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No Flour, No Sugar Diet






Summary


Dr. Gott's No Flour, No Sugar Diet presents a simple, straight-forward way to lose weight and keep it off for a lifetime. All you need do is eliminate flour and sugar from your diet.


Description


This diet book contains common-sense techniques on how to eat better and achieve a healthier lifestyle. It gets you to focus on foods that are nutritional and satisfying. Thus, you can both lose weight and become healthier in the process.

You can eat brown rice, lean meats, low-fat dairy products, fruits and vegetables. But, you have to stop eating foods like bagels, pasta, bread, cereal, white rice, cookies, sweets, and cakes.

Many excellent recipes are included in the book with have no flour and sugar, yet taste delicious.

The approach is to keep things simple by just eliminating flour and sugar, the two primary food ingredients that are causing the obesity problem in America. Our culture has become addicted to sweets. This book helps you break the addiction and get on track for eating healthier while losing that extra weight.


History


Dr. Gott is a medical columnist published in over 350 newspaper daily. He is a practicing physician with a general practice in Connecticut. He's also the director of medicine at Hotchkiss School (a prep-school).


Criticism


Giving up bread and sweets may simply be too hard for some people. Sugar is in a great majority of products sold today. While the diet sounds simple, implementing it and sticking to it is quiet a challenge.




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Related Diets:   Cambridge Diet   Cabbage Soup Diet   No-S Diet   South Beach Diet   Fat Smash Diet  


  31-Aug-2006 11:02am created by bill

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Debbie M.
posted 9-May-2014 2:56pm

See, still me, typo's and all! smile I'm glad you are feeling better 2gorjus.
Debbie M.
posted 10-May-2014 10:28am

Ok, in a desperate effort to jump start my motivation to get loosing again I bought a couple days worth of lean cuisines. I know its not the healthiest, especially long term but I needed to do SOMETHING!

Happy Mother's Day to all you mom's and ladies who are not moms. You should have a fabulous day too!
Karen
posted 11-May-2014 8:06am

148.6. 7363. Happy Mother's Day! I wish I hadn't gotten on the scale this morning. I had taken a couple of days off from weighing myself, hoping that if I didn't focus so much on the weight they might just come off smile. Unfortunately, all I did was go up frown Wishing us all much good health and success!
2gorjus
posted 11-May-2014 9:41am

Happy Mother's Day everyone. 173.8 this morning. I can't seem to lose any weight. I need to start writing everything down. That usually helps.
Debbie M.
posted 11-May-2014 10:40am

209 today
Arent we mothers everyday?
Debbie M.
posted 11-May-2014 8:38pm

Karen, I love your step counting. Its fun to watch.
Karen
posted 13-May-2014 11:30am

147.0 8952. Thanks Debbie-- I have begun walking for exercise again. Our town pool opens at the end of the month. I always had the "how to" but was lacking the "want to" . Now I want to lose weight more than I want the snacking and treats. Nothing like thinking about yourself walking around in a bathing suit in public to help spur on one's efforts! :)
Debbie M.
posted 13-May-2014 2:23pm

HAHA, for sure about the bathing suit. Keep up the good work!
ANNIE
posted 13-May-2014 10:30pm

Hey, Deb what happen to Connie, Bronwyn, Hilda they helped keep us on track unless they think we are really not doing as good as we should. I am glad your back it takes just one thought to get this problem under control. Weight is something complicated because so many things can start a binge. Not much stops me from eating unless my other half says something about my weight then I get mad. But I don't stay mad for long. I will have to learn the new gals and there ideas on what they do to follow the plan. I do read threw some old post for recipes it is a real helps. Good night to all. ANNIE
ANNIE
posted 13-May-2014 10:31pm

Excuse my spelling. Annie
Debbie M.
posted 14-May-2014 9:05am

No problem with the spelling. I have a habit of "sending" before I prof-read! I'd like to see the other girls back too.

A resent study showed that women who carry a little extra weight live longer then men who comment on it. smile
210
Debbie M.
posted 14-May-2014 9:06am

see *proofread smile
Debbie M.
posted 14-May-2014 4:46pm

Anyone watch The Middle? ITs a good show for us at this time in our lives. smile
Debbie M.
posted 15-May-2014 12:22am

Yesterday I helped 9 ducklings get up a tall curb at Wal-Mart when the mama decided she wanted to change ponds. Following their mama, they all jumped down one curb and crossed the parking lot entrance but only the mom was big enough to jump up the next curb leaving the babies stranded in traffic. So me and a mail man who was passing by, parked our cars and one by one lifted the ducklings up the curb. The Mallard hissed at us a couple times from the bushes, as the little ones all ran towards her and disappeared into safety :)It was a good day. smile
2gorjus
posted 15-May-2014 2:16pm

Yay!!!!!
Karen
posted 15-May-2014 7:02pm

Hi Debbie! What a great story! There are such beautiful moments in life. Glad you didn't miss it!
Debbie M.
posted 18-May-2014 7:22pm

My baby turned 16 over the weekend. Crazy! So proud smile
Karen
posted 19-May-2014 9:25am

149.4 7151 Friday I was 145.4 I do so well all week and then blow it on the weekend. I know I am not the first one to write this. I guess I should be grateful that at least I've gotten Monday through Friday under control smile Congratulations Debbie! Sweet 16!
Anonymous
posted 19-May-2014 10:42am

Count your blessings, Debbie. My baby turned 47!!!

172.2
2gorjus
posted 19-May-2014 10:43am

Sorry, the anonymous was me.
Debbie M.
posted 20-May-2014 7:16pm

Wow, to have a baby turn 47 is far in the future and sure sounds odd. I'll be 50 next month. The older I get the older *OLD* is to me. lol I know my kids think I'm old but I'm not. And my parents think I'm young.

I admit I have some body parts wearing out but my mind is the same. Actually I feel tired in the mind sometimes. I thought I would get wiser as I get older but with the way the world is going I feel frustrated. This world is getting scary. I fear for the kids. Look at all they have to deal with? I'm afraid for our future. For their future. Does anyone else feel like this sometimes? Maybe I'm just hormonal today. frown

Bad vibes at work today. Maybe SHE's hormonal. lol smileI can't wait to get out of here.

I NEED a vacation............a vacation that is not work. We will be camping this weekend. See? Work. Its joyful to camp but its a lot of preparation and clean up. The in between is fun though. But usually too short.
2gorjus
posted 21-May-2014 10:51am

My parents used to own a cabin on Flatrock River, about 25 miles from here. They loved it. All I could see was Mother still cooking, making beds, putting wood in the fireplace, and generally doing everything she usually did at home. But she loved it!!! Go figure!!! She would have spent all summer there if she could have. Not me. When I go on vacation, I want someone else to wait on me. To each his own.

172.2
Kathy
posted 21-May-2014 11:04pm

Just caught up on the recent posts. saw the American idol finale tonight. Debbie, Ask Bronwyn to check in. I haven't posted calories in a while, I guess I got in to a good enough eating routine from all the months that I did post calories. won't be eating almonds much anymore. I'm getting a new tooth crown an I don't want to destroy it on almonds. Walnuts are softer though.
Debbie M.
posted 22-May-2014 7:57am

I need a crown too. $500.00 is my part so needless to say I will wait a while. Mine is cracked. It will be my second crown.
Off to wash the camper awning.
Good to see you Kathy. I"m glad you are doing so well on your calories. smile
Karen
posted 23-May-2014 11:21am

146.4 4812. Wishing everyone a great Memorial Day Weekend! Remembering all those who lost their lives defending us. May they rest in peace.
Karen
posted 25-May-2014 2:49pm

143.0. Yay! Dancing all night at a wedding really paid off! smile
Debbie M.
posted 26-May-2014 11:55pm

Super Karen! Snacking all weekend at camp did NOT pay off for me.
Karen
posted 1-Jun-2014 7:29am

146.2 yesterday our pool opened up for the weekend only. Definitely gave me the willpower to be extra good this coming week in anticipation of walking around in a bathing suit in public next weekend! Never give up!
Susan
posted 2-Jun-2014 8:32am

My husband and I have been on NFNS for a couple of weeks now, he is doing great and losing a lot of inches around his middle. I have lost a couple of pounds but not as much as I'd like. I am like Janie I think, overeating acceptable foods. Today, being Monday, I am going to try to do better with that. Nuts is the one thing I can't control, I have even thought about buying the small snack packs to see if that would work.
Debbie M.
posted 2-Jun-2014 11:17am

The snack packs are good but expensive. For my kids's lunches I have bought nuts in bulk and then separated them out into snack size baggies. Its easy to grab and It reminds me not to eat too many. The original container has the portion size and calorie count on it. I have a food scale so can make sure every baggie is the same.
Kathy
posted 2-Jun-2014 9:48pm

My daughter in law put a yoga app on my ipad. So after dinner I take a 20 minute walk (some hills) and do 10 minutes of yoga. Lots of playing with grandchildren during the day. No sugar. No red meat. So that leaves chicken, fish, and turkey.

Susan, I use to overdo on nuts. And I think it was tension eating. I'm trying to switch the chewing habit to half apples. Let me know if you find any alternative to overeating nuts- I could use one.
Debbie M.
posted 3-Jun-2014 10:33am

I am posting this partial artical because I was thinking about the good fats that nuts have and did a little research. This is what I found. It is by SockDoc:

Optimum fatty acid balance means two basic things – no harmful fats and plenty of the healthy ones. Harmful fats are the partially hydrogenated fats, commonly referred to as “trans” fats as well as excess vegetable oils. Trans fats are listed as shortening, margarine, and as partially hydrogenated corn, vegetable, soy, cottonseed or some other oil on a package. These fats cause a lot of inflammation and block essential enzyme reactions from occurring while also preventing the good, anti-inflammatory fats from doing their jobs. Even eating them a little bit is a problem because the half-life is a whopping 51 days. That means after 102 days there is still 25% of the stuff causing problems and over a year before some people can metabolize all of it entirely. This pretty much ends the debate whether to eat margarine or butter. Those still eating margarine because they were told it is better for cholesterol and body weight can see why it’s beneficial to change to butter and get the laboratory-made trans fat out of the diet 100%.
Healthy fats are the essential omega-3 and omega-6 fats. Most people are deficient in the omega-3s because they are primarily from fish and flax seeds, and to some extent walnuts – foods often not consumed in high amounts. Most eat too many omega-6s fats found in processed, packaged, and fast food.

Healthy omega-6 fats are plentiful in most vegetables, nuts and seeds, and legumes but the ones found in soy, corn, safflower, and peanut oils can quickly inflame the body, especially when consumed with too many carbohydrates. So a good amount of both omega-3, (perhaps supplementing with flax or fish oil), and omega-6 fats from raw nuts, seeds and vegetables, and a diet absent of trans fats will allow the body to fight inflammation and recover faster, as well as lower cholesterol and heart disease risk. And, for the purpose of this topic, it will allow calcium to be pushed into the tissues to heal inflamed bursa. As a side note, two other symptoms of inadequate calcium metabolism due to poor fatty acid metabolism are calf cramps, especially ones at night that resemble “Charley horses”, and cold sores/fever blisters, including herpes simplex infections. (Yes, these are viral infections, but their eruption is often provoked by a calcium problem.) Also, although olive oil is a great fat to eat and should be included in every diet, it is not considered an essential fat because it is an omega-9.
Kathy
posted 4-Jun-2014 8:29am

I like the part that says 'this pretty much ends the debate whether to eat margarine or butter'. I just like things resolved once and for all!
Karen
posted 4-Jun-2014 10:37am

Great article! Thx Debbie!
Debbie M.
posted 4-Jun-2014 12:52pm

Me too Kathy smile
Has anyone tried mixing room temp butter with olive oil to make it spreadable? You can keep it refrigerated this way and its still spreadable. I'm going to try that. I think it said 1/4 c oive oil to 1/2 cup butter (thats 1 stick), mix with blender and put into resealable container. At first you think you have made a terrible soupy mistake but after it cools down its a good consistency. Let me know if you try it and what you think.
Karen
posted 5-Jun-2014 7:19am

We just keep a stick of butter in the cabinet at room temp. We've done this for decades. It's safe. I learned it from Canadian friends.
144.6 today is our last day of school. Looking forward to beginning a new health routine...
Debbie M.
posted 5-Jun-2014 8:44am

We have done kept butter out too with no ill effects but I thought adding some olive oil had the added benefit of cutting down on the cholestrol calories from the butter and adding some good fat instead. I'm sure the amount would be small though.
I took a long walk in the rain yesterday with my golf umbrella. TOday is bright and sunny. Off to another walk. My MP3 player dosn't seem to be working. I wonder why? Its charged. Boooo
Debbie M.
posted 7-Jun-2014 1:33am

My daughter just went through commencement tonight. Sweet and sour. The emotions are crazy. Two down, two to go.
Karen
posted 8-Jun-2014 7:26am

144.0. It's my birthday weekend. 49 and feeling blessed! Have a great day everyone!
Debbie M.
posted 8-Jun-2014 10:21pm

Happy birthday Karen! Happy 49! Now we are both 49!
Karen
posted 10-Jun-2014 6:41am

146.4 over indulged for my birthday and I am ok with that! Now back to the routine!
Debbie M.
posted 10-Jun-2014 8:58am

Garlic Rubbed Roasted Cabbage Steaks

If you love cabbage, you are going to freak out about how good this is. Now, if you are on the fence about cabbage, you need to try this because this might be the recipe that converts you to a cabbage lover.

This is a simple side dish worthy of a dinner party and couldn’t be easier to make. Four ingredients, a couple of minutes to prepare and toss in the oven for an hour.

Ingredients
1 (approx 2lb) head of organic green cabbage, cut into 1″ thick slices
1.5 tablespoons olive oil
2 to 3 large garlic cloves, smashed
kosher salt
freshly ground black pepper
spray olive oil OR non-stick cooking spray

Instructions:
1. Preheat oven to 400F and spray a baking sheet with non-stick cooking spray. Pull outer leaf off cabbage (it’s usually dirty and nasty looking), cut cabbage from top to bottom (bottom being root) into 1″ thick slices.

2. Rub both sides of cabbage with smashed garlic.

3. Use a pastry brush to evenly spread the olive oil over both sides of the cabbage slices.

4. Finally, sprinkle each side with a bit of kosher salt and freshly cracked black pepper.

5. Roast on the middle rack for 30 minutes. Carefully flip the cabbage steaks and roast for an additional 30 minutes until edges are brown and crispy. Serve hot and Enjoy!
Debbie M.
posted 13-Jun-2014 10:04am

I'm full of anxiety. I have a lot going on within the next week. Father's Day on Sunday, Orientation for two days and spending the night on campus for my daughter who is going to college and then her high school graduation party next weekend. I'm not sure I can handle all this. I keep telling myself, its going to be ok, its going to be ok.
Debbie M.
posted 17-Jun-2014 9:23am

Junk food is not good for me. I know it and yet I continue to eat it. Why do I do this? It's the most preplexing this. Why don't I do what I know I should do?
Karen
posted 21-Jun-2014 6:04pm

146.0 loving this weather! Hope you are feeling better Debbie.
Debbie M.
posted 22-Jun-2014 5:57pm

Feeling some relief now. Graduation, Father's Day, Camping trip and College Orientation, and Graduation Party all are over. Thank you notes are filled out and ready to mail. So I am feeling some relief. Still need to fill out finacial papers for school. We are not even close to getting this first year of school financed so if she needs to stay home and take community college courses the first year then I guess she does. I hope not. tHat is our next focus.

I thought about, and think about everyday, losing weight.
Debbie M.
posted 23-Jun-2014 2:26pm

I turn 50 tomorrow. No plans which kinds makes me sad but I'm focusing on the fact that any day on the right side of the grass is a good day.
Karen
posted 24-Jun-2014 8:33am

So glad I checked in today! HAPPY 50th BIRTHDAY DEBBIE!!!
Wishing you many blessings for your best year ever!
Debbie M.
posted 24-Jun-2014 4:49pm

Thank you Karen, I'm having a wonderful day!
Debbie M.
posted 25-Jun-2014 10:52am

I made my frosting for my lemon cake out of cool whip and added yogurt. It still had sugar but it was light and fluffy and I'm sure had way less sugar than regular frosting. I wonder what could be used instead of the cool whip.
Debbie M.
posted 30-Jun-2014 10:34am

My husband suggested that I do something for just 24 hours. I was complaining about my gigantic stomach. So I am in my 20th hours of my plan. C'mon 2:00 when I reevaluate my plan and do somehting else for another 24 hours. Seems Steve detected a pattern in me. I don't stick to anything for very long. We thought if I changed it up frequently, I might make some progress. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Debbie M.
posted 2-Jul-2014 1:43pm

Going to the grocery store with no flour/no sugar on mind.
Karen
posted 3-Jul-2014 8:07am

148 definitely too many chocolate-vanilla twists with rainbow sprinkles on a cone. Interestingly, the more I have the less they satisfy... That always seems to be the way. How is the 24 hour plan going Deb?
Debbie M.
posted 3-Jul-2014 8:27am

I failed at that. I did however, buy lots of fresh produce. Too bad I also bought a box of Kelloggs Cracker Chips and ate them as I cooked dinner. I didnt eat the whole box as my kids were picking at them too. I let myself get too hungry and couldnt resist. In the evening I had cherries and watermellon. 212
Karen
posted 4-Jul-2014 10:06am

146.0. It isn't easy...
Debbie M.
posted 4-Jul-2014 11:35am

Happy Independence Day everyone. smile
Anonymous
posted 9-Jul-2014 9:33pm

Does anyone have a child with type 1 diabetics and if so is it hard to treat. I just found out my grandchild has it and I babysit him, he is 6 years old. What luck we have. Also where do you get information on this condition ? Thought maybe someone would have some knowledge on this. Thank you all.
Anonymous
posted 10-Jul-2014 1:21pm

I'm sure the parents will share all critical information with anyone babysitting their child who has diabetes. These days people with diabetes usually wear a pump but I'm not sure if 6 is too young for him/her. The internet is a great place to do research, of course. Best wishes and sorry about your grandchild's condition.
Anonymous
posted 10-Jul-2014 4:25pm

thank you.
Karen
posted 10-Jul-2014 9:26pm

Most hospitals have excellent diabetic educators. You might want to call your local hospital and ask the diabetic nurse educator if she could point you in the right direction for educational materials.
Anonymous
posted 11-Jul-2014 9:23am

Will do. thank you.
Anonymous
posted 11-Jul-2014 3:35pm


There are 4 macronutrients. A high level explanation of each of their functions is:

Protein, which is required for muscle retention/growth
Fat, which is required for healthy body functions
Carbs, which provide energy
Alcohol, which provides for embarrassing photos
Anonymous
posted 13-Jul-2014 8:58am

Its a joke ^ What? No sense of humor? smile
Debbie M.
posted 15-Jul-2014 2:50pm

Embarrassing photos! Thats about all its worth. lol

Can't seem to get on the wagon. Weight higher than ever. frown
Karen
posted 16-Jul-2014 6:43am

Haven't been on in a long time, and haven't weighed myself since my last post. 145.2 today. Wishing everyone a great day and freedom from the tyranny of food.
Debbie M.
posted 16-Jul-2014 9:36am

Good to see you can keep it under control Karen.
I'm facing a lot of life changing events right now. I know that shouldn't be a reason to over eat but its been what I'm doing. I really want to stop. I'm totally spinning out of control.
Time to grow up and put on my big girl panties. smile
My daughter got her dorm and room mate assignment yesterday. I'm so emotional. She leaves in one month.
Karen
posted 18-Jul-2014 9:04am

144.6. I need to thank God. I have no idea how I am back down again in weight. Just been focusing all my attention on prayer and being loving to those in my life. I guess I have been feeling more "full" lately.
Debbie M.
posted 18-Jul-2014 9:41pm

lovely
Debbie M.
posted 23-Jul-2014 11:16pm

"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. --Dr. Seuss"
Karen
posted 24-Jul-2014 8:40am

144.2. One day at a time. Small steps add up over the long haul.
Debbie M.
posted 24-Jul-2014 11:58am

211 today
Debbie M.
posted 28-Jul-2014 11:53am

210.8 Trying to cut donw and make better healthful choices. More God made foods. Less processed stuff, although I still crave salty crunchy things at times. A few roasted red pepper Triscuits helps sometimes.
Kathy, where are you?

Bronwyn
posted 28-Jul-2014 12:35pm

Hey good for you Deb, I haven't talked to you for a couple of weeks.. I was contemplating NFNS and checked this site. I haven't been here for a very long time. Happy to see your post and, that you are doing good things for yourself.
Debbie M.
posted 28-Jul-2014 1:18pm

Hey B, good to see you here! Hope you continue your swimming. I'm always trying........always.
Bronwyn
posted 29-Jul-2014 11:23pm

Hey Deb, I did a 50 minute swim jog and 30 minute walk. Unfortunately I ate 5 million calories ..... Geesh
Debbie M.
posted 30-Jul-2014 10:51am

Good job B! Just keep swimming.................Its been so cold here, I just can't believe it. A couple days ago we had a record breaking high of only 64!! It's usually scorching this time of year. Our pool is sitting there very lonly. smile On to ride my exercise bike! I got one at a yard sale a couple weeks ago. I wonder if it will ever warm up to normal summer temps this year.
Debbie M.
posted 3-Aug-2014 9:38am

Change change change. Seem like nuttin but change lately.
Karen
posted 3-Aug-2014 11:35am

147.2. Just got back from vacation. Ate everything I wanted, but now back to reality! Glad to see everyone is hanging in there!
Karen
posted 4-Aug-2014 2:15pm

146.6. Inching back to normal!
Debbie M.
posted 4-Aug-2014 3:48pm

Good for you.
Karen
posted 5-Aug-2014 8:41am

147.0 and I was good yesterday. Oh well. Bought an iPod to replace my lost one. Time to start walking again!
Debbie M.
posted 5-Aug-2014 12:09pm

I was given an ipod for my birthday but I have not opened it yet. It's an iPod nano 16GB Gray. Which do you have?
Karen
posted 5-Aug-2014 5:51pm

I just bought a shuffle because it was the cheapest. I really prefer walking with music. I got it all set up today, but felt too hot and lazy to go for a walk! Maybe this evening...but probably not! :)
Bronwyn
posted 8-Aug-2014 1:32am

I got a waterproof i-pod shuffle today for swimming. It was a 150.$,,,,, I have no idea how much ones cost that aren't waterproof. It is so tiny ,,,, I am hoping I like it. I had my husband put some music on it,,,,,,,,, not the kind of music I was hoping for, it seems a little sleepy. I wanted something with a beat that makes you want to move. I have been doing 45 to 60minutes swim/jog, pretty consistently,without music.
Karen
posted 8-Aug-2014 9:58am

145.2. Great job Bronwyn! U can buy an iTunes gift card and when u connect ur iPod to your computer it will automatically open the iTunes Store. U can buy all your favorite songs!
Debbie M.
posted 8-Aug-2014 11:15am

Bronwyn, Be sure to get the music you like. The only thing worse than no music to work out with is music too slow. My iPod nano was 150 also. Keep up the good work. Have you made any friends at the pool?
Karen
posted 8-Aug-2014 8:17pm

A regular shuffle is only $46.
Bronwyn
posted 10-Aug-2014 12:18am

Okay, used my water proof I-pod for the first time today. It was so much fun. One problem is that the sound is only working on one side,,,,, so I have written the guy to see what can be done. His company has great reviews, I think he will make it right. I definitely want sound on both sides. It came from the states so unfortunately It will take a couple of weeks to get a replacement. I will use it with one side of sound........still like it. I had to laugh out loud at a couple of the songs my husband had put on,,,,,,,I was rocking it to the Spice Girls. He loves jazz and blues,,,,,, a little too much of those tunes for my taste, I want some old time rock and roll. Thanks Karen for the tip on the iTunes card. Sounds like I paid a lot for my shuffle frown ........but, I wanted it water proof.

Deb, I pretty much have the pool to myself.......it is great. It may change in the winter, right now the outdoor pool is more popular and, I have the indoor to myself. I did 65 minutes today. I need to be more careful with calories however........
Connie
posted 10-Aug-2014 5:13pm

Hello ladies. Long time, no check in! A lot of family stuff and in general stuff has kept my mind elsewhere, and now I am at 162 and pretty sad about that. I've actually been up in my weight for quite a while, but I have had zero interest or determination to do anything about it. I'm feeling a little bit back on track for the last couple of days and I think I'm ready to eat healthy again. So far, so good anyway. I'll try and catch up on the older posts, but that may be difficult to do. So where did we leave off? My son is now married, I didn't even drop the weight for that big event! My daughter relocated to Atlanta, I rarely see her and my husband travels a lot, soooo, kind of lonely really. Thinking about adopting someone's family! Lost a family pet ( old age) and all of them are old so I guess I have a lot of that in my future too. Now, how about all of you?
Debbie M.
posted 11-Aug-2014 3:30am

Hey hey hey Connie! I wish I weighed 162. In fact I think that is what I weighed the very first time I ever went on a diet. At that time I lost about 20 pounds, getting down to 142. My it was grand. Someday!!!!! But now I am at an all time high, boooo.

My kids are getting big. My son still still lives at home. He just turned 21 and has been at his new job learning CAD. We are taking my 18 year old daughter to college on Thursday. (mixed emotions about that) My other two daughters, 16 and 14 are both going to high school in a couple weeks. We are already busy with cross country and soccer. But mostly I have been buying stuff for my oldest daughter's dorm. She is very excited. Cleaning out her room and organizing her clothes is a challenge. We only have a few more days with her and she seems to want to be everywhere else besides home.

After the dust settles around here I really want to put some effort into ME!

Bronwyn, I'm happy about your music (but rats)that it has to be replaced. Sounds like you are really going to town in that pool. Thats great! We had to take our pool down this past weekend as the patch that has been on the side the last couple years has sprung a leak. I wish I could say something in french to you right now. smile

Connie I'm so sorry about your pet.I I remember seeing a photo of you with a cat. Was that the one you lost? So sorry. I have been broken hearted upon the loss of a loved pet before. It can take a long time to get past the initial grief. They really do occupy a special place in our hearts..........

C.mon, we can do it!
Its great to hear from you Connie. smile
Debbie M.
posted 11-Aug-2014 3:53am

Karen, My iPod has a fitness setting with a step counter in it. I can't wait to try it out. I wonder if it will count "stepsl while I'm on the bike in the livingroom. lol It also has a radio in it where I can pause radio. Heh, that will be nice for listening to ND football when I'm at work. I won't have to miss a play now due to answering the phone! I'll let you know how that works out this fall. Also I can download movies on to it. The screen is small but watching a movie during slow times at work will be nice especially when I'm alone at work. It can get so boring at times.
Back to bed for me.


Do any of you skype? I'm going to set that up with my daughter before she goes to college. I hear its a life saver when sending your kids off to school. She will only be three hours away but it would be nice to see her. Some of my other friends recommend it.
Good night
9i
Karen
posted 11-Aug-2014 8:46am

146.2 Hi Deb, I skype with my friend Mary who moved to Georgia. If you need help setting it up let me know, but I guarantee your daughter will be able to set it up in a couple of minutes. Teens are great that way! And enjoy the cool features of your iPod. I really like Apple products. Good to see so many checking in. I hope we can all motivate one another to better health! Karen
Connie
posted 11-Aug-2014 9:20am

Morning all. 160.4 this morning. I'm feeling good about my eating for the first time in a long time. Yesterday I spent some time looking for new healthy recipes, found a couple. I'll let you know if they are any good. My first goal is 155, but ultimately I would like to get back to 145. So, diggin in time!

Debbie, I have only skyped from TN to OR. There was a lot of interference, but your distance isn't too far so it will probably be great.

Bronwyn, good for you swimming! I'm still not exercising...just thinking about it since the beginning of time!
Bronwyn
posted 11-Aug-2014 11:33am

Oh my gosh,,,,Connie, Debbie and me,,,,,,,,,it is like we got the band back together. Is NFNS really the key,,,,,,,we have all been all over the map with all kinds of other programs. I am not back to NFNS,,,,,,,it is a tough commitment but, I am seriously thinking about it. No time to write at the moment as I need to get down to the pool and do my swim jog before I lose the motivation to do it.

Debbie M.
posted 11-Aug-2014 11:48am

I heard it said that 80% of all the processed food we have now has added sugar. I tend to believe it.

I recorded something on TV last night. It was a special on Downton Abby with Susan Serandon. (sp?) I told myself I could not watch it unless I was on my bike. So here I go. smile
Anonymous
posted 11-Aug-2014 2:11pm

What a reunion nice to hear your back all supporting the group and never giving up on yourselves. Annie
Connie
posted 11-Aug-2014 2:52pm

NFNS works for me. My stomach is feeling tighter...the beginning steps. When I wasn't eating NFNS, the weight came on very steady. I'm hoping it leaves in the same fashion! Time will tell. No snacking is big too. I feel like I've had my fill of junk and I don't want it anymore. Geez, I hope it stays that way.
Debbie M.
posted 11-Aug-2014 6:42pm

Me too Connie.
Connie
posted 11-Aug-2014 8:20pm

Tomorrow will be a test! I just found out my husband will be gone for 2 nights, the perfect time to be a complete slacker and eat for convenience instead of health. I have healthy options...that's the plan. I need to stay busy too, that helps.
Bronwyn
posted 11-Aug-2014 10:26pm

So many changes in life since we first started to write on this site and following each other's lives. Connie I didn't even know your daughter was married,,,, and, now your son as well. It is really different when all of your children are married. All of my children are married now as well.....my youngest got married last summer. I now have 5 grandchildren. Debbie is just starting into kids leaving the nest. I remember how hard it was the kids starting moving out, a big adjustment.

I have made some really big changes in my life ,,,,, except for getting on top of my weight problems frown Seven weeks ago we moved all the way across Canada to live in Montreal. We sold our home. The people who bought our home, just fell in love with everything and bought our furniture as well. We are going to be in Montreal for a year and a half. My husband is working on a project here. We went from a big home on an acreage to a small condo in the city. It is a huge change but, we love Montreal and we are having a great time. I do miss seeing seeing my grandchildren, and kids.

I am living in a bldg. with an indoor and outdoor pool and a gym. I have no excuse to not be exercising and, I am trying to be consistent with that . I now need to also get with a better eating program,,,,, get back to some of my better eating habits. Life been crazy for several months with work on the house, showing the house, selling it and packing. Then there was the big move. We have also been sampling all the great cuisine here,,,,,,,,,,ready to get serious.
Debbie M.
posted 11-Aug-2014 11:42pm

Connie I just saw your picture with your cat on myfitnesspal. Is that the pet that died? I know you have not been on in a long time but you are still on my friends list.

Kristin is living in HILO now. Isn't that amazing? I'll try to get her to visit here to catch up.
Bronwyn
posted 12-Aug-2014 12:06am

Does Kristin live in Hawaii? Debbie do you still log onto Myfitnesspal?
Connie
posted 12-Aug-2014 9:57am

Morning. 160.4 this morning.

The cat in my pic is not the one that died. But he is only 1 year younger, sooooo. My cat that died was my first cat. She was 15 and a large breed, but somewhat overweight. The one in the pic is a bit overweight too. So are my dogs. Do we have weight problems around here or what?

Bronwyn, wow...you moved! I always pictured your house in an idyllic country setting. What a change! Do you like it? I actually visited Montreal once years ago. I ate French onion soup in a fantastic restaurant, saw my first unisex bathroom, and watched Andre the giant pull a city bus down the street! It must have been around 1980.

My daughter is not married yet, they are planning the wedding for 2016. They want to have a huge event, so they have to save to add to the funds.

I went to ATC Fitness for a look around. Only 15 a month and no commitment. Should I, shouldn't I? Will I use it?
Debbie M.
posted 12-Aug-2014 10:27am

Yes, Kristin is living in Hawaii in Hilo. Her husband accepted a job offer they could not refuse. They weathered the storms ok last week.
I do still log onto myfitnesspal. Not that its doing me any good. I have not tracked calories in forever but when I did I lost weight. I just use their weight log right now. I watch it go up. frown I look at the familiar faces and try to get motivated.
Connie if you end up not using the membership, its a 15 dollar loss. No risk there. Give it a try. Start slow and build on that.
Sorry about your cat. I hope your other pets live for a long time to come still.

Still trying to process this information about Robin Williams. So sad. So permanent. So seelingly unnessesary. Depression is tough. Still, where there is life, there is hope.

I'm thinking about fasting today.
Coffee time. I'll drink it black till I decide about fasting.
Debbie M.
posted 12-Aug-2014 10:47am

I felt so fat yesterday. My knees hurt. My belly hung out. I just generally feel bloated.
Connie, I got another scale because the one at my docs office read 16 pounds heavier than the one at home. So I am basically at an all time high. Again.
Your weight is coming down again and I am so happy for you. I want to do it too. We should all make a great effort to come here and do the work and support each other while sliding down the scale.
Who is in?
Debbie M.
posted 12-Aug-2014 10:48am

Hi Annie, WHat have you been up to? Good to see you. smile
Connie
posted 12-Aug-2014 11:22am

The first thing I have to do is eat NFNS all the time. Even if I consume too many calories, I have to get back to eating right. I really think I can do that. Menu planning has to be a priority. The closest health food store is about 35 miles away, that does complicate things, but I can do this. I'm going to do this!
Debbie M.
posted 12-Aug-2014 11:26am

Super Connie!
Bronwyn
posted 12-Aug-2014 1:19pm

That is wonderful about Kristin. I wonder if Hawaii will be a better place for her daughter with R.A.,,,,,however, Southern California weather would not be too much different in warmth,I guess.

Connie that is so fun that you visited Montreal. It is such an amazing city. Your description sounds like my experience here,,,, so much going on. I know things will change in the fall and winter but, in the summer it is the city of outdoor festivals. Our little condo has a lovely view overlooking the St. Lawrence Seaway,,,,,,,,, huge ships go right past my window. It is also overlooking downtown and, this beautiful park. It is a totally different experience. I love the history,the beautiful historical bldgs,,,,,,,,,,,,there are bldgs. that were built in the 16, 17, 18 th century. You don't see that out west. There are lovely big squares all over down town with beautiful statues. Anyways, I am grateful for the opportunity to spend a little time here.

Deb, I am sorry about your knees. I can relate to that. I swam/jogged for 1 hour yesterday and walked a couple of miles last night. My knees were killing me last night,,,,,,,,I never slept the whole night, and then I felt so discouraged this morning. Have you considered knee surgery? I am wondering if that is the route to take. I have a friend who had knee surgery and, she has nothing good to say about it. She had a lot of problems. I had another friend who had it and is so thrilled with the results.

Hi Anne. Have you stayed on the NFNS wagon?

Last night we went grocery shopping and I got lots of good food. I at myself though for getting a box of those 100 calorie fudgesicles . Calorie wise they are decent,,,,,,,,,but ingredient wise they certainly don't fit in with no sugar.

Connie you are always such an inspiration,,,,,,,,,the way you dedicate yourself to the plan and, then are able to watch those scales move downsmile
Debbie M.
posted 12-Aug-2014 4:01pm

The crazy thing about my knees is they do not hurt if I am not on them. And when I am on them I have to take small planned purposeful steps to keep them in line. Sometimes I am in no pain at all even when I'm on them but when I go up the stairs they grind and I feel very old.
The weight would be the single nicest thing I could do for my knees. Plus it would make me feel light and much prettier. I think.
Bronwyn
posted 12-Aug-2014 5:07pm

Actually Deb, my knees just hurt all of the time,,,,, sitting, standing, lying down whatever. I decided to quit feeling sorry for myself and got my swimming suit on and went for an hour swim/jog. My knees didn't hurt any more or less by swimming, so why not. Did some trouble shooting on my headphones and now both sides are working smile I am not going to do the walk tonight though and, i hope to be able to sleep tonight.
Connie
posted 12-Aug-2014 6:54pm

What does the doc say about your knees?

I was a good girl and ate healthy today. I had to pick up one of the dogs from the groomers and drove past every fast food joint on the planet...twice!
Connie
posted 13-Aug-2014 9:37am

Morning ladies. 158.8 this morning...and feeling awesome!!!!!
Debbie M.
posted 13-Aug-2014 12:27pm

Glad you're feeling good Connie.

I on the other hand am so emotional. I can't stop crying. I know my daughter is going to be great in college but I'm a wreck right now trying to process the whole thing. We are packing today and driving her down there tomorrow. I don't know how I am going to survive it. I'm trying to literally pull her and her best friend apart to take her home. They need to say good bye so Rachel can get to the final stuff we need to do. Everyone is tearful.
I wish I could appeal to my logical side of myself and say things like: My goodness, what is all the fuss? Its not like she died or something. We will see her soon. We can call and skype.
I want her to be safe. I want her to be happy. I know this is a growing experience for her. SHe needs to learn how to take care of herself and develope. but I am so used to making sure everything is ok for her......and all my kids, really.
I wish I could find a way to be upbeat and positive when we move her in tomorrow and leave with a happy encouraging heart. LORD, I need you now! Help
Bronwyn
posted 13-Aug-2014 1:18pm

You are amazing Connie,,,, set your mind to it and bam smile A little jealous as my weight doesn't move quickly, I don't get as dramatic of scale victories frown I do feel some tightening in my stomach though like you talked about,,,, slight but a little.

Got on my water-proof i-pod and did a wonderful swim jog for 65 minutes,,,,,,,I love it. I am not a love to exercise kind of person,,,,,,but, this swim/ jog to music thing is something I really look forward to doing almost everyday (Monday to Friday mostly). I feel so energized that I would go for a walk.......alas it is raining and all the umbrella's are in the car with my husband at work.

Having a bowl of cottage cheese, an Egyptian mango, golden kiwi, strawberries and a sprinkle of hemp seed,,, yahoo, exercise and good food.

Connie I have arthritis in my knee but, I think there is some other damage as well. I also have an ankle full of plates and screws, that is why the water work out is good for me. Mind you I have never gotten into water exercise before because it is a hassle if you don't have a pool. I will be sad when we leave here and I don't have this wonderful access to a pool.

How is everyone doing today?
Connie
posted 13-Aug-2014 1:19pm

Oh Debbie, you are going to be sad for a bit, that's perfectly normal! Try to put yourself in your daughters shoes, imagine you are her and how excited you would be! So many opportunities for her, new wonderful things await. And be thankful she wants to do this. Tears of sadness and tears of joy all at the same time.
Bronwyn
posted 13-Aug-2014 1:21pm

Sorry Deb, I totally didn't see your post. I don't know exactly what to say to you but, I know how you feel and what you mean. I have been there and done that. It does get better but, don't expect it to ever be the same.
Bronwyn
posted 13-Aug-2014 1:57pm

The reason that I say,"don't expect it to ever be the same", is that it is discouraging and depressing if you expect that and it simply doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that the change isn't good........it is good, it is the progression of life from childhood into adulthood. Your relationship with your children changes as they grow up and, I think it is good to be prepared for that and even to embrace it and see it as a wonderful, positive thing. I have struggled with having the right attitude about change and growth......I am just starting to get it smile
Debbie M.
posted 13-Aug-2014 10:26pm

Thank you. I do have to embrace the change. Its going to happen even if I don't like it so I might as well make it joyful.

GO go go everyone.
K10
posted 13-Aug-2014 10:35pm

Hello Debbie, Bronwyn, and Connie. Debbie told me you were asking about me. I hope you are all well. It looks like I am not the only one who has moved. How exciting Bronwyn.
HI is nice other than the heat and humidity, I hate it. The community is nice.
My girls are well. R was accepted to the university, but she decided that she wants to drop out and work to save money to move back to CA. I am at peace with it.
K is doing well and she is still in remission. We actually went to the doctor yesterday and he feels that she doesn't need to be monitored as closely as she was. She is trying to decide if she is going to stay gluten free. K starts the junior college soon and she is working as well.
Hubby is working so much less and his benefits are better, so I think it has been worth the move.
I am still dealing with my weight, but I am off Pepsi again, it has been almost a month. Food is so expensive here. I need to do something about my health. If I think about no flour no sugar is probably cheaper. Bread and flour items are expensive. I just paid $5.09 for a gallon of milk today. It is $5.40 at Walmart.
Glad to see you all on here.
Connie
posted 14-Aug-2014 8:52am

Morning. 159.8 this morning. How did I gain a pound!!! Well, I'm just going to keep heading in the right direction and know it time it will come off.

Good to hear from you K10. I have kept up with you a bit on Facebook, although I don't visit that site as much as I should. I'm sad to hear about the humidity...my hair would be terrible there. And the grocery prices too. But what a beautiful place to live!

Everyone have a great day...and eat well because you deserve it.
Connie
posted 14-Aug-2014 2:01pm

Menu planning and grocery shopping done!
Connie
posted 14-Aug-2014 7:54pm

I may have ate too much at dinner tonight, I think I did last night too. Stayed NFNS so not feeling too guilty.
Bronwyn
posted 15-Aug-2014 2:32am

I am continuing to swim/jog and, I did a little walking today. Sadly though I am not doing great with my food intake.......I really need to get the two components of health combined here,,,,,,exercise and food. Really as far as losing weight it is more about food intake than exercise.

Connie I think daily weight will always slow some fluctuation in weight,,,,,, and isn't necessarily an indication that you over ate,,,,,,there is also salt and water intake to take into account.

Nice to hear from you K10,,,,,,,I can't believe your daughters are going off to College and moving and everything ,,,,,,,,, may they grow up fast, eh!

How you doing today Deb? Did you do okay with dropping your daughter off at school ,,,,,,,,,,? It will be better in a few days.
Debbie M.
posted 15-Aug-2014 10:12am

We got her settled into her room. Its cozy and comfy and the planning payed off. My 16 year old cried most of the way home. She is really going to miss her sister. She asked me why I was not crying. I think its because I have been tearful for a year and I know there is nothing I can do about it now. I need to get used to a new normal. The truth is I could cry at any second. I am going to keep busy and try not to think about it. She is going around with her room mate today and find all their classes. I really like her roomy Krista.
Lots to do around here today. I'm going to try to keep busy.
Connie
posted 15-Aug-2014 10:13am

160.2 this morning. Hmmm,. Still down overall, but a little frustrating. Staying NFNS, just takes time, probably more time as I age.

When our kids left, we had to adjust. It took us a while to settle into a routine with just each other. It does get better Debbie, hang in there.
Debbie M.
posted 15-Aug-2014 6:45pm

I still have three at home. 21, 16 and 14 year olds. So we are not empty nesters. But I know that is coming.
Keep it up Connie, you are doing great!
Karen
posted 17-Aug-2014 7:17am

147.2 good to see the reunion of old friends! Hoping to gain some motivation from you all.
Debbie M.
posted 17-Aug-2014 10:30pm

Karen! I hope you do too as well as me.
Bronwyn
posted 18-Aug-2014 11:42pm

Tonight I decided to record my calories for the day,,,,,,the end of the day recording isn't likely to be as accurate but, still it gave me an idea. It has been a long time since I kept track of calories. I knew I ate too much but, even at that I was surprised how many calories I had eaten. The truth is calories add up so quickly,,,,,,,,yikes frown I also recorded my exercise,,,,,, 60 minute swim jog and a 3 mile walk. I was still over calories with all of that exercise,,,,,,,,, and, the truth is my knees are killing me, I can't count on being able to do that much exercise daily. Bottom line I need to cut down on my calories. I think it is important to not let yourself be deceived into thinking calories don't matter,,,,,,,, and, that we can eat lots more because of exercise.

Anyone else counting calories?

Connie
posted 19-Aug-2014 1:24pm

I have noticed (in the past) that exercise makes me more hungry. I guess if your eating correctly it should balance out. I'm not weighing for a couple of days, I went way off track. We had a yard sale on Sat, lost control of my eating on Fri.

Yesterday I made Italian Meatloaf Roll w/Spinach from Sparkrecipes. I used a crumbled Ezekiel muffin for the breadcrumbs and used 2/3 ground turkey and 1/3 lean ground beef. It came out pretty good, just a bit on the dry side but I topped it with NS marinara sauce and that helped. We should get three dinners out of it.

Off to the dentist today...ugh!
Debbie M.
posted 19-Aug-2014 2:48pm

yup, calories matter. That is why I think a fasting day (5:2) is such a good program. It cleans out the blood and lowers your over all calorie total for the week. NBot that I'm doing it but I should.
Debbie M.
posted 19-Aug-2014 11:27pm

ANyone seen this on TV?


The End of Dieting
By Joel Fuhrman, M.D.
Bronwyn
posted 20-Aug-2014 2:54pm

I haven't read too much yet about, "The End of Dieting" but, this is what I gather so far: it is a diet. It seems that the popular thing to do now is try to "pretend" that the program you are promoting is not a diet. I certainly do believe that dieting has caused more problems than it has solved. The more I think about dieting and failing,,,,,,,, the more obsessed and unhappy I am. Anyways, I need to read more about this program,,,,,,, I read a couple of reviews and it seems like this program is pretty strict actually.
Debbie M.
posted 20-Aug-2014 5:01pm

I just started looking at it. The book is on its way from the library. they want you to do three things to start. Have a big leafy green salad with nuts or seeds everyday. Eat a bowl of their anti-cancer soup and eat a large plate of green steamed green veggies like broccoli, asparagus, Brussels sprouts or green bean for example. Also they said do not take folic acid. Get your foliate from kale and spinach and such because tectonically compound folic acid contributes to breast cancer. Also they say everyone has cancer cells in their body. They take a long time to grow and show symptoms and the macro nutrients you get kill them. So eat lots of veggie. Mushrooms and onions seem to be very important to killing cancer cells. That's all I learned so far.
You can goggle the anti cancer soup. Its on the net.
Debbie M.
posted 20-Aug-2014 6:27pm

I meant Chemically compounded folic acid
Kathy
posted 20-Aug-2014 8:51pm

I count calories when I start to gain weight. Watched my 3 1/2 month old grand daughter today. 9 - 5:00! My husband was home-but I am pretty exhausted. I'm trying to finish the Goldfinch, very long book. Lets see, I can eat part of an apple, and some almonds tonight. Plus, a couple of crackers.
Bronwyn
posted 20-Aug-2014 9:52pm

Hi Kathy. I will have to check out the Goldfinch......do you recommend it.

Deb, I checked out the soup,,,,, I think it would be pretty good, I am interested in what you think about the program once you get the book. I am going to read some more.
Debbie M.
posted 21-Aug-2014 11:58am

Did tyhe soup recipe you found call for 6 to 10 med zucchini, that sounds like a lot. DO you think it really mean 6 to 10 inch zucchini? I do not have a juicer, how can I subsitute? It calls to juice the carrots and celery. Would I cook them and then puree in my blender?
Bronwyn
posted 21-Aug-2014 12:25pm

Deb, I think the recipe must make a pretty big batch of soup. It also calls for 5 lbs. of carrots. I believe the recipe truly means 6 to 10 zucchini's. I have debated and debated getting a juicer,,,,,,if I get one though I want one that is easy to use and easy to clean. I had identified one that fit in with what I wanted in a juicer but, it is almost 400$. I just haven't been able to justify that,,,,,,,,,,I already had a very expensive juicer that I got rid of when I moved. I never used it because it was a pain to use. It was a twin gear juicer which is suppose to produce the healthiest juices. Anyways, to get to my point, I started to do some juicing in my blender, which is a vitamix. I blended kale, spinach, ginger, parsley, lemons and so forth and then strained them through my milk bag (for making almond milk). I wonder for soup if you would even have to strain them however,,,,,, not sure. Anyways, if I do make the soup I will make a smaller batch. It is annoying to make an enormous batch,,,,, not like it and waste it. It may only be me eating it as well.

I wonder if this program , which is touting itself as a "non-diet program",is going to be so restrictive that it is impossible to do. It sounds like he is very anti-fat,,,,,, even avocados and so forth should be limited. I wonder what kind of dressing he puts on those enormous salads that you are to eat daily.........I am going to see if I can find a salad dressing recipe. It has to be yummy.......I am all for healthy eating but, not eating things that have no appeal.

I feel so discouraged when I stand on the scales,,,, and they aren't moving. I am cutting back on intake and I am also getting some decent exercise, but no results.
Kathy
posted 21-Aug-2014 2:03pm

From what I've heard and read, if you build muscle, it will increase your metabolism. I've been trying the nautilus machines at my health club, just pretty light weight because I don't want to injure anything. I only have time to go there twice a week. I only do a few of the machines, not the whole circuit, about three for legs and three for arms and shoulder, one for abdominal muscles. (The shoulder machine targets some back muscles, and anyway my back muscles are sensitive to heavy lifting (or any lifting!). I don't notice any difference, but in the future it might prevent any further over -accumulation of fat .
Debbie M.
posted 21-Aug-2014 2:46pm

So you think my regular blender should be ok? Should I cook steam them and then put them in the blender? I'm making the soup right now. I think it is such a large recipe because you are suppose to eat it everyday. ALl I am doing right now is the three things. I haqve not even read the book. I'm not going to restrict anything right now. Just add in the good stuff. I am aiming at reducing brain fog.
I could not find the beans so I got navy instead and split pea.
Debbie M.
posted 21-Aug-2014 3:01pm

And what about that celery. Do you think its 2 whole bunches of celery? Again no juicer. Steam and take out the strings and blend in blender?
Debbie M.
posted 21-Aug-2014 3:09pm

And how many inches of the leeks do you use? The stems are very long. Bronwyn, I NEEEED you. smile
Bronwyn
posted 21-Aug-2014 3:31pm

Deb, I could blend those raw in my vitamix but, I have no idea about a regular blender,,,,,, I simply don't know. Even with the vitamix I would have to add water to blend. Deb, I like the approach of adding in the good instead of gung-ho do everything off the bat,,,,, that usually leads to a big FAIL for me frown So I am good with trying out the soup daily,,,,, a huge green salad and, I will have to check what you are referring to for the 3rd thing.

I use mostly the white part of the leek,,,,,,, I don't really know because I seldom use leek. My husband never likes things I put leeks in. You need to be careful with leeks to get all the grit out.......wash well.

I know celery even clogs up a juicer,,,,,,,, not sure about how to handle 2 whole bunches.

Deb,,,,, please report on how the soup turned out......anxious to hear smile

Kathy you are right about doing things for the potential benefit instead of focusing so much on the immediate. Good for you doing the weight training. I have an exercise room here that I need to check out.
Debbie M.
posted 21-Aug-2014 5:20pm

Ok, so cooking the soup I had to do what you said and add water to what I was blending. It did not ruin the end results, its still very thick like a cream soup. And yes, it does make a lot. I used 3 pounds of carrots and only one bunch of celery. 2 bunches of Kale. I am worried about using it all up. Maybe I will freeze some and put it in fruit smoothies. I used Mrs. Dash. I could not find the seasoning he has in his name. I can tell you right now my kids are not going to like it. I'm not loving it but I really want to eat it. There are so many good things in it. I did not use the navy beans.
OK, so I ate a bowl but could not finish it. It looks like a swamp. Hmmmm, I'm going to have to figure out how to use this stuff up. Shame.
Bronwyn
posted 21-Aug-2014 5:45pm

Shoot.... What about spicing it up, is it super bland?
Bronwyn
posted 21-Aug-2014 8:11pm

just read this review on the soup:
inedible. no flavor. i call it a soup base, not a soup. Recipe makes about 2 gallons of gray green puree. I'm going to try and salvage it by turning it into an Indian style recipe -- I'm thinking Saag Paneer or Lentil curry. Otherwise, this is a total waste. Lots of trouble to make, expensive and you gotta have a big juicer to get all that juice. You may believe you'll live 200 years if you eat this soup, as the recipe is written, but I say it will just seem like it.

seems like this fits with your experience,,,,,,,,,, for pete sakes this kind of thing is annoying,,,,,,,,,I am not going to be feel satisfaction with eating something to almost have to hold your nose and wear a blind fold to eat frown
Debbie M.
posted 21-Aug-2014 9:52pm

I put it in a few sandwich size zip lock bags, and some in 2 gallon size zip locks and some in 2 ice cub trays. I thought the small ones I could pop out into a gal size baggie and use the convienient size for fruit smoothies. When I went out and came back in I could smell the soup. The family said it smelled good but after eating some I didnt think so. The ingrediants for this soup cost me 30 dollars. It would be hard to waste. Maybe some in a meat loaf or spaghetti sauce? Yes, as a base for ????????? heh, a better soup.

I'm still going to try to get in the leafy green salad with nuts or seeds. I'm using Ranch dressing. And a big plate of steamed green veggies like asparagus or green bean or broccoli or well you get the idea. And a green smoothie.
frown
Bronwyn
posted 21-Aug-2014 10:53pm

Deb, I honestly think this soup made in a totally dinner way has some promise. Thinking about it.,,,,,,,,that much celery is nuts, celery has a definite taste and would be too strong. I think you could in the future make a very tasty vegetable soup with herbs and spices and then, chiffonade kale and stir in at the end (so it wasn't just goopy green stuff) and then drizzle some cashew cream over the top. I think the soup should not be all blended together......nicer with some texture and more flavour with spices and herbs.
Bronwyn
posted 21-Aug-2014 10:57pm

Deb that is so annoying though to have spent 30 bucks on something you don't want to eat. Next week I am going to make a version of this soup with changes that I think will make it a much better soup. I think a healthy, hearty soup is a good way to fill up and get a nutrient boost to your day.
Debbie M.
posted 21-Aug-2014 11:01pm

Yes, I agree. I hope you can make it work. I bet you can. I am still going to see if I can chip away at it for smoothies.
Bronwyn
posted 22-Aug-2014 11:43am

Another thing I got rid of when I moved was my dehydrator . I want to make some zucchini chips and some kale chips,,,, Maybe I will try it in the oven.

Deb, do you do any knee strengthening exercises? I am getting back into doing that,,,, my knee has been giving me a lot of trouble. My landlord lives in the same complex I do,,,,, he is an orthopaedic surgeon (semi_retired), he examined my knee and is really recommending that I do exercises for my knee. I thought I had water on my one knee because it swells so much,,,, he said I don't. Do you have water on your knee?
Bronwyn
posted 22-Aug-2014 11:43am

Hey Connie, how are you doing?
Debbie M.
posted 22-Aug-2014 2:42pm

No water on the knee. Sit on the floor, legs out in front of you straight. Now try to touch the cieling with your toes.

Also along those lines, sit in a chair with legs out straight and hang your purse or something of a little weight on you ankles. With very small movements make your feet go up and down towards the cieling. This is a flex all around the knee muscles just like the one while sitting on the floor, just with a little more weight to it. Do this multiple times, several times through out the day. Remember these are very small movements to flex the muscles around the knees without a lot of movement in the knees.

I hope this is clear. Any questions? Also, my doc said years ago bike riding was good for my knees. Hard bike riding, not the kind where you coast most of the time. smile
Debbie M.
posted 22-Aug-2014 2:48pm

I bet it would be hard for your doc to give a definitive diagnosis with out an MRI. My doc, years ago, did an MRI and discovered what could not be detected on an X-ray. Then he did exploratory surgery to ultimately find what he thought was the problem. Complete tears of my ACL and torn meniscus. I have both these things in both my knees. I don't have the kind of pain you do thankfully. But I am always at risk for new injuries due to instability of my knees. And stairs are terrible.
Let me know how the exercises go for you. I hope they are not painful.
No squatting. EVER
Bronwyn
posted 23-Aug-2014 6:41am

Deb, I have to agree with you that it was not a very good examination.......seriously, I thought he came to some quick conclusions myself. I do think exercising is the key for strengthening my knee. I know that weakness / or tightness and lack of flexibility in other areas like my quads and so forth are a problem. There are a couple of exercises that I can hardly do because my thighs/quad muscles cramp severely. Those areas are way too tight.

Deb following up on your soup experience, I think food should be both nutritious and delicious. I am not going to get my husband on board with eating that kind of thing (the soup) and, I am not going to enjoy it. I think the idea is to get way more vegetables and greens into the daily diet.........but, it should be good and yummy as well. I love salads,,,,,,, but, yummy salads can also add up quickly in calories. I think having a hearty yummy soup and salad fixings on the go all the time is the direction I am going to head.

Well I am up early here this morning. I think I will do some exercises.
Debbie M.
posted 23-Aug-2014 9:35am

I agree about the food.
B, Do you ever stretch your leg muscles?
I'm off to my daughters soccer game. I'm working in the concession stand. My obligation for the season will be over then. yey!
Kathy
posted 23-Aug-2014 8:04pm

I love tuna salad for lunch. (my husband-not so much) It's satisfying and helps keep weight off. Guess I'll be thinking about more soup recipes -tis the season, if I can convince myself it's not too much work - I don't love being in the kitchen a long time- especially cooking for 2! We have a recipe in my husband's family called Harvest Soup that tastes good. It uses ground beef, some cubed potatoes, and broth, and a lot of veggies.
Debbie M.
posted 25-Aug-2014 10:47am

I smell the soup I cooked that is terrible everytime I open the fridge or freeezer door. I have not tried it in a smoothie yet. I need to so I can throw the whole thing out if I don't like it. I have a lot of it frozen in cubes so I can just grab one cube and put it in the blender. I might have to force myself to to it today.
Debbie M.
posted 25-Aug-2014 10:59am

I cannot believe it but I like my smoothie with the soup in it!!!!!! I will be eating it. I sitll don't believe it. I used greek yogurt a banana, frozen strawberries and a cube of the frozen soup. Its actually good.
Debbie M.
posted 26-Aug-2014 8:06am

Did you try the exercises?
Bronwyn
posted 26-Aug-2014 10:30am

Deb, I have incorporated your exercises into the ones I am also doing. That is great that you can use your soup in another way that you can actaully enjoy. Need to get swimming here before too much of the day passes by and I don't make it. Yesterday I kept doing other things first,,,,,,, and then never made it to the pool.
Debbie M.
posted 26-Aug-2014 1:20pm

Good for you, go go go!
Debbie M.
posted 26-Aug-2014 1:22pm

Do any of you get these radio programs?9:30AM
Focus On The Family
BreakPoint
Insight for Living
Turning Point
Revive Our Hearts
These shows can be heard online too.
I hear them on WFRN 104.7FM on week day mornings. smile

Debbie M.
posted 26-Aug-2014 1:23pm

ooops didnt mean to write 9:30 AM
Bronwyn
posted 27-Aug-2014 12:06pm

Debbie I don't really listen to the radio during the day much at all. I often listen to talks and podcasts or that kind of thing on my I-pad. I listen to music in the car but, I actually don't listen to that much radio.

Recorded my breakfast on MFP,,,,, over 500 calories,,,,,,,man they do add up quickly. I am going away this week-end so it will be harder to record (eating out is hard to count calories and we do too much of that). I have only counted calories about twice in months and months,,,, but, I do need to step up my game here.
Debbie M.
posted 27-Aug-2014 1:14pm

I think they can be downloaded to podcasts.
Have fun this weekend. What will you be enjoying? I'm thinking family and grandkids?
Bronwyn
posted 28-Aug-2014 12:12am

Deb, my kids and grandkids live almost 4,000 kilometres from where i am presently living. i won't be seeing them for a while. We are driving up to Vermont,,,,,,short drive. What are you up to for the week-end?

i am just sitting here icing my knee before i go to bed.
Debbie M.
posted 28-Aug-2014 2:34am

I knew your kids were far away. I was just hopeful thinking for you. Maybe you'd fly to see them at some point. I hope you have a nice time in Vermont. I hear its beautiful! I have always had a dream to take a bicycling tour there. But I'm afraid with the unpredictable knees I have, that ship has sailed for me. frown

Sorry about your painful knees. Boy I wish we had better knees!!!!

I have the weekend off. I would love to see Rachel down at school but it might be too early for that. Maybe a boat ride at the lake house. My nephew said he would like to have a Hawaiian party there. We could cook up some fun things.

I do work Friday evening just 5 to 9 and then again Monday, as its my holiday to work 3:30 to 11. Still, I have Sat and Sunday off. The neighbor has a "meet the baby" party on Sat as they had a new addition last month. If it dosn't rain maybe the beach? Just don't know. Anything is possible.

Have fun.
Debbie M.
posted 1-Sep-2014 2:02pm

Easy Crock Pot Potato Soup

Ingredients:
1 30oz. bag of frozen diced hash browns
1 32 oz box of chicken broth
1 can of cream of chicken soup (10 oz)
1 pkg. cream cheese (8 oz, not fat free)
3 oz bacon bits
1 cup shredded cheddar cheese
salt and pepper to taste

Directions:
Put the potatoes in the crockpot. Add in the chicken broth, cream of chicken soup and half of the bacon bits. Add a pinch of salt and pepper.
Cook on low for 8 hours or until potatoes are tender.
An hour before serving, cut the cream cheese into small cubes. Place the cubes in the crock pot. Mix a few times throughout the hour before serving.
Once the cream cheese is completely mixed in, it's ready to serve.
Top with cheddar cheese and some additional bacon bits.

I made this in the crock pot in 4 hours on high. My family loved it.
kathy
posted 1-Sep-2014 9:29pm

Bronwyn,where did you go in Vermont. Burlington?
Bronwyn
posted 2-Sep-2014 5:20am

Yes Kathy, we went to Burlington and Shelburne. We had a lot of fun. Do you live close to Burlington?
Debbie M.
posted 5-Sep-2014 8:35am

My husband and I went to my mom and dad's house last night to see their new furniture. As we were all enjoying the new reclining features my mom took and camera and takes a picture of me and my husband. She took a look at the picture she just took and said "Oh look, you look like you are two hundred pounds in this picture. See?"
Anonymous
posted 6-Sep-2014 12:37pm

ND VS MI today smile
Bronwyn
posted 7-Sep-2014 1:43am

Sorry Deb, that had to really hurt frown
Debbie M.
posted 8-Sep-2014 9:21am

Would you say that to your daughter? The truth is I am over two hundred pounds, so do I really have the right to have hurt feelings?

Well that aside, I had a funny thought today when I heard the news of Kate being pregnant again. What if I took the next 7 months, the time that she has left in her pregnancy, to watch her get bigger and bigger. At the same time I could be getting smaller and smaller. smile Then right before delivery, I would look slim and she would look fat!! lol ~Until she delivered, then 10 minutes later she would be slim again. But we would both be slim. lol

It seems like the prefect time to reeeecommmmmitttttt because I'm so fat, Kate is pregnant, and its a Monday. Don't people usually start their diets on Monday?

Heh, have a happy day everyone. smile
Bronwyn
posted 8-Sep-2014 11:42pm

Deb, it isn't about what you weigh it is about your Mum making insensitive and unkind comments. You are well aware of what you weigh and her comment was unkind. However, if you weigh more than she thought, then take it as a compliment and decide to make lemonade out of lemons smile

I would never plan to have a competition with a princess, ha, ha smile,,,,,,,
Debbie M.
posted 9-Sep-2014 11:54am

good advice smile
ANNIE
posted 10-Sep-2014 7:54pm

Hi All ,I too am at a lost on how to lose this weight. I really want to but excuses made me have a bigger caboose. Ha. What are you following , and what really works. I sometimes think we want the comfort of the food more then the weight lose, of course that only lasts until you have taken the last bite. Then comes the guilt and why did I eat that. Well I think you need to make up a contract ,sign it and no more excuses just a type of fine or something that you have to do you don`t like much. Just an idea. The main thing is to eat healthy 90% of the time. My friend fell of the wagon and she trying again she said its hard to stop eating when your full so she wait for 10 minutes and the feeling goes away. it helps her. I just reporting in ,missed you all ANNIE Deb M knowing you can lose that weight if you set your mind to it and you will AND SO WILL THE REST OF US SO LETS DO IT. AMEN
ANNIE
posted 10-Sep-2014 7:58pm

I meant I`m reporting in ,read my mistake. ANNIE
Debbie M.
posted 10-Sep-2014 11:03pm

Thanks Annie. I am a pitiful site. I am at an all time high weight right now. Not just as high as I have been but higher than ever. I can't even type it. Thank you for the tips. My summer has been so stressful and I let myself get out of control. No more excuses for me. I need to get serious because my health counts on it. I don't want to be this person I have become. When you said "I think we want the food more than I want to be thin." I think you have something there. It must be the truth or we would actually change. But like you said, the comfort only lasts till the last bite. Then, we are back where we started and mad at ourselves because of what we did, again. My brother told me I am a mystery. HE said I told about weight all the time but I never do anything about it. ITs true. Why why why?

I really do need to talk about it. It does help me to have focus and feed back from others. I'm sure it is tedious after all these years on here to see me telling the same story different month and never see results. I'm sorry for being such a bore in that way. I want to change. But just how much do I want it?
ANNIE
posted 11-Sep-2014 9:26am

Our problem we want it now and that's not how we got the weight on. It came from filling our tank over full everyday. Also, life got in the way and created this problem. If we could change are mindset about food and use it for fuel or energy to do the things we do it would be a start on recovery. My little grandson never gets hungry and when he does he only eats a little he is 6 years old. Food is just something to keep him alive. So lets change our mindset one day at a time Deb M. GOD BLESS ANNIE Also 1400 calories a day is not much to worry about for are fuel to succeed for now.
Debbie M.
posted 11-Sep-2014 10:45am

I remember as a child I was bothered to stop playing and have to eat. Things changed somewhere along the way. I'd like to get back to that mind set.
Kathy
posted 12-Sep-2014 12:46pm

Bronwyn, I live in Massachusetts, the southern border of the state, so I'm not close to Burlington. I've been there before.
I just got some super nutty granola to put in my plain Greek yogurt for breakfast. Also just got some large curd cottage cheese, that is not low fat. I'm tired of the low fat cottage cheese. We are in Rhode Island for the weekend, and tend to eat our evening meals out. I had a salad with goat cheese, walnuts, and cranberries, with delicious Grilled shrimp last night. And will have fish, sweet potato, and vegetable tonight. Chicken Noodle soup for lunch. Noodles have flour, but I can't always be NFNS.

Debbie, I think we are born with certain body types, even if we were thin when we were young. Both my mother and I were thin when young, and by middle age - Not Thin! Just do the best you can. I know I snack often, just plan on having an apple, or some carrots with cottage cheese. You can get back on track. It will just take a few days. You track calories on my fitness pal don't you?
Kathy
posted 12-Sep-2014 8:45pm

I have really lost my exercise habit because of time spent babysitting. I'm going to start by walking fifteen minutes in the morning, and fifteen minutes in the afternoon.
Kathy
posted 12-Sep-2014 9:10pm

I just read a Livestrong article ,for people over 65, (I'm not there yet!), to lose weight they need to take in only 1200 calories a day. I thought 1500 was good. Wonder if I could exist on 1200 calories a day! Guess I'll start ASAP.
Bronwyn
posted 13-Sep-2014 5:45pm

Kathy, I am so confused about calories. Well, not confused about calories but, confused about how many I should eat. There is so much controversy over the 1200 calorie diet. Yes, it may be good for losing but, then do you lower your metabolism and lose muscle mass and find yourself in worse shape than you started in the fact, that you now can eat very few calories without gaining weight. According to a few sites I have put my data into,,,,weight/height/age and so forth,,,,,,,,I am told that I can lose weight eating 1450 to 1650. I am so out of the loop for such a long time with calorie counting that I am having a hard time getting back at it. We have been eating out too much,,,,,,hard to count calories when you eat out. I want to quit eating out so much, get back to counting calories, and continue with my swimming (swim/jog). I have had company this week and only swam about 3 days this week,,,,,,,,I don't want to start to slack on that. Bottom line,,,,,,, I am exercising more but, eating too much. I want to pull exercise together with better eating. Calorie counting takes a lot of discipline,,,,,,,,,,I need to get that discipline back into my life because the only time that I have lost weight is when I have counted calories. Studies show that exercise is good for you physically,,,,, but, weight loss is mostly about calories.
ANNIE
posted 15-Sep-2014 3:53pm

Just want to no what plan you girls are on now. I have tried most of them with some success for awhile. I no someone has the answer if its combining two or more diet plans which may work for a life plan. Thought I would put that out there we may have a professional reading this with some expert advice for us all. ANNIE An not wiring are jaws together. Although, it might work but only for awhile.
Debbie M.
posted 15-Sep-2014 8:10pm

I know exactly what works ANNIE. It's counting calories and not going over the set amount, each and every day. I have always lost weight like that. EVERY single time. The trouble is that it is a lot of work and I get lazy and stop doing it. But it does work.

I really need to get it together and just do the work.
ANNIE
posted 16-Sep-2014 7:26pm

Deb, I guess that`s what it comes down to. So lets start counting calories and if we go over try to burn it off with walking or what ever you can do to see those pounds off. Next summer I want this weight off. ANNIE Never give up just keep trying.
Debbie M.
posted 16-Sep-2014 7:42pm

OOOOh yes!!! I need to and want to. My weight skyrocketed lately and its been staying there.

I visited my daughter in college this last weekend and it was so good to see her. Kids sure are hard to let go.
ANNIE
posted 17-Sep-2014 10:01am

Do you watch the flour and sugar when counting calories? I have try so many diets and been told to not eat this it gets so screwed up you don't do anything. Dr. Oz says eat the same breakfast and lunch everyday and have a reasonable dinner. Could work. I would have 3 different breakfasts and lunches to choose from no the calorie count and stick to that for awhile everyday. You wouldn't have to count those calories because you would no them. Drink water with sugarless drink in it. Pick 6 different snack and pick 2 or3 for the day and have them handy never letting your blood sugar get so low you would really need to eat and if you do its because you have a bad habit that needs to be stopped, and the sooner the better. IF I DO THIS DAILY I BELIEVE IT WOULD WORK. Just an idea. Also, get a hobby and enjoy it. Have a blessed day ANNIE This was to DEB M and anyone who might help us succeed on our struggles with weight. AMEN.
Debbie M.
posted 17-Sep-2014 4:21pm

These are brilliant plannes. I do think this would be a great start. Also picking things lower in simple carbs and lower in sugar will go a long way to helping you not feel as hungry. I have done the totally no flour no sugar in the past and I did well on it. But I'm not sure its totally nessessary. I'm going to try your ideas for simplicity. Thanks!

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