No alcohol or chips which I love :( for example in the morning a 1/2 cup of oatmilk with 8oz of 2% milk. For a snack I'll have a cup of papaya then for lunch I'll have tuna with baby carrots for snack I'll have 1med orange for dinner I'll have a salad with chicken for for snack I'll have more fruit. My dinner is before 7:00 pm and during the day I drink lots of water. I know it's hard but when i need some chips what I do I'll have 1 or 2. Am 5'8 and I was 173 today am 165 and I want to loose 15-20 more pounds. Am giving my self 6 months to loose them by the way my name is Lupe |
| Lee | posted 30-May-2009 1:06am I just bought the Xenadrine RFA-1 from Walmart - will start it tomorrow. The only thing is I don't really have time to exercise. I wonder if it it'll still have some effect. I don't have much weight to lose, just the stubborn 10 lbs mostly around my waist. Wish me luck. PS - is it possible to buy the HCL in stores? I'm nervous about online purchases. |
| wapowell | posted 31-May-2009 1:38pm @Lee: Are you in the US? If so, then I would say not it's not possible to legally buy HCL in a store here. Well, maybe if you found some really shady store that sold it on the shelf, but selling HCL is illegal here in the US. I just ordered some of the 8mg from snd today. I'll let you know if it is delivered to the US ok. I've ordered various products online before from bodybuilding.com or GNC and have had no issues. This is my first order from snd so I am a little uncomfortable. I'm planning on combining the HCL (maybe 16 mgs) with the doses of Xenadrine RFA-1. I'll update with my progress. -Bill |
| Brad | posted 31-May-2009 3:37pm @ Lee If you aren't going to exercise while taking it, don't expect to see results. This isn't a magic pill that is going to do all of the hard work for you. You have to put in more effort than swallowing a couple of pills. It will still suppress your appetite, but if you aren't working out then your body instead of burning those calories is going to go into "starvation mode" and store every little bit it can. You'll be wasting your money and your hopes. |
| Flick | posted 31-May-2009 3:45pm sharing my Xenadrine results. I decided to go on a diet cuz i figured it was time to lose a few lbs, I started off with hydroxycut i took about 2 days worth of pills, then they threw down the recall on it, so I had to switch, the guy at GNC mentioned xenadrine, so I decided to give it a shot. since April 15th I have lost 22lbs (5day a week workouts). Im not sure that is good, or as fast as others may want to lose the weight. But Xen deffinetly seems to starve the appitite. |
| Lee | posted 31-May-2009 9:45pm Thanks Bill - no, I'm located in Canada. I'm doing my research online on where/how to safely order HCL without getting ripped off... not easy. So advice would be great. Brad - point taken, after starting xenadrine yesterday, I got a huge burst of energy. I just ran for 35 minutes, which I'll gradually increase. I"ll definitely be adding exercise into my routine, especially with the amount of energy I've got now. |
| Lee | posted 31-May-2009 10:03pm If anyone knows if I can find HCL in a store in Canada (smallest quantity just so I can try it out), that would be ideal. I'm still hesitant about online purchases... |
| Lee | posted 31-May-2009 10:25pm Sorry for the barrage of questions guys... but I'm reading online that it's dangerous to take HCL on a daily basis for more than 7 days. Is this true? Do you guys take it daily? |
| Brad | posted 1-Jun-2009 1:10pm @ Lee That's very good to hear about you running. Believe it or not, you'll get to a point very quickly where you look forward to running because you just feel good when you do. As far as buying it from a store in Canada, yes you can. Granted, I have never been to Canada, but I have read many, many times that you can buy the Kaizen 8mg tabs from most nutrition/body building/health stores. I know you are hesitant about buying from where most of us have gotten ours, but I can assure you that it is 100% legit. I have placed 3 orders with them over the past 8 months and I have never once had an issue. As far as it being dangerous or not, yes there are risk factors in taking something that elevates blood pressure and heart rate. I am not a doctor so I can not give you advice that you should take to heart. However, I used to cycle my usage of HCL on for 2 months and off for 1 week. I've never had any health issues, but everyone is different. |
| curious | posted 1-Jun-2009 2:50pm I just went into my local Wal-Mart and bought Xenadrine RFA-1......i read above that this was discontinued in the US....i have a hard time believing that Wal-Mart would still be carrying this as a staple weight loss supplement. Maybe ephredra was taken out of it.........?? |
| curious | posted 1-Jun-2009 3:18pm ok, after reading the previous posts i see that this must be the "new formula" without ephedrine. i am sure it will work......even if it is only a little extra kick then its worth it! |
| Anonymous | posted 1-Jun-2009 7:16pm Good luck |
| Lee | posted 1-Jun-2009 7:53pm Thanks Brad. You're right. The energy I get now is amazing - and I'm normally a sluggish person. This is great! I decided to take a leap and buy the HCL online... found the Kaizen 8 mg, 50 tabs for like 15 bucks, including shipping... paid with PayPal, so I didn't have to give CC. Looking forward to receiving it. |
| shawna 6/2/09 | posted 2-Jun-2009 12:45pm Question..... just wondering if the Xenadrine RFA-1 powder mix is okay to use instead of the pills??? How many drinks a day would u recommend? Thank u!! |
| shawna 6/2/09 | posted 2-Jun-2009 12:46pm or maybe can u use drink mix and the pills and how muchb of each a day? |
| Anonymous | posted 2-Jun-2009 1:05pm I think you should take the pills and the mix. I don't think the mix if that strong by it self |
| curious | posted 2-Jun-2009 2:15pm ok. i took my first two pills about 30 mins ago....i will take them only before lunch everyday until i need to up it to twice a day and then 3 times a day......i feel high! i am all jittery! i have taken adipex from my family doctor before and this is the same feeling.....energy, thirst for water, and lack of appitite. i will eat lunch in about 20 mins..........this is just what i needed! |
| wapowell | posted 2-Jun-2009 3:13pm edited 2-Jun-2009 4:57pm Well, I bought some RFA-1 drink mix. So far so good. I feel a little energy boost, but not nearly as pronounced as the old formula of Xenadrine with eph. Also, I am much thirstier since I started taking these drinks. I'm following the directions and taking the drink about 30 to 60 minutes before a meal. My schedule has been quite hectic, so I haven't exercised since Saturday (I started taking RFA-1 on Sunday). I'll resume exercise (swimming) tonight. I ordered the 8mg eph (600 count) from SND. No word yet from them so I don't know if they've shipped it out to me yet or not. Hopefully they don't sit on the order for a week before sending it out (had that happen with other vendors before). What was everyone else's experience with SND? Did they ship in a resonable time or did the order seem to fall into a black hole until oneday it just arrives at your door? EDIT: I went to the website, sent them an email and they responded quickly saying that my order would be shipped out today. COOL! Not so fast... I went back to the site a few minutes ago and the site no longer displays the SND site. O.o Instead it now displays a generic cPanel page as if it is a brand new server installation. I wonder what happened, and I wonder if I really will get my shipment. :( -Bill |
| Brad | posted 2-Jun-2009 5:48pm @ wapowell Just went to their website and it seems to be up and running as normal. |
| Lee | posted 2-Jun-2009 9:53pm I ordered HCL from livepurehealth.ca, and just got an email from Canada Post with the shipping status and that I can expect its arrival June 3... totally took care of my fear of online purchases. So I wanted to ask you guys, when I get it tomorrow, what should my start dosage be? I'm still doing 1 xenadrine 30-60 mins before a meal. I think I'm going to stay at this dosage, because years ago when I took the xenadrine at the 2 pill dosage, I remember having a hard time sleeping at night. I'm on a low carb diet, running 35 mins, haven't stepped on the scale yet.... will do that after a full week and send an update. BTW - I think it's great that I stumbled across this site with all of your support. |
| Brad | posted 2-Jun-2009 10:03pm Lee, If you had problems with sleeping when using the original RFA-1, you should probably just start with 1 8mg tablet of the HCL. The original RFA-1 had 10mg of HCL per pill, so use that as a reference. Results on my end are positive, but much slower than I remember them being with the original RFA-1. There's a local Dr in my area that for $80 a month will prescribe Phentermine along with monthly weigh-ins. I've done a lot of research on that product and it seems to be very positive. However, most people that take Phentermine have a significant amount of weight they want to lose. I'm only looking for 25-30lbs. I don't know if I have posted my stats yet, but I'm 26yrs old and 5'11" weighing in at 205. I want to get back down to the 185 area. |
| wapowell | posted 2-Jun-2009 11:56pm @Brad - Yeah it looks like I was having a DNS issue with my internet provider. From my home computer the SND site loaded a weird cPanel page, but from my iPhone (not using BrightHouse's network) the site loaded fine. Hmmm,.. All's well now though. |
| Bob | posted 3-Jun-2009 7:27am I've ordered from snd twice now and have gotten both orders within a weeks time. |
| dado | posted 3-Jun-2009 11:56am hi i am taking the new xenadrine rfa 1 with a diet and exersice should it works ? |
| wapowell | posted 3-Jun-2009 3:24pm @Brad When you take eph with RFA-1 do you combine it with anything else? Just wondering if RFA-1 and eph make a ECA stack, or if something else is needed. |
| Brad | posted 3-Jun-2009 4:06pm @wapowell The original RFA-1 was based on the ECA stack, but it just had more ingredients. As far as the new formula, I know that it has caffeine in it but I'm not sure if it has acetaminophen. I'd have to look at the ingredients again to find out. The whole reason why I had so much HCL laying around is because I tried the ECA stack several months ago. If you scroll up a ways on here you'll see that I talked about it. However, I never saw ANY results from that. My body felt amped, so I know it was doing something. It just didn't do what I wanted it to. I gave up on using HCL for a little while until I came across the new RFA-1 formula in Target one day. Figured I'd try adding the HCL to the new formula to simulate the original formula. It's now been roughly 3 weeks and I DO have positive results, but they aren't the results I remember from the original formula. It just seems that I'm busting my butt more this time around than I originally did and am having less weight loss when compared to before. I'm not taking anything else. I'm just drinking as much water as I can throughout the day and eating a VERY low calorie diet. Basically just water, fruits and veggies, and tuna. I remember after one week on the original formula I had dropped 8lbs. It's been close to 3 weeks and I haven't lost as much as I should have. I'm going in to a local doctor that prescribes Phetermine next week. It's $80 a month, but that's what the new RFA-1 formula and having to order HCL would come to be anyway. I'll keep everyone posted. |
| Lee | posted 3-Jun-2009 8:52pm Brad, just a thought, do you have more weight in the mid section than anywhere else? Do you think you could have high levels of cortisol? Because sometimes when you work out, eat right, taking suppliments but see no or little results, it could just be stress causing high cortisol release bringing more fat to the mid area. Are you stressed? By your last post, it sounds like your diet is pretty good - low carb and high protein. Or maybe you're eating too little calories? |
| Brad | posted 3-Jun-2009 9:33pm @Lee Yeah, the majority of what I want to lose is in my mid section, but it isn't just that area. I'm a graphic designer and deal with high levels of stress on pretty much a daily basis due to clients always needing their jobs ASAP, but my body has always divided excess weight the same my whole life. You bring up a good point of possibly not taking in enough calories. My body may still be trying to hold on to everything it gets due to such a low level of intake. The Dr/Dietician next week should hopefully clear these concerns up. Thank you for caring, though. :) |
| John | posted 4-Jun-2009 10:53am I just wanted to say thank you to everyone on this site. I just got fooled into buying RFA-1 too. Brad, by taking 2 pills a day along with "Kaizen Ephedrine HCL 8mg" from sndonline.net, along with some exercise, do you think I will be just fine? I need to drop 20 - 30 (currently at 240 lbs). John |
| Anonymous | posted 4-Jun-2009 4:01pm @John Everyone is different and nothing is guaranteed. However, everyone on here so far that has used that combo along with exercise and a healthy diet is seeing results. If you do decide to use HCL with RFA-1, keep us posted on your results. |
| Brad | posted 4-Jun-2009 4:02pm Whoops. Forgot to add my name to the above post again. |
| Lynn | posted 4-Jun-2009 10:13pm Thank you all for posting your knowledge on this blog. i have found it to be very informative. I am interested in trying the satcker and would like to know a couple things from the people who are using it. One: Is it still going to well for those of you who have been using it for a month or more? Two: It is my understanding that after 2 weeks your body grows accustomed to it and its effects start to dissipate. So, is anyone cycling - perhpas using it for two weeks - off for a week - and then back on? Three: I live in the US but, I am heading to Windsor Ontario next week. Does anyone know exactly where I could buy Ephedrine HCL 8mg in a store. Kaizen brand, I suppose? Thanks for any info! |
| Lee | posted 4-Jun-2009 10:36pm Just an update - today, I had one 8mg HCL tablet with my morning xenadrine, then another 8mg tablet with my lunch xenadrine. As for my dinner xenadrine, I didnt include an HCL. The energy level is through the roof, I ran for double the time today than I normally do. The appetite is totally supressed. My mouth is constantly dry - like I am always thirsty. I drank about 2 litres of water during the day, and another 2 litres during/after my workout. Now it's night time, and it feels a little like a crash and burn - very tired, little dizzy and increased heart rate. It might because I didn't sleep much last night. Tomorrow I might just take one 8mg tablet for the day. |
| Dandy | posted 4-Jun-2009 11:20pm Guys, this has been great information I have the RFA-1 new and I have ordered the kaizen. Im in the US and they say its on its way so we will see. I am currently taking the old RFA-1, had some left over from the original bottle (a gajillian years ago)and I saw that someone on here said that it should still be good, who knows. I felt more energy today and I did two workouts so it must still have some power to it. Took one in the mornin (round 8)and one in the day (round 3). I thought I would take the old stuff till the kaizen arrives. Well so far so good. I usually do not upgrade to the two pills at a time I feel like 1 is enough and I generally dont take one before dinner because well I would be up forever. So I take one in the morning before a 45minute run on the treadmil and one during the day at around 3pm so that Ill have energy before my evening workout (P90X). So when the Kaizen comes I will take 1 new RFA-1 and 1 Kaizen twice a day at these same times. What do you guys think? Thanks again for all the great info CHEERS |
| Anonymous | posted 5-Jun-2009 1:19am @Lynn I haven't yet been on it for a month. I'm just now hitting the 3 week mark, but I can say for certain that my body has built up a tolerance to it. I have actually added in another HCL (now totally 4 at a time) as well as another RFA-1 (now totally 3 at a time). My body really isn't that sensitive to caffeine as I used to drink a large cup of coffee each morning and anywhere between 1-2 BIG sugar free Red Bulls each day. I in no way at all recommend anyone take the dose I am taking. As far as where you can buy it in Canada, I don't know specific locations. I do know that there are actual brick and mortar SND stores (not related to sndonline.net). If you go to sndcanada.com you can find locations. @Lee That's very good to hear! I'm really happy that this combo is working for you! The way you feel towards the end of your day is very similar to how I feel as well. There definitely seems to be a significant crash that tends to make me feel somewhat light headed and tired. I have a strong feeling that it is due to such a low caloric intake on my end. @Dandy Welcome! If you have any questions once you begin taking the HCL, there are quite a few people in this forum now that should be able to help you out. I wish you the best of luck and don't forget to keep us all updated on your results. :) |
| Brad | posted 5-Jun-2009 1:19am I can't believe I did it again. |
| bill | posted 5-Jun-2009 5:09am You know, you can just create an account... it's quick/easy and the site will remember you. |
| Brad | posted 5-Jun-2009 9:45pm Never knew that. Neat. |
| Dandy | posted 6-Jun-2009 12:21am Thanks Brad. Has anyone tried the making the tea like Aaron, RD suggested by buying the herb ingriedients? that sounds like an interesting idea. |
| Eric | posted 6-Jun-2009 10:40pm Hey there Brad~! Thanks for updating your results, I have just went over this forum and read all your posts. I have decided to take the plunge and I have ordered Kaizen Ephedrine hcl from a website I found here on this forum, along with the new non ephedra xenadrine formula you can find at target for the caffeine boost. I have been using ephedra products since late 2001 while I was in the Army. I obviously haven't been taking it on a daily basis and give myself breaks for various time periods and I am still alive and kicking lol. I wanted to ask you something, when are you working out? Are you working out before you take the pills or right after, or take them in the morning and then work out late in the afternoon (8hrs kinda time frame) ? Just fyi, I normally would take RipFuel, or Xenadrine an hour or so after my workout early in the morning and that would kick start my day. I made the mistake of taking some before our morning workout and ended up throwing my guts up on the baseball field. Sorry for the long post, I will be on the lookout for your response! |
| lt | posted 6-Jun-2009 11:18pm Hi everyone, I have been taking the RFA-1 for about a month and I have not been working out as much. So of course not much weight loss. This question is for the ladies. Sorry guys. Has there been a change in your cycle? Either longer than normal and/or heavier? Other wise I have no other side effects, I have taken many diet pills before |
| Anonymous | posted 7-Jun-2009 12:13am Hello everyone..Starting back taking RFA-1 today..Lost 13 pounds in 2 weeks last time.. now going for 30 |
| Brad | posted 7-Jun-2009 1:01pm @Eric I wake up every morning (Monday-Friday) at 8am and eat breakfast. I take my first dose (32mg of HCL and 3 RFA-1) at about 8:30am. I go to work and take my second dose (same amount) at 12. I eat lunch at 12:30 which is usually an orange with some almonds or a plain tuna sandwich on 100% whole wheat bread. I take my next dose at about 4pm (same amount) and I get off of work at 6pm. I then eat dinner and then go for my run at 9pm each night. So the easy answer to your question is that I take my last dose about 5hrs before I run. I would like to take it an hour before I run, but since I run so late at night I doubt I would be able to fall asleep if I took the last dose that late into the day. I would love to go running at about 6 in the morning, but I am not a morning person haha. Hope this helps you and I'm glad to hear that this forum has helped you as well! Keep us posted! |
| Brad | posted 7-Jun-2009 1:04pm @Anonymous I wish you the best of luck, but I urge you to read through the last 6 months of this forum to give you an idea of what the new RFA-1 formula is about. |
| Brad | posted 8-Jun-2009 1:35pm I am now highly considering staying on this combo of HCL and RFA-1. I stepped on the scale this morning and I have dropped 14lbs in just over 3 weeks. |
| wapowell | posted 8-Jun-2009 3:23pm Hi everyone. For those that are skeptical of ordering hcl from an online vendor, I am happy to say that I ordered from SND on 5/30 and got my shipment today (only took 5 business days). Now, let the weight loss begin! @Brad - Good job! 14 lbs in 3 weeks is very cool. I hope to have similar results. |
| Brad | posted 9-Jun-2009 1:18am @wapowell Thanks! I'm not sure what happened. I checked it a couple of days ago and was incredibly discouraged with how little had been lost. I step on it today and it was a shock. I actually picked up the scale to make sure it was dialed in correctly. It's also nice to hear that SND is still an excellent source for HCL and you're happy with their service. |
| Dandy | posted 9-Jun-2009 10:24pm You know whats supper hilarious? I don't even have a scal. Gotta go out an get me one of those.This is my second week and I was at the doctor last week and was weighed so I do have a starting point. |
| Amber | posted 10-Jun-2009 11:38am I have been on this diet for 3 days and I have lost 3 pounds.. |
| Brad | posted 10-Jun-2009 6:19pm Alright, so I went to that appointment today for the doctor/nutritionist and I left with a months supply of 37.5mg Phentermine for $80. The doctor was very nice, but overall I felt like the appointment was just for show. He basically just discussed what you should and should not do to lose weight (which is everything I've already been doing to the T), took my weight and blood pressure then just handed me a bottle of Phen. I know that any further updates will not help most of, if not any of you, out. But if it DOES work, I would like for you all to know of a different option as opposed to the HCL and RFA-1. According to him I am starting at 210lbs (which is more than my scale at home says) and I will go back in in a month so he can "evaluate" my results. Fingers crossed. |
| wapowell | posted 10-Jun-2009 8:41pm @Brad How did you find this doc? I assume this isn't just a regular primary care doctor but rather one that if from a weight loss clinic. Was the doctor visit and the Phen $80, or was the $80 just for the Phen but the doctor's visit was extra? If after a month I'm not getting as good a result from the HCL+RFA-1 then I'd like to try Phen also. |
| Brad | posted 10-Jun-2009 9:43pm @wapowell There is a local paper in the city I live in that always has advertisements in the back. I was just flipping through it and saw an ad claiming "Lose 20lbs a month for only $80 a month". I sent an email and the actual doctor wrote back fairly quick. It was $80 total for the consultation and Phen. I'm not sure exactly what this office specializes in, but it's in a very rundown part of town and while I was waiting to be seen it seemed like the majority of the people there were getting ready to take drug tests. This place isn't related in any way to my actual healthcare provider. Like I had mentioned, it seemed like the whole consultation was just for show. Don't get me wrong, he was very nice and answered the questions I had, but it just seemed "unprofessional" as far as what I would expect for something like that. He never asked if I exercised or what my diet consisted of. He basically just talked about what most people already know when it comes to weight loss (ie. exercise, eat healthy). I won't even be seeing him personally for 3 months. He said for the following two appointments it will consist of seeing the nurse, having her weigh me and refilling my script. The Phen I was given is the time release kind. You're supposed to take it first thing when you wake up in the morning on an empty stomach and it works for 12 hours. I got out of his office today at 2 and couldn't resist, so I took one. It's now 6:30 and I'm not sure how to describe it. I have a lot of energy, but it's not the same kind as with HCL. It's VERY smooth. I feel very alert and coherent, more-so than normal. My appetite has never been this suppressed from a diet pill. I am somewhat worried about sleeping tonight though, or at least at a reasonable hour. Even though it's a very smooth energy boost, I can already tell that it's going to be very difficult to fall asleep. |
| Anonymous | posted 11-Jun-2009 11:09am Brad in what state or city is the doctor |
| Brad | posted 11-Jun-2009 4:02pm Northern California. |
| Anonymous | posted 12-Jun-2009 9:50pm Hi I'm getting ready to take the new RFA-1 but was wondering if anyone takes other prescription medication with this? I currently take Cymbalta for depression, Synththroid (sp?) for thyroid and Estratest for estrogen. They say not to take this with prescription medication, but do you think it will hurt me? I have about 50 pounds to lose and am going to try this with eating better and exercising |
| Brad | posted 12-Jun-2009 10:37pm edited 12-Jun-2009 10:47pm @Anonymous You should not take ANYONE'S advice on here to heart. No one on here is a doctor which means no one can tell you if what you take will be harmful or not, especially without a physical evaluation. You should only take what you read on here as other peoples experiences. With that being said, in my opinion I would not suggest you take RFA-1 without permission from your healthcare provider. You are taking some fairly intense medications that are in place to help you. If you add in an appetite suppressant as well as the other ingredients that boost your energy there could be severe consequences when used in conjunction with your current medications. The 3 medications you listed ARE quite powerful in the sense that they are altering your brains chemistry. There really is no sense in taking something like RFA-1 without your doctors consent. I'm sorry if this is coming across rather harsh because I don't intend it to be. Your experiences would be welcomed here with open arms so long as you are responsible with what you choose to do. |
| wapowell | posted 13-Jun-2009 10:53am @Anonymous I agree 100% with Brad. When thinking about mixing any supplement with prescription medications, your first stop should be your healthcare provider. Though some people on this board have experience with RFA-1 and other supplements, you need your doctor to evaluate the contraindications when taking RFA-1 whilst taking prescription meds. I can certainly relate to the desire/need to lose some weight, but safety is always the first concern. |
| Anonymous | posted 14-Jun-2009 3:14pm can you smoke marijuana while taking xenadrine RFA-1? |
| Brad | posted 14-Jun-2009 5:22pm Thank you, wapowell. I'm glad there's someone who views taking supplements like these as serious as I do. @Anonymous I used to know someone who smoked marijuana and took the original RFA-1 without any negative side effects. You should refer to my previous post, though. Granted you wont have approval from a doctor due to the marijuana, it still falls under the same category of mixing multiple substances. |
| Anonymous | posted 14-Jun-2009 5:54pm so i shouldnt smoke it ? or like can i |
| Brad | posted 14-Jun-2009 7:01pm @Anonymous I'm not saying yes or no. I was just saying that I knew someone who used to smoke daily and took RFA-1 without any negative side effects. I personally wouldn't combine the two, but that's me. |
| Anonymous | posted 14-Jun-2009 10:36pm well i smoked it and i feel fine lol could i be able to drink alcohol |
| Brad | posted 14-Jun-2009 10:43pm edited 15-Jun-2009 12:06am @Anonymous If you are trying to lose weight you shouldn't be drinking anything other than water and some juice occasionally. Alcohol turns to sugar which then turns to fat. You do the math. |
| Amber | posted 15-Jun-2009 11:49am Started My Diet on Monda June 8..and now it is The next week over and lost 9 pounds..Loving this diet |
| Brad | posted 15-Jun-2009 4:03pm @ Amber What diet are you on? |
| Anonymous | posted 15-Jun-2009 9:44pm I have been taking the Xenadrine RFA-1 I drink a shake in the morning Lunch turkey and cheese wraps Dinner-baked meat or grilled with SMALL salad But i also do 5 miles a day! |
| Brad | posted 15-Jun-2009 10:06pm @Anonymous I'm glad to hear you found a combination that works for you. How much water would you say you drink daily? |
| Anonymous | posted 15-Jun-2009 10:10pm I just started taking Zenalean Pro yesterday. I feel fine. I loved Xenadrine (original) I lost 30 pounds in 1 month. I hope Zenalean works as well. : ) |
| Lisa | posted 16-Jun-2009 10:29pm I have now been taking the new RFA for two days. I have lost 6 pounds and a and inch to an inch and a half in different places. My belt is one notch lighter. I am alert but not jittery like so many others have mentioned. I am very awake and don't feel the need for a nap(s) like I usually do. I also stay in a great mood. Don't know if I can attribute this to the drug or to the weight I've lost and the hope of more. I also don't think I get jittery because only tons of caffeine can do that to me and I don't think there is enough in xenadrine to cause that effect. I also don't take it on an empty stomach as is recommended. I don't take any meds or vitamins on an empty stomach. I eat something that has a little bit of substance, like some crackers or a piece of cheese. Is there anyone else that is taking this with small meals? |
| Lisa | posted 16-Jun-2009 10:31pm Also, if you'd like to follow my progress and comments, I have set up a blog. xenadrineweightloss.blogspot.com. Not as nice as this one (it's my first attempt with the 21st century!), but the info is there. Everyone is welcome to visit and comment. Support is definitely welcomed! |
| amber | posted 18-Jun-2009 2:43pm Lisa, What is an example of your daily diet and excerise...I am currently taking RFA and I have lost 9 pounds in my first week and not so much this week.. please share |
| Lisa | posted 18-Jun-2009 4:42pm Amber, I am blogging all of it at www.xenadrineweightloss.blogspot.com. I'm not eating much, but what I am eating is healthy. As for the exercise, I haven't changed anything. I don't have a regime. It's just normal everyday walking for errands, etc. Haven't even been on my bike or swimming lately. 7 lbs. in 3 days. Sure hope I don't plateau after the first week! |
| wapowell | posted 19-Jun-2009 9:30am Well, I think I fell into the same trap I did years ago on the original RFA formula. While taking the new RFA formula and adding in 16 - 24mg of eph My appetite dropped like a rock. I had energy and the jitters went away after a couple days. So far so good. However, what I didn't realize was that I ended up eating too little. I started feeling VERY depleted and sluggish. I thought I mustbe getting sick because I was still eating and drinking water. But when I really looked at what I was eating, I was taking in just under 1000 calories a day. OUCH! So, just a minor set-back. I eased up on the RFA and eph, and now am watching very carefully that while I do have a supressed appetite I am taking in enough calories to not put my body into panic mode. So far, just a couple days since I resumed and I am feeling much better. |
| Brad | posted 20-Jun-2009 2:08am Update: I have been on 37.5mg of Phentermine for 9 days as of tonight. I am officially stopping. I have not lost a single pound, and even worse I discovered that I have been consuming on average around 450 calories a day. I say just discovered because I really haven't noticed/paid attention to the lack of caloric intake due to the appetite suppression from Phen. I was just never hungry so I didn't think anything about it. For those that don't know, a caloric intake of less than 1200 a day does NOT help you lose weight. I was naive a while ago and thought "If my body burns 1400 calories on it's own, a low calorie diet should equal easy weight loss.". I was very, very wrong. I will be going back to what DID show results, even if they weren't as fast as I would have liked and that's the HCL and RFA-1. I don't know if it was from the Phen or what, but I have noticed a NEGATIVE effect on my attitude as well. For the most part I am a very easy going person. I was in a construction zone today and came up to an intersection with the lights flashing red indicating it was a 4-way stop now. I know for a fact it was my turn to go and halfway through the intersection another car decided to turn as well. The driver laid on his horn right as I passed by him, and without even thinking about what I was doing I turned and looked at him REALLY quick and stuck my arm out the window with a middle finger. It sounds funny as I read it, but the quickness that my body/brain reacted and with such an negative reaction was NOT me. It really did feel like I was someone else for a second. Kinda scary. Final conclusion: Phentermine is not for me and I will resume the HCL and RFA-1. Goodnight everyone. |
| wapowell | posted 20-Jun-2009 11:22am @Brad Wow, I fell into a similar set of circumstances recently too. I had the same results. I became wicked irritable, VERY weak, just wanted to sleep all day and all night... it was a bad place to be. I eased up for a few days, upped my calories (just up to a reasonable level, not over the top), and resumed RFA and HCL. So far my body is feeling much better and my mood has improved greatly. I hope you'll get to feeling better soon. Good luck when you resume RFA and HCL. |
| Ann | posted 24-Jun-2009 11:26am Hello just like to know if anybody taking RFA-1 had any side effects. started taking it last week had to stop because my tounge and mouth tasted like a mineral and my tounge looked like had cuts and a white film like and tounge very sore. have lost about 4pds first few days not hungry but after that yes. |
| Anonymous | posted 25-Jun-2009 8:15am Brad or wapowell can one of you explain me more about how much calories we have to consume in order to lose wieght! Am kind of lost |
| Brad | posted 25-Jun-2009 5:19pm @Anonymous It all depends on your sex, age, height and frame. The rule of thumb is to burn more calories than you consume, but that's where it gets tricky. You can't eat 100 calories a day and expect to lose weight because your body will start to think that it is in a starvation state and instead of burning calories it will save them. If done long enough, your body will start to burn actual muscle in search of the nutrients it needs. That can lead to Ketosis, which if not treated can lead to death (granted it would take quite a while for any fatal side effects to happen). The magic number I have found is in the 1,200-1,400 range. The pounds are starting to come again now that I've upped my calorie intake from roughly 450 a day to about 1,300. Just be smart about what you eat and don't starve yourself. Drink nothing but water and make sure that whatever you eat is AT LEAST 50-75% vegetables and/or fruits. |
| Vince | posted 27-Jun-2009 2:37am YO LISTEN just do ephedrine + caffeine + aspirin ECA Don't waste your money on any ingredients/formulas. Caffeine and aspirin are cheap and easily obtainable. |
| Anonymous | posted 27-Jun-2009 11:52am Hi everyone, So similar to many of you, I used Xenadrine RFA-1 back in 2002 with GREAT results. Still havent found anything quite like it. I've doen the ECA stack off and on with some results. Here is a tip for all of you: I used to order the Ephedrine HCL from the interent (Kaizen) brand and then found out you can actually by the stuff at local drug stores like Walgreens. The name is Primetene..it is in tablet form and is sold over the counter. It is used, like Kaizen to treat chest/broach problems, however, I walked in last month to Walgreens and there it was behind the counter WITHOUT a perscription. The only catch is that they have you register you first and last name beacuse you are only allowed to by one pacakage a month. Each tablet contains 12 mg of HCL and comes with like 30 tablets for $10. Hope that helps, it elimnates the shipping etc fromt he interent. Brad-Im alos from Nor Cal and am going to see a "doc" next week, sounds smilar to your experience. Are you inthe Bay Area? |
| Anonymous | posted 28-Jun-2009 6:34pm @Vince That was already discussed last year on this forum. Look back to around June-October. @Anonymous True, you can get it through the Primatene Tablets, but it is MUCH more expensive than ordering online. 60 tablets of 8mg Kaizen can be had for $6.99. 24 tablets of Primatene is generally $5.00. Not to mention if you order the Kaizen in bulk (1,200 tabs). |
| Anonymous | posted 28-Jun-2009 8:33pm Yeah that's true, I just found it to be easier than ordering it and I was able to get 60 12.5 mg tablets for about $11 at Walgreens. So with shipping and all that in comparison to the 8mg tablets it balances out, unless you want to buy in bulk as you mentioned. |
| Anonymous | posted 29-Jun-2009 5:59pm been on RFA-1 for two days now and finding it harder to breathe than usual and a bit nervous should i stop straight away or let my body get used to it?? |
| dreamangel | posted 30-Jun-2009 4:07am If you can't breathe please stop |
| Anonymous-wv | posted 3-Jul-2009 10:20pm where can I get the rfa-1? does it contain ephedra? |
| dreamangel | posted 4-Jul-2009 2:21am I've been taking Zenalean for 3 weeks and gained weight. I have been doing tae bo and eating better. I do not recomend it at all. I wasted my money. :( |
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