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No Flour, No Sugar Diet
SummaryDr. Gott's No Flour, No Sugar Diet presents a simple, straight-forward way to lose weight and keep it off for a lifetime. All you need do is eliminate flour and sugar from your diet. DescriptionThis diet book contains common-sense techniques on how to eat better and achieve a healthier lifestyle. It gets you to focus on foods that are nutritional and satisfying. Thus, you can both lose weight and become healthier in the process. You can eat brown rice, lean meats, low-fat dairy products, fruits and vegetables. But, you have to stop eating foods like bagels, pasta, bread, cereal, white rice, cookies, sweets, and cakes. Many excellent recipes are included in the book with have no flour and sugar, yet taste delicious. The approach is to keep things simple by just eliminating flour and sugar, the two primary food ingredients that are causing the obesity problem in America. Our culture has become addicted to sweets. This book helps you break the addiction and get on track for eating healthier while losing that extra weight. HistoryDr. Gott is a medical columnist published in over 350 newspaper daily. He is a practicing physician with a general practice in Connecticut. He's also the director of medicine at Hotchkiss School (a prep-school). CriticismGiving up bread and sweets may simply be too hard for some people. Sugar is in a great majority of products sold today. While the diet sounds simple, implementing it and sticking to it is quiet a challenge. Tags: glycemic-index low-calorie low-carb low-fat no-sweets simple Related Diets: Cambridge Diet Cabbage Soup Diet No-S Diet South Beach Diet Fat Smash Diet |
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| Hilda | posted 13-Jan-2009 1:16am I made sugar -free fat -free "white chocolate "flavor jello instant pudding and was not thrilled with the taste. I'm sticking with the chocolate, banana, butterscotch, and lemon flavors. |
| Kathleen | posted 13-Jan-2009 7:57am Day 16 nfns. Last night snacked on corn chips. That old familiar guilty feeling popped in. Sort of like I shouldn't have eaten them, so what the heck. But not!! Corn chips are okay and I have to steer my mind away from slipping. I feel better each day with nfns. No blizzard in Chicago. Now they are calling for the same thing tomorrow night. Not really disappointed, but kind of. Inclement weather is sometimes exciting!! Brrrr. Debbie: how is your weather? |
| Debbie M. | posted 13-Jan-2009 12:39pm We are just now getting the wind. Snow is flying and its drifting all over. Not so very cold yet. 3 degrees tonight. |
| Connie | posted 13-Jan-2009 2:37pm It is pretty cold here in TN as well. Not northern states cold, but pretty chilly. 149 this morning. Yesterday I finished off the game day snacks that I loved. Today I went and bought some much less fattening things. Bad news yesterday, my favorite cat might have cancer. He's very sick and wasting away. I'll find out tomorrow. Say a prayer...thanks! |
| Debster | posted 13-Jan-2009 3:01pm Connie, Sorry to hear about your cat. I have a dachshund who is 14 years old and I think she is starting to fail quickly. I am suspecting cancer too. It's hard watching our animals get older isn't it? |
| Kathleen | posted 13-Jan-2009 6:55pm Connie, where abouts in TN. I know someone who lives in Loudon. He moved there for the milder weather. Turkey sausage, sliced potatoes and onions fried up in a pan. Veggies on the side. It is almost done! I can taste it already!! Stay warm everyone. |
| Hilda | posted 14-Jan-2009 1:01am I am thinking more of a tomato-y sauce with some sort of no flour pasta and the turkey sausage. Or just with scrambled eggs. My sister asked me tonight if I was losing more weight! I think rice cakes are my friend. I have eaten one at bedtime the last couple of nights. Saw the "Curious Case of Benjamin Button" tonight. Loved it. |
| Bronwyn | posted 14-Jan-2009 7:08am Well things have worked out that I am back home earlier than planned. My siblings and I got together in our home town for a little reunion and family business. None of us live there anymore but we still have a home there. There are 5 of us and my oldest bro (the one that had the stomach surgery) and myself are the only ones who have had weight struggles. One of my brothers is so thin and yet eats huge amounts of desserts several times a day......seriously. He finishes off breakfast with pie and ice cream. I find when I really get serious about NFNS that I am not bothered by others eating dessert.....in fact I become a little self righteous and think I am some what superior in my eating habits  On Thursday I will be NFNS for 2 weeks. I don't know whether to weigh in the morning or not as I don't feel any thinner and hate to weigh and find out I am the same weight,,,,,yuck!!!Everyone seems like they are on track. My brother gave me some advise.....it is helpful not critical,,,,"he said that if you want to lose weight you do have to be hungry some times and that you have to plan meals and snacks and then not eat anything in between not even an apple". It is so easy to give into feelings of hunger and immediately eat something instead of waiting to see if you really are hungry for food or just caving into old habits of eating out of boredom or whatever. I think over all I probably eat too much (albeit no flour no sugar and healthy food) to lose weight......I am not sure as I haven't been bingeing on anything. Triplet Mum I was surprised to hear you live in Alaska.....I had got the idea you lived in California. You have talked about Trader Joe )I think it was you) and I know there isn't one in Alaska because my cousin lives in Anchorage and she has said she would love to have a Trader Joe there. Anyways my cousin moved from San Fransico to Anchorage 20 years ago and they absolutely love it there. I think I would struggle with the long, cold, dark days. Did you just move??? Hilda this would be so bizarre...considering we live so far apart but I think I know Gloria Copeland. I think her son married my best friends daughter. I have to ask my friend tomorrow. I know she lives in the south. She and her husband were here this summer for the wedding. She is a preacher or something and I know she sings and has some C.D.'s. I am sure she would be inspirational.....she seemed like a really sharp woman.....anyways just an interesting coincidence, eh!!!! Connie sorry about the cat. You seem to be doing really well with keeping your weight stable and even with a loss as well. Debbie M.....how is your sleep going. I am really going nuts. It is now 5:00 a.m. and I haven't been able to get to sleep yet. I know I have missed some of the above comments I think I will just jump back in at where we are at now. I am going to try for a little sleep again as I have been up for almost 24 hours now. |
| Bronwyn | posted 14-Jan-2009 7:09am Hilda it sounds like maybe you would like a version of jambalaya.... |
| Debbie M. | posted 14-Jan-2009 9:18am Two nights ago I bearly slept. One night ago I took twice the recommended sleeping pill but still didn't sleep much. Last night I felt sleepy at 7, went to bed and slept for 12 hours!! I feel great today. I have been so off track. SLeeping, eating, house work, everything. I'm making steel cut oats today for the first time. I hope they turn out ok, they look odd. 195 today. |
| Debbie M. | posted 14-Jan-2009 9:24am These oats are looking very dry and there is still 10 minutes left to cook. Did I do something wrong? I checked the directions. Must be a typo somewhere. 1 1/4 milk, boil, add 1 1/2 cups oats, simmer 25 minutes. ??? |
| Debbie M. | posted 14-Jan-2009 9:25am Now what do I do with them. What do you put on them if anything? |
| Debbie M. | posted 14-Jan-2009 9:43am I eat them and loved every bite. They are chewy and good. They might be good in plain ff yogurt. Yummy |
| Connie | posted 14-Jan-2009 9:44am Morning. 147 this morning. Feeling a little less bloated. All the snacky food I had been eating caused me to retain a lot of water. Feeling much more back on track. Just waiting on the call from the vet about cat. This has been a very crudy week so far. I am seriously considering staying in bed all day! Wish I could. |
| Hilda | posted 14-Jan-2009 11:04am Do you have to get the steel cut oats at the health food store? I looked at my regular grocery store and all they had was old fashioned Quaker. I am cooking Tinkyada brown rice pasta noodles made from organic whole grain brown rice. Will probably have a Ragu sauce and the turkey sausage and Parmesan cheese on it. One small bowl. |
| Debbie M. | posted 14-Jan-2009 12:26pm Nope, they were at my grocery store. |
| Bronwyn | posted 14-Jan-2009 12:56pm Debbie M. that is very weird cooking instructions for Steel Cut Oats.....the proportions are way off from what I have ever cooked them in. I do 1 cup steel cut oats to 3 cups liquid.....milk, water or combination of the two plus some salt. They do take about 25 minutes to cook. I can't imagine the oats would have been that good.....really. Try them again with the proportions I gave you and I think you will find them much better. You can cut the cooking time a bit by stir frying them dry over heat for a few minutes until they become aromatic and slightly browned.....the proceed as above. |
| Debbie M. | posted 14-Jan-2009 1:33pm Thanks Bronwyn, I will try your method. I like what your brother said about getting hungry in between what you planned to eat that day. |
| Bronwyn | posted 14-Jan-2009 3:15pm Debbie you sound really discouraged. Not seeing the scales move is really tough and it makes it so hard to stay on track. I did get on the scale today for the first time in almost a week. I was really hoping for some good news.....I have been focused and committed. It looks like I am down 1 lb......not exactly a woohoo. I am trying to put this in prospective though. Before the holidays I was hanging around 208 which I was really discouraged about being so heavy and then during the holidays I basically ate whatever and whenever. At one point in the holidays I stood on the scales and it said 212....I was so upset. Then I went totally on NFNS and in a few days I was back to 208.4. Today I was 207.4 So in the long run I guess I have lost some weight but because I have been up and down and up and down it doesn't feel like progress. In all honesty from the 212 to the 207.4 is a good loss but I didn't think of myself as starting at 212 but at 208....I guess in reality I started at 212. I know you have been up and down between 191 and 195 for a while. Now even when you move back down and get to 191 again it starts to feel like you aren't heading any place. How do we really put a stop to this so we can feel success and continued enthusiasm. I know I need to up my drinking, pay more attention to portions, shy away from calorie dense foods and get some movement. Maybe possibly not eat so late at night. Debbie we can do this.....but maybe we have to work harder. You need to work hard enough to break 190....because then you feel like you are succeeding and I have to work hard enough to get below 200....then I will feel like I am succeeding. Your trip to feeling success is shorter than mine.....so get with it and just do it. I WILL NOT QUIT OR GIVE IN!!! |
| Connie | posted 14-Jan-2009 3:35pm That was an inspirational post! When you can say "I will not quit or give in" while being less than excited with your results, YOU ARE ON THE WAY!!!!!! It is so easy to be super charged up and excited when things are going great. Sooo easy. But when you stand strong in the face of semi disappointment, it is just the be all and end all. You can't lose now! Or maybe I should say, you can lose now! The next step, in my humble opinion, is that you will start to notice that on some days you naturally eat less. The longer you eat NFNS, things happen to your appetite. And things happen to your weight. It seems to me that you have crossed a huge milestone. Congrats! No word from vet. I may call and see. |
| Debbie M. | posted 14-Jan-2009 4:03pm You are right Bronwyn, I am dddddddddddiscoraged. I'm having a lot of stress and depression right now. It really should be no reason not to treat my body well but I have to be honest and say it felt good a few times to just "treat" myself to a couple no no's. I've had a pretty good day food wise so I will take your encoragement and run with it. Blessings to your Kitty. Will weigh tomorrow. Congratulations on your pound! It is significant! Keep on keepin on. At my rate you will beat me to your goal. |
| Hilda | posted 14-Jan-2009 4:38pm Went out to get steel cut oats at the health food store and they were out. We are supposed to get really cold here tomorrow, -10 wind chill. I bought a box of clementines. Love them. I fixed the pasta with parmesan cheese and it was so good I didn't even add the turkey sausage. |
| Connie | posted 14-Jan-2009 6:40pm Come on Debbie...you can do it. It only takes being true to NFNS all the time. Even if you overeat, that would be only temporary and easily fixed. It's the calories from F&S that stick to us, then add on top of each other, then become difficult to get off. And they make us sick. I know we have to watch our fat and portion sizes, but if we stick to the plan 100% of the time, our bodies do take over. Yes, it takes time...but we aren't going anywhere. Summer will be here no matter what, so get excited again! I think it sounds like you need to try some new things. When we become depressed, we can't make a good decision. Been there, done that. If you really think your life is being negatively affected by depression, maybe you should talk to a health professional. You would really need to take stock of yourself first. For me, meds saved my life. I was so out of balance. But it is a personal decision. My mom saw how great I was doing and tried an anti-depressant. It did wonders for her and she had always hated the idea of one. One day she said to me "It's just a name...anti-depressant...there's nothing bad about it at all." Looks like my cat, Mr Binks, does not have cancer. But he has a lot of other things. Hyperthyroidism, chronic extreme anemia, renal problems and a few other things. I'm going to take him to a vet that specializes in internal medicine. I'm willing to go and see what he says, but I'm not going to spend a lot of money. I promised my husband I would have some sense about it. I'm 50 this year and for Christmas I wanted diamonds. And I got them. I would not have done that if I knew a big vet bill waited for me. So now I'm kind of stuck. I hope that makes sense and I don't sound like a greedy person. I've never had diamonds in my life, in fact only a few pieces of decent jewelry. We'll see what the vet says. |
| Hilda | posted 14-Jan-2009 7:30pm Everyone needs to have diamonds at least once in their life. I am a CZ girl now. I collect all colors of CZ rings. I have one to match every outfit. I have one that I got at Kohl's about 2 years ago that looks like a huge rock real diamond. I get comments on it all the time. I gave my only real diamond ring to my daughter. I was walking around with a real $1500 or more ring on one finger and a $15 CZ on the other hand. I liked them equally well. Now I am probably going to be spending my money on wigs and healthy food! |
| Hilda | posted 14-Jan-2009 10:43pm That tomato sauce,pasta,parmesan cheese dish gave me indigestion. It must have been the Ragu.I had a spell with acid reflux a couple of years ago and had a couple of times where I couldn't get my breath.GERD. Really scary. I took some medicine for a month and haven't had any trouble since. Don't want to go through that again. |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Jan-2009 12:43am How old is your cat Connie? I totally understand about putting a cap on the vet bill. We must be reasonable with pets, especially the aged ones. Its so easy to let our emotions blind our pocket books. Try to stay level headed. Its totally understandable. Thanks for the pep talk, Connie and Bronwyn. I needed that. Connie, I am on anti-depressants and have been for years. They totally saved my life as I truely thought my children would be better off with someone else. I thought if the end of my life would come it would be a relief. I don't have those thoughts anymore. My depression is much better now but still comes back to a lesser degree a couple times a year. PMS is really bad for me sometimes too. I really need to exercise but can't get motivated to get out of the house or even dust off those stupid videos. I know it will pass. I just need to force myself like I have to force myself to do laundry and dishes. Oh Spring hurry up.......... |
| Kathleen | posted 15-Jan-2009 1:37am I am beginning to believe that sugar is addictive. I know I could go back to all that sugar eating if I even have any. But, I feel so good without it. I completed day 16!! Depression is very difficult. Hear, Hear on the anti-depressants. I have been taking them for years. Not sleeping was one of the hardships of my depression. Feeling better everyday on nfns. We can all feel better! Tomorrow is a new day. Finished off today with bananas. Sure is better than 2-4 poptarts!!! Yippee!! |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Jan-2009 2:21am Just returned from my book club.....holy moly one of my friends has been eating vegan for about 6 months. I hadn't seen her for a two or three months,,,,she missed book club one month and I did one month and then we didn't have it in December. I had thought she was so thin last time I saw, in fact I had never really realized that she was heavy in the first place. I would say she may have weighed 135 to 140, She has lost 45 lbs. and has a totally different body shape than I realized she had. I was shocked......she looked pretty sexy. Not even in my dreams could I ever reach the thinness she has. |
| Connie | posted 15-Jan-2009 9:01am Debbie, a god friend of mine had to change her ant-depressant because she had taken it for so long it was no longer working. Maybe you should try and decide if yours is still working. Wow Bronwyn! Seeing a friend changed so dramatically is a surprise. But I think she must have changed more than just eliminating meat. She must have cut her calories as well. She probably lost a lot of the calories by eliminating the things that go with meat as well. Does she eat dairy? Ashley Judd does not eat any. I read that recently. I can't imagine that! Off to work...great day everyone. |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Jan-2009 9:35am 193 today. Bronwyn, I think my body would change dramatically like you friends did. I've been heavy for so long many of my friends have never known my real body shape. I have tried other anti-depressants. Some worked, some didn't. The roller coaster swings so wildly I'm afraid to change. Connie, how did you get off anti-depressants? I have dreams of someday being free of them. Had some left over steal cut oats today. They were dry but I like the flavor and the chewiness of them. Must grocery shop today. |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Jan-2009 1:15pm Debbie M.,,,,,seriously your steel cuts oats have to be gross. You need to cook some fresh ones with the ratio of 1 cup oats to 3 fluid. Debbie M. When you warm them up warm them in a little milk. I so totally relate to your statement that your friends don't even know your real body shape. I have been heavy for so long that my present friends never knew me thin and the ones that did don't remember because it has been too long. My friend that lost all of the weight looks so stunning.....she was always told that she looked like Jennifer Aniston and believe now she truly does. Seriously I was just blown away when she opened the door last night to let me in.......she had on a really cute sexy sleeveless top (really toned, thin arms) a pair of really slim jeans with her top tucked in and a great belt. She has naturally tanned looking olive complexion and hair very much like Jennifer Aniston. It was difficult to not want to just melt into the sidewalk.....hard to not be so jealous. She basically did the "Skinny Bitch" program. I have the book and I was just reading it this morning......I don't think I could do that program and I am opposed to all of the soy they recommend, Overall she is totally Vegan.....no dairy or meat at all. Connie with vegans I guess they would be cutting calories by virtue of cutting out calorie dense food like meat and dairy. I know last night she had a beautiful fruit platter and lots of organic, dark chocolate. I of course didn't have any chocolate and those who did ate it in very reasonable amounts.....which has always been my probesm. |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Jan-2009 1:41pm I will try the oats with your recommendation. I have to tell you that I had Triplet Moms snack idea. Plain FF yogurt with sliced almonds and raisins. The first bite was a bit sour but by the end it was sweet and yummy. I'm looking forward to having that again soon. Had a boiled egg and oats for breakfast with a sip of OJ. I went shopping and bought out the store. Just kidding. I went to Aldi and got a heaping cart full for 150.00. I still need to go to a regular store to finish up but it is so so helpful to have things you love in the house. Thanks for putting up with my bad attitude and grumpiness for the last couple weeks. I'm actually feeling better today. We have a foot and a half of snow on the ground and its 5 degrees. Chicken and rice for supper. Here's to our new up and coming bodies!~ |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Jan-2009 1:49pm Debbie M. I too have been eating plain yoghurt (what does FF mean,,,Fat Free...Full fat)....i find the fat free ones very tart so I don't buy that but I also put dried fruits in it. Just FYI I love the sugar free dried bing cherries.....35 calories for 40 grams vs. raisins 135 calories for 40 grams. I also dice the cherries and cook them in my steel cut oats....or chop and apple to cook in my oats. |
| Hilda | posted 15-Jan-2009 2:18pm Sugar is addictive AND a depressant. Getting off it can only make you feel better. Everyone always recommends exercise for treating depression, too. |
| Kathleen | posted 15-Jan-2009 4:39pm I never before would have believed that sugar was addictive, but now I do. I cannot imagine even having a little right now, because that would lead to a binge. I feel so clear headed and calm in my 18th day of nfns. Not looking to get off meds, but I tell you I am feeling great!!! |
| Connie | posted 15-Jan-2009 6:12pm Debbie, I am still on my anti-depressant. I have no plans of getting off it any time soon. I take Lexapro. So does my mom. Bronwyn, you need to tell me about the "skinny bitch" (what a name!) program. I've never heard of it. It's cold here. 9 tonight. |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Jan-2009 6:45pm Connie it isn't just the name of the book that is a little questionable.....obviously they were going for the "shock factor" but all throughout the book they use language I am not fond of. Reading through the daily menus I can see you that you would lose weight but it sounds a little starvation diet to me..... but then I maybe need to do a little more of a starvation type program if I want to have success. Apparently Victoria Beckham was spotted carrying this book at an airport a while back. There was a write up about it and it gave some promotion to the book. One article I read thought that the title of the book totally suited Victoria Beckham and a nutritionalist who looked at the program thought any woman who ate all the recommended Soy products in the program would definitely have a reason to be a "B" because her hormones would be so out of whack. Come to think of it my friend would be as thin as Victoria but she has choosen not to eat as much soy as recommended by the program. |
| Kathleen | posted 15-Jan-2009 7:09pm I am going to get ns jams/jellies to try on the Ezekiel bread. Had my first piece tonight, toasted with butter. Very dense and filling. Can't believe it has no flour. |
| Kathleen | posted 15-Jan-2009 7:23pm So cold here that tomorrow school is canceled along with today! Down to -25F tonight! Chicago is a block of ice (and corrupt politicians!!:P) |
| Connie | posted 15-Jan-2009 8:40pm I googled the diet. No way I could adhere to that one! But, it does make me think, again, that I eat too much cheese! And though I generally eat meat once a day, it is never fried. So, I think I will try to cut my cheese consumption way down. It will not be easy. I ate so much meat and cheese last weekend. I'm ready to stay away for a little while. |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Jan-2009 8:40pm Correction.....that is how thin my friend is.....she is as thin as victoria beckham. |
| Hilda | posted 15-Jan-2009 8:46pm I was also offended by some of the Skinny Bitch book language. I read some if it when my sister had it. I think our way is best. Next best is no white flour,no white rice,no white potatoes. Everyone agrees on no sugar. |
| Debbie M. | posted 15-Jan-2009 10:45pm Mine is Cymbalta. I've tried others but never Lexapro. I think I know someone who is on that. Skinny * haha. Never heard of that one too. Joke: You know why they call skinny girls bitches? They're bitchy because they are so darn hungry. hehe (good to know there is always something we can have) I did great today on NF/ NS. I think the oat meal really helped stave off my cravings in the afternoon like the book said. I guess this program really does work. You just have to DO IT! Yes Bronwyn, I meant FF in Fat Free. NS jams are really good on Ezek bread. So good I can leave off the butter. My kids are off of school tomorrow too. That means 4 days off in a row. Maybe I can get my 13 year old to exercise with me. :o) You know I had some sugar in the last week as I confessed to earlier. Maybe that is what brought on my depression. I'm so not cheating again. Guess what came in the mail today? Home made fudge all the way from Arkansas! I told my husband to hide it from me as I might eat some in the night. I resisted all evening and I'm proud of myself. I had orange segments and a rice cake instead. Good night all. |
| Stacie (Anastasia) | posted 15-Jan-2009 11:11pm Hi this is triple mom, I am back home in cold Alaska again. I was on business in Las Vegas, I stock up on Trader Joe's when I'm there or in NY. I had bad PMS. I know how it feels to be depressed and Blah. Take apples or any non sugared fruits. Sometimes if I have canned pineappled I throw away the juice, drain the pineapple, wash it with water. Put the fruits or sliced apples on a baking dish, add your mashed bananas on tip, 2 cups of oatmeal mixed with cinnamon and nutmeg. bakt this in the oven until oatmeal turns brown. I eat this with yogurt. I believe the Apple crisp or cobbler recipe is in the NFNS cookbook. Cheers NFNS group, remember to take one day at a time. Writing really helps-just buy a smallnote and journal your own thoughts, food you ate and why, it helped me. I always snacked in front of the TV so if I want to watch TV-I ride my stationary bike or do some sort of activity, folding laundry, sewing, or knitting--at least I know I am burning some calories. In Alaska our mall is having a winter arts and craft show. My hubby will watch the kids all day Saturday so my friends and I can attend workshops and demos on quilting and knitting. Sunday my husband will be taking classes at home improvement shop, go to the gym to play indoor basketball with his buddies. It is great we can each have a day to ourselves. I hope everyone here takes time to enjoy a cup of coffee or tea, visit friends. Talk you later, Triplet mom, Stacie |
| Stacie (Anastasia) | posted 15-Jan-2009 11:18pm I forget to add. The skinny bitch book does not work. I did that diet before NFNS. I believe NFNS works for me. I don't feel hungry. My husband is 100& NFNS now. My kids are too. I made my husband a chicken sandwich with Ezkiel bread and humuss and roasted veggies. He also loves the banana cookies and muffins I bake. My kids love NFNS. So far my kids are healthy. |
| Bronwyn | posted 15-Jan-2009 11:40pm I have spent some time looking through the "Skinny B" book today and I am just totally turned off and offended by it. The menu plans have all kinds of fake foods...."tofu hot dogs", "fake steak"......honestly this is highly processed junk with tons of soy protein in it that throws off our hormones. I like real food.....not fake alternatives. Personally I can't stand hot dogs why would I want to eat fake ones. |
| Hilda | posted 16-Jan-2009 12:36am Does anyone eat Wasa Crispbread? |
| Kathleen | posted 16-Jan-2009 7:49am Day 19 nfns!! Weigh in on the 26th! Stacie: can you tell me the recipes for the banana cookies and muffins? sound good. |
| Connie | posted 16-Jan-2009 10:05am Kathleen, we are all holding our breath for your weigh in! I can't wait to read what you will post on that day. Bronwyn, I'm happy for your skinny friend IF she's happy. And if she's happy and can sustain that diet, well, more power to her. If she can't sustain it, I hope she doesn't one day face a backlash that ends up putting on additional pounds. I know I could not eat like that for the rest of my life. But, if I want I can modify this diet to be more "skinny bitch" like. For instance, very light, or no cheese. Very limited meat. Only unprocessed meats. Very low grains. More fresh veggies. Things like that can cut my calories and not make me crazy. A friend of mine shops at Cosco and found some crackers that are wonderful. They are Cruchmaster Multi Grain Crackers. NFNS and they are really, really good. Off to work today. Cold, only 16 right now. Later friends. |
| Connie | posted 16-Jan-2009 10:08am I forgot to say thanks to Stacie for all the encouragement! And Debster...where are you? You've got to hang with us. No matter what your success is. Get it? Check in, ok? |
| Debbie M. | posted 16-Jan-2009 11:29am Hello all my friends, It was -15 over night. I can't remember it being that cold for a long time. It's just -4 now. Brrr My husband said to keep the kids inside today. They were watching cute cat video's on YouTube. I hope it dosn't get ugly here today. My kids argue alot. Speaking of cats, how is your cat Connie? Kathleen, I can't wait for your weigh in day too. Got my new cycle this AM. That explains a lot of my depression with PMS too. I took those "gross" dry oats and added them to my yogurt, almonds and raisins. Wow, that made it even better! I will try the dried cherries too. Thanks for the tip Bronwyn. Cherrio to you all. Have a warm and cozy day. Hey Debster, Give us a jingle. |
| Bronwyn | posted 16-Jan-2009 12:50pm Debbie I read some reviews on a game called "Wild Planet Hyper Dash".......it sounded like a perfect game for families who kids are stuck inside......check it out on Amazon.com |
| Debbie M. | posted 16-Jan-2009 1:45pm ok, thanks |
| Bronwyn | posted 16-Jan-2009 7:58pm Whew....quiet here today. Well I am continuing with NFNS.....each day I try to be more conscience of portions. I am not eating as many nuts and I am not eating (or I haven't to this point in the 2 weeks) been eating corn chips. I think this diet is basically about eating lots of good food but food that is also not as calorie dense. Even though there are things like nuts and chips that are NFNS....they are too calorie dense to have on a weight loss program. I don't plan to eliminate nuts but I will restrict the amount I allow myself. I am not craving chocolate.....weird, eh!!!! We are having friends over for East Indian food.....which we are picking up. It will be difficult to avoid flour and possibly sugar but I am not aware of anything being sweet. The rice is white but at least it is basmati which is lower on the glycemic index. Hard to be perfect but I am really working on it. I will avoid the Nann bread that will help some what. |
| Hilda | posted 16-Jan-2009 8:57pm I have decided that I eat way too fast. Most meals I eat alone. Even when I am having popcorn I have a whole bowl down in no time. A bad habit I have to work on. |
| Stacie | posted 16-Jan-2009 9:02pm I have trouble with the copy/paste feature. I visit this website for no flour no sugar recipes- www.happy2beme.com The blogger was on NFNS diet. I plan to teach NFNS cooking this summer at a local parks and rec and will share my recipes with you. My friend who is a registered dietition and also a former pastry chef wants to test the recipes first and give nutritional breakdown information. We both plan to teach the classes. My friend was also on NFNS for 5 years. She weighed at 310 pounds after also having twins. She decided to go on NFNS with Kaiser doctor's permission. She now weight 116 pounds. It took her 5 years. She did join a gym and exercised 3 days a week thought. I really believe the diet helped me but you have to be focused and willing to keep on track. Hang on. |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Jan-2009 4:54am I just read through a couple websites about this new Alli drug. Its just like Xenical only half the prescription strength so you just double the dose. Basically harmless unless you take anti-rejection drugs. Also it is recommended that you take a multi vitamin at bedtime. Any thoughts here? It blocks the absorbtion of 30% of the fat we eat. Its ecommended to eat no more than 15 grams of fat per meal to reduce side effects of gas and oily bowel movements. Ewwww Even if I were brave enough to give it a try its too expensive for me. Has anyone tried it? |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Jan-2009 5:00am Debster where are you? Don't make me worry! |
| Kathleen | posted 17-Jan-2009 9:28am I have only seen the commercials for the Alli. I am concerned with any diet drug that it could turn out to be harmful. I am glad of the nfns because there is no risk, and it works. There is no magic pill, and I would not want to worry about counting fat (or anything) and be concerned about excess gas, etc... I am sticking to nfns. It is a discipline, but no chemicals, counting, or depriving. Day 20 nfns. I am going to breakfast this morning and dinner tomorrow. I will make good choices. 8 days til weigh in. NFNS, NFNS! We can all do this!! You guys are my inspiration! |
| Kathleen | posted 17-Jan-2009 9:30am I really don't know if I would have been able to stick to this if I hadn't found you guys!! Really! I look forward to entering each day. Maybe like journaling, but real people see it, I don't have to pay to go to a meeting, and there is great support and ideas! Thank you all. |
| Anonymous | posted 17-Jan-2009 9:31am Morning |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 9:34am Good heavens! I posted a mini novel on here last night and when I submitted it, it disappeared. I posted another lengthy one this morning and when I submitted, it disappeared too. What the heck? |
| Anonymous | posted 17-Jan-2009 9:36am Ok, it seems to be working now. Let's see, where was I? I guess I'll write the same post for the third time! But later, my battery is running down. |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 9:39am It keeps dropping my name! |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 12:12pm It wouldn't post my latest. |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 12:13pm I can only post small writings for some reason. I'm fine, hope you all are too. |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Jan-2009 12:27pm Connie I want to read your "mini novel"!!! Hilda I do think that slowing down our eating is a good idea....they say it takes 20 minutes for your stomach to signal your brain that you are full.....so if we eat too fast we can can eat way more than we need before our brain has let us know we are satisfied. Debbie M. I think that Alilli stuff likes so gross....at least I have heard gross stories. I don't think you would dare leave the house.......... man something is weird with this site today....I am having trouble with it today too |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 1:21pm I can't believe I'm going to try and type this again! I'll do it in segments so maybe it will go through. Today or tomorrow we are taking daughter back to the dorm. She really gave us fits this time around. We found out she failed most of her classes. She just quit going. I wanted her to drop out, get a full time job and have a large dose of reality, but Jerry said 500,000 people lost there jobs last month. So, back to school for her. I need to be away from her for awhile. Every time I look at her I want to squeeze her neck! |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 1:26pm Debbie, I don't know anyone on Alli, but I am very suspicious of drugs for weight loss. I remember 15, or so, years ago a bunch of clinics were having huge success with shots. Then the patients started have irreversible heart damage. Clinics closed, law suits ensued. Nope, we can control our weight with what we eat. It wasn't that long ago you were NFNS 100% of the time and losing! What do you think happened? I miss your gung ho attitude. I'm sure it's still there, maybe just buried under all the snow you've been getting. Come back Debbie. You can do it. |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 1:30pm Debster, where in the heck are you? It's not nice to keep your friends waiting. We miss you and care about you, so dish girl...what's going on? |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 1:32pm This site is messed up today. I have retyped often and some of it will not go through. Love to all. |
| Kathleen | posted 17-Jan-2009 2:07pm Chose a pizza omlette. eggs, shrooms, peppers, sausage, mozzarella topped with pizza sauce. Yum, and it took care of breakfast and lunch. Oh, hash browns. Diet pop as always. I am good to go for a while. Maybe a nap would be nice. Remember, no pills or counting needed on nfns. This costs us nothing and there is no negative health risk. It is all good! C'mon gals! We can do it! |
| Hilda | posted 17-Jan-2009 2:22pm I am down to 177. Started at 194 last April. Ready to go down a size! Yeah for this week. Popcorn and rice cakes are my friends when I am hungry. Still searching for the steel cut oats. Will go back to the health food store today. |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Jan-2009 3:16pm Your daughter was probably filled with guilt....she had to know she had bombed and all of the quilt feelings that go with that. Then she also had the dread of waiting for you guys to find out the truth. I don't think that scenario is at all unusual....the sad part and I know this from my own personal experience is that stupid year is on your transcript for ever and you can never change it. It plays a large part in my not going to grad school....I had some really poor grades for about 3 semesters (I was just at school fooling around and wasting my Dad's money)....I was put on probation with the threat of not being able to return if I didn't get my grades up. Of course I was still stuck with those stupid grades. I could never get my grade point average much above 3.1 or 3.2 even though I had gotten serious in school and done really well my last couple of years. The folly of youth can play havoc for years. Good for you Hilda that must feel good to have broken through the 180's. I think your loss is about 2 lbs. per month and that should be a solid, good loss that will not easily find its way back. You have really just kept going on the program even though you weren't seeing the continual big drops.....oh how I wish I had stuck in there with you and been consistent. Debbie there you go....patience and perseverance.....just keep going. Last night my husband and our friends were eating the Naan bread and lots bigger portions than me. They were also eating chocolates. I didn't cave but what really was the struggle for me was the Naan bread not the chocolates. Eating East Indian without Naan bread just is not that delicious. Gee I do wonder about Debster.....wasn't yesterday her weigh in at Weight Watchers? let us know how you are doing Debstser. Kathleen.....you made an egg omelet and put pizza toppings on it.....great idea!!! |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 3:18pm Good for you Hilda. Do you ever wonder where you would be at without NFNS? Maybe a few lbs more than 194? I know I would be over 190 by now without it. My sister talked me into reading the Twilight series. Not my normal read, but very good. I just finished book 2 while my nails are drying. My husband is peeved that I am still in bed reading, polishing, etc. But he is just going to have to get over it. I'm taking the day for myself. I have also been doing the checkbook, bills, but he probably wont notice that. Oh well! |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 3:23pm Bronwyn, thank you for the sensible outlook over daughters screw up. She has done this before...one bad semester, one good semester. Back and forth. It is getting old. Good for staying strong last night. I walked in the door at 5 pm yesterday and there were 2 boxes of pizzas and 2 bags of cheesy bread on the counter. I had a large bowl of cereal. Go me. Today we have iced sugar cookies fresh out of the oven. I'm not tempted. Go me again! |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Jan-2009 3:32pm Oh no Connie.....iced sugar cookies.......okay that is just too much  I am sure glad they aren't on my cupboard. |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Jan-2009 3:36pm Connie don't you get a little sick of Bella's ridiculous lustfulness for Edward's stone cold chest and icy concrete lips |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Jan-2009 3:41pm Oh I just got thinking Connie I am just finishing book 3 so possibly the things I refer to haven't occurred yet in book 1. Things get even more weird as you go though.....believe me.....weird!!!! Then again you will have noticed that it did not stop me from reading them......I have the 4th one here as well  |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 5:38pm Yes, it find parts of the book draggggg, and are annoying. But I keep reading. I try to remember her target audience. I think she wrote for a younger crowd, I could be wrong. My sister gushes over them and she is getting on my nerves about them as well. You sound very well Bronwyn. Debbie, a while back you asked about credit card debt, or commented on it or something. I wanted to tell you I have spent what was left of my inheritance, after the attorney's got fat on it, on debt. It feels good and bad at the same time. A good friend of mine just filed bankruptcy. Her husband took a 40% cut in pay. I'm not sure how I feel about it. They only have to pay 5 cents on the dollar. They are discharging 90,000 worth of debt. 70 K in credit cards. Anyway, they get to keep their house and cars. And they have a nice house and cars. For me, using the money to pay back debt was never a question, I knew I'd do it. How can I complain...I got diamonds for Christmas! I hope to be completely out of debt in 2 years. That's my goal. I wish it could be sooner. I believe credit cards are truly the devils work. But we were young and dumb and began our lives together backwards. |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Jan-2009 6:38pm I am dragging today. I don't know I don't feel like doing much and I do have things I should be doing. I also feel hungry for something and nothing I have eaten today took the edge off wanting something.....something like I don't know maybe iced sugar cookies Do you have days you just feel hungry but nothing sounds that good. I wish I could drop some weight that would help because I have been so good and still it isn't really showing up. It isn't showing up in the way my clothes fit or anything. My husband thinks I can't expect results without exercising and he is probably right.Debt is such a stressful thing. In today's and with out any income at the moment I wish we were totally out of debt.....no income but the bills don't stop. |
| Connie | posted 17-Jan-2009 7:16pm When I feel unsatisfied with food, I go for something with Splenda on it. Cinnamon raisin bread or cereal. That usually hits the spot for me. I wondered how your situation was going. Does your husband have any leads on a new job? How are is spirits? I'm sure you are being very supportive. Something will happen. I'm sure it doesn't seem like it now, but life has a way of working out. We do what we have to do. No change in the fit of your clothes? Don't let it get to you. You are going down the right path...stick with it. I am convinced you can lose without exercising. In fact, exercise can increase your hunger. I'm not saying it's bad, but maybe it would be wise to really be way down the road with NFNS before you begin. I hate that it takes longer for your results to show up...but they will show up. |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Jan-2009 9:11pm I am off to the store I just am not really feeling satisfied with anything I have had today and I need to go get some Ezekial bread and give that a try. I have been giving some thought to doing NFNS and vegan to try to shift some weight. I don't know,,,,,,Vegan has to be really tough. Debster was the weigh in bad......are you discouraged......are minds can only think of negative things when you don't let know. You can't stop......your knees need you to do this. |
| Hilda | posted 17-Jan-2009 10:40pm I had my little thickburger treat again today. Threw away the bun and put it on a toasted Ezekiel English muffin with a little side of guacamole on the burger with lettuce and tomato. That was my dinner from Hardee's before church tonight. |
| Bronwyn | posted 18-Jan-2009 12:08pm Hilda last night I bought Ezekial hamburger buns, I haven't tried them yet. |
| Connie | posted 18-Jan-2009 8:19pm She is gone and there is peace in the valley!!!!!! Doesn't that sound awful? But it's true, I swear. I love her and I want everything good for her, but we can't live under the same roof for so long. I made it to the store today, finally. All set for a NFNS week. I hope everyone is well. Debbie, haven't heard from you in a while. How are you doing? Debster...you better start typing something soon. I'm thinking maybe you are just in a very busy spot and will check in again as soon as you get back to work. Don't make me come to whatever town your in and tromp through all the dental offices looking for you!!!! Tonight I plan on reading more of book 3 an sleeping like a rock. (I hope!) Tomorrow off to the vet. Night all. |
| Bronwyn | posted 18-Jan-2009 9:39pm Oh Connie are you on book 3 already......I hate that I keep reading them because I think they are so stupid but for some reason I keep reading............. |
| Hilda | posted 18-Jan-2009 10:19pm I have not bought the Ezekiel hamburger buns yet. How many calories are they? |
| K10 | posted 18-Jan-2009 10:27pm I have enjoyed reading this blog. I read some from the top down the other day. Today I started reading from Jan. 1st through the end. My hubby and I are starting this way of life tomorrow. My parent's are doing it as well. It sounds like something we may actually be able to do. Hubby and I did Atkins a few years ago and we both had problems with short-term memory issues. Hubby and I are also starting a Bible study called Lose it for Life. I am so grateful that he and I are going at this together. We are going to weigh and measure tomorrow and Hubby plans on weighing once per month, I may do that, but I may not weigh for a long time. It becomes such a head game for me. If I am doing well, I will eat as a reward. If I do poorly, I will eat because I am depressed. I am so tired of being addicted to food. I made a big change in my life on Jan.6th, I gave up Pepsi. Pepsi is my coffee/tea/booze. I would drink about 2-3 cans at least/day. I haven't had any problems with cravings, I am so grateful for that. I look forward to participating in this group. I enjoy reading how you encourage each other. |
| Connie | posted 18-Jan-2009 10:29pm OMG Bronwyn! I think they are pretty lame as well. And I have a super overactive imagination. To me, they are the wordiest, drag-on-iest stories I have read in awhile. If I said that to my sister, she would be snippy with me. She did say book 2 wasn't great, and book 3 was a little better. But, she also said book 4 would blow me away. Hmmmm, I doubt it. But if it does, I'll be the first to admit it. It's frustrating because I have a pile of other reads I'm wanting to get to. I'll knock this series out and be dine with it. By the way, she was very disappointed with the movie. A friend of hers told her to see it again because it gets better with additional viewings. So she did and agrees. She has seen it 5 times so far. I will not be going to see it...literature snob that I am. It wasn't that long ago I had to put my foot down and tell her I wasn't reading anymore Jodi Picoult. A very talented writer, but not my idea of fiction. I've been watching football again, time to read. |
| Connie | posted 18-Jan-2009 10:36pm Welcome K10...and hubby...and parents! If you have the book, great. If you don't, consider it. Put it in your kitchen on the counter so you can see it every time you get something to eat. Most of us just picked it up at WM. So come on, we need some info. How much are you trying to lose? What part of the country are you living? Kids? Age? Yes, we be nosy folk! And gabby as a rule. So great success to you and yours as you start down this wonderful path. We will always be by your side, as long as you will let us. |
| Kathleen | posted 18-Jan-2009 10:46pm Welcome k10! You all can do it. I am on day 21 of nfns and cruising along well. I notice my stomach is not as poochy. I will weigh in a week from tomorrow. Company Christmas party tonight @ hibatchi restaurant. How easy. Veggies, shrimp, fried rice. nfns. Had fried bananas, but squeezed them out of the batter part. I am very full, but so glad that it is not because of flour or sugar. My daughter failed 3 out of 4 classes in her 1st semester at college. With many other problems in the past (and not so distant) she is not allowed to live at home. Tough love, but Grandparents are housing her now. Don't want her homeless, but entitlement only takes you so far. Stealing, lying, mouthing off. Yikes. She has been gone now for about 16 months. Peaceful here. She was not a good example for her brothers and did nothing for our marriage. Oh, my 14 year old wants to duel with light sabers. Best go and kick his butt!! |
| K10 | posted 18-Jan-2009 10:56pm Connie- Wow! Quick response, that makes me happy. I am waiting for the book to arrive at Borders this week, they were all out. My mom has the recipe book and I will be seeing her in 2 weeks. What is WM? I want to lose approximately 60 pounds, I will know for sure tomorrow how much I will want to lose. You will probably hate me for this, but I live in Southern California and I have been hating the heat. I have lived in the Midwest before and I actually miss the snow. We are supposed to "cool" down this week to the 60's during the day. We may even get some rain. I am 39 and I have 2 girls, R is 14 and K will be 13 next month. I am gabby. I have actually been told I have the gift of gab. ;) I am excited to be starting this chapter of my life. I know I will need your encouragement. I usually am quite motivated the first 5 weeks or so of a new program and then I start the old cycle over. I don't plan on that this time. |
| K10 | posted 18-Jan-2009 10:58pm Hi Kathleen. |
| K10 | posted 18-Jan-2009 11:03pm I am sorry to hear about your daughter. I dropped a lot of classes when I first was in college. Fortunately it was community college, but it was still my dad's money. Add that to some of the many regrets I have had in my life. Tough love is sometimes needed. In the long run she will hopefully grow to appreciate why you did this. It sounds like you did well at dinner. Good job. Enjoy your light saber workout. |
| K10 | posted 18-Jan-2009 11:18pm I have a couple of questions. Who has the dachshund? We have one and she is nearly 4 years old. Her name is Matilda. Who has the failing cat? We have a cat, Jake, who has progressively gotten skinnier. He still eats, drinks, goes potty and acts like himself, so we aren't doing anything about it. We found him as and adult and he could be anywhere from 14-18 years of age. We also have a fat and lazy orange cat her name is Zoe. Just some more info. about me. |
| Bronwyn | posted 19-Jan-2009 1:17am Welcome K10. Listen your "scale" experience is exactly like mine....I just can't decide whether I should throw the scales out or not. It is so dumb that weighing in and losing weight doesn't seem much more helpful than weighing in and finding you have gained or not lose.....geesh dumb scales (I like to think it is the scales that are dumb not me Even with all this I feel a need to weigh everyday. Connie we are both literary snobs I guess. Definitely Twilight was written for young adults but Bella is such a dope I just can't believe that anyone can relate to her. Okay and yes I am a dope because I seem to not be able to put the stupid series to rest until I finish it.....and I can't wait to finish it. I am anxious to get onto my next read which is Book Thief......so I will read like crazy to get finished the stupid Twilight series. If I didn't like a movie I can't believe going 5 times to it.....but then is coming from the woman who is slogging through a series of books she can't believe she is wasting her time on.My SOB (sexy old broads) club is going out to eat on Tuesday and to see "The Secret Lives Of Bees". We have all read the book and have heard that the movie is really good. We were trying to decide between Chinese food or Greek.....I am pulling for Greek as I think there will be better NFNS choices than Chinese. After 2/2 weeks of NFNS I had a little chocolate tonight.....dumb. I didn't eat much like I normally would and I don't feel driven to eat more......I am going to throw the rest out......I don't care that it is Callebaut. The best laid plans of mice and men don't always work out well. I had made poached pears (poached in pear juice and mango juice),,,,,and then served with ice cream, chocolate sauce, raspberries and toasted almond slices. Okay that was for everyone else and I had mine NFNS......the poached pears with sugar free yoghurt, sprinkled with almond slices and raspberries. All was well....my dessert tasted great and then there I was, everyone gone and me in the kitchen with the left over chocolate.....not a good thing. I again confirmed for myself that chocolate and I can't share the same space The dumb thing was I was down a bit in weight this morning......geesh!My cat is missing.....it goes out in the day but it is always at the door around dinner time to come in for the night.....we are really sad. It was a super cool cat. It didn't come home last night and we haven't seen it today......I hope it comes back soon I am really worried about it. We are on an acreage and it plays around here all day.....climbing trees and playing on the porch. |
| Bronwyn | posted 19-Jan-2009 4:58am I couldn't sleep I was worried about my cat......I just found it ...... it had got trapped in the garage.....poor thing,,,,,I don't know what made me think about checking the garage.....what a happy cat!!!! Okay now I am going to so tired in the morning............ |
| Kathleen | posted 19-Jan-2009 8:55am k10: send some warmth this way. We would love to send a wind your way!!:) Bonwyn: good job on not scarfing the whole thing of chocolate. I am not sure if I could have controlled myself. But I sure hope it tasted wonderful! Day 22 for me. Will be weighing in in 6 days. Trying not to get too anxious already. We all know what the scale can do to us!! Off to breakfast, well, to my kitchen I go. Light saber fight was fun, but boy was I winded. I will start a little exercise each day or so after my weigh in!! Good day to all! |
| Connie | posted 19-Jan-2009 9:10am Morning. I love the "SOB" moniker! We should come up with something for us. Glad your cat made it home. Mine has gone missing a couple of times and I had the whole neighborhood involved in the search. I really am the most intrusive person at times, if I like you...you can't get rid of me! Sort of. K10, WM is WalMart. Your weight loss goal is going to happen. I hate it for those with the love/hate scale relationship. I don't know what to say about it. If it affects your willpower, then do what you have to do. CHOCOLATE MUST GO OUT OF THE HOUSE...CHOCOLATE MUST GO OUT OF THE HOUSE...CHOCOLATE MUST GO OUT OF THE HOUSE. Enough said. You continue to do so well Kathleen, kudos to you. Debbie and Debster...CAN YOU TELL I AM YELLING...WHERE ARE YOU GUYS? Time to get ready to go to vet. |
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