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No Flour, No Sugar Diet






Summary


Dr. Gott's No Flour, No Sugar Diet presents a simple, straight-forward way to lose weight and keep it off for a lifetime. All you need do is eliminate flour and sugar from your diet.


 

Description


This diet book contains common-sense techniques on how to eat better and achieve a healthier lifestyle. It gets you to focus on foods that are nutritional and satisfying. Thus, you can both lose weight and become healthier in the process.

You can eat brown rice, lean meats, low-fat dairy products, fruits and vegetables. But, you have to stop eating foods like bagels, pasta, bread, cereal, white rice, cookies, sweets, and cakes.

Many excellent recipes are included in the book with have no flour and sugar, yet taste delicious.

The approach is to keep things simple by just eliminating flour and sugar, the two primary food ingredients that are causing the obesity problem in America. Our culture has become addicted to sweets. This book helps you break the addiction and get on track for eating healthier while losing that extra weight.


History


Dr. Gott is a medical columnist published in over 350 newspaper daily. He is a practicing physician with a general practice in Connecticut. He's also the director of medicine at Hotchkiss School (a prep-school).


Criticism


Giving up bread and sweets may simply be too hard for some people. Sugar is in a great majority of products sold today. While the diet sounds simple, implementing it and sticking to it is quiet a challenge.




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Related Diets:   Cambridge Diet   Cabbage Soup Diet   No-S Diet   South Beach Diet   Fat Smash Diet  


  31-Aug-2006 11:02am created by bill

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Bear
posted 4-Mar-2010 6:49pm

Hey all,

I'm so tired I can scarcely put sentences together but I want to wish everyone a good night. I hope you feel better soon, Hilda. And Connie, you will definitely be fully on the path again soon, no doubt. Tammy, I like that quote.

I basically stand in awe of what you ladies carry in life: families, children, in-laws, etc. Pretty amazing, and yet you also make this important commitment to get healthier and feel better.

I personally have felt better since I started taking a bunch of vitamins and getting regular exercise. I started them at the same time so I can't tell which is responsible. I think it's important to take calcium, D, all the B vits, C, and fish oil or omega 3s, in addition to a multi.

night all.
Hilda
posted 4-Mar-2010 7:11pm

Right now I don't feel like getting out to go anywhere. I read to eat garlic and onions, so I fixed a Macaroni Grill Garlic and Herb pasta box meal I found in the cabinet. It was pretty strong seasoning. I hope it helps.
TammyGirl
posted 4-Mar-2010 7:57pm


Clean 15 - Lowest in Pesticides (Best is #1 and then it goes on from there).

1. Onion
2. Avocado
3. Sweet Corn
4. Pineapple
5. Mango
6. Asparagus
7. Sweet Peas
8. Kiwi
9. Cabbage
10. Eggplant
11. Papaya
12. Watermelon
13. Broccoli
14. Tomato
15. Sweet Potato



TammyGirl
posted 4-Mar-2010 8:02pm

Bronwyn, I can relate to your starting weight being too high. I can't believe I ever let myself get back over 200 -- when I had made it down to 165 a few years ago. When I got to the 190's you would have thought that would have scared me straight. But, NO, I had to get over that darn 200 again. So I can relate to just having to lose 10 pounds to feel like that is your true starting weight. But like my husband says, "it is what it is".

We'll do it. smile

~Tammy
TammyGirl
posted 4-Mar-2010 8:03pm

Hilda, sorry to hear you have bronchitis - hope you feel better soon..sending well wishes. ~Tammy

Connie
posted 4-Mar-2010 9:09pm

Well, I just finished watching The Bitter Truth video. It is unbelievable. I am so going to read the label of everything even more than I do right now. So, a calorie is not a calorie. Tammy, when I read your statement that you can't believe you let yourself get over 200 pounds, I think you may not have been able to avoid it if you were eating the typical american diet. You too Bronwyn. I am so thankful I never drank pop or much juice. My weight issues could have been so much worse. Scary stuff. Hugely interesting too. I understood it enough to know I'll be able to pester my friends and family on a whole new level! But while I watched it I wished I could retain more of it. Lot's to think about there.

I'm off to bed in a minute. Sweet dreams all.
Connie
posted 4-Mar-2010 9:28pm

I am having a hard time shutting my brain off. Doesn't the video seem like another piece of the puzzle? I remember thinking why..why..why..was I always gaining weight even though I tried not too? And why was I still hungry after I ate and why did I feel so crappy when I was consuming more than enough calories? NFNS is the simple view of a very complex process. I again am so thankful I found this way of eating and am able to continue learning from this site. I'm pumped. I'm probably going to be the most annoying person to be around for awhile. I feel like we need to get the word out and try to save our species from being poisoned to death.
Bronwyn
posted 4-Mar-2010 11:48pm

Connie in all truth I did not eat the standard American diet.....in the fact that I don't eat any processed foods, I don't drink pop or juice, but, I certainly did over eat and especially chocolate and sugar things. When I would get going on that stuff it was like I just couldn't stop.....couldn't ever feel I had enough.

Tammy I got down to 165 about 4 years ago. I wasn't thin enough but I felt so much better and I could actually buy clothes I kind of liked. I couldn't believe that I put it all back on....so depressing!

The problem with some stretch in your pants. All of my pants have like 2 or 3% spandex in them. It is ridiculous how easy it is to gain 10 to 12 lbs. and be able to wear the pants pretty much the same way. I need to get back down to 165 to get into my clothes that have no spandex in them....spandex is too forgiving.
Debbie M.
posted 5-Mar-2010 8:07am

I remember being 130 pounds when I was 21 and gaining enough weight to make my pants tight. My Boss told me to keep wearing the same clothes and lose the weight to stay in that same size. Obviously I didnt take her advise. I wish I had. Of course she is still beautifully thin to this day.

My daughter is getting ready to go to Washington DC with her class. Just one more month! She is so excited! There has been a brightly designed T-shirt that they are all goin to buy ($15) and wear during their site seeing so they can easily be identified. What a nice souvenir.
Debbie M.
posted 5-Mar-2010 8:12am

Connie, If someone has your car, maybe you should hand them the list and require they only come back if they have your groceries. hehe
Debbie M.
posted 5-Mar-2010 8:17am

K10, The Duggars on TV make their own detergent. The recipe is on the internet. My friend with 6 kids does as well. They like it just fine and it is so cheap to make. I've had good intentions of doing it but havent yet. She gave me some to try and its just fine. No nice smell to your clothes but there is a way to add it with oils or something. A favorite dryer sheet could add a nice scent. But those are expensive too. I usually rip mine in half and use them several times.
Bear
posted 5-Mar-2010 8:46am


Connie, I am currently the most obnoxious person in my household after watching
the fructose lecture... wink

It was really eye opening... and what I take away from it - since I cannot retain all those biochemical reactions - is that my liver has to work overtime if I have too much fructose. That damages the organ and then also the heart, veins, cholesterol level, etc.

And like Bronwyn just said, I also felt (very recently) that I could never get enough when eating sweet things. That really doesn't feel good.
Debbie M.
posted 5-Mar-2010 9:11am

Me too Bear woman.
Connie
posted 5-Mar-2010 9:24am

Morning all. Off to work today. I'll check in later.
K10
posted 5-Mar-2010 10:16am

I am going to watch the video today.

I have a fatty liver from being overweight.

If sugar can be turned into fat, I am sure part of the reason for my fatty liver is all the Pepsi I have drank not to mention the fat I have consumed.

Since I have been eating NFNS this week my stomach has been bothering me again. I absolutely hate how this happens. Hopefully by next week I will be feeling better. I have been eating more produce and grains, so I know that is the problem.

I have thrown away the jam that had sugar and high fructose corn syrup in it, the BBQ sauce as well.

Debbie: The recipe on the Duggar site is the same or similar to the one I made. I used a food processor and it was much easier to do. I will have to determine how I like it. I think it will be find. Then I read that the soap that you had is bad for you. We just can't win.

Good day ladies.
K10
posted 5-Mar-2010 10:17am

***I should have said I think it will be fine.
Dana
posted 5-Mar-2010 10:38am

Hi All. Along the lines of the quote TammyGirl sent out, here's one I like: "If it is to be, it's up to me."

Wish I would have thought of that when I decided to have a bowl of popcorn (popped in oil and topped with butter) and a glass of wine last night....
Debbie M.
posted 5-Mar-2010 11:45am

Dana, you are a girl after my own heart. I love Popcorn (and wine). I don't do the butter anymore though. No telling whats in microwave popcorn. They say Cocoanut oil is like olive oil in the sence that its a "good for you" oil. Try it. It got a bad rap in the 80's but that was all propaganda I've read.
TammyGirl
posted 5-Mar-2010 1:01pm

I am so proud of myself – I am at work right now and boss got us lunch today, pizzas. I had three pieces, but only ate the toppings. I threw the crusts away! And I ate just the veggie toppings – ate no meat either.

Hope everyone is having a great Friday!
~Tammy

Bear
posted 5-Mar-2010 1:06pm

Good for you K10, I bet you can reverse much of that.

I don't know if I can go entirely without sweet items... meaning no sugar added dried fruit or the *occasional* sugar-free ice cream. I just don't know that I can maintain NFNS without these "loopholes." And I want to maintain NFNS long term.

This morning I had maybe 7-8 prunes with my plain yogurt. Sounds weird but it was quite good. Then I read that prunes are mostly glucose, not fructose. smile

At the gym I did 4 miles, 2.9 of which were running non-stop. That's a new record for me.

Good day all.
Bronwyn
posted 5-Mar-2010 1:39pm

WooHoo....10 Celsius and down MINUS 1.4 lbs......super day!!!!

Bear, I have osteoporosis in my spine and my hips....it really scares me. I don't really have any symptoms particularly yet....like hunchback and so forth but, I am concerned for the future and scared to death of falling and breaking something. Anyways, guess what there is research that shows eating 10 prunes a day is helpful in treating osteoporosis.....not mainstream health advise. I need to start to eat prunes. I find 2 or 3 is all I can handle and with my counting points I hate to eat 10 and add up the points. Actually the literature....Susan Brown authour,,,,says to not even count the calories or to worry about them. I may try it this week and see if it stops my weight loss. So after this long winded story, what i am saying is you just may be doing your body good with the prunes smile I wouldn't stray too far from the washroom with having eaten 7 however smile

Debbie the coconut oil that you get in prepacked goods is still vile stuff.....totally avoid it. If you use coconut oil it has to be organic and cold pressed.....the expensive stuff not the cheap hydrogenated stuff they use in prepacked foods.

K10 how do you know you have a fatty liver,,,,,I would like to know that. Is it reversable? Is shown through blood work?
Bronwyn
posted 5-Mar-2010 1:56pm

I just called this number.....maybe I will be in a study!!!!

Aside from this, there are also preliminary data reporting that prunes restored lost bone in animal models of osteoporosis, and improved biomarkers linked to bone formation in postmenopausal women..

They are now preparing a large human trial to confirm this medicinal benefit of eating prunes. Wanna take part in the trial? You get to eat either 9-10 pieces of prunes daily, or a comparable amount of apples. If you are two to 10 years postmenopausal and wish to learn more about participation in Arjmandi’s dried plum study, call (800) 951-4490 for more info.
Bronwyn
posted 5-Mar-2010 1:58pm

Bear you will be sorry you mentioned prunes but here goes more info:

Q. Wouldn’t eating 9-10 prunes a day cause diarrhea and/or gas?

A. As we well know, prunes have a laxative effect. The studies using 9-10 prunes a day, however, found that if people introduce the prunes slowly, taking a few to start and adding more over time, they do not experience excessively loose stools. Also, at the Center for Better Bones we find that soaking or lightly cooking the prunes also helps improve their digestibility, as does eating them warmed a bit, if necessary. Another tip is to spread your prunes out over at least 2 meals. Incidentally, prunes make a tasty dessert or sweet addition to hot cereal.

Q. Will eating all these prunes each day cause me to gain weight?

A. As it appears, consuming prunes did not cause weight gain and, in fact, prune researcher, Dr. Bahram Arjmandi specifically addresses this question, suggesting that prunes are so satisfying that they can actually aid in weight control. Also, recent work at the San Diego State University found snacking on prunes twice a day curbed the appetite while improving blood lipids, which actually aids weight management.

K10
posted 5-Mar-2010 2:05pm

Bronwyn: Quite a few years ago I had a physical and they did the typical bloodwork. Cholesterol etc. My liver enzymes were off and I was told that I had a fatty liver. Recently I had blood work again and an abdominal ultrasound and it was confirmed again. It is reversable. I joked with the doctor the first time, that it was my liver making me fat, not me making my liver fat. She laughed. I am the typical apple shape waiting for a heart attack to happen, as far as body shape goes. Fortunately my cholesterol isn't horrible yet. Losing weight will definitely help me. Fatty liver can lead to scirrosis of the liver.
Bronwyn
posted 5-Mar-2010 2:12pm

K10, thanks for the info. Next time I have a physical I will ask if that has been checked in previous blood tests.

Dana
posted 5-Mar-2010 2:21pm

Yes, I'm addicted to popcorn. I've cut it down to just one or two nights a week and to a much smaller portion than the big bowl I used to sit down with. And I did give up nasty microwave versions a long time ago to pop my own in peanut oil. Next time I make it I'm going to think of you, Debbie. If you can break the butter habit, so can I -- though reluctantly, cuz it's just so darn good...
Debbie M.
posted 5-Mar-2010 2:25pm

K10, Avoid HFCS like the plague. Your liver is doing just what they were saying it does on HFCS. Guess what soda has in it? Yep, You guessed it. HFCS But we all know that now.
Bear
posted 5-Mar-2010 4:12pm


Bronwyn, thank you! Great info. I did read briefly and saw that
prunes help with bone density - that's good, my grandmother had osteoporosis.
And I don't tend to have any problem with a lot of fiber, though I did stew
these prunes before I ate them. Congrats on your weight loss!!!

Dana, popcorn doesn't seem so bad to be addicted to, at least to me.
Bronwyn
posted 5-Mar-2010 4:21pm

ha, ha, ha smile

Floor caves under Weight Watchers weigh-in
No one injured — but dieters might have extra motivation to shed poundsmsnbc.com

updated 2:01 p.m. MT, Fri., Jan. 15, 2010
As a Weight Watchers group gathered for a routine weigh-in, the dieters got an idea of how far they still had to go: The floor underneath them collapsed, a Swedish newspaper reports.

"We suddenly heard a huge thud; we almost thought it was an earthquake and everything flew up in the air," one of about 20 group members said to the Smalandsposten newspaper. "The floor collapsed in one corner of the room and along the walls."

After the initial collapse on Wednesday evening, the floor started to cave in other parts of the room, and the stench of sewage crept into the clinic, which is in Vaxjo, a city in south central Sweden. The group is looking for an alternate location for future meetings, Weight Watchers consultant Therese Levin told the Swedish paper.

Debbie M.
posted 5-Mar-2010 5:00pm

HAHAHAHHA, thanks for sharing
Hilda
posted 5-Mar-2010 5:36pm

I was eating a whole bag of microwave popcorn that had over 500 calories in the whole bag. Now I am back to the 1/4 cup popped with no oil in the brown paper lunch bag.
Connie
posted 5-Mar-2010 8:15pm

Evening ladies. Long day at work and as usual my back is achy. Oh well, all my older friends say it's part of getting older. This week my orthotics will be in and I hope over time they will help. So I have been obsessing on HFCS and sugar all day. I am so recommitted it's scary! I got home late and dinner was terrible, although NFNS, just not balanced. I had a great NFNS lunch so good enough. I need to make a major menu and grocery list. Tonight I feel like I have so many things to do.

Lucky me, I love prunes. I will get some for my cereal. Bear, good job on the running, brings back memories! I would settle for a lovely walk and feel like a conqueror! My friend is insisting on taking me to the Y. Oh heavens! That is going to be something. I have zero muscle tone...zero. I'll be a babe in the woods, but I'll probably cave in at some point and go with her. I'm thinking swimming laps would be fine. I refuse to go and end up too sore to move after. Although no matter what I do I'll surely be sore after.

Debbie M.
posted 5-Mar-2010 10:39pm

Connie, I was thinking maybe some exercises to strengthen just your natrual girdle might help your back. If your stomach muschles are strong then maybe some of your back pain would go away. Ask one of the trainers there at the Y what they think you should do. They may have some good recommendations for you.
K10
posted 6-Mar-2010 3:06am

My family went out to Red Lobster for dinner. My bro-in-law paid. Woo hoo!!!! I will tell you the positives though. Water with lemon, I ate the lobster tail, but not the steak. I brought the steak home. That is the most positive food info I can give you. It was good and I enjoyed myself.

Have a good weekend ladies.

Bronwyn
posted 6-Mar-2010 5:18am

Debbie I always think about the stupid melatonin in the middle of the night when I am not sleeping.......okay I need to go to the store and get somefrown
Bear
posted 6-Mar-2010 10:08am


Bronwyn, you are already losing weight. You will lose even more once you
get your sleeping on track. Most importantly, it will be easier and
you will feel so much better. I know you know this, I'm just cheering you on.

Connie, I agree with Debbie. There are plenty of very nice, helpful people at the
Y. I would think the soreness would fade after the first or second time you go.
Is this something you can do regularly?

Morning all. I didn't sleep too well b/c I had a quarter glass of wine last night.
I rarely drink, but when I do, it affects me. Not sure what I'll eat today...
there are a lot of good NFNS food in the house.

Connie
posted 6-Mar-2010 10:17am

Morning. I took the plunge and weighed in this morning, 151.2. Not good, not horrible either. I really need to keep an eye on the scales. It works for me by keeping me accountable. NO MORE SLIPPING AND SLIDING! That just does not work at all. You can't slip once a day, or once every other day and expect results. It just doesn't work. And thanks to the video we all now why. So enough with the "that looks good, a little bit won't hurt." There is no such thing as that for me. I gain weight at the drop of a hat when the wrong foods are involved. That is a fact. All the rationalizing in the world will not change it. So, I'm going to act like a responsible accountable adult and do what needs to be done. I feel really good about it too. When I strayed I was plagued with negative feelings. I had to "grow up" to quit smoking and I need to do it again now. No one can do this for me, I have to do it myself. Even while my schedule seems out of control. No more excuses.

Off to Memphis today for some shopping with my friend. She's spending, not me. I spent my extra cash on ebay. What funsmile
Hilda
posted 6-Mar-2010 1:31pm

Connie- Is there a Home Goods in Memphis? I love that store.
Bronwyn
posted 6-Mar-2010 2:32pm

Connie our fearless leader is BACK! No excuses that needs to be all of our motto for success!!! I too have had to come to the realization that I gain weight "at the drop of a hat".....not more hat dropping. I lose weight like molasses running up hill in January.....not good at allsmile
Bronwyn
posted 6-Mar-2010 2:57pm

Hey Connie what did you get on EBAY?
Bear
posted 6-Mar-2010 4:17pm


Yea, Connie!!

Yea, everyone else!
I'm liking the extra motivated atmosphere around here, I think it's helping.

Even though I'm tired, I got some things done and had some energy today.
I think it's because all I've eaten is produce, protein and no starches.
I'm not as strict as some on my fats, meaning I do eat home-made mayo,
red meat and eggs on an occasional basis. I do not feel deprived.

Good evening all.
Anonymous
posted 6-Mar-2010 4:25pm

Hello all, Everything is good on my home front. Just thoguht I'd let you all know. smile
Hilda
posted 6-Mar-2010 5:43pm

Weighed in at 175 today. Hooray for steamed vegetables!
Bronwyn
posted 6-Mar-2010 5:59pm

Thanks for the update....?????Anonymous smile

Way to go Hilda..........

Bear....fat was vilified in the 80's and 90's.....good fat is sustaining and healthy.....just make good choices in where your fat comes from. That is one problem with WW is that things that have fat in them really puts the points through the roof.....avocado, nuts and so forth.....I have to eat them sparingly as they are very caloric, but I still work them in because they are so good for us. I don't believe in fat free products, in throwing out the yolks or in eating "Crap" just because it is low fat and thus low points. I am soaking nuts, Dr. OZ recommends that and so do many other health conscious experts. I am then going to dehydrate them....oh my gosh they are so fabulous done that way. I can't eat many but I sure do enjoy the ones I do eat.
TammyGirl
posted 6-Mar-2010 7:02pm

Hi all, I am going to watch the Bitter Truth video tonight. Going to snuggle up with my MacBook in bed and watch it.

I'll catch up with all tomorrow morning.

~Tammy smile

Connie
posted 6-Mar-2010 8:11pm

"I am invincible! Or some such thing. Went to lunch, had no choice, at Roadhouse. I did not cave in. I had some peanuts will friend had a blooming onion. I had a sweet potato and greens beans while friend had steak, baked potatoes and mixed veggies. I did have some butter and sour cream on my potato and was totally satisfied...full really. Unsweetened inced tea and I had a hearty lunch without slipping and sliding. I'm a good girl, I am.

On ebay I have bought some things for little one. Currently we are ate up with care bears so I have ordered a ball, bag, refrig magnets and towels in that theme. Also a wooden cradle for her doll. Today we went to some Goodwills and I bought a little heart shaped wood table that she can sit by her chair and put her sippy cup on it. I'm going to paint it, it's about 8 inches high. The weather here today was gorgeous and I really wished her ball had arrived since we played outside for awhile. I also bought the yarn I needed for her blanket. Busy day.

Hilda, I don't know if we have that store. I'm not much of a shopper. We did got to Hobby Lobby and I was lusting all over that store! Congrats on your weigh in. I do love those steamed veggies. I still haven't got my menu/list together. Darn it. I wanted to have that done today. I guess I'll hit it in the morning because my brain is a bit fried from shopping and playing with little one. Seriously, that's work.

Tammmy, enjoy the video. Bear, good job on the home made mayo. Sounds like your diet is wonderful. Bronwyn, I love your "lose weight" analogy. For some reason I have always thought once you got going into weight lose you would be unstoppable. Your enormous brain is calling the shots. Go all of us!
Bear
posted 6-Mar-2010 8:41pm


Go, Hilda, Go!

What steamed veggies do you get?
Hilda
posted 6-Mar-2010 8:50pm

Asparagus, and Green Giant Garden Vegetable Medley are my favorites. I was reading on that Dr. Oz website that you should eat one pound of raw and one pound of steamed vegetables, plus 4 fruits a day.
Bear
posted 6-Mar-2010 9:25pm


Wow, I wonder what that amount looks like.

If I could eat that much, I doubt I could accomodate anything else.
Connie
posted 7-Mar-2010 9:27am

Morning. I'm settling in to do my menu and grocery list. It's the first thing on my list for the day. One pound of raw veggies? That must be a salad...I need to figure out how big a one lb salad is. Hmmm. Sounds like a good idea.
Anonymous
posted 7-Mar-2010 10:10am

I watched the "Bitter Truth" video last night. It was really good and I think I may watch again with my husband and son. It was, however, very scientific. I don't think I would pass a test on all the scientific data that was thrown at me last night. In a way I wish it was spoken more in a lay man's term. But, all in all, it was really an eye opener. But I must say I was never one to drink sodas ... regular or diet. So I can't say that being over 200 pounds was caused by soda. My food of choice has always been the high carbohydrates/sugar items like donuts, pastries, cookies, muffins, etc. Of course all of that gets stored as fat.

I can't believe I have logged everything I have eaten in My Fitness Pal diary for a full week. I never even did that when I was on WW.

I am getting ready to do a Walk Away the Pounds 1-Mile video now.

Hope all is well with everyone. ~Tammy

TammyGirl
posted 7-Mar-2010 10:12am

That last post by Anonymous was me. Tammy Girl

smile

I guess when I turned off my computer last night it erased my Name -- usually that auto fills...when my computer is just asleep. LOL

TammyGirl
posted 7-Mar-2010 11:01am

Connie, yes, I agree, we will all become "disciples" of the No Flour No Sugar way of eating.

Connie
posted 7-Mar-2010 11:12am

I forgot to mention, 150.8 this morning.
TammyGirl
posted 7-Mar-2010 11:23am

I am getting caught up on the previous posts. Just to let you know, that was NOT me who did the Anonymous post on 6-Mar-2010 4:25pm

LOL
TammyGirl
posted 7-Mar-2010 11:26am

Bronwyn, I never heard of soaking nuts. Which ones did you soak that were so awesome? /Tammy

Bear
posted 7-Mar-2010 11:27am


I don't even really believe this, but an online source about Dr. Oz
mentions a study of people who were put on a "zoo diet" - eating 11 pounds
of produce and nuts per day for 10 days - and lost 10 pounds. And inches.
There is no way I could eat that much volume, but it does motivate me to
eat more produce.

The site also mentioned that getting between 1200mg and 1 gram of calcium
can double fat excretion. (sorry, gross). Just make sure to get enough magnesium.

congrats, Connie!
Bronwyn
posted 7-Mar-2010 6:20pm

Tammy....benefits of soaking....

The main reason soaking nuts and seeds is so important is because they contain enzyme inhibitors.

The purpose of these enzyme inhibitors is to protect the nut or seed until it has what it needs for growing.

Nature allowed the inhibitors and toxic substances to be easily removed when the conditions (enough rain and sun) were met.

In nature, when it rains the nut gets enough moisture so it can germinate and produce a plant. The plant then continues to grow with the sunlight.

By soaking nuts and seeds, you release these toxic enzyme inhibitors AND increase the life and vitality contained within them!

Almonds
The Benefits of Soaking Nuts and Seeds

* Enzyme inhibitors get neutralized.

* The amount of vitamins your body can absorb increases.

* Gluten breaks down so digestion is much easier.

* Phytic acid, which inhibits the absorption of vital minerals, is reduced.

Soaking times vary with the nut. Generally the more dense the nut, the longer the soaking time. Ideally, soaking should be done at room temperature.

Bronwyn
posted 7-Mar-2010 6:25pm

Ber, can you give me anymore details about the zoo diet. I tried to view the video and it said that the video I wanted can't be viewed from the country I am in.....please....we are on the same continent. I have that happen occasionally with video's.....how do they know what country I am in smile

I would consider doing that for 10 days just get things moving again....I feel a stall coming on and I leave in one month to go to my daughter's graduation.
Bronwyn
posted 7-Mar-2010 6:26pm

hmmmmm......Ber would in fact be BEAR smile
Bronwyn
posted 7-Mar-2010 6:48pm

Tammy.....I also then dehydrate the nuts and they are spectacular!
Connie
posted 7-Mar-2010 7:23pm

I bought some walnuts and soaked them awhile back. They tasted bitter so I never did it again. Maybe in a salad? Another gorgeous day outside, I went out back with my husband and pulled a large broken branch out of a tree. It hit me on the head and man, oh man, did that hurt! Nothing major, but I have had a small headache ever since. Mostly it just made me mad. I had to work to make it my husbands fault, but I managed to do that so I'm being a bum for the rest of the day and he's being pretty nice. I know I'm acting like a stinker, but that darn branch hurt! We did manage to get the black raspberry plants in so I guess my gardening has begun. Geez, I'm such a newbie, everyone pray for the things I plant. They are going to need it!
Connie
posted 7-Mar-2010 8:43pm

My husband asked for some ice cream earlier and I thought maybe I deserved some sugar free chocolate so I made a quick run to the grocery store. I didn't buy any chocolate, I bought some prunes instead. I ate 7 or 8, almost 200 calories. Of course I love prunes and if I'm not careful I can over eat them easily. They were a better decision than the chocolate so I am happy about that. And luckily ice cream is not a problem for me. I bought the Bryer's brand, fewer ingredients.
Bear
posted 7-Mar-2010 9:28pm


Connie, you're lucky, ice cream is a problem for me.
Yea, prunes.

Bronwyn, I don't know anything about the zoo diet or the video, sorry.
All I did was google Dr. Oz and vegetables and an article came up.
Bronwyn
posted 8-Mar-2010 1:48am



Being healthy according to Dr. Mehmet Oz is for one to be diet rich with anti-oxidants. At the same time, it is very important to consume and prefer natural healthy foods than supplements. In summary of super foods by Dr. Oz are raw vegetables and fruits. Same types of fresh foods are in the top of his best list.

Dr. Mehment Oz is one of the popular cardio surgeons which is primarily centered on the proper healthy diet that will help one healthy at the same time lose weight. In order for a person to be healthy and to lose weight, below are the 5 best super foods by Dr. Oz which are actually rich in anti-oxidants.

1. Tomatoes
2. Garlic
3. Broccoli
4. Grapes
5. Acai Berry

The fifth on the super foods by Dr. Oz is the Acai berry which is physically described as a dark colored form of berry which in natural form is rich not only with anti-oxidants but also with vitamins and minerals. The Acai berry is double or twice more filled with anti-oxidants than blueberries. The other fruits in the berry family which is also rich in anti-oxidants are as follows:

1. Raspberries
2. Strawberries
3. Blueberries

The said fruits together with Acai berry are also great and fully packed with vitamins E, C, B, and A. Basically, the said super foods by Dr. Oz can fight not only diseases but can also strengthen the immune system.

Grapes must be eaten fresh and the dark colored ones are best preferred. Broccoli is the best choice for vegetables because of its calcium and rich in vitamin C potential. One of the super foods by Dr. Oz is garlic which popular as an additional spice for its fragrant feature is rich in zinc. Garlic can lower the levels of cholesterol and blood pressure. Tomatoes are popular for the lycopene which fights cancer and also rich in vitamin C.
Connie
posted 8-Mar-2010 10:14am

Morning all. 150.8 this morning. Had a terrible night last night...so sleepy today. I'm going to get my orthotics and then babysitting.
Bear
posted 8-Mar-2010 1:50pm


Hope you feel better soon, Connie.

Bronwyn, I'm loving all the produce information. I too have been reading up on antioxidants and getting a little nutty about them... I think I will get all my nutrients and be less fatigued if I increase my intake of these items. Smoothies and soups are a fast and easy way for me to get a ton of nutrients, and, to me, they tend to be more appealing than eating an apple, say, or a pepper.

The thing about eating this way, and by including things like hummus, bean dips, soy cheese, almond milk (unsweetened!), fish and eggs... is that I do not even have room for empty calories.

That said, I had a massive craving for chocolate last night and almost caved. Did not cave, but still craving chocolate today, ugh.
TammyGirl
posted 8-Mar-2010 2:21pm

Anybody ever hear of LäraBars?

My brother told me about them...he is a raw foodist. I found them at Trader Joe's. I had the Peanut Butter Cookie one. It was awesome. I highly recommend.

LäraBar is a delicious blend of unsweetened fruits, nuts, and spices — energy in its purest form. The vitamins, minerals, fiber, protein, good carbohydrates and healthy fats are derived exclusively from whole, raw food. Each flavor contains no more than 2 to 6 ingredients--so it's pure and simple, just as nature intended.

~Tammy smile


Bronwyn
posted 8-Mar-2010 2:50pm

Tammy I tried a Lara bar two or three years ago. I thought hey I can make that and started to make my own bars and, in all modesty and humility, I like mine better smile I actually haven't made them for a while now, they are very high in natural sugars.

Bear, I too get a little "nutty" and want to go gung hosmile If you want my recipe for a lara bar knock off I can send it to you.....I think it is a good substitute for chocolate. If you aren't a chocoholic you could probably have a square or two of 85% cocoa bar......like a lindt. That would be a reasonable way to deal with that desire for chocolate......as long as chocolate isn't a trigger. Dr. Gott allows chocolate when you are in maintenance and it doesn't sound like you have weight issues.

Connie I was up all night as well.....we should have been chatting. BTW, I didn't see the show but I saw an ad for a Dr. Oz program on night eaters/sleep eaters.
TammyGirl
posted 8-Mar-2010 3:40pm

Bronwyn, thanks for the information on soaking nuts.

My brother got a Vita-Mixer refurbished at around a cost of $400 and supposedly it mixes at a very high speed. It’s unbelievable the things he can make. It’s the item to have if you are a raw foodist. He actually makes his own walnut milk. He puts raw walnuts in the mixer and in seconds he has milk.

Connie
posted 8-Mar-2010 7:23pm

Something weird happened last night. When I went to bed I had to run to the bathroom vomiting. It lasted until I was empty and all I could think about was Natashia Richardson! I stayed awake for an hour and didn't get confused or disoriented, so I went to sleep. It was kind of scary. I was happy to wake up this morning! I still have a bit of a headache, could be from lack of sleep since I woke up all night long. Tonight my daughter wanted me to go to Gma's house for pie. As if! I am even more committed to NFNS. I told my daughter I want a Vita Mixer for Christmas. I haven't used my mixer more than 3 times.
Bear
posted 8-Mar-2010 8:34pm


That is scary, Connie, yikes. I'm glad you're feeling better and good
for you resisting pie. That is not easy!

And Bronwyn, for me, dark chocolate is not a trigger, but milk is.

Tammy, I've had a Larabar before, I think once. I'd like to try more.

Today I've done really well, better than usual. Lots of produce,
I feel full.

TammyGirl
posted 8-Mar-2010 8:42pm

Connie, OH MY GOSH!!!! You are scaring me. Hit on the head and vomiting - that is not good. And you still have a headache. I don't know. I would seriously call your primary care physician ASAP or make an appointment to go see him/her.

Do you have a bump on your head? Does it feel sore? Supposedly what I thought, if you "feel" a bump that is a good thing.

Call you doctor. Report back to us.

Love, ~Tammy

Bear
posted 8-Mar-2010 9:26pm


Yeah, actually, I second that Tammy. That is the best advice.
Connie
posted 8-Mar-2010 9:26pm

You know what...I think I'm fine. I looked up "head injury" last night and I only had one symptom...and that's a maybe. I had just taken my nightly vitamin and HRT and thought maybe it went down wrong. If I still have a headache tomorrow I'll call someone or something. Today I had no symptoms other than headache.

Tonight for dinner I had a bowl of puffed rice with cut up prunes. I didn't add any sweetener of any kind. It was fine. I think I'm done with all sweeteners, truvia included.

I looked up Dr Oz's "night eater" show. I missed it but there was some info I read. If they ever have it on a rerun and any of you hear about it, please let me know. I would love to watch it. My night eating is pretty much under control, but it is a hard topic to discuss. It seems to be either more prevalent than before and/or people are just now opening up about it. I wonder how much our diet affects a condition like that. Diet seems to affect everything.

Tonight a book and kitties curled up all around me. Sweet dreams all.
Debbie M.
posted 8-Mar-2010 10:03pm

That was me. Anonymous post on 6-Mar-2010 4:25pm smile
Connie
posted 8-Mar-2010 10:07pm

Debbie, I wondered what you have been up to! How are you doing?
Debbie M.
posted 8-Mar-2010 10:09pm

Connie, I'm glad you're feeling better.
Bronwyn
posted 9-Mar-2010 1:55am

Connie it is so scary when strange things happen.....it seems like there are so many unusual and unknown things as possibilities. I guess that is why I don't really care for the show, "House"......way too scary! Hope the headache is gone.

Debbie....you info is too brief....how are you????

I grew up in a home with a Vit-A-Mix, wheat grinder and big heavy duty bread mixer (and that was a really long time ago). I as well have had all of those things since I married 30 years ago. I love good cooking appliances. In fact I just had my big green smoothie to catch up on my greens for the day....yummy!

I would like to watch teh sugar video in a simplified version as well.....there is no way I will get my family to watch something so long.
Connie
posted 9-Mar-2010 8:27am

Morning. 149.8 this morning.

It is sad around here though. Last night my daughter went to stay with unmarried pregnant friend. She came down with a "bug" and was vomiting and diarrhea and her mom is out of town. They ended up at the hospital and they did a c section on her. The baby boy didn't make it. The placenta had detached at some point during her vomiting. It is so very sad. He weighed 8 1/2 lbs. Her due date was this week. I just don't know what I can do for this poor girl. My daughter kept me posted with calls during the night and the poor girl is devastated. I think today is going to be bleak...it's raining and the skies are grey.
TammyGirl
posted 9-Mar-2010 10:02am

Connie, you have my deepest sympathy, you and your daughter. That is such a very sad story. I wish mom the best. She'll be in my prayers.

(((HUGS)))
Anonymous
posted 9-Mar-2010 11:11am

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K10
posted 9-Mar-2010 11:12am

Connie: I am so sorry about the baby. Thank God your daughter was there or maybe her friend would have died too. She may have been vomiting because of what was happening in her body??? What a shame. Our thoughts and prayers are with her and all involved too.
Connie
posted 9-Mar-2010 12:30pm

Thanks for all the kind words. I have been so upset over this...I very easily get "too" depressed when it comes to sad things. I had my daughter go the gift hop and get her some pink roses, her favorite. She is going to be in the hospital for 3 days and then I can do some cooking for the family. The mom is now at the hospital. I need to try and put it out of my mind for awhile.

I'm taking MIL to doc today. It's 48 miles away! Should be interesting. My husband switched car with me this morning so I am without my Garmin. I map quested the route...but I get lost easier than anyone you've ever met! It is going to be a long afternoon. I will check in later.

And Debbie, check in...why are you being so quiet? It worries me.
Bronwyn
posted 9-Mar-2010 2:06pm

Connie that is so surprising to hear that the baby didn't make it. He was totally developed at 8.5 lbs. You hear of babies who weren't nourished by the placenta for long periods of time due to complications and they are born small but alive. I can't imagine how hard this is for everyone involved.

Debbie when you are quiet there is usually a reason. Talk to us!
Hilda
posted 9-Mar-2010 6:46pm

Connie, Your daughter's friend is in my prayers.
Connie
posted 9-Mar-2010 7:35pm

Back from Doc's. And I didn't get lost. My daughter was here briefly when I got home. The news from the hospital is just so sad. The details are too tragic to share. I did learn the baby was alive when she got to the hospital. But by the time they did the C section he was gone. I'm not sure what the final conclusion is. I fear that the overwhelmed healthcare system may have played a part. Time will tell. Time will ease the pain.
Bear
posted 9-Mar-2010 8:04pm


I'm so sorry Connie.
I hope there is some peace in this, somewhere.

Connie
posted 9-Mar-2010 9:05pm

I just got off the phone with my friend...she made me laugh! How wonderful. I am a much better happy person than a sad person. That only makes sense if you know someone who enjoys drama and misery. We all know someone like that. She is just what I needed and the odd thing is she lost her first child, another full term birth, as well. She offered a lot of insight and I'm so glad she called.

I think I may have overeaten today. It was all NFNS, but the calories are probably way too many. I didn't think I could eat dinner, then I ate two helpings of everything. Stress eating maybe...it's hard to define when your in the moment. It just seemed like one minute I wasn't hungry and the next I was starving.

Tomorrow I will have another NFNS day...that's several in a row for me! I'm back and going strong.
Debbie M.
posted 9-Mar-2010 9:32pm

Hi Y'all! I'm sorry I've been so brief and quiet. Things have been going good for me. Even thought I have totally ignored any rules in eating, I have been happy and productive. I have been lowering my meds slowly and systematically. I don't feel sleepy in the day time and I feel motivated. So far this has been the right choice for me. Also my son is doing better in school. We have been running around looking at used campers. It will be nice if the one down the street turns out to be the one for us. The neighbor will be getting his camper out of storage on Sat. He will give us a price then. Its an old camper but well cared for. I hope its cheap enough. as many of you know, we love camping. I really miss the camper we had to sell last year.
So so sad about the baby.
I hope my motivation turnstowards my diet soon. I think spring will be a good time for me to begin losing. I'm still hopeful.

Deb smile
Connie
posted 9-Mar-2010 9:50pm

Debbie...whew! I am so glad you sound so positive. One thing at a time is the best way for you to go right now. It's evident in your tone that you are very health conscious even if eating is on the back burner. Not a problem. When you get your meds worked out you can begin again, although I bet you are still eating healthier than most americans! We have all learned some great habits on here. I'm so glad you checked in.
Debbie M.
posted 9-Mar-2010 11:31pm

Thanks Connie.

Good night!
TammyGirl
posted 10-Mar-2010 7:43am

Good Morning everyone,

I am off work today -- getting my hair highlighted, which always gives me that extra boost of motivation to want to eat healthy since the highlights seem to brighten my face and make me feel good. LOL

Connie, I am glad you had a nice heart-to-heart with your close friend. That can always lift spirits.

~Tammy


TammyGirl
posted 10-Mar-2010 7:48am

Debbie, I am glad all is well with you. Hope the camper works out. My husband and son have just recently gotten into camping. They went last year for a full week down at the ocean (Delaware) and had a blast. They hope to go again this year, but a different location. smile
Debbie M.
posted 10-Mar-2010 9:07am

You guys, (girls)I can't tell you how much joy I have been feeling. Its so weird to feel this good. I know now my meds have been weighing heavy on me. I am more hopeful than ever that my brain tumor was what caused my depression and I will be getting back to normal eventually, meds free. I am going to be cautious though. If I feel a downward spiral I will stop reducing to see if I level off. Reducing too fast isn't good for anyone.
I know my comments are off topic and I'm sorry if I bore anyone but I feel like you are my friends and care about me. Thanks for being there everyone.
Bear
posted 10-Mar-2010 9:12am


Morning all.

Glad to hear people are feeling better.

The day before yesterday, 2/3 or more of the food I ate was produce/legumes. After dinner, I felt more full than I would like, and I thought I had gained weight. The next day, my clothes fit more loosely. That was just one day.

Then I did it again yesterday. Have yet to get dressed but am looking forward to it.

For me it helps to start the day off with a smoothie with several
servings of fruit, and yogurt for protein. Basing my meal around a soup or
salad - with the permission to put basically anything in them as long as they
are largely produce or legumes - is so easy.

Have a good day all.
Debbie M.
posted 10-Mar-2010 2:34pm

Bear,
I found the same thing happened to me when I ate a lot of produce. It really is so good for our bodies to eat this way. I have always found that I have to eat a lot of good foods to lose weight.
Connie
posted 10-Mar-2010 2:52pm

I weighed in at 152 this morning. Dang it! I was all set on getting some much needed sleep this morning and my phone kept ringing. Ugh! My friend has the stomach flu (her little one brings home everything!) so I'm babysitting and my plans for cleaning house are shot. Oh well. This has been a crazy week. I can only do what I can do and so far that means staying NFNS and spot vacuuming. Such is life. Hope everyone is well, geez...I hope everyone is half as well as Debbie sounds! Go Debbie. I feel much less sad today. All will turn out ok.
Bronwyn
posted 10-Mar-2010 4:39pm

Oh shoot Connie, I hope you don't pick up anything from little one.....well I know the frustration of having a hard time getting out of the 200's but, I sure wish it was only getting out of the 150's I was struggling with!

Bear I like to add greens to my smoothies to up the veggie intake. There is so much controversy out there about everything ..... should we mix veggies and fruit and so forth but I like to do that.

Debbie good to hear from you.

I am stressed about my weigh in on Friday. I really feel like I am stuck at my present weight loss of only 10 lbs. I know starving won't help either.

I have unexpected company coming.......need to get cleaning. The circumstances are stressful for them as they are coming to help get their son into a detox centre and treatment centre.
Bronwyn
posted 10-Mar-2010 4:40pm

Bear what do you dress your salads with?
K10
posted 10-Mar-2010 5:04pm

I think I am coming down with something. I have a lymph node (at least I think that's what it is)under my jawline that is very painful and seems swollen. Now I am achy, but no fever. My oldest felt nauseated on our way home from school yesterday and she stayed home today. She feels significantly better since she used the restroom this morning. If you know what I mean? I had told her I thought it was because she ate an extremely large dinner on Monday night and she came out and said some of my favorite words. "Mom, you were right, I feel better now." Sorry if that was too much info.

I need to go sit in my lazy chair. Have a good night ladies.
Bear
posted 10-Mar-2010 5:28pm


I use balsamic vinegar and olive oil.
I guess there is a small amount of natural sugar in the vinegar, but it's not
something I use more than once a day.
TammyGirl
posted 10-Mar-2010 6:19pm

K10, oh my gosh, me too, I have a lymph node under my jawline (just the right one) that is very painful and seems sore, not so much swollen and my throat has been scratchy the last 2 days. It feels like I ate something and it scratched my throat. However, today it seems on the mends.

I wonder if it's allergies...

~Tammy

TammyGirl
posted 10-Mar-2010 6:40pm

I use balsamic vinegar and olive oil too, but I use "white" balsamic vinegar. It has an ingredient called grape mist. And I'm sure that adds sweetness, because it sure tastes good.

Debbie M.
posted 10-Mar-2010 7:44pm

Went on a walk today. Saw two Robins for the first time. Male and female Cardinals flitting around. Cananda Geese and some ducks! Spring is comming. It was almost 60 today. Maybe more. smileI even see my Irises poking out?
Connie
posted 10-Mar-2010 8:03pm

K10 and Tammy, I hope you all get well soon. I HATE being sick...big baby...that's me. I wonder if I'll get the bug my friend has. The last time she got one, I got it to. Her little girl is the delivery mechanism. We'll see. The weather has been nice here today too. Cloudy...always a chance of rain, but the sun came through plenty and the temps were wonderfully mild. My eating today was here and there, but all NFNS.
TammyGirl
posted 10-Mar-2010 8:10pm

Was is it every time now I need to type in TammyGirl under Name/nickname:

It populates with Anonymous, and now I have to start to type the "T" and TammyGirl comes up. It used to ALWAYS be there though.

Do you have to constantly type in your Name to post? Unsure why I lost that capability...... frown

TammyGirl
posted 10-Mar-2010 8:10pm

*Why is it... not Was is it

Connie
posted 10-Mar-2010 9:25pm

My computer did that too for a while. I hated it! I always had to type in my name, previously it always kept my name. And then for some mysterious reason, my name stayed in again. I have no idea why. When it dropped my name, it was gone for a long time. I fully expect it will drop it again at some point and be gone for another long time. All I can tell you is eventually typing in your name will become second nature to you and not make you crazy! frown

Connie
posted 10-Mar-2010 9:25pm

OMG, I am still so diggin' the smiley/frowny faces!
Hilda
posted 11-Mar-2010 12:33am

How do you wash/disinfect your grapes?
Anonymous
posted 11-Mar-2010 7:57am

I only rince mine but I think some people use vinegar.
Debbie M.
posted 11-Mar-2010 8:07am

That was me. I'm feelin ya Tam.
I'm going to the grocery today to make great choices!!!!
K10
posted 11-Mar-2010 10:20am

After I wrote about my aches I ended up with a fever throughout the night 101.0 up to 102.8. Ibuprofen made me feel the best after taking it, but I need to eat with it. I have been eating Multigrain Cheerios when I take the meds.

I also have a burn just below my lip on the left side. I was tasting something for dinner night before last and it flipped down and burned me. When I woke up yesterday and felt it I thought at first it was going to be a pimple until I looked in the mirror. I wonder if the two could be related??? I doubt it though.

Off to rest.
K10
posted 11-Mar-2010 10:20am

I have a headache too.
Connie
posted 11-Mar-2010 11:29am

I have a splitting headache too! I think it's the weather, we have had the chance of rain for days. We ended up with a storm in the middle of the night last night. K10, you and your Cherrios...! 149.2 his morning. Today my daughters friend is coming home from the hospital. BTW, Bronwyn, I hope your company finds all they need to help their child. That is a hard one. I'm cooking today for daughters friend and family. I'll be strong.
TammyGirl
posted 11-Mar-2010 11:44am

Remember my list about the Dirty Dozen? It listed Grapes (Imported). Well, the only red grapes I see at Trader Joe’s are from Chile. But I wash them with Environne Fruit & Vegetable Wash. I actually got it at Trader Joe’s. I don’t use it on everything, just things I think might have lots of chemicals (like grapes).

Here is what the bottle says:
• Removes contaminants from the surface of produce including dirt, oil, pesticides, and waxes. Rinses clean! No aftertaste.
• Non-Toxic
• Kosher-Certified
• Highly Concentrated
• Rinses Clean

/Tammy

TammyGirl
posted 11-Mar-2010 11:47am

Connie, good luck and thoughts are with you in this difficult time today. Be strong. I know you will.

Hope everyone's headaches are gone. smile

Bear
posted 11-Mar-2010 12:58pm


Afternoon all.

Connie and K10, hope you feel better soon.

I'm still not used to the volume of food I'm eating... I know I need to eat breakfast every day, I haven't always. And the lunch I just ate makes me feel like I'm overeating, just due to the fiber content and the resulting full feeling. I had baby carrots, a few broccoli florets, soy cheese, hummus and a handful of these vegetable chips. Just like potato chips but made of sweet potato, taro, and other veggies. So good!

A little over 3.5 miles on the treadmill this morning. I think I'll go tomorrow too. Tomorrow afternoon I go to my brother's house for his birthday. I do plan to have cake, or whatever they have. However, I'll get in a ton of produce before and after...
Bronwyn
posted 11-Mar-2010 1:13pm

Oh my gosh, we don't live anywhere near each other......this must be a germ passed through the computer.....I have stuffy head, a little fever and just feel blah.....I have company coming and I just feel like going back to bed.

I soak my grapes/produce in a fairly strong vinegar rinse and then rinse well.....you know swish, swish the produce in the vinegar water.......the water gets really dirty so I know I am getting at least the dirt.
Debbie M.
posted 11-Mar-2010 3:36pm

Oh no, a computer bug!!

Feel better everyone.
Hilda
posted 11-Mar-2010 4:52pm

About how much vinegar to how much water?
Connie
posted 11-Mar-2010 5:32pm

Bronwyn, where are you? I need your advice. Ok, so we have made a couple of NFNS casseroles and 2 batches of box muffins for the grieving family. The family count is now up to 9. So daughter wanted to make some cookies. Keep in mind, daughter is the family baker. I thought it would be good to make a cookie with something other than just sugar so we decided on oatmeal raisin cookies. I really thought that would be healthier, even though full of F & S. So my question to you is this...is there any nutritional value to these cookies? I realize the nutritional value would be low, but my thinking is there are some healthy components. What do you think?
Bronwyn
posted 11-Mar-2010 8:11pm

Connie I think oatmeal and raisin are a good choice. I always put raisins in my steel cut oats and don't use sweetener. What about Nikki's healthy cookies.....sweetened with banana and sunspire chocolate chips. I have had good luck with people liking those cookies and they are reasonably healthy especially for a dessert......unlike a regular oatmeal cookie they don't have any flour. In case you don't remember the recipe I will post it.
Bronwyn
posted 11-Mar-2010 8:13pm

Nikki's Healthy Cookie Recipe

You can use unsweetened carob, or grain sweetened chocolate chips, or do what I did and chop up 2/3 of a bar of Scharffen berger 70%. I sort-of shaved half the bar with a knife and then cut the rest into bigger chip-sized chunks. You can make your own almond meal by pulsing almonds in a food processor until it is the texture of sand - don't go too far or you'll end up with almond butter. And lastly, the coconut oil works beautifully here, just be sure to warm it a bit - enough that it is no longer solid, which makes it easier to incorporate into the bananas. If you have gluten allergies, seek out GF oats.

3 large, ripe bananas, well mashed (about 1 1/2 cups)
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1/4 cup coconut oil, barely warm - so it isn't solid (or alternately, olive oil)
2 cups rolled oats
2/3 cup almond meal
1/3 cup coconut, finely shredded & unsweetened
1/2 teaspoon cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon fine grain sea salt
1 teaspoon baking powder
6 - 7 ounces chocolate chips or dark chocolate bar chopped

Preheat oven to 350 degrees, racks in the top third.

In a large bowl combine the bananas, vanilla extract, and coconut oil. Set aside. In another bowl whisk together the oats, almond meal, shredded coconut, cinnamon, salt, and baking powder. Add the dry ingredients to the wet ingredients and stir until combined. Fold in the chocolate chunks/chips.The dough is a bit looser than a standard cookie dough, don't worry about it. Drop dollops of the dough, each about 2 teaspoons in size, an inch apart, onto a parchment (or Silpat) lined baking sheet. Bake for 12 - 14 minutes. I baked these as long as possible without burning the bottoms and they were perfect - just shy of 15 minutes seems to be about right in my oven.

Makes about 3 dozen bite-sized cookies.

Print Recipe
Bronwyn
posted 11-Mar-2010 8:14pm

Connie do you still have some of that yummy coconut butter....if so use that!
Connie
posted 11-Mar-2010 8:26pm

Too late. We already made the cookies before the argument ensued. The family are all small people, not that they should not be eating NFNS, but I don't think sugar is an issue for them. Also, I think sugar is a better option for gifts...Splenda is love or hate stuff. But my question for you Bronwyn is this...is there any nutritional value in oatmeal raisin cookies? More than a regular sugar cookie? Any redeeming qualities at all?
TammyGirl
posted 11-Mar-2010 9:08pm

Bronwyn, thanks for the recipe. That does sound good and my hubby loves oatmeal cookies. Thanks.
Bear
posted 11-Mar-2010 9:44pm


sounds good. What is the best high quality coconut oil or butter?
Debbie M.
posted 12-Mar-2010 3:55am

Cold pressed and one that is not partially hygrogenated. Isn't that what you said Bronwyn?
Bronwyn
posted 12-Mar-2010 4:31am

Connie I so definitely would not make the cookies out of Splenda either. In my opinion a oatmeal cookie is a better choice than a sugar cookie.....but both are dessert and have sugar in them. I think the cookie recipe above is a good choice because it doesn't have white flour or any flour actually and it is sugar free if you use the sunspire grain sweetened chocolate chips.

Bear the coconut butter I recommend is: Artisana Organic Coconut butter (not oil but coconut butter with real pieces of coconut in it). It is ridiculously expensive and I use it very sparingly....I use it in the 3 min. chocolate cakes (no flour no sugar) and the above cookie. You have to like coconut to use it.....strong coconut flavour.

Debbie dear....can you believe I have not picked up any melatonin yet.....I need that for my sleep and something for my memory smile
Connie
posted 12-Mar-2010 8:36am

Morning all. I didn't get to weigh in this morning before I started drinking coffee. I'm off to work today...I could really, really use a day off. This week has been terrible. Last night before I went to bed my daughter came in to tell me her HS math teacher was rushed into surgery with a blood clot in her lung and one in her brain. The teacher was only about 6 or 7 years older than her students so they all bonded. She was also the cheer leading coach and organized math competitions with other schools. My daughter was active in both groups.

Here's what happened with the cookies. I think I can think more clearly this morning, but yesterday I was pretty upset. When daughter and I were discussing what to make I really wanted her to do the oatmeal raisin because I felt they had raisins and oats, not just sugar and flour. NFNS cookies were not an option because daughter wanted a regular cookie. Not my call, but I did want something that was a little hardier...not just sugar. Ok, so we had been cooking for hours when my friend came over. She questioned our choice of cookies. I said I thought the recipe we chose was the better option. Well, my friend decided to argue with me...right there in my kitchen...about my choice. She said the sugar countered all the benefits of raisins and oats and that they had no nutritional value at all. I said out of every hundred calories, maybe 5 had nutrition. She argued that I was wrong. I kind of blew a gasket. I have had a rough week and I had been cooking all day and that seemed like the final straw! She doesn't even eat a NFNS diet. I was so upset. I told her to go home. Then I thought, well maybe those cookies didn't have any nutritious calories in them. Hence my question to Bronwyn. I just didn't know who else to ask. I am at a point in my life where I don't want to argue with anyone about anything ever. My friend did email me last night and apologize for her behavior and I was glad to read it. But I also really want to be right (of course!) and I want to know the cookies, although something I wouldn't eat, were the lesser of two evils.

Time to get moving. You all have a great day and will try to have one too.
Debbie M.
posted 12-Mar-2010 10:16am

I swear by the Melatonin and now my husband is a believer too. I gave it to my son who sometimes has trouble getting to sleep because of his medicine. The jury is still out on his opinion. He was very resistant to taking it. Only took it twice so far.
Of course anyone 16 dosnt want their mom to be right. heh

Connie, Of course the cookies were better than the regular alturnative. Its like saying any air you breathe is bad because it had some imputities in it. You still got the good life saving oxygen, didn't you?
Bronwyn
posted 12-Mar-2010 11:39am

Connie I wasn't sure why you were so adamant about the oatmeal cookie but, I do totally agree with you that the oatmeal is a better choice than a sugar cookie. I cook steel cut oats with raisins in it and by time my husband and son put sugar on it,,,,,,,it is almost a cookie frown I have really got to the point that I simply don't need any sugar on my oats when I cook them with raisins, so I am intolerant of the crew when they top theirs off with a bunch of brown sugar.

Okay.....note to self *get some dang melatonin already!!!!
Mattie
posted 12-Mar-2010 1:09pm

Hi, I am new, hope you don't mind if I jump in here! Connie, I think your cookie choice was great, it is a comfort food. You are a blessing for doing all that cooking, I am sure the teacher and her family will feel very loved and touched by your generous gesture! What a treasure you are!

I am a fan of Melatonin as well. I did have weird dreams for a few weeks but either they subsided or I don't remember them anymore! Did anyone else experience that? I haven't had time to read all the posts yet so my apologies if that has been asked already.

I was also wondering if many people just avoid sugar and flour and still lose, or do they watch the fat and red meat as well?
Debbie M.
posted 12-Mar-2010 4:49pm

Welcome Mattie, I love your name! I think the dreaming comes from how deep we are sleeping while taking the melatonin. Just a guess.

I was losing weight when I was NFNS. I didn't avoid fat or meat but I did limit my portions to modest ones. Dr, Gott's book says to choose low fat dairy. And choose lean meats. I think real butter is better than the fake stuff full of partially hydrogenated oils. Also fats like avocado, olive and nut fats are healthful ones that promote the good cholesterol in our bodies. This is not a typical low fat or low carb diet. It is low simple carb but there are plenty of complex carbs that we can have. Ezekiel bread will be your best friend. I love Ezekiel English muffins are great.

Also we have learned the evils of high fructose corn syrup. Of course a suga to be avoided but way worse for our bodies then regular sugar.

Just to high light a few things.

WHat are your goals Mattie?
Bronwyn
posted 12-Mar-2010 6:17pm

Welcome Mattie.....great review Debbie smile
Connie
posted 12-Mar-2010 6:32pm

Made it home...I beat the rain so that was nice! The lady I worked for today is the retired nutritionist. She sang the praises of raisins and oatmeal. Of course I probably could have told her I put sand in them and she would have said they were ok. She likes me very much! But seriously, I just needed to know, after almost 2 years of NFNS self and book educating, that I wasn't completely wrong headed about the cookies. I may have been a little "nutty" yesterday, but I'm back to normal today. Just for the record, don't any of you show up in my kitchen and argue with me. It's not nice.

Welcome Mattie. I adhered to the NFNS eating plan very strictly and lost about 40 lbs. I also watched my portions and though I didn't watch my fat so much, I wasn't able to get the ezek breads nor did I eat many crackers etc while I was losing. I really upped my veggie intake, fresh or frozen and am still trying to work fruit into my diet. Not many fruits I like. I love this way of eating. I feel so much better. I had decided to eat this way in hopes of staving off diabetes, which run rampant in my family. I weighed somewhere around 185 when I started and began losing immediately. I would have continued to eat this way even if I hadn't lost weight...it felt that right. I wasn't trying to lose weight before I started, I just didn't have a clue how anymore. So give it a go...I always advise against slipping and sliding and trying to outsmart the plan with cheats here and there. It just never seems to get anyone where they want to go so why do it?
Debbie M.
posted 12-Mar-2010 6:54pm

Thats true Connie, I believe that how I gained my weight back. Just don't cheat.
The old saying goes: If you want to BE different, then you have to DO different.
Debbie M.
posted 12-Mar-2010 6:58pm

Thanks Bronwyn! Get your Melatonin Lady!
K10
posted 12-Mar-2010 7:15pm

Hello ladies and welcome Mattie.

So I went to the doctor today since my fever came back last night and my lymph nodes were getting larger and larger and my burn was looking worse. They hooked me up to an IV with 2 different antibiotics and I have to go back tomorrow AM for another IV. I also will have an oral antibiotic for 10 days. The doctor thought the burn caused the lymph nodes to respond and the fever. I still don't know. He also took a culture of the burn. I have some Silver Sulfadiazine to put on the burn. It started out as a tiny little mark by my lip and it is now as big as a cigar or more. I am feeling better and I hope my fevers are done. I will keep you posted.

Connie: I do think oatmeal cookies have more nutritional value than other cookies.

Connie
posted 12-Mar-2010 7:23pm

Geez K10! That is some intense antibiotic regimen you have going on there. I imagine you must be really sore. I think some intense rest is called for also. And some yogurt. I hope you feel better soon. I feel like a dope going on about my cookies.
TammyGirl
posted 12-Mar-2010 7:32pm

Welcome Mattie. smile

K10, hope you are feeling better real soon.

I have noticed that giving up flour (100%) and sugar (about 90%) of the time my mood seems to be so much better. I am even ending that TOM and didn't even have cravings and horrible mood swings. I just seem to be in a good mood all the time now and unsure why -- but then I was thinking it has to be the NFNS lifestyle. Anybody else notice this change?

Connie, I can't imagine anybody coming to anyone's kitchen and arguing about what they were baking...nice she apologized.

~Tammy

Connie
posted 12-Mar-2010 7:54pm

Tammy, I think everyone on here has noticed feeling better, mentally and physically, with NFNS. Part of it is because of our steady blood sugar levels. And other processes are happening within us as well. Wonderful, isn't it? Take that last step...give up sugar 100% and reap the benefits!
Bronwyn
posted 12-Mar-2010 8:43pm

ha, ha, ha....Connie I so totally can relate to the "don't argue with me in my kitchen feeling". I am pretty opinionated about food and food prep kind of things.

Oh my word K10....refresh my memory about the burn....how did you burn yourself? I had a similar experience on my arm with a bad burn...it was because it was my arm that I had an operation on to remove a stage 3 melanoma. It just wouldn't heal.
TammyGirl
posted 12-Mar-2010 9:09pm

I've come a long way with the no sugar ... still cave in to the dark chocolate some, but not like I did in the beginning. I also have regular ketchup and salad dressing - stick to the lowest carb ones though.

It's been almost 2 weeks and I'm still logging all my food into My Fitness Pal. I truly can't believe it. I never could keep that darn WW tracker thing going, but this online journal is working out great. It's so easy. smile

Connie
posted 12-Mar-2010 9:27pm

I suppose the jury is still in regards to consuming sugar in condiments. I think it's ok for the ketchup, salad dressings etc as long as it's small occasional amounts. Maybe dark chocolate could be a Sunday evening only treat. Just a thought. Sugar consumption creates cravings...it's up to you if you can control them.

I'm off to bed. I am looking forward to a relaxing weekend. And I will decapitate anyone who tries to mess up my plans. I've drawn a line in the sand...this weekend is going to be about rest and domestic things. I tried that last weekend and it didn't work. Hence, the decapitating statement. Did it sound scary enough to ward off would be thwarters?
Bronwyn
posted 12-Mar-2010 9:53pm

google.....canadian living magazine pozole recipe.....good and NFNS....use Ezekial tortillas to make the crisps.....like a soup with a salad on top

way to go Tammy.....

speaking of Jury....I was called to Jury duty, I have asked to be excused,,,,,haven't heard yet.
Debbie M.
posted 12-Mar-2010 10:22pm

K10, I wonder if you got a strep infection in you burn? I'll pray for you along with a friend of mine from our old church who had a heart attach, surgery and is in ICU right now. When it rains it pours. YEs and get lots of Greek Yogurt like Connie said. You insides are going to be a mess.

Tammygirl, I have experienced less or no PMS when I am NFNS!! I'm glad its working for you. And I bet your husband is too.

I noticed a strange little lump on the bony part of the top of my left foot. It seems to be attached to something stiff. Not floating around in the fatty tissue. I'm going to call the doc Mnday. Its a little sore. Arent we a motley crew?

Connie, Thanks for encouraging us to stay 100%. It really is rewarding when we do it.

I sat in a Jury once in my 20's.

Good night all.
Hilda
posted 12-Mar-2010 11:47pm

I am not over my upper respiratory infection. I am on so much medicine, and it is making me hyper. Can't sleep well. Both ears have fluid and I'm still coughing. I'm on steroids and Avelox and Mucinex now. 5 more days to take the antibiotic. I am wanting to eat and drink all the time. I am eating healthy though and lots of water.

My sister got sick and went to the doctor 2 days ago and got an antibiotic. Then today she went back with 104 fever. Something very nasty is going around. I will have been sick for 2 weeks on Sunday. Last Saturday I was down a few pounds. I am anxious to see if I have gained on the steroids.
K10
posted 13-Mar-2010 12:47am

Bronwyn: I got my burn by tasting some au gratin potatoes to see if they were done. The piece of potato bent over and touched my face just below my lip. It hurt and I said ow!! but no big deal. I also burnt my tongue and put sugar on it, that actually worked to take away the burn. This happened on Tuesday night. I woke up Wednesday with a little mark by my lip and a swollen lymph node just under the left side of my chin. Almost exactly below my burn. The burn is now as big as a quarter and is raised. I am a sight to behold. I am swollen all the way up the left side of my jaw.

Good night all. I hope we all get better soon.
Connie
posted 13-Mar-2010 9:26am

All these "sick" posts are so worrying! Hilda, good grief! Bless your heart...you sound miserable too. Steroids are nasty. But it sounds like they are very necessary for you. I had to take some after my sinus surgery (the best thing I ever did!) and I just couldn't tolerate them well at all. I ended up just stopping them. I think I took about half the bottle before I threw them out. But I wasn't sick, just healing and the healing was going along nicely so I took the chance. You need them and I am so sorry you have to go through all the ugly side effects. Hopefully you will start to clear up and feel much better soon. Good job on the eating choices. If you have gained any weight from the steroids, it will melt off quickly once you are off them. It seems late in the season for all of these bugs to be making the rounds.

Debbie, let us know what you find out about your bump. I hate bumps.

K10, I get fever blisters on my lip every other year or so. I hate them. But your burn will go away eventually. Just don't take any family pictures for awhile!

Browyn, how did the weigh in go? I forgot to ask last night. 148.6 this morning. Yippee! I had cereal for dinner last night with 10 prunes. I do love prunes and they are kind to me so enough said there. I feel much less puffy, something I always feel when I eat F&S. But I am wanting to get back down to 143. If I could get under 145 I would feel back to normal. And my pants would fit comfortably again.

This morning is great so far. No one has called me for a favor or anything. I'm home all day and plan to alternate rest with light housework. I think it is going to rain today so a nice day to stay in.
TammyGirl
posted 13-Mar-2010 9:49am

Good Morning All,

I hope everyone is feeling better today. I almost feel guilty because I'm not sick. My sore throat went away as quick as it came -- as soon as we got rain it went away so I am calking it up to spring allergies. Unsure if it helped but I took garlic pills for a few days, nature's own antibiotic supposedly. Wow steroids are wicked, that's all I can say about them. I was on them once and didn't finish either.

It's going to be a raining weekend here in Baltimore. I promised son I would take him indoor rock climbing. He only ever did it once and that was like 5 years ago. It's $18 for three climbs.

Take care all.
Mattie
posted 13-Mar-2010 1:09pm

Thanks for the warm welcome! It is embarrassing but my goal was to see if I could get through ONE day sticking to no flour and no sugar. I have tried so many diets in recent months and I haven't even made it one day!! So far I have been doing this for several days and I don't feel like food is consuming me anymore, it is such a relief! I am reading the book now.

I did find ketchup made with agave. I do not use artificial sweeteners. The health food store where I live will order requests as long as we have the name brand so I am looking for stevia and agave products, if anyone knows of any.

I am sorry so many here have been ill. I will be praying for a speedy recovery for all and thanks for the advice.

Bear
posted 13-Mar-2010 2:24pm


Welcome Mattie. Sounds like you found a good plan.

Afternoon all. I hope you guys feel better soon, Hilda and K10.
Nice take no prisoners attitude, Connie. smile

I just got back from my brother's. Let's just say I'm *really* looking forward
to getting back to 100%, I feel yucky and tired. I had an apple for lunch just to compensate for the damage, somewhat.

So happy to be back. Planning a restful weekend, which I hope everyone else
can have too.
Bronwyn
posted 13-Mar-2010 3:12pm

It has been so crazy here as I have cried with and watched the emotional upheaval my company is going through with the process of getting their child prepared for detox and treatment. I have no understanding of this disease but, I do have a huge amount of empathy. He is 29 years old and the problem is to even get him into shape to board a plane and head off to detox and treatment on Sunday. He wants to go, he wants help and change and yet he is drinking himself into a stupor until he passes out and then starts again.....this is his preparation for treatment. I guess it is some what like eating everything in site as you prepare to diet....both bad ideas. I have felt like they should clean everything out of his apartment, take away his money or whatever but apparently the treatment centre has advised to just let him go, keep him safe and that they will deal with it medically when he arrives on Sunday. I feel so sad and downhearted and it isn't even my child.

I am doing okay with the food. It seems like everyone is dealing with some issue at the moment but trying to do their best with food choices.
Connie
posted 13-Mar-2010 9:37pm

Time for daughter to go back to the dorm. If I had any stamina I'd take her right now.

This is the dreaded "spring forward weekend." I hate doing this. It literally takes me 6 month to adjust. I wish someone would put an end to it, leave it one way or the other.

Shrimp Scampi with rice pasta for dinner. I caught myself munching on NFNS corn chips today...I froze with chip halfway to my mouth and though "what am I doing?" My son had set the chips out and then just walked away and left them there. I put them away as soon as I realized what I was doing. I splurged and had 2 ezek muffins for breakfast. Good thing I did since I needed the energy to get all of my stuff done today. Basically everyone left me alone and I accomplished a lot. Feels good. I hope you all have had a good day...and Bronwyn I hope you house guest have some blessings in the future. That is a tough one. Alcohol is so evil for some people. It robs them of everything. I wish them all success in getting healthy.
Hilda
posted 13-Mar-2010 11:14pm

I had a bag of steamed vegetables for lunch. They were so good, I think I could eat them every day. They were from Aldi (asparagus,carrots,sugar snap peas, red peppers and onions.) I think it was called Spring Mix.

I am feeling better today. Finished the steroids. 4 more days of antibiotics to go. I didn't wheeze when I tried to sleep last night. That gave me a much better night's sleep.
K10
posted 14-Mar-2010 12:49am

Not doing well. I went to urgent care again today to get my IV antibiotics. I am more swollen than I have been. I woke up this morning and my lip was so big, I cried. I am concerned to say the least. The doctors don't know for sure what is wrong. They don't know if the glands are swollen due to the burn, or if the reaction of the burn is a fever blister or what. I ended up sick to my stomach today and I need to go back in tomorrow. I just want to know what is happening. Please pray for me.frown

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