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No Flour, No Sugar Diet
SummaryDr. Gott's No Flour, No Sugar Diet presents a simple, straight-forward way to lose weight and keep it off for a lifetime. All you need do is eliminate flour and sugar from your diet. DescriptionThis diet book contains common-sense techniques on how to eat better and achieve a healthier lifestyle. It gets you to focus on foods that are nutritional and satisfying. Thus, you can both lose weight and become healthier in the process. You can eat brown rice, lean meats, low-fat dairy products, fruits and vegetables. But, you have to stop eating foods like bagels, pasta, bread, cereal, white rice, cookies, sweets, and cakes. Many excellent recipes are included in the book with have no flour and sugar, yet taste delicious. The approach is to keep things simple by just eliminating flour and sugar, the two primary food ingredients that are causing the obesity problem in America. Our culture has become addicted to sweets. This book helps you break the addiction and get on track for eating healthier while losing that extra weight. HistoryDr. Gott is a medical columnist published in over 350 newspaper daily. He is a practicing physician with a general practice in Connecticut. He's also the director of medicine at Hotchkiss School (a prep-school). CriticismGiving up bread and sweets may simply be too hard for some people. Sugar is in a great majority of products sold today. While the diet sounds simple, implementing it and sticking to it is quiet a challenge. Tags: glycemic-index low-calorie low-carb low-fat no-sweets simple Related Diets: Cambridge Diet Cabbage Soup Diet No-S Diet South Beach Diet Fat Smash Diet |
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| Debster | posted 15-Dec-2008 12:55am Hilda, Hi....while I was writing my post you were posting....great idea....I will use this tasteless Ezekiel bread and make a pizza out of it.....Thanks for the idea...Goodnight! |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Dec-2008 1:44am Connie if you are asking me how many people I cook for, I cook for my Mum, husband, youngest son who leaves home for university after Christmas and myself. Then of course I have other kids who are here sometimes. I don't cook special meals for anyone I don't think there is any need to do that......I make real food and that is what we eat. I have said many times that I need to keep a journal of what I eat.....now I need to actually do that. The "overfed head" thinks that is a very good visual of what you are eating and how you feel about it. Of course many others suggest keeping a food journal as well. Debster sorry you don't like the Ezekial bread,,,,,,we all seem to quite like it here. I think it is really good with a little light cream cheese and some sugar free apple sauce and sprinkled with cinnamon (the bread being the cinnamon and raisin one). Actually the ezekial buns would be perfect for little pizza's......good idea Hilda. I also got Ezxekail wraps. Well I think I will go to bed and read for a while......after all it is almost midnight. I hate going to bed because no matter how tired I am it seems I can't sleep. It is like minus 30 here........brrr......with the wind chill factored in even colder but it will change in the next day or two,,,,I sure hope. We don't have much weather that cold and we get a lot of chinooks so the cold never stays that long. |
| Connie | posted 15-Dec-2008 1:49am It's 12:30 am and I am up, for the second time tonight. This time, I had to tinkle, so I woke up enough to be aware of what is going on. Tonight I fell asleep about 8:30. Couldn't keep my eyes open. Then, up at 11:30. Walked around. I don't have anything sugary or starchy in the kitchen, so I went back to bed pretty quickly. That was 3 hrs of non stop sleep. Very good for me. Then, I hour sleep and up again. I will probably get up 2 or 3 more times. It happens every night. As far as I know, it's just called sleep eating. I don't set out healthy food, I just try and not at all. Ok, back to sleep now. Night |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Dec-2008 2:27am Connie I just googled ,,,,, sleep eating disorder.....that is really interesting. I had never hear of it before. I have enough trouble with eating too much when I am awake.....I would be in real trouble if I ate while I was asleep as well  It sounds like there are meds that may help....have you tried those at all????good night all..... |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Dec-2008 7:37am Ita funny you all mention the ezeckial muffin pizzas. My husband just made a big batch of the regular version of these over the weekend and made some special ones for me on the Ezek muffins. It was delicious. I put a big slice of tomato on the very top! Yum!! Congrats on your 1.2 pounds Debster. I am so happy about that. One step behind you! 194.5 |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Dec-2008 7:50am Oh by the way Debster, In regaurds to the gastric bypass surgery. The patient has to be 100% committed to that idea in order for them to be successful with it. My husband had it done almost 5 years ago. He lost 150 pounds in under a year and has kept it off. He said he did everything his surgeon recommended because if it failed he did not want to be the reason. It was an intense experience for both of us. I helped him as much as I could thru the whole process. It was extermely emotional. The patient must have family suppoet. This surgery is not for everyone. Would he do it over again? In a heart beat. But there are other ways to lose. Like NF/NS. |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Dec-2008 7:53am The only thing in the french onion soup you can't have it the slice of bread or croutons under the cheese. I just scoop it out.Or you could ask that it be left out. |
| Debster | posted 15-Dec-2008 8:30am Hi Everyone....how come I am the only one who thinks the Ezk bread is horrible???? I am going to look at my loaf and try to find out. My daughter picked it up for me. It was frozen when I got it. Is that how yours comes? I think it says "low-sodium" on the front. I am going to check this out....maybe I got some different kind. My husband had a chicken salad sandwich on it and he said it was very good....but then again my chiken salad is very good (ha, ha). When I ate it I just put a little butter on it and ate it plain. Debbie M, Congrats to your husband. See....this is the kind of success story that my gyn is talking about but I am scared to death. I give your husband a lot of credit for having the motivation to do it and stick to it. That weight loss is fantastic...but more importantly...the fact that he is keeping it off. You are right though, a person has to be 100% committed and have family support. I think I definitely want to try some French Onion Soup....hold the bread and croutons....see how my mind works? Connie, good morning to you....how do those Christmas decorations look? Bronwyn, are you over your flu now? I feel like I am getting a cold....scratchy throat too. Hilda, I am trying the pizza on my bread today....maybe I will venture out and buy the muffins. If you all like them...something must be wrong with me. See ya! |
| Connie | posted 15-Dec-2008 8:39am Morning gang. Not feeling too bad this morning. Got up a couple of times after my late night post, but went back to sleep after walking a bit. I remember parts of it. Bronwyn, I googled sleep eating as well. That was one depressing read! But, it fits. Mine started when I had my hysterectomy. That was about 10 years ago. I woke up in recovery as if my eye lids were spring loaded. My whole body was in an extreme revved up state and I was totally anxious and uncomfortable. That state didn't go away. I couldn't sleep at all. Every 24 hours I would nod off for maybe 20 min. When I closed my eyes, it looked like fireworks constantly. I remember being in church and bowing my head for prayer, but not closing my eyes. I couldn't do it. They wouldn't relax enough to shut. My pain meds hide much of the symptoms, but when I quit taking them, I was a wreck. My husband took me back to the doctor. My doc didn't want me to take HRT, I think because of the bad press. So, I lived like that for a year. I became agoraphobic, severely depressed and sleep deprived. I cried all the time. I couldn't do anything. Finally, my mom came and said I needed hormones. She said women used to be institutionalized because of lack of hormones. And so I switched doctors and began my recovery. First hormones and then an antidepressant. It took a long time, maybe 3 years to find an antidepressant I could tolerate. Most of them made me feel more anxious, but we did eventually find one and I am now much, much better. But it was in that 3 year period that I began sleep eating. I just think it was a byproduct of the stress my body was under. I gained 50 lbs. I was just 40 and had no estrogen! I lost 5 years of my life going through that. The stress on my family was unbelievable. I couldn't drive or leave my house by myself. Anyone that wanted me to work for them came and picked me up. Of course they all were like family and helped me as much as they could, but it was so embarrassing. Before that, I was the mom on the go, in charge and top of everything. My kids had to take care of me. That got old after awhile, but really they did the best they could. Maybe watching me deteriorate like that brought us closer. I don't know. My son is pretty protective, but Miss Holly may have some negative feelings that she can't shake. Jerry wanted to drop me off at a mental hospital. But I knew I could get better, that it was because of the hormones. I learned we have to be our own advocates. Ultimately, I think the anxiety disorder that runs in my family made the lack of hormones a nightmare. It doesn't matter if I'm full or not when I go to bed, this is now a pattern I have to deal with. Debster, I don't know what to think about surgery. For me, I would rather find a different way, but I would never try to influence another. So many people have done it successfully, and then there are those who have had so many problems. What about the band one? The one that can be adjusted? I guess if I were honest and in your shoes I would seriously consider it. But so far you are doing great on NFNS, so rock on with that for awhile and see what wonderful things happen. Debbie, I once had french onion soup in Quebec. Yummy stuff. I wouldn't worry about sodium, unless you have high blood pressure. Really, just worry about F&S for now, that's enough. It's been 10 years, but I do remember the monthly swelling. I think it would be hard to gauge weight loss during that time. In fact, I would probably take 3 days off a month from weigh ins. Weighed in this morning at 149.6. If I had ate last night, that number would probably be up by 2 or 3 lbs. I checked the weather this morning and we are supposed to get ice tonight. Egads!!! I have to drive Jerry in the morning. That should be fun. Everyone, say a prayer for me! I'm serious. Bad roads and me don't mix. Snow, fine....ice, bad! Today is the day I decorate! I hope. Later |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Dec-2008 9:46am I really toiled with commenting on the weight loss surgery issue. I do not want to influence anyone either. But because you mentioned it Dester, I thought I should tell what experience we have had here at my house. The Ezek bread that I like the best is the cinnamon raisin bread. Debster, make sure you keep the bread frozen and only take out a slice at a time. It has no preservatives in it and is very unstable. I always toast mine. I sort of have a freshness issue. We are icy here too, but no power loss like those poor folks in the East. It went from a very preasant 46 to 20 in about two hours this morning. Everything froze. I have to tell you about the fun day I had with my family yesterday. We traveled an hour east to a State park. They have a refrigerated tobagan run that is a quarter mile long. You can get 4 people on one tobagan. I would drop the family off at the launch. They would climb the 60 steps to the top of the 30 tower. And off they would go! I drove to the end of the slide where we would put the tobagan into the back of the truck and drive back to the launch again. It was in the 40's and no lines! I took a couple turns myself and we clocked our hights speed at 36 miles per hour. The record for another has been 41 in the past. It really was a great way to spend an afternoon with your family. They did this for an hour and a half and it only cost $15.00. They also had a nice warming center where you could get hot chocolate and promtly burn your tonge, as my olderst and youngest did. We have camped at Pocagon State Park before in the summer time and watched fireworks over the lake. It really is a nice park. My son is home with me this morning. He has bouts of bowel trouble sometimes. We have had him to a pediactric gastrointerologist with no clear results. The problems come and go due to emotional turmoil, I think. He is behind on his homework so I think this is at the root of his problem this time. Later |
| Anonymous | posted 15-Dec-2008 11:44am Hello everyone- I had a Christmas party at home last night. Everyone dish and dessert was from the No Flour No sugar cookbook. My guests did not even know I was serving NFNS dishes. |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Dec-2008 12:28pm Awesome! Thats the way to do it. I served a total adkins buffet one time and my friend commented on it being the best food ever. |
| Connie | posted 15-Dec-2008 4:01pm I tried to find Ezec bread here in Millington today. No luck. I couldn't find rice pasta either. Such a pain to have to travel for groceries. If you have never tried a 'Chicago pizza," don't discount it. I don't know if the recipe will work without flour, but they are really good. I finally got the decorations out of the attic. Step one...completed. |
| Hilda | posted 15-Dec-2008 4:33pm I like the orange packaged Ezekiel bread the best. I also toast it. I am now hooked on the English muffins and like them even better. I wasn't that impressed with the cinnamon raisin ones, but will try them with cream cheese and more cinnamon. I looked at the rice cakes yesterday and couldn't decide what flavor to try.What do you put on them? |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Dec-2008 4:42pm Wow Connie you have been through so much.....I am sorry you had to do all of that. I had a surgery a few years ago to remove a growth which turned out to be benign....thankfully, but as a result I ended up with a bit of a prolapse. It was suggested that I have a hysterectomy and I declined as I didn't think it was enough of a reason to have such major surgery. After your story I am glad that I stuck to my guns....I don't do any surgery I can avoid....certainly not elective. I guess that is a big reason I wouldn't do the gastric bypass but that is me.....my brother did it and he has had great success. He was really struggling with his diabetes and he is now off all of his meds. He has lost lots of weight. Debbie M.....good call about mentioning toasting the ezekial as it really isn't good unless you toast it. I think it could be successful though as the bread toasted and floated in your onion soup...that sounds good. Cold again today.....I need to go out and do some things and I just don't want to leave the house...brrr!!! When it is cold out I just want to stay home.....wish I had some fun books here....that is the type of day I would love. |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Dec-2008 4:47pm Debster the Ezekial english muffins are so good I like them as well as regular english muffins or as bagels or anything like that but again you need to toast them. |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Dec-2008 6:00pm It dosn't matter what we have been through. We all have our own stories to tell. It's that we rise above it, come to terms with it and live well in spite of it all. We are woman, hear us roar!! We will cover come. (guys, you too if there are any out there) |
| Connie | posted 15-Dec-2008 7:15pm Amen to that! |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Dec-2008 7:22pm hear us roar.....and not with our mouths full of flour or sugar |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Dec-2008 9:32pm lol :o) |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Dec-2008 9:34pm Did you get a load of the bod at the top of this page? I say we get her fired! |
| Debster | posted 15-Dec-2008 10:57pm Hi Everybody....Yes, hear us roar.....Connie, wow....you have been through a lot. Hormones play havoc with our bodies...I am glad that you are better now....Who cares about the sleep eating when you have been through all of that. Just get the sugar out of the way and forget it. There are worse things. Just great....My Ezekial bread is not....hear me....not in the freezer. It is in my bread basket and my husband and I have been gradually eating it (he likes it, go figure). Does that mean that it is now bad? My bread says "low sodium"....maybe it tastes bad to me because there is no flour, no sugar, and now, no salt. What else is there in life? Now....2 success stories for gastric bypass. Yes, my daughter wants me to consider lap band surgery. I think I am afraid of any kind of surgery....bad enough I have to have kneee replacements. I am on day 6 of NFNS and I am sticking to it....really am....I can't say that it is always easy but it isn't impossible either. What bod....I went to the top of my page...no bod there...maybe she got fired already!!! I am going to try the Ezek muffins next. I am going to make wonderful little pizzas out of them...I am going to like them too....I swear Debbie M....be careful in the ice. I hate ice too. I already said a little prayer for your...safety! Good Night All! |
| Debster | posted 15-Dec-2008 11:00pm Oh, good grief...I went back and read the posts....Debbie M was playing in the snow and ice and poor Connie was the one driving in it. I am re-saying my prayer for Connie's safety....boy, sometimes it's hard to keep it straight. Connie ....be careful out there! |
| Bronwyn | posted 16-Dec-2008 12:10am Hey Debster I know I get the events on here confused too No wonder you hated the Ezekial bread....I do think straight from the bread box would be a challenge to eat. I am also looking at having to have at least one knee replacement in the next few years (not really that long) but most likely two knee replacements. I do think if I could get some weight off that the life of my knees could be extended a bit.....but they have been hauling excess weight for a long time and that has certainly had its affect on them.Talking of bods.....Jennifer Aniston is sure making the news with her bod and the displaying of it wearing not much more than a man's tie. However, like Debster at the top of my page is only a bare waist with a measuring tape around it.....the waist looks really great though. |
| Debbie M. | posted 16-Dec-2008 1:31am How strange, the gale is gone. Just saw her that once. Must have been a pop up. I don't get that much. But I'm glad she is gone. She was way too perfect and probably all of 20 with no kids. ha I would look out for that bread to be moldy soon. I'm the one who couldn't sleep tonight. My whole family is snoozing and I am here walking around. We were at Walgreens this afternoon and the girls wanted Kisses. We got all kinds of new varieties but I wouldn't get the plain ones. My fav. So here I am resisting cause the ones I love are back at the store. hehe Thanks for the prayer Debster. My Mom fell on the ice two times in one day a couple days ago. She has been taking over the counter pain meds and is sore all over. She lives a couple blocks from me. What, no snow or ice in Maryland? (is that where is was?) Congrats on your stick to it tive ness Debster. I can't wait for you to see your scale move when you get on it next time. I know it will. Mine unfortunately is stuck. My sister in law just had a total hysterectomy a couple weeks ago. She is just 49. They found a football size tumor (not cancer) on the outside of her uterus and a cyst on her overy. She wanted it all out so they hanked it all. I hope she is ok with the forced menopause. I don't know if she has chosen HRT or not. Any decor yet Connie? Bronwyn, You book sounds good I may look for it at the library. I love to read books like that. Its snowing really fluffy snow right now. The kind that can bearly land, and won't stick together, and lookes like big pieces of glitter when it finally hits the ground. Its so pretty. Its 14 degrees out there but feels like 2. My puppy dosn't want to go out. She's a Yorky and has a short cut right now. Poor thing. Brr I'm gonna climb back in bed and tuck my cold toes under my husband. haha I hope to sleep, perchance to dream........... |
| Debbie M. | posted 16-Dec-2008 7:39am Bronwyn did you see the FlyLady email about soup today? There's even a recipe for French Onion Soup in there. How timely. Good Morning everyone. I had a dream that I was 20 weeks pregnant. Can you imagin? |
| Hilda | posted 16-Dec-2008 11:47am I think we should continue to put our recipes on this site. We are in because of slick roads. Has anyone ever made this corn recipe? Amish corn 2 16 -oz pkg of frozen corn 8 oz cream cheese, softened 1 stick of margarine 1/4 cup Splenda or (sugar) 1/4 cup water Salt and pepper to taste Slow cook on low for 3 hours, stirring occasionally |
| Connie | posted 16-Dec-2008 11:58am Hi everyone. Man, I love this site. All of our prayers paid off...ice only on some bridges and overpasses. Still, my rear view mirror read "ice" all the way home, so I was very careful. Jerry's snoring good! He's already bucking his post op instructions! I'll get him on track, maybe he just needed to sleep for a bit first. Nothing major. What a relief to have this part done. Two more stages to go. Debster, I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we love your enthusiasm! Losing weight would surely help your knees. At least, like Bronwyn's idea, you could maybe postpone surgery for a while. Chicky is almost always at the top of my page. The one wearing pink, right? I pretty much ignore everything at the top of this page. The good stuff is in the postings! Debbie, I wish you luck in staying out of the candy. You can do it. Tomorrow is decorating day. It's the law! Thank you everyone for your kind words over my "sad time." I have often thought it could be worse. What I had was fixable. It was just one of those cases that needed an older doctor, on who had seen it all. Like the dentist I went to in MI. She was older and she fixed me up great. Oh yea, and my mom. She diagnosed me fast. Time to wake the patient. Hope he is more cooperative! Later dear friends. |
| Debster | posted 16-Dec-2008 12:18pm Connie, Not that it is our business but have you shared what operation that your husband had? I hope you are all doing well....glad you were safe on the ice...have to run....at work now. |
| Debbie M. | posted 16-Dec-2008 12:37pm I was just going to ask if I missed the details. I'm glad all is well. |
| Bronwyn | posted 16-Dec-2008 1:17pm Isn't this Jerry's dental surgery....I thought he was out of town for business you mean he was out of town for the surgery? That would seem brutal to have to be flying after surgery. |
| Connie | posted 16-Dec-2008 1:22pm Yes, so far so good. We found out Jerry had to have oral surgery quite a while back. But he kept putting it off and now he has major problems. Extractions, bone graft, build up and hope for the best! Very, very quiet here today. Sleep is the best medicine. |
| Connie | posted 16-Dec-2008 1:24pm He got home last night. It was a close call, he flew into Minneapolis and the flight could have been delayed. |
| Debster | posted 16-Dec-2008 2:33pm Hi Everyone, just finishing lunch here at the office. All kinds of food gifts are arriving....donuts, cookies, and candies. There is not one thing back there that isn't made with flour or covered in sugar. I am staying away. I don't seem to be fighting the cravings as much as I used to. Maybe this program is starting to work. Connie, good luck to Jerry with his ongoing treatments. I work for a dentist so we hear about these things often. Sleep and the support of a good wife.....smile.....is the best medicine. Okay, you guys....you have all been talking so much about ice and snow....now it's here in Maryland. We have sleet and I am a little worried about driving home....yep, I hate ice too! I love this website too. I think recipes are a good idea. I just ordered Dr. Gott's books. They should arrive in about 3 days. Okay....back to work! See ya! |
| Bronwyn | posted 16-Dec-2008 3:51pm Debster my brother used to live in Endicott City is that close to you? You know the thing about everyone bringing all that junk into the office is so weird......everyone is always saying oh I shouldn't be eating this or that. I think everyone finds it a challenge and then they feel guilty and crummy for eating it. Be brave and take in something that is really healthy and something you can eat.....you may even find that everyone would rather have it. Mind you I am a little off topic here as you are really talking about presents from outside your office right.....patients and so forth. Connie you will be the best medicine Jerry can have.....I know he will feel well cared for. There is a really yummy and a little different hummous......google cookbooks 101....the authour of the site is Heidi Swanson and check out her hummous. Every time I try to attach a link I get shut down on my web page. |
| Bronwyn | posted 16-Dec-2008 3:55pm Hummus en Fuego A couple tips before you get started - rub the skins of the walnuts off a bit after you toast them, it's nothing I really pay too much attention to for a recipe like this, but the skins can be a bit bitter and tannic. And again, make the crushed red pepper oil a day or two ahead if possible. 1/2 cup extra-virgin olive oil 1 1/2 teaspoons crushed red pepper flakes 3/4 cup walnuts, toasted 2 cups cooked (or canned) garbanzo beans, drained 1 medium clove garlic juice of 1/2 a lemon (about 2 tablespoons) 1/2 cup hot water 1/4 cup oil-cured olives, chopped a bit of chopped cilantro Make the hot pepper oil a day or so ahead of time by heating the olive oil in a small saucepan for a couple minutes - until it is about as hot as you would need it to saute some onions, but not so hot that it smokes or smells acrid or burned. Turn off the heat and stir in the crushed red pepper flakes. Set aside and let cool, ideally for a day or two - to let the flavor really develop. To make the hummus, give the walnuts a spin in the food processor, just until they are a sandy texture. Add most of the garbanzos, 1 or 2 tablespoons of the red chile oil (oil only, no flakes), garlic, and lemon juice. Now process until smooth. Drizzle in the water a bit at a time and puree more, until the hummus is creamy and billowy. I tend to let the food processor run for a minute or so at this point, it incorporates air into the puree and makes it a nice texture. Taste, adjust the seasoning - more salt, more lemon juice, etc. Serve in a shallow bowl, drizzled with plenty of the remaining oil and red pepper flakes. I like to add any remaining garbanzo beans at this point as well as some olives and a bit of chopped cilantro for the final touch. Makes roughly 2 1/2 cups.. Print Recipe |
| Bronwyn | posted 16-Dec-2008 4:00pm Ah ha.....it worked and I didn't get shut down. Anyways I know it calls for 1/2 cup of olive oil but I didn't use nearly that much.....a 1/4 at the most. If you can find the web site then you can see the picture.....it is really an attractive dish. I topped mine with what she said plus a little chopped feta and fresh chopped tomato and avocado. It is really important to rub as much of the skin off the walnuts as you can or it will have a bitter taste. I made it for a group gathering and everyone really liked it in fact one of the guys said he had never liked hummus before and that he really liked this.....there you go, eh!!! |
| Connie | posted 16-Dec-2008 4:17pm Debster, I just sent a prayer for safe driving conditions for you. First for today, then for tomorrow, then the rest of the week! You can resist the temptation of all that sugar and flour. If you really stop and think about them, what's in them, what they do to you, you'll have no trouble passing them up. Their gross! Jerry's up and watching tv. He's making a miraculous recovery already...he's commandeered the remote. Man tv for the rest of the day. I'm hold up in my bedroom for a while. Looks like Jerry's taking up the couch is postponing decorating...again. I really need to get that done, it doesn't feel Christmasy without it. |
| Connie | posted 16-Dec-2008 4:20pm Bronwyn, is the dip spicy? |
| Connie | posted 16-Dec-2008 7:13pm Heads up ladies...I need to pick your brains. I just talked to my sister. She's the one on WW. She has been interested in my success, and I have encouraged her to try it. So, today she says to me "I looked up NFNS on the internet and there is a lot of criticism about it. Kidney damage." So I said that surely she had confused NFNS with Atkins and the high carb side effects. She said "No, it was NFNS." Have any of you ever read or been told about any negative criticism of this eating plan? I tried to find negative stuff about it on line, but I couldn't. By the way, when I was surfing I found something called Rosmary's Morning After the Binge." Please, please. please...everyone google it and read it. All continues to be great here. Hope everyone is well too. Debster, you make it home ok? |
| Debbie M. | posted 16-Dec-2008 8:43pm I've never heard anything bad about not eating sugar and flour. We can have whole grains and just about everything else that is healthy. Veggies, fruit, lean meats, good fats. Our bodies do not NEED refined flours or any kind of processed sugar. Adkins eliminates a lot of good stuff but we can have everything. It couldn't be healthier. My cardiologist is thrilled I am on this diet. He recommends this and the South Beach diet. They are very similar. She must have gotten mixed up. I'd like to see her artical. |
| Debster | posted 16-Dec-2008 9:18pm Yes, I got home safely. Even though it started by sleeting it changed to more rain then ice here. A little more north in Carroll County, where my mom and dad live....they had the ice. I live about 25 minutes from Ellicott City, and my daughter lives right near Ellicott City in Dayton. Thanks for the recipe.... I will google that site and see what I can find. Weight Watchers is promoting a program called "Momentum" now and basically it is a program using "core" foods....grains, fruits, vegetables, healthy oils, and dairy and putting a point value to them. The more "core" foods you eat the better you are doing, although they tell you that you can eat anything. I think the key is not to go crazy in any direction. I have not gotten my book yet but I do have "South Beach" and basically they are all promoting healthy foods. Whites ....sugar...flour (and my daughter even says white rice, potatoes, can be addictive and triggers for some of us). Atkins diet can be unhealthy because it can cause gall bladder problems after a while...due to all of the high fat/protein and basically no or low carbs. I wouldn't worry about this....it seems like one of the healthier plans... ha, ha....listen to me, the big expert....the one who hasn't even gotten her book yet....but one thing that being fat has gotten me....a lot of knowledge about what and what not to do....it's the doing it that is so tough! How's Jerry doing? See ya'll,Debster |
| Connie | posted 16-Dec-2008 9:46pm I am convinced my sister is confused about NFNS. I can't find anything negative about it. Unfortunately, she is not going to take my word for it. I'll discuss it with her when I get to MI. I can't wait to tell her it is cardiologist recommended! Glad you made it home Debster. Anyone looked up "morning after the binge" yet? It is just very uplifting. A smack in the head reality check. I did ww for all of three weeks. I did points, what a pain. I guess that shows how committed I was! I just struggled with all the registering and adding. It wasn't for me. I think once we eliminate F&S from our diet, our body can tell us how much to eat...if we listen. |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Dec-2008 2:18am Connie your sister has to be confusing our program with another one.....I am trying to remember now what I have come up with before when I have googled just straight NFNS......there is something else and it had nothing to do with flour or sugar. I will have to check that out. I question to some extent not being able to have whole grain flours....but sugar there can't be any evidence in support of it having any benefits (other than hey it does make some things taste good). Listen she may be (although I am sure she loves you dearly) a little jealous of your success......and hey it is a lot easier than WW and she probably hasn't been doing as well on her more difficult program as you have on yours. Listen Connie I am jealous of you as well :=) but I am not going to try to undermine your success by suggesting that sugar is actually good for us and it is harmful to not have it. There are many programs out there that are questionable.....every read about Kimkins.....what a scam and terribly unhealthy. Maybe you can find out what information she has received to give her that idea and you will find that it wasn't anything about the actual program it's self. Human nature is to validate our choices by looking for faults in what others are doing. |
| Connie | posted 17-Dec-2008 4:58am Thanks for the feed back on that Bronwyn. From you, our most learned member, any thing you tell us carries a lot os weight. Woke up and checked on Jerry. He is doing well. He said he hasn't slept all night, I guess because he slept so much today. And he hadn't had a pain pill in 5 hours. He was having some pain, so I made him take one. I've learned it's better to avoid the pain. Once pain gets a hold of you, bringing it down is difficult. Bronwyn, if I were standing next to you I would punch you in the arm! Just kidding, I've never hit anyone...ever. But I would give you a look with hands on hips! Don't be jealous. This is the perfect time for me to say read the "morning after the binge." I am not different from you or anyone else on this board. What has happened for me can happen for anyone...remember all the testimonials you read about NFNS. I'm just another one that has been on it awhile. Back to bed. |
| Connie | posted 17-Dec-2008 9:48am Morning. 149.6 this morning. Playing nurse yesterday kept me from doing so many things. I just munched all day. Today I'll catch up. I was a very good nurse, if I don't say so myself. But then last night I found out Jerry wasn't supposed to use a straw, and I gave him one that he used all day. I'm really worried now that he will get a "dry socket." Sheeeoot! The paperwork said sometimes that can happen no matter what, but dang!!! Hope everyone is well and has a great NFNS day. |
| Debster | posted 17-Dec-2008 12:44pm Hello Everyone! I hope Jerry is doing better this morning. I went on line to look up Rosemary's morning after the binge....found detox stuff...couldn't really figure it out. Looked again this morning and I found the short story about the tale of two wolves....very interesting and uplifting too....is this what you were referring to? Rosemary's site sounds interesting....she leaves an email address after the story and her thoughts. I am home sick today...I have an upper respiratory thing going on. I am on antibiotics and other meds right now...I am trying to get better because our work Christmas party is tomorrow. My boss said that I should come to the party even if I'm not up to working tomorrow, but I don't feel great about doing that....sort of would make me feel ....worthless....I am going to continue my major rest and medication...I want an instant recovery. Instant weight loss would be good too!!!!!!! Talk to you guys later. |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Dec-2008 1:40pm I'm having cottage cheese with a diced up tomato in it. A little salt and pepper, yum. Connie, you turned me on to that and I just love it. I like hummus too. I eat it with Triscuits or tortilla chips. Watch out though, its easy to over eat on this snack. |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Dec-2008 1:41pm Aww, speedy recovery to you Debster~ |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Dec-2008 2:13pm Back to a question from yesterday.....the hummous recipe I posted isn't overly spicy.....maybe a little more spicy than the regular but if you wanted it more spicy you could add more c=red chili flakes. |
| Anonymous | posted 17-Dec-2008 2:42pm I have been on NFNS for three years. Will never eat junk food, anything from a package, or if I read the ingreidents and has chemicals I never it or feed my kids junk food. Stay focus. yesterday at work, coworkers were bringing in junk food, candies etc. I brought veggies with humuus dip. Well, everyone ate the veggies. If I get a gift from a coworker that has junk food such as candies, cupcakes, pastries pies, etc. I say thank you and merry christmas. When I go home, I toss the junk food in the trash. Yesterday, one of my neighbors baked me pineapple cranberry bundt cake-She knows I am on the NFNS diet. Well, I said thank you and tossed it the trash. Sometimes coworkers and neighbors will try to make you just a little piece of any foods. Smile accept the gift then toss it. As my doctor said if you feed your body crap and junk food you will not feel good. If you feed your body healthy food your body will thank you. |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Dec-2008 2:44pm Ladies~ Don't forget to drink your water. Sometimes when we think we are hungry we are really just thirsty. We also tend to get more dehydrated in the winter when the furnice is running and drying out the air. It is not onlly good for your digestive tract but also your skin. Don't forget lotion right after a shower or bath if your skin is dry. Also dehydration can lead to head aches, so if you get then have a couple drinks (of water that is)! Speaking of water. I heard of an experiment some college girls did. They decided to drink an 8 oz glass of water before each meal, but change nothing else about their diets. At the end of the test (1 month I think) they lost an average of 10 pounds. Let's raise our glasses to H2O! |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Dec-2008 2:46pm I wish this site had spell check. It's so embarrassing to see my errors. :o( |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Dec-2008 3:52pm I just yelled at the kids so loud I stained my voice. They were fighting and pick pick picking on each other so much that I just about lost it. I sent them all to their rooms. grrrr Tomorrow is their last day of school before CHristmas break. I don't know how I will survive with them home for a couple weeks. OK, blood pressure come down now...... I think my children argue more than the average group of kids. We are all leader type, high spirited people in this family. Maybe thats why. Maybe not so much my son or husband but the girls sure are! Time to take 5 with a hot cup of herbal tea............ |
| Anonymous | posted 17-Dec-2008 4:05pm Debbie, get that jigsaw puzzle set up. That will give them something else to do. Don't worry about your misspellings! Sometimes at night I'm on here without my reading glasses, who knows what I'm typing! The bit about the water is so true. When I started this, I used the formula where I divided my weight by two, then drank that many ounces. Any liquid counts. I think I deducted 10 ounces or so from what they suggested just because. But, even if you halved that amount, it would make a big difference in how much you ate. Recently I read a novel and one of the characters in it took the water thing a step further. He said if you consume (?) ounces of water a day, you can eat what you want and never gain a lb. I don't know about that, but it further shows a lot of people have had a lot of success drinking lots of water and losing. It worked for me. I was drinking 70-80 ounces of water a day. Hope you feel better Debster. I'm glad you found the story about the wolves. I just loved it. Get lots of rest, and watch your soup consumption. I never found a canned one without sugar. If you must, try adding a dollop of low fat cottage cheese to it. Really good. |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Dec-2008 4:18pm Soup is so easy to make. I have been making all kinds as of late. I didn't used to ever make it but I have learned that it is easy. My family generally likes them, they are economical and so much healthier than canned, Less fat and soduim and no preservatives. Plus you can put in your very favorite things and omit what you don't like. There are endless ways to change it up. |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Dec-2008 6:42pm Debbie I so remember days where I wanted to strangle my darling children whom I dearly loved ;-0 but I had just had it with the restlessness, contention, and all that goes with kids with nothing to do indoors in the winter. You can't be a mum without having bouts of frustration, anger and then sadly guilt for being normal. Anonymous sounds a lot like Connie I had a "girls night out" Christmas party last night at my friends house who is just such an organized, cool, and creative person. I came home with ideas to do with my family. In fact she had our group over the same time of year last year and I again came away with fun ideas. She made two home made soups.....a minestrone and a mushroom soup......very good! I make a lot of home made soups.....that is such a good way to get lots of vegetables into your meal. Connie I haven't found what you were talking about to read.....where do you go again. Is this about bingeing on alcohol...that is totally not my problem.....sugar and chocolate binges would fit in though  |
| Connie | posted 17-Dec-2008 9:21pm Yes, anonymous was me. Rosemary's Morning after the Binge is not about alcohol, it's about food. But that's not the story part. The story is about 2 wolves. I just googled the title and it came up. I hope you can find it, it's great. I'm thinking I should read it everyday BEFORE I get out of bed. The decorations are done. I have been going a hundred miles an hour since I got out of bed at 6:00. So much to do today, but I did it. I decided to add some different things to the outdoor decorations, so that took a good bit of time. But luckily, wm had a lot of outdoors things on sale, so it was all in all a good day. I have been sleeping better since Jerry's been home. I seem to wake up and think of him, check on him, then fall back asleep. It has been nice. Bronwyn, your Christmas party sounds like it was great. I love to see things and go for the same look or mix it up a bit. Nothing wrong with that. I found out today we are probably going to have a family picture, just us seven sisters, maybe one with mom, when I travel to MI. What to wear! I am gladly and happily done for the day, curled up in bed with a book and some pets. Life is good. Night all. |
| Connie | posted 17-Dec-2008 9:24pm Oops! It's Rosmary's Morning after crash diet @ www.blogtalkradio. Hope you can all find it. |
| Hilda | posted 17-Dec-2008 9:28pm I was watching an episode of the new show "The Doctors" this week.It comes on at 11am. They were discussing the dangers of drinking too much water. |
| Hilda | posted 17-Dec-2008 9:40pm Consuming a low sodium diet combined with excessive water intake for prolonged periods can disturb the proper balance between sodium and fluids in your blood. Your brain can swell, kidneys fail and you can die. (Hyponatremia) Keep your intake within the recommended number of ounces. |
| Debster | posted 17-Dec-2008 10:05pm HI Everyone....I have missed a lot of action today....I have been resting, eating some soup (actually all of the soups that I am eating are homemade) I made some different soups when I started this diet because it is hard to find canned soups without sugar, rice, pasta noodles, etc. I think my diet books arrived today. A box from Amazon.com came but I have not opened it yet...I am too tired...the antibiotics really knock me out. Gee Debbie.....good luck with the kids....I remember those days now. It's funny how you will only look back with fond memories when they grow up...just threaten them with everything near and dear to them....that's what I used to do. Shut the door and take a bubble bath. Cottage with diced tomato...little salt and pepper...Yum???? I wouldn't have thought of that but I am going to try it. Triscuits and Tortilla chips are okay? I have been on this program for a week now. Wish me luck at my weigh in at Weight Watchers tomorrow night. I am going to the Christmas party. I just don't want to miss it. I'll be a little loopy but probably more fun! Good night...Back to bed! |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Dec-2008 10:50pm Yes, as long as there isn't the word flour in the list of foods its ok. Wheat is ok, wheat flour is not. Corn is ok, corn flour is not. Rice is ok, rice flour is not. Get it? Read your book! Lots of good tips there. Connie gave me the cottage cheese and tomato idea. Now I'm hooked. She puts it in soup too but I havent tried that yet. I found whole grain corn tortillas at Wal mart. I put a little olive oil in a small saute pan,put the tortilla in to warm and slightly brown, turning once. The flavor really changes as they cook. Then I put my toppings like salsa, sour cream, chicken, veggies like red peppers, onion, mushrooms and cheese. This make a delicious wonderful taste sensation sorta like a mexican pizza. Eat with a fork and knife, its messy good. I bought a new puzzle a few days ago. I'm going to set it out in a couple days. |
| Debster | posted 18-Dec-2008 5:43am Good morning....I am up. Debbie, thanks for the tips....I'll open my Amazon box and see if my book did come..... later tonight. I am worried about the weigh in tonight because I have been perfect on this diet and if I don't lose I know that I will be upset. I keep talking to myself and saying that regardless of what happens I am going to stick to this program. Something has to work for me. I will reread the "Two Wolves Story" See ya'll.....Deb |
| Connie | posted 18-Dec-2008 6:06am Hello gang. I'm up temporarily. Jerry is tossing and turning, then I move and then it starts all over again. I'll give him some time alone in the bed so he can fall asleep, then I'm crawling back in! Hilda, I know that water consumption is controversial. But I wish you would google "how much water is it safe to drink" and read some of the sites. Death from drinking too much water has only happened to people who were in contests. They drank over two gallons in an extremely short amount of time. They also were not allowed to empty their bladders. The amount of water I am recommending does not come close to that, and we can tinkle at will. Also, the amount I am recommending is consumed over the course of an entire day. Runners and heavy exercisers have consumed too much water when they have depleted their levels of sodium through exercising. Standard wisdom suggests 64 ounces a day. Bumping that up to 90 ounces is not going to hurt us. I suppose if someone had a pre-existing kidney problem, or really any serious heath problem, they should consult with their doctor. But for everyone else, it is safe. I mean really, how many people do you know that get the recommended 64 ounces? No one I know. I drink water a lot, and I never drank that much. It is amazing how full you get drinking water. Go ahead and drink 2 large full glasses before each meal, and some in between as well, and see what happens to your appetite. Another thing Hilda, did you find your pants at www.jcp.com? I'm pretty sure I saw them on the web site. I know you have been looking for them since I started on this site, so let me know. Cottage cheese with diced tomato and some long grain rice mixed in is one of my favorites! So is a scoop of cottage cheese in a hot bowl of soup. Yum. Maybe I'll have have one of those for dinner tonight! Debster, don't over do it at the party. No drinking and dancing on tables, making out with coworkers, etc, HaHa!!!! This time of year their are always news tidbits on the do's and dont's of office parties. It is hard to imagine people act like that, but they do. Seriously, have a nice time and take your own foods to nibble on. When I go to my party in MI, I am going to take my own foods. I'm thinking about Bronwyn's dip. Hopefully, Jerry is back to sleep. I'll check in when the sun comes up. |
| Connie | posted 18-Dec-2008 9:22am Suns up! Oh heavens, too much to do again today! I think if I hustle, I can get almost everything done by 1:00, then rest. Tomorrow I'll be at work all day. Saturday I am doing nothing!!!!! I found out yesterday I had thrown out some old worn and tattered items from my Christmas decorations last year. I barely remember doing it. My memory is shockingly bad at times. I'm heading back to wm today. One of the things I need to get is a tree skirt. I can't send Holly for that. She could come home with a tie dye or a care bears skirt! I'm going to reread the two wolves story. Good practice for saying something...then doing it! Later. Oh yeah, 149.9 this morning. I've been back on the cheese for the last couple of days. |
| Andrea | posted 18-Dec-2008 10:55am lost 3 lbs this week. i have to start checking in here more than once a week! rice cakes are my new favorite thing. they are good with hummos spread on them or tuna. i get the plane ones, they are good for replacing bread and they are 35 calories a piece. i also put chic peas in with my eggs. it's better than you think! haha i got some pickles that have no sugar in the ingredients. i think they are made by Hunts--the Vlassic Pickles had some sort of syrup or sugar in them. i hope they are okay--does anyone know? i mix them with cottage cheese. i eat like i am pregnant i think--but i'm not! Connie--you're in the 140's!! that is a number that is just beautiful!! congratulations! |
| Bronwyn | posted 18-Dec-2008 4:35pm Debbie M.,,,,,,I am crises cleaning today.....how I wish I was more in tune with flying. I have our first Christmas entertaining event tonight here, tomorrow night here, Saturday night at a friends and then again Sunday here and Tuesday at lunch here. Fly lady is so right you can't clean clutter.......I keep saying okay I am seriously going to start reading her e-mails and doing them.....I am such a procrastinator. |
| Connie | posted 18-Dec-2008 9:01pm The end of another busy day. If I was in your shoes Bronwyn, well, I would never find myself in your shoes because I would say "no" to everything after the first event, but that's just me, anyway, I would be exhausted just in the planning. But now I see another side of you, your one of those women that entertain graciously. I have a couple of sisters with that gift also. Good luck with everything. I'm sure it all will be lovely. I am a one function person and I'm ok with that. I was hoping for the afternoon off, no such luck. Saturday is already looking busier than I want, so Sunday will be my great day of rest. That's how I get when I get too busy, I start trying to schedule down time and obsessing over it. I can't believe Christmas is almost here. Suddenly I'm looking forward to dull and boring January! Jerry's doing very well. Hop everyone else is too. Night. |
| Hilda | posted 18-Dec-2008 11:48pm I have not ordered my pants online yer, but I think they are the right ones. My tags say short intead of petite, so that sort of worries me. |
| Debster | posted 19-Dec-2008 12:18am Hello Everyone....boy....everyone is cleaning and getting ready for Christmas....it's exhausting just listening but this is that time of year....Good luck Bronwyn with all of the events that you have planned....I agree with Connie...you sound like a gracious entertainer. Update....party went well....no making out,dancing on tables (I tried but I exceeded the weight limit---ha, ha, Connie) or overeating....but still had a great time. Went to Weight Watchers tonight and I lost 5.4 lbs this week....1.2 last week (after only 1 1/2 days of dieting the first week) so the total for about 8 1/2 days is 6.6 lbs. That's new for me...usually the scale does not budge for me....there is something to this program. I am 303.8 lbs now. There is no Weight Watchers on Thursdays for 2 weeks (Christmas and New Years) so I can either check in at another meeting time or go 3 weeks....I think I might go the three weeks and shoot for well below 300. I guess that using this diet and checking in at Weight Watchers may seem dumb but it is sort of the accountability part that I am afraid to give up....maybe in time. Meanwhile, I feel that the real support comes from all of you. I am always anxious to check in and see how everyone else is doing....ideas....and personal tidbits. Good night to all. Christmas is comng fast and I am trying to get ready. Debster |
| Bronwyn | posted 19-Dec-2008 2:51am Actually a lot of the entertaining is my husbands idea.....I don't look fore ward to one event right after another. This was the first at my house for the season but remember I already went to another one on Tuesday. I don't know why everything happens at holidays......it is too much for me!!! Wow Debster......way to go. Maybe I should join WW so I have a place to weigh in and be accountable. I am so glad to hear that you were able to stay off dancing on the tables Connie is the possibility of dry socket now out ,,,,,, that is so miserable, glad Jerry is doing well. Hilda I think short and petite would mean the same thing.....for sure short will be shorter in the leg. Petite may be shorter in the rise than just short would be but I would think the length would be the same. Aren't the catalogues good about returning if you don't like the items? Sounds like you are doing well Andrea.....I can't remember your story. I am so tired........ |
| Debbie M. | posted 19-Dec-2008 8:32am HEY!!! WOW, that is a terrific loss. You will be 2 something in no time never to see that 3 at the beginning again. That is so great an amazing. I am truely happy for you. WHooooo Hooo! 194 for me. Its that time of the month. I always gain a little temporarily during that time. Bronwyn, Fly Baby Fly! Have fun at your events. We can declutter seriously after this is all over. Chaos stops me from being as social as my heart want. Can't Have Anyone Over Syndrome is what CHAOS stands for. I think Short is the new worn for Petite. I think I'll nuk a sweet potato for lunch today. A little butter and splenda. Yum |
| Connie | posted 19-Dec-2008 8:58am Morning all. Gotta dash this morning just a quick check in, Debster, Your weight loss is so fantastic! How wonderful for you! Keep it up! WW and NFNS seems to be the trick for you, so go with it. I use this board as my accountability. I guess! Try to imagine where you will be 1 year from now. It is such an awesome opportunity. One year is going to pass no matter what your eating, so let this be your year to shine!!!! Hilda, definitely try the short size. You can heave them sent to the store closest to you and maybe save on shipping. If they don't fit, you can return them to the store and, once again, save on shipping. Bronwyn, you are a good wife for going along with your husbands social calendar. Now, I'm a little jealous of your ability to do all you do. I am not that social. But I'm good for a little celebrating. We will not be past the dry socket risk for another week. So far, so good. Jerry is doing well, he's going to try and stay off pain meds today. Those things have kicked his butt! Debbie, time must be going by faster than I realized. Your monthly gift is here a lot!!!! You hang in there, be tough, and let NFNS nature take it's course. Off to work, great day all. |
| Debbie M. | posted 19-Dec-2008 2:10pm My son got some bad grades so I took most of his privlages away until the grades were acceptable again. He brought one grade up enough but missed the mark on the other one. Now he is mad because he wants me to lift the restritction on this one particular video game for the duration of his Christmas break. I don't think I should. He is very upset about it. What do you all think I should do? Its come to tears. He is a good kid in every other area of his life accept he needs to be told when to shower and his room is dirty. I am up stressed and have been stress eating this morning. |
| Bronwyn | posted 19-Dec-2008 3:00pm hmmmm Debbie it sounds like you have a boy.....believe me at a certain age you don't have to tell them to shower.....you have to knock on the door and say "come on get out of the shower". Do you think your son is struggling in that class because it is hard for him or because he isn't doing his work? How old is your son? I just know that if you can work out a deal with him that doesn't invoke a power struggle between the two of you that is the most ideal....now and long term. ....I have to run I will finish my thought in a minute |
| Debbie M. | posted 19-Dec-2008 3:36pm He is 15 and it is becomming a power struggle. So you think it would be ok to let him have this game for the holiday. I don't like the tension but I don't want to make him feel like he won either. |
| Debbie M. | posted 19-Dec-2008 3:40pm He just isn't doing the work. I think its just laziness. |
| Bronwyn | posted 19-Dec-2008 6:40pm okay at 15 you do expect kids, boys or not to shower without being told but honestly they are all so different. My youngest is 19 and I am so worried about him he is going away from home to University after Christmas.....first time away from home. He is the kid I have to tell him everything and then he still doesn't get it done without us being on his back constantly. I don't know how he will ever grow up until he actually leaves home but I worry so much about how successful he will be with the whole thing. He is such a nice kid in so many ways,,,,kind, caring, thoughtful....I want to hug him and strangle him all at the same time. We have been in power struggles since the day he was born and it is so draining and frustrating but then I think it becomes a pattern of the way you deal with things (a horrible pattern). Could you sit down with him and ask him to give you some suggestions as to how this can be worked out without everyone feeling angry, tense, and cranky. Give him some power to make the situation work.....sometimes I have found this works. My 19 year old is an avid game player and I hate it and I think it takes away his motivation to do things,,,,,,do you find that with your 15 year old. The games are such a waste of time. |
| Debbie M. | posted 19-Dec-2008 7:21pm Yes, I do think it hinders motivation. I think you are very wise about the power struggle thing. My son sounds just like yours in regaurds to a lot of things. The games are just getting way outta control and I wish I'd never bought a single one. I'm going to have to give this some more thought. |
| Connie | posted 19-Dec-2008 7:42pm How odd everyone is talking about kids today! Today is my daughters 21rst birthday. She will probably be bar hopping all night on Beale Street. We never stop worrying about them. Her brother is going to catch up with her later, so I'm sure everything will be alright...I hope. Ok Debbie, here's what I would do if I were in your shoes. Since it is the holiday and he will probably have a lot of time on his hands and he doesn't want to call you Scrooge (and you don't want to be Scrooge), I would sit him down and see if he can offer you a good reason why his grade is so dismal, and what he thinks he can do to fix it. I have always found it important to let them come up with the solution and tell us, rather than us tell them. Then, IF he convinces you that his efforts and solution are sincere, I would compromise. Maybe let him have it 1 hr a day, or whatever you think a good compromise is. Don't cave in completely. He will never forget it and work for the same result next time. But tell him, "your an adult, you have to show some initiative here." I am once again glad for another day to be over! What a crummy way to live. I have been so busy I can't think straight. Tomorrow I will try and get organized. Jerry's been all day without pain meds. Now if he could just get caught up on sleep, he would really feel better. Time to find some more soft foods for him. |
| Connie | posted 19-Dec-2008 7:46pm I think I better clear up something I wrote. In the world of school and homework and tests and papers...he is am adult. In the world of school he knows what he should and shouldn't do. Didn't want you all to think I think a 15 year old is an adult. Most 21 year old males aren't adults! |
| Debbie M. | posted 19-Dec-2008 11:36pm Thanks you guys, I think I know what I need to do now. Happy and safe birthday to Connie's daughter. Busy busy busy, don't forget to breath. Good night. |
| Anonymous | posted 20-Dec-2008 11:21am Hello this is triplet mom. I had my tripets when I was 15 years old. My husband was 16 years old when we were married. The kids are now 6 years old. I am an accountant for a university and working just completed my MBA by attending school atn ight and online. My husband is a plumber. During the evenings he attended school and just graduated with a degree in Computer Science. He has a very good job with the Department o Defense. When I was 15 and pregnant, my family and high school teachers thought we would be "welfare hand out losers". I just love going back to my high school teachers to tell them you were wrong. My husband and I are in our early 20's , we own a home, paid for our education, and never received a dime from the government. That is how we stayed focus. I tell everyone stay on the NFNS diet. If you fail, it is ok to go back and try the next day. I made the banana bread in Dr. Gott's cookbook to give as gifts. My neighbors tell it is good. If you want to bake goodies, try the banana bread or muffin recipe. I added fresh cranberries to the bread. Happy Holidays. |
| Debbie M. | posted 20-Dec-2008 1:38pm I am impressed with your story. You had a vision and drive and determination. Good for you for making good out of a tough situation. God bless you and your family. |
| Bronwyn | posted 20-Dec-2008 1:58pm Triplet Mum you should be so proud of yourself and your little family. You have an amazing story. I can't imagine how you felt to be 15 years old and to find you were expecting, little lone the shock of finding you were expecting triplets. Getting an education was such an important thing for you to do. Your teachers were unkind but their previous experience gave them the opinion they expressed to you. As Debbie M said you are truly a determined person who worked hard and you did prove those teachers wrong....not that that truly matter it is your happiness that counts. Your determination has been a great help to you in so many areas of your life......even with the NFNS. I can tell you are a person who doesn't do things half heartedly. You started in a very difficult place and worked hard to make it work for you and your babies and husband.,,,,,,Wow good for you!!!! |
| Connie | posted 20-Dec-2008 6:49pm Hey, how's everybody doing on this last Saturday before Christmas? I have 90% of the wrapping done...whew! Tomorrow I'll be able to concentrate on weekly, plus Christmas, menu. When I've done that and bought that, I will be so much more relaxed. Triplet mom, you go girl!!!! We did everything a bit backwards in this family as well. But, when you have staying power you can accomplish anything. I do marvel at how you did it with triplets. When I was pregnant I told everyone if I had twins I was moving in with one of the Grandma's! It was a relief to all when I didn't. Seriously though, you and your husband have accomplished a lot and have earned every joy life gives you. Bronwyn, I hope your holding up with all the festivities. And Debbie, I hope you were able to work out something with your son. As for me, both my kids showed up about 2:30 this afternoon and I have yet to change out of my pj's! Jerry's fine too. Peaceful evening to all. |
| Bronwyn | posted 20-Dec-2008 9:04pm Well it continues to be so cold here. I can't even stand to go out......I wish I had got myself more organized earlier on in the season. Not only is it cold but the traffic is so horrendous and the roads aren't great....snow packed and icy. I got this really cool catalogue that has such fun things in it.....I think I will cut out the pictures put them in an envelope with my kids names on them and order the items to be shipped to them at school...... Okay my son has moved his wedding up one month.....I now have only 4 months to lose a thousand lbs........groan!!!! How are you guys doing.....I have been uncommitted for a while and I now have no more time to procrastinate. |
| Connie | posted 20-Dec-2008 9:58pm Bronwyn, no kidding...if you put your mind to it, you could lose at least 30+ lbs in four months! YOU CAN DO IT! YOU CAN DO IT! YOU CAN DO IT! Really I think you could lose 40 lbs. Maybe even more. |
| Bronwyn | posted 20-Dec-2008 10:26pm Connie you sweetie pie you make me feel like I can do it.....I didn't go to the party tonight.....I just couldn't face it. I actually had to stay home with my Mum, as I didn't have any arrangements for her. I really didn't try hard to make arrangements and I made my husband go without me. I didn't want to go!!! I really wanted to stay home. Connie......40 really, really that would help. Lets see that is 10 lbs. a month.....that is pretty steep but it would help so much. I would still be 165 lbs. but really I could start to get something cute at that size. That would be a nice fitting regular 14.....totally out of the plus sizes maybe even a tight 12. WOOHOOO.......I want to do it. |
| Debbie M. | posted 20-Dec-2008 10:43pm Oh Bronwyn, I totally have your number. I so want you to do it. It almost makes me sad to know the feeling that go along with that struggle. But when its all said and done I want you to feel happy on your wonderful day. Please buckle down and just do what it takes. The time is going to pass anyway so just DO IT! |
| Debster | posted 21-Dec-2008 12:56am Wow....I have missed so much today....My grandson was baptized today and we had all of the festivities at my daughter's house. My niece and I were up until 3 PM last night wrapping Christmas gifts. Tomorrow my daughter, her husband and two children...my son and his wife...my ex-mother-in law (we're still close)...my parents....my husband,niece, and myself will be having an early Christmas dinner and gifts at our house. My daughter and her husband are leaving for the Czech Republic (my son-in law is from there) and they will be staying for one month to visit his family...thus our early celebration. We will have another celebration on Christmas day here also with more people, but not my daughter's family...they will be in Czech. Okay...here is my take....Kudos to triplet mom for doing such a good job at such a young age. I was only 17 1/2 years old when I got pregnant with my daughter and my husband (now my ex) was 19. We got married, struggled, but also made it work. Sometimes people can be more responsible at 15 than at 30. It depends on the person. Congratulations....triplets....wow, what an accomplishment. Bronwyn...you can do it...Just stick to this program 100%....No matter what you lose....10, 20, 30 or 40 will be up to your body letting go, but you will look and feel better whatever the number. Shoot for the top number....why not? That will keep you on the program 100% and remember....seriously....beauty is really on the inside....if you are kind, loving, and happy on the inside....it radiates outwardly. You will be hot at that wedding. We will all be supporting you. Debbie M.....I'm probably too late, you have probably already made your decision about your son, but I agree....let him come up with a compromise that allows him to have some control. If he sticks to his end of it, then allow him some time with that game. I was never great at holding out on the punishments, 100%, but my kids turned out fine. I always talked with them and allowed them some control in situations...it's also easier on the nerves too....you want to have a nice holicay too and not feel that you are in constant battle. Connie....I am glad that Jerry is better. I am always impressed at what a great cheerleader you are for this group. You really inspire everyone with you down-to-earth attitude and common sense suggestions. I am personally having great success at sticking to this program....just started to read the book. Everyone be safe during this hectic holiday season. P.S. - Hilda, did you order those pants yet? Debster |
| Connie | posted 21-Dec-2008 4:16am Well Bronwyn, it seems the general consensus is YOU CAN DO IT! When I went to MI for my first wedding over the summer 10 lbs is what I lost. And I stuck to the program while I was there and ended up dropping a couple of lbs by the time I got home. Also, that 10 lbs made a significant difference in me. That was when I was losing so much "puffiness," or inflammation. I was already feeling better. By four months I was down almost 40 lbs. Soon the holiday season will be behind you and temptations should rapidly decline. If you were not such a good cook it would be easier for you as well! Debbie, one of the things I thought was important for my kids, when they were in trouble (nothing major), was to allow them was a graceful exit from the situation. That way the had a sense of empowerment and didn't have to carry tons of guilt around with them. That kept negativity from bringing them down further. It really is good for their decision making skills. Back to bed. Night...again! |
| Connie | posted 21-Dec-2008 10:43am Good morning! The most wonderful thing happened...we ran out of toilet paper! Now Jerry is insisting he go to the store right away and was there anything else I needed? I get to check "grocery store" off my list of chores to do today before I even get out of bed. This is going to be a great day, I can tell! He announced our dilemma as he handed me a cup off coffee in bed. Geesh!!!! I am in love! Bronwyn, good luck with your decision on committing to NFNS. You, more than anyone, know it has to be done 100% of the time. But it is so doable. Maybe after Christmas you could try for 2 months of NFNS and see where that takes you. Concentrate on the health benefits, not just the weight loss. Get your family on board with you. If they want something off the program, let them figure out how to get it and somewhere to keep it out of sight. Prepare yourself for the chocolate withdrawal. Remember, it's only factory made unhealthy goop that messes up your system. Make a list of all the good things you can eat. And remember, drink lots of water. You have the best advantage of all, your home and can tinkle without waiting. Drink, drink, drink! And read, read, read. Read Dr Gott's book every night. Read those testimonials. Start planning today for starting the program on Saturday. Get pumped. Be an unstoppable force. Get positive about change and pissed about the status quo! Start shopping catalogue's for cute outfits. There's some motivation. 150 this morning. I haven't prepared a proper meal since Tuesday. Just snack foods. It has been such a crazy week. I really ended up stretching myself for a couple of days straight. I guess it just seemed like there was too much going on. Cooking was way at the bottom of my list. I really wanted to be in the 140's, solidly, before I went to MI on Friday. I wanted to be able to say I've lost 40 lbs. That thought has been circling around my brain for a while, but, you know what? It doesn't matter. What a silly thing for me to concentrate on! Yesterday, I tried on my size 10's, and maybe they don't look as bad as I thought. They are stretchy, so that why. But I just need to think about eating better everyday and let the rest take care if itself. I can do that. Later. |
| Hilda | posted 21-Dec-2008 11:16pm Went to JC Penney yesterday after everything had melted and it was in the high 50's. I had stayed in for 3 days last week because of ice and fear of falling and getting my mom out and her falling. Well, I ended up falling right next to the back of my car. I skinned up the palm of my hand where I caught myself on the curb, wrenched my knee. I was sore last night, but ok this morning. My hand is still covered in band aids, but I can type and manage ok. Never did get to order those pants, tough. I think I stepped on some wet leaves. Not sure. |
| Triplet Mom | posted 22-Dec-2008 1:06am Hooray- congratulations on your weight loss and even attempting to try the NFNS. It it tough but hang on there. I will be cheering for you. Today- I wrapped the kids gifts-each one will be getting a bike and helmet. Dropped by at Costco to pick up the gifts and wrapping paper. Since I work full time, I always shop at Costco. When I am work my husband take the kids to school. When I home, my husband works the 3:00 - 11:00 a.m. shift at an Air Force Base. The kids have winter break and my husband and I are off for 2 weeks. We will be spending christmas at home. My family and friends are coming over. My home will be a hotel for the next two weeks. I don't mind because I love having family and friends over. We plan to do the simple things, baking NFNS desserts, visit the neighborhood chrismtas lights. etc. and visit arts and Crafts show at the local church, go to a movie and visit ice skating rink. For The christmas dinner I will be making an all NFNF dishes then I don't have to worry what I will be eating. If any of my relatives want to bring a dish they are welcome. I always tell friends and family my whole family eats organic, no flour and no sugar. Once I started this diet, I feel so much healthier. For snacks today, I cut up potatoe into small wedges, drizzled with olive oil and baked in the oven. I also cut up corn tortilla into wedges and baked in the over. I served it with humuus dip. I had friends over for coffee-made the banana bread and pineapple oatmeal muffing. My friends loved it and did not know they were eating NFNS desserts. |
| Debster | posted 22-Dec-2008 1:09am We had a great day today. Celebrated early Christmas dinner. Had about 9 people over for dinner and everything went well. We had a spiral ham that had a sugary glaze. I ate just a little of it, but everything else was a-okay. Hilda, sorry to hear about your fall. Hope you are okay. Connie, Jerry sounds like a gret guy...coffee in bed and all. Well, I am exhausted. Off to bed. Good night. |
| Anonymous | posted 22-Dec-2008 2:29am Hilda hope your feeling better. |
| Bronwyn | posted 22-Dec-2008 4:45am Hey triplet Mum.....what do you use for sweetener. I notice you bake a lot and I just wondered what sweetener you use. You have truly made this a lifestyle for you and your family.....it sounds like you stick with NFNS in everything you do. It is this dedication to doing NFNS no matter what that has made you so successful. I haven't really done very much baking in the NFNS style.....I have continued to bake occasionally but usually old style.....sometimes I don't eat it but I can't lie the sad truth is that often I do. The last two nights I have gone out shopping around midnight. I know it sounds crazy but it is great there isn't any traffic and the stores aren't busy other than with all the staff stocking the shelves. Of course I am limited in the stores that I can shop in.....only 2 or 3 all night places like Wal Mart and another Canadian big box store. Well it is now almost 3 I guess I better get to bed. |
| Connie | posted 22-Dec-2008 10:30am Hilda, bless your heart! I am glad to hear your feeling ok now, at least you seem to be healing. I remember when I was growing up in MI, I always fell at least once a year. And it was always when trying to get in a car from a curb. The snow and ice always made a ramp that I would slide down. Be careful! Here's what to do with those pants from Penneys, you can get the item # off the web site. Then call the order phone number and have them shipped to the store. Maybe you already did that. I didn't want you to think you have to go to the store to order them. Get well. Debbie, I was thinking about buying a spiral ham for Christmas dinner. What kind did you buy? We are having a very relaxed day and dinner on Christmas. Less is more. Bronwyn, I'm actually considering shopping at the mall today. This morning on my home page there was an article on how drastic prices have been cut due to the dismal sales. So, if I can get motivated, I might hit the stores looking for some last minute buys. I can't imagine shopping at midnight! Did you find some good buys? Triplet Mom, good luck with all the company! Sounds like you have more than a houseful. I can' wait to get my NFNS cookbook. The things you've made sound delicious. Bronwyn, you should jump into this whole hog and write your own cookbook. I'll buy it. 149 this morning. Great day all. |
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