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No Flour, No Sugar Diet


Dr. Gott's No Flour, No Sugar Diet presents a simple, straight-forward way to lose weight and keep it off for a lifetime. All you need do is eliminate flour and sugar from your diet.


This diet book contains common-sense techniques on how to eat better and achieve a healthier lifestyle. It gets you to focus on foods that are nutritional and satisfying. Thus, you can both lose weight and become healthier in the process.

You can eat brown rice, lean meats, low-fat dairy products, fruits and vegetables. But, you have to stop eating foods like bagels, pasta, bread, cereal, white rice, cookies, sweets, and cakes.

Many excellent recipes are included in the book with have no flour and sugar, yet taste delicious.

The approach is to keep things simple by just eliminating flour and sugar, the two primary food ingredients that are causing the obesity problem in America. Our culture has become addicted to sweets. This book helps you break the addiction and get on track for eating healthier while losing that extra weight.


Dr. Gott is a medical columnist published in over 350 newspaper daily. He is a practicing physician with a general practice in Connecticut. He's also the director of medicine at Hotchkiss School (a prep-school).


Giving up bread and sweets may simply be too hard for some people. Sugar is in a great majority of products sold today. While the diet sounds simple, implementing it and sticking to it is quiet a challenge.


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posted 26-Jan-2009 10:22am

Yeah! Kathleen. Awesome job, way to go, your on your way and all that good stuff.

I didn't eat anything after dinner last night. That is a first in a long time. Yeah for me.
posted 26-Jan-2009 11:04am

Trying to get ready for an ice storm or icy roads later today and tomorrow. A whole sack of potatos is a great loss! I read another tip from South Beach. Skip the cookie and chip aisle in the supermarket. Spend your time in the produce section. Take 5 pieces of fruit to work every Monday so you are prepared for the week.

Let your green tea steep for at least 3 minutes to maximize the polyphenol content(keeps arteries clear). Don't add milk to it.

As you focus on having a healthy heart and losing weight, eat these eight foods.
Almonds to lower bad cholesterol, cherries to lower CRP levels, a marker for inflammation in blood vessels, strawberries for same reason, salmon to prevent clotting(farmed is better than wild), oats to lower cholesterol, dark chocolate to relax arteries, pomegranate to improve blood flow to the heart, and green tea to expand arteries. Page 124 and 125 in Jan Feb WW Magazine.
posted 26-Jan-2009 11:31am

Kathleen, you go girl! That is an excellent, excellent start! Weighing in once a month is working for you, so go for it. Next month the news will be just as good, then the month after that and the month after that and so on and so on...! Losing weight and eating so great is such a wonderful gift. As time goes by you will expand your menu options and it wont even seem like dieting. Inches lost really tell the tale.

K10, I'm amazed at your willpower to keep your new weight an unknown as well! When will you find out? Good for you staying away from soda. That is huge. Trust me on this, if you switch to water it will soon become the only liquid that will satisfy your thirst. You will crave it. And it is so good for you, let it happen. I once was told eliminating soda results in a weight loss of ten lbs a year. That's just eliminating one can a day. If you were drinking more than that, the loss will be even greater. When I started NFNS I stopped snacking all the time. Before it seemed like every time I walked in the kitchen I nibbled on something. And it was usually something terrible for me. Now I only snack in between lunch and dinner, and not everyday. Also, I cut out snacking at night. What a huge difference doing those things has made in my weight loss.

146.1 this morning. I have no clothes that fit now besides my 2 pair of jeans. One a size 12 and the other a size 10. This morning I went on line to two of my favorite clothing sites, Soft Surroundings and Coldwater Creek and shopped their clearance items. Such huge discounts to be found. I ordered some slacks.

Great day everyone...stay NFNS and you'll be smiling when you wake up tomorrow.
posted 26-Jan-2009 12:01pm

Connie: Thank you for the encouragement. For how much soda I was drinking I should lose 30 pounds or so. :)

Congrats on not fitting into your clothes for such a good reason. A size 10, I haven't seen that size in a long time. Maybe I will see that size this year. I don't remember what I weighed when I wore that size, but I think it may have been when I was in the 140's somewhere. I have had 2 c-section kids since then. Only time will tell.

Hilda: thanks for the info. Stay safe with those ice storms coming.

Don't hate me but we may see 80 again this week. I can't stand hot weather. 80 is hot to me, I know you all probably think I am crazy, but I love the cold, even the very cold weather of the Midwest. I don't even get to go to the snow in Mammoth this Winter, what a bummer. Hubby has a new job and no time off until December.

Not getting to go on vacations may help me with staying totally NFNS though. A blessing in disguise, that is how I will look at it. :)

We will be camping the beginning of June with my extended family. Can you say food, food, and more food. I said to Hubby last night, maybe when we go in June we will have lost a nice amount of weight and we will not have the food be such an important part of the trip? Everywhere my hubby, kids and I go, it is related to what food we will get in that location. Not a good thing to instill in the kids. I figure if Hubby and I can fix that, maybe it will be removed from our kids way of thinking too?

I just had oatmeal with raisins and cinnamon. I didn't add any sweetner to it, just a touch of milk. If you guys can get Coach's Oats, try to, they are great.

I try to be doing something on the computer when I am eating so I eat slower. I figure whatever works right now. No liquids by the computer though. I am way too clutsy.

Have a great NFNS day everyone.
posted 26-Jan-2009 12:40pm

Check out your Goodwill stores for good deals on even new clothing. I got a new Crazy Horse sweater from JC Penney with the tags still on for $4.
posted 26-Jan-2009 2:13pm

Hi everyone, I just started the NFNS diet last Monday, week went well, weekend not so good!! I was able to resist during the day but at night we went out for dinner with the girls and when I thought I could stop at one glass of wine I just couldnt!! So I will be extra good this week!!
I am a vegetarian so its a little more difficult to stay full, but its helping me eat less so its been great! My goal is 15 pounds, which is the weight I have gained since I got married in July 2007, I weighed myself yesterday and I am down 4 pounds so it has given me lots of encouragement to keep going.
This website is great I have learned a lot!! I just bought Ezekiel bread and cant wait to try it!!

Thanks everyone and good luck!
Debbie M.
posted 26-Jan-2009 2:15pm

Great deal on your sweater Hilda.

K10, Tell me about your camper. We are looking to get a new one soon.
Debbie M.
posted 26-Jan-2009 2:21pm

NitWit, I'm glad you are losing the weight now while its only 15 pounds. Good for you! Over time you could end up like me and others on here and have it be 50 to 100 lbs or more before you know it. Taking it off while its just a little is the smart way to go. It will be off in no time. 4 pounds is a super start. Keep it up and then all you'll have to do is maintain!
Good Job!~
posted 26-Jan-2009 4:31pm

I am convinced that the best sandwich ever is a hamburger patty with lettuce. tomato, onion, and guacamole on a toasted Ezekiel English muffin. I just went to Burger King and bought 4 Whopper Jrs off the dollar menu. Order with lettuce, tomato, and onion only. I took off the buns and threw them away, froze the patties, and refrigerated the letuce and tomato that came on them. With some Wholly Guacamolle from the grocery store, I am set to be snowed in. That will be mny treat sanwich over the next few days. I also need some Swiss Miss no sugar added hot chocolate if I am cooped up with my mom til Saturday. I think I may need the chocolate.
posted 26-Jan-2009 4:50pm

Debbie M.....I had totally missed the entry before yours and was so surprised to hear you calling some one a nitwit....I did have to go back and check previous entries smile I agree can always be in control of your weight by not letting it get out of control in the first place.

Well Connie you are unbelievable.....your loss just keeps on going. This program has certainly worked well for you.

I didn't stay NFNS over the week-end. One thing I know for sure is that with NFNS I lose very slowly but on the reverse I also gain.....geesh!!!!

Kathleen it sounds like you are doing well and also that you are going with inches instead of lbs....working for you, that is great!

I have to tell you K10 I doubt there is going to be much sympathy coming your way because of weather in the 80's. This winter had been so miserable....I can't remember such a snow filled, long, cold winter ,,,,,for a long time. Why are we never happy with what we have smile

Debster have you found out anymore about your husbands health.....does he need treatments?
posted 26-Jan-2009 5:25pm

Welcome home Bronwyn. You sound good, more grounded than before when you didn't stay NFNS. It's no big thing, just begin again. No need to stress or feel bad about it.

I am losing sloooooooowly. Not a problem. All the benefits of eating this way has made it impossible to ever go back to s&f. I'm a lifer.

Hilda, good idea about the english muffins and burgers. I found a store that carries them and will be getting some as soon as I can. Sometime in the next couple of weeks.

I agree Debster, time to check in.

Welcome Nitwit. 15 lbs to should have no problem with that and you'll notice your feeling better too. Great success to you.

Debbie M, what's up?
posted 26-Jan-2009 10:24pm

Please pray for us in Missouri and Tennessee who are getting the ice storm.
posted 26-Jan-2009 11:25pm

Welcome Nitwit. I remember when I was at Weight Watchers one of the many times I attended and there was a lady that had reached her life-time goal of weight loss of 14 pounds. I was a little peeved at first and then I thought, if only I would have done that I wouldn't be in this predicament.

Hilda and Connie: stay safe.

Debbie M.: We have a 29 foot Springdale travel trailer. It has a slide that has a couch and table. We have a "queen" size bed and twin bunks. It has a bathroom with a shower and kitchen area. We have been very pleased with it. Keep me posted on your search.

Bronwyn: I know it is hard to have sympathy for me. We never are happy with what we have.

I had an Altoid today forgetting it had sugar, but I really needed it.

Stay warm. Good night. Off to watch House and 24.
posted 26-Jan-2009 11:28pm

Hello Everyone. I am sorry that I have been away for awhile. I will have to read all of the posts a little later and check back in. My husband has been given another 3 months reprieve. We check back the end of April. The white cells were up but the red cells and the platelets are stable, so that is good news (according to the hematologist oncologist). Thanks for all of your prayers. I will read posts tomorrow and check back. We are expecting a lot of snow, ice and a mixed messed here in Maryland fo the next 3 days. Brrrrrrrrr!
Debbie M.
posted 27-Jan-2009 7:37am

I've been so naughty. Just eating everything and anything. Shame on me. I'm too scared to get on the scale. I need to get myself redirected.

I'll be going on a field trip with my 10 yr old this morning. I'm glad everyone is well. Stay warm and I'll check in later.
posted 27-Jan-2009 8:47am

Morning. 145.4 this morning.

Debster, glad to to hear from you. And glad the news is not what it may have been. But the waiting will surely take it's toll on all of you. Be optimistic and know you are in all our prayers.

Debbie, you naughty, naughty girl! I would avoid the scales for a couple of days too! I have done what you have been doing when on other plans. It seemed to me that something was missing from my diet. I would end up stuffed, over and over again, and then give up. But you wont do that, will you? Because you are smart and when you get on line you are surrounded by all of us who love you and want you to be happy and healthy and the fine looking lady that you are. Remember that. Everyday is a another chance to start anew. I want you to be able to post that you have been on this plan for 6 months and you have lost loads of lbs. And deep down that's what you want too. So, time to do some soul searching and try and figure out why you slipped up. Don't be guilt ridden, in the big picture this is just a bump in the road. Be analytical about it. When the cheating feelings came on, what was going on with you? I know being shut up in the house for the winter is hard on you, maybe you can come up with something to do indoors that is "exercisish" and expel some energy and raise your endorphins a bit everyday. How is the variety in the foods you are eating? Do you spend a lot of time in the kitchen cooking for the rest of the family? Do you have a certain time of the day when you are prone to give in? We all have to work out the kinks in this eating plan to make it work for us individually. Take it slow and one day at a time.

We didn't get any ice last night or this morning, but tonight it looks like it will happen. So off to the store today. Later.
Debbie M.
posted 27-Jan-2009 9:02am

Wow, Connie, Thanks for the pep talk. I needed that. I do need to get very quiet and think about what it is that I want and meditate on it. Like someone said in an earlier post.... Skinny feels so much better than any morsal of food. Or something like that.
I did get on the scale :o(
196.5 hopefully only temporary
posted 27-Jan-2009 9:38am

Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels. We need to put this on our refrigerator and cabinet doors.

We did get the ice and freezing rain and sleet in SE Missouri. The tv says it is only halfway over. I got up and had a shower early in case power goes off today. Last Feb during the ice storm my mom's house never lost power and I was so thankful for that. All our relatives came over to her house to shower. Schools are closed everywhere around me. Looks like Western Ky is getting more ice than us. Lots of folks without power. 30 degrees out here.

Connie, you did the right thing cutting back on the cheese. The South Beach nutritionist says if you hit a weight loss stall to cut back on reduced fat cheeses.
posted 27-Jan-2009 10:41am

Hilda, thanks for the tidbit from SBD. I have to admit I usually use full fat cheeses. Some of them are ok in the reduced version, but mostly full fat is my favorite. Being without it is getting easier. Tomorrow I am making NFNS pizza. No way around it, I am eating some cheese. A little reward for being so good.
posted 27-Jan-2009 1:31pm

The sugar free bacon is Gwaltney brand. Red cardboard wrapper.
posted 27-Jan-2009 1:41pm

Connie: Thanks for the info on the bacon, I will see if we have that brand here.

I had some salami last night that had sugar and dextrose in it, but it said below 1 g. sugar on the label. I am not going to make a habit of this, but I needed something to eat. We had been at the hospital visiting a friend who is coming to the end of his cancer fight.

My homeschooled daughter needs the computer. Talk soon.
posted 27-Jan-2009 6:38pm

Our friend went to be with the LORD. He battled this for a few years now. My husband and I have known him for 25 years and he was only 40.

This will be a test of how committed I am to NFNS. You know, the stress eating thing. The sorrow thing, etc.

I hope those of you dealing with the storms are safe and warm.

Good day to you all.
posted 27-Jan-2009 7:13pm

Crude K10. I never know what to say to something like that. It is so sad, the battle he must have waged, his very young age, all of it. Grieving is different for everyone and you will find your way through eventually. And if you turn to food a's not the end of the world. It's a step. Try to keep in mind too much F&S will make you feel really awful. Be very kind to yourself. And peace be with you.
posted 27-Jan-2009 8:57pm

Wooops! I meant to type crud...not crude. Good Heavens!!!! When I mess up I do it big. Sorry.

We just finished dinner and I fixed a rice recipe that I copied down months ago, but never fixed. I found the recipe card the other day and decided I would try it. It was really good, so I'm passing it on. It has shitake mushrooms in it. A first for me. It tasted so fresh.

Brown rice w/Pineapple Shitake Mushrooms

1/2 c long grain brown rice or basmati rice
1 c water
1 Tblsp Canola Oil (I used Olive oil and a bit of butter)
1/2 med red bell pepper, diced
8 shitake mushrooms, stems removed and diced (I also removed the dark gills on the underside before dicing)
1 c chopped green onions
1/2 c crushed pineapple, no added sugar, drained

Bring water to boil. Add rice and bring to boil again, cover and reduce heat to low simmer. Cook rice for 45 min or until water is absorbed. (For me this only took about 20 min) While rice is cooking, saute red pepper and shitake mushrooms in oil until mushrooms are cooked through. Add green onions and saute till tender. Add pineapple and saute 1 min. Add rice to vegetables in pan. Cook, breaking up rice until well combined and heated through.

I salted the rice because I thought it needed it. Also, I sprinkled a small amount of soy sauce on top of mine. Yum!!!!

Now, for the pork recipe I had the other night.

Pork Medallions Dijon

1 pkg pork tenderloins (2 lbs) cut into 1/2 inch rounds
2 Tblsp butter or olive oil
1/4 c sliced shallots
4 Tblsp heavy cream (I used half and half)
1/3 c chicken broth
2 Tblsp course grained Dijon mustard (I used honey mustard, but next time I'm going to use 1 Tblsp mustard and 1 Tblsp no sugar added jelly, preferably black raspberry)

Using a meat mallot or rolling pin, flatten pork rounds between plastic wrap to scant 1/2 in thickness. Sprinkle with salt and pepper. Saute in butter or olive oil until browned and cooked through, about 2 min each side. Transfer pork to a plate. Add shallots to skillet and stir 1 min. Add chicken broth and cream. Boil until sauce is thick enough to coat a spoon, stirring up browned bits. Stir in mustard. Return pork pork to sauce. Simmer to heat thoroughly.

Hope you are doing well Hilda. We are supposed to get ice tonight. But we are right on the line, so maybe not.
posted 27-Jan-2009 8:59pm

Connie: Thank you for your encouragement. So far food isn't an issue as I have no appetite. I have a question about the crude part, what did you mean by that? Good job on your weigh-in.

Good night to you all.
posted 27-Jan-2009 9:07pm

I meant to type crud. I can't believe I typed that!
posted 27-Jan-2009 10:00pm

Connie: You just gave me a much needed laugh tonight. Take care.
posted 27-Jan-2009 11:24pm

Paducah Ky and Sikeston Mo. folks are all without power because of the ice storm. Crews from Alabama and other places coming in to help. It may be as long as a week before the power comes back on. We will get more ice tonight. A limb fell beside my car, or hit my car and bounced off, Not big in diameter but looks about 6 feet in length from the window. I'm not going out there.

K10,So sorry about the loss of your friend. It's comforting to know that he had made Jesus the Lord of his life and you can know that he is in heaven. It's just so hard on those he leaves behind.
posted 27-Jan-2009 11:45pm

Thanks Hilda. I pray you will be kept safe through this ice storm. No more complaining about the heat from me. At least for right now anyways. Stay warm and safe. I hope your car is ok.
posted 28-Jan-2009 1:23am

In times of stress we do need to treat ourselves well. I cannot believe that I have no cravings for sweets.
I am not a tea drinker at all, but at Trader Joe's, while browsing, I saw green tea with blueberries. Hearing the good things about green tea and knowing already about blueberries I tried it this morning. It was good. I enjoyed it with a small addition of splenda. worth a try!
Layered refried beans, sour cream, salsa, black olives and topped with cheese. Served with corn chips to go with our hamburgers for dinner.
Pineapple juice, frozen pineapple and sf cool whip in the blender! It is one of our favorites!

Off to bed and I will remember all of you in prayer before I fall asleep. We all need prayers and support and I thank you for being there for me. God Bless you all!!
Debbie M.
posted 28-Jan-2009 7:26am

Did anyone see Biggest Loser last night? Heart breaking.........The youngster who weighed the most at the beginning got voted off. At least he is out of the 400's now. I wish him well.
It's amazing to me how those women can lose 10 pounds in a week. Low calories and working their butt off, I know, but still, 10 POUNDS!? WOW I wish I could go to a ranch like that.

I keep telling myself to stop being so lazy and get moving and plan my meals. I want to arrive in the spring with a nice weight so I can shop for new summer clothes, be more active on our camping trips and just feel good about myself.

I've been very alarmed when I look in the mirror. I guess its a 40's thing. Greying hair, wrinkles, and sagging this and that. What the heck is happening to me? I'll be 45 in June and can't help think... Is this all there is? Are my attractive beautiful sexy years behind me? Surely I can take control of myself and lose the weight, tone up, color my hair and be the best I have been in years. But where will I find the motivation? I suppose this lul in my attitude will pass. It always seems to. It's just so hard to think I will ever be out of the 190's. I pretend I am not really all that fat but I really am. When a body is suppose to be 130 there is no hiding that 60 pounds. Why can't I do it? There are a lot of people who lose a lot more than that. Why can't I do it? Why can't I do it?
I want to feel good. Its a good thing I haven't fallen into the addiction trap like some.
Enough poor me.
I have to ask my self... WHAT DO I WANT? and I have to answer myself.

I'll check back later.
Debbie M.
posted 28-Jan-2009 7:54am

By the way, Kathleen, I love blueberry green tea. I'm not a big fan of plain green tea.

I think the best thing about being skinny, besides have a waist, would be smaller breasts. I'd like to go from a DD to a B. Even if I had to hoist them up all the time. hehe

195 today :oP
Debbie M.
posted 28-Jan-2009 8:16am

Bronwyn, Are you Flying? or at least fluttering? Do you use a control journal? I think if you do, (I should get mine out, its around here somewhere) we should put a food journal page in it. What do you think about the contol journal?

If anyone wants to know what the heck I'm talking about, it's an on line mentoring website to help you take control of your household.
posted 28-Jan-2009 8:28am

Debbie M.: anything you are going to eat, look at it and ask if it has flour or sugar.

If it answers you, drop it and run!! :)

If it has either flour or sugar, pick something else. It is as simple and difficult as that.

I know that if I had Little Debbie snack cakes in the house I would eat them until they were gone. I don't crave them, but don't tempt me.

One day, one meal, one snack at a time. Don't add other constraints, just nfns. We know that works!!

Day 31 for me. I will have some tea.

Let's go girls!!
Debbie M.
posted 28-Jan-2009 8:47am

Thanks Kathleen, It really is as simple as that. I'm going to have tunnel vision today and just keep it simple. Better yet, if I can't have it it's going in the trash.
Off to make a cup of tea for myself.
Kathleen, whats your weight? Did you tell us that?
posted 28-Jan-2009 8:54am

Debbie...what!!!!!! Snap out of it! Been there, done that and it gets you nowhere. Even though your words sound a bit like a pity party, really your just beating yourself up. Don't ask yourself why you can't do it, ask yourself why you won't do it. Big distinction.

Color your hair immediately. I am not kidding. 45 is way to young to have graying hair. I once saw a tv show on beauty and they said the single most important advancement for woman's beauty was hair color. I believe it. Color your hair and put on some make up. Just a bit of color in your cheeks and maybe some mascara and lip gloss. Just do it. Then you will get a glimpse of the you your missing. You've just forgotten what she looks like, or your afraid she's disappearing. Do it for you husband and kids and family and friends and everyone who loves you and hates to see you like this.

Yep, you are overweight. Time to tackle that. Can't pretend or ride on the coattails of lucky the genes that gave you that 36-24-36 bod! You are no longer able to hide fat intramuscularly, or take advantage of your height to spread out the lbs so it's not so noticeable, or dress cleverly to hide it. Your body is reacting to all the foods you have feed it over time that it did not need. Just like everyone else on this site. It is what it is. But honey...there is a cure. There is a solution. For some reason you turned your back on that. Personally, I think the holidays threw everyone off course. This funk your in could be a result of that. Or it could be because you have gray hair. I don't know, but I know how to fix it. And so do you. I worry a little about your waiting for nice weather to see results. That is going to put a lot of pressure on yourself down the road.

Menu planning and grocery shopping have got to be priority 1. Week after week after week. Make it the law. This is one area where you are one of the luckiest person on earth, your a SAHM. You can schedule this in absolutely. You have to do this. Not to mention it's always more economic to grocery shop with a list. Something I do when I make my grocery list is I list items from the front of store to back and right to left. That way I'm in and out as fast as possible.

Menu planning will probably take you longer, but you have a computer so you can come up with great recipes that are good for you. I get so tired of cooking sometimes. I try and get 1 or 2 super easy preparation dishes each week. And especially important, healthy snack options. If you are having a hard time focusing, try and concentrate on the "groceries only" for a while.

And of course, try and be happy. That is something we have to work on sometimes. Take stock. Be grateful. Find something you are delighted in and let it fill you up. 6 months from now, you might not even recognize yourself!

145.2 this morning.
posted 28-Jan-2009 9:28am

177.4 pounds.
I just did my first exercise along with nfns.
What did I do?
Cranked 'Queen' and danced away!! It felt great. Stretching, twisting and just rockin'!!
Try it, it could also lift your mood.
Rock on!
I like the idea of 'if you can't eat it, toss it'. Great resolution! If not good for you, not good for anyone!!
posted 28-Jan-2009 9:50am

Just whipped up a snack:
can of cashews, box of raisins and sunflower kernels roasted and salted.
Put in 1 gallon bag. Ready to snack.
A little movin' around gets the blood going.
I will be boppin' all day.
posted 28-Jan-2009 10:46am

Definitely color your hair. It takes years off. And when you get thinning hair, get a wig or two or three in a shade or two lighter than your younger natural color. I feel and look so much younger with more hair. Love that Eva Gabor Banter wig the best! Wig number two I've decided is too dark now. Should have bought a lighter shade. Shopping for number three this spring!
Debbie M.
posted 28-Jan-2009 10:57am

I have a picture of the color I liked when my hair was colored before. As soon as payday comes I'm going to do it!! Thanks everyone. Sorry about the pity party with myself. I get that way sometimes and just have to shut those stinkin thinkin voices up that play in my head. I need to replace them with positive messages. You all help me do that and I'm greatful.
posted 28-Jan-2009 11:10am

No problem letting those negative feelings out, better than keeping them bottled up inside.
posted 28-Jan-2009 11:43am

Debbie M.,,,,,, I don't think it was a pity party, I think you are tired of things taking so long to change and in the process you get down. I know this because I have been there and I am there now. It is hard to feel like you are doing the program and not seeing the results on the scales......and then the tendency I think is to lose focus and to not do the program as well. I went 3 weeks totally NFNS with little results and so when I was in Montana it was easy to think what is the use and to eat what everyone else was eating. It begins to feel futile. So how do we overcome this problem. I had no problem getting back to NFNS on Monday and I am good to go with it but I know that if I don't see some results then my motivation is certainly dampened by that.

Debbie are you eating NFNS or are you "kind of eating NFNS".....if you are only kind of eating NFNS than stop and like you say get rid of temptations. Dig your heels in and do this 100% for one month and see what happens. You may find that you haven't been honest with yourself about what you are eating......time to be very conscious of your eating program and to give it 100%.

I want NFNS to work because overall I think it is easy to eat that way. Some of us though may not be as fortunate as others in our weight loss......we may lose way slower than we would like to. This is where I am at.....can I dedicate myself to a program where it is easy to do but very slow or do I want to explore more drastic measures? At this point I want NFNS to work so I am going to stay the course. I am already more and more conscious of cutting down on nuts. chips and other high calorie food items.

When I get gray hair I think I will dye my hair at least until it is a nice even gray colour. I am a late gray bloomer so I haven't had to deal with that yet. Some one said, "even an old barn looks better with a fresh coat of paint" matter our age we can do those things that make us feel better about ourselves and make us feel happier. Debbie I think you and I have a lot eggs in losing weight basket.....why don't we just do the things we can now to feel good,,,,exercise, make-up and hair cuts or colours.
posted 28-Jan-2009 11:44am

I forgot to mention that last night my son said he wanted to do my diet. WOW! I am so happy about that because he was doing, or trying to do, Atkins and I am convinced that is a terrible idea. I need to spend some time "schooling" him. And it may take him a while to get it right. He loves fast food and cookies. He has a night time/weekend sweet tooth. Last night I had left over ns added pineapple and I put some in a small dish and sprinkled with Splenda. It was so good. I think I will add some to my cereal the next time I have it. The good foods just keep on coming!
posted 28-Jan-2009 11:56am

We can not betray ourselves without setting into motion all manner of emotional trouble. I do think it is time for me to get out an old note book and start to record what I am eating. It may even be prudent to calculate calories for a few days to see really what my caloric consumption is.......maybe I would be surprised. "To thine own self be true" may require a little more planning than just eating NFNS......we want this to work so maybe we have to be more conscience of what we are doing so it can be tweaked to result in what we want.

Debbie lets make a conscious effort to boost our veggie intake.....low calorie and filling......
posted 28-Jan-2009 12:10pm

I am so glad people can really say what they are feeling on this site. It is so freeing to see that we aren't the only people to feel that way.

I love that the other's will also put us in our place if we are just feeling sorry for ourselves. The tips and encouragement are what is need in any journey we are taking.

Yesterday I ate some turkey breast, a banana, and some more turkey breast. I then had a big bowl of popcorn last night. I ate too much of it and I put butter on it. I didn't eat anything else after it though.

Normally, with bad news, I would have totally reached for a Pepsi, but I didn't. Three weeks now without it. On the way home from the hospital I was thirsty and I really wanted an Orange HI-C from McDonalds, but I didn't have it. I went home and drank water. Wow! What a concept huh?

My husband and I went to our class last night and just weighed in, we just weren't up to staying. He lost 4.5 and I don't know what I lost, and I will keep it that way as long as I can. I know whatever number it would have said I would have thought about going off program and I DO NOT want to do that.

Have a good day everyone. Stay NFNS.
posted 28-Jan-2009 12:12pm

Bronwyn: I have been keeping track of what I eat, not calorie wise yet. One step at a time. I am actually being honest and writing everything down though.
posted 28-Jan-2009 12:22pm

Does anyone have a good substitute for dishes that call for cream of mushroom or cream of chicken soups? Some of the dishes I have that use that would be NFNS except for the soup.

Debbie M.
posted 28-Jan-2009 1:08pm

Hi Bronwyn, To answer your question about being true to NF/NS. I have not been true for the last several days maybe a week on and off. Before that I was true. I think you are hitting the nail on the head when you talk about counting the calories even just for a day or two. Its amazing how fast the calories add up. I'm sure its easy to eat too many good calories. I'm with you. Lets write it all down.
I just saw a very slender yet curvy woman on TV and I was so jealous. I WANT to look like that again.

I need to do something crazy and exciting and get my blood pumping. I used to live this way. Always in sports and active. I'm so seditary now. I can sweat just doing house work.

I am going to successed and so are you Bronwyn. We can do it. We need to JUST DO IT. One day, one meal, one snack at a time.

Hey what if we not only stuck to NF/NS but also limited how much we could eat by the number of bites we have when snacking? I used to do that when I was losing. I just let my portions get out of control.
posted 28-Jan-2009 2:08pm

K10...good for your husband! It must mean that you are losing too. I know men lose faster than us ladies, but since your in this together, it certainly bodes well for you. Staying away from soda is going to make such a huge difference for you. I never found any canned soup without sugar in it. I go ahead and use them occasionally because I think the sugar is minimal. Rachel Ray's stocks are sugar free. But I do have a recipe for cream soup base. It is gluten free. Here it is;

Cream Soup Base

2 c instant nonfat milk
3/4 c cornstarch
1/4 c chicken boullion granulles (they have sugar I think, don't know how much)
1 tsp onion powder
1/2 tsp dried thyme
1/2 tsp dried basil
1/4 tsp black pepper

Combine all ingredients; mix well and store in an airtight container.
Yields 3 c of mix
For 1 can of cream soup use 1/3 c of mix and 1 1/2 c water. Put in a quart sauce pan, mix till smooth, bring to a boil, cook 3 min, stirring often.
You can use in casseroles or as a wonderful soup base. Makes the same as 9 cans of soup.

Debbie...sounds like your yourself again. It was just a small detour you took. And Bronwyn, good thoughts from you. Always I remember triplet mom...3 yrs and counting. Long term will make it happen. I sometimes think my 6 months is long is for me anyway.
posted 28-Jan-2009 2:24pm

I forgot to add that tonight is pizza night. I googled using cornbread for pizza crust and one site said it tastes awesome. I need to halve the recipe. Can't wait, I'll let you know how it turns out.
posted 28-Jan-2009 2:28pm

Thank you Connie for the recipe. Please let us know how the cornbread crust turns out. I know there are many options for us if we know where to look.
posted 28-Jan-2009 2:45pm

Is Silver Hills bakery (Balanced) the only bread that works with this diet?
Debbie M.
posted 28-Jan-2009 2:58pm

I don't know about Silver Hills Bread. Does it have the word Flour in the ingredients? I know Ezekiel Bread does not have flour and we all seem to like it. You'll find it in the freezer section at the super market. Welcome Julie. Have you been doing NF/NS?
posted 28-Jan-2009 3:04pm

Speaking of calories....which I am planning to pay some attention to for a few days....I had never realized how many calories were in rice cakes. Seriously I always thought they were 35 calories each.....i am sure they used to be. My Lundberg Brown Rice Rice cakes are 70 calories each so that is the same as a slice of Ezekial. Has the portion size of everything got out of control????
posted 28-Jan-2009 3:13pm

Thank you, Debbie M. My sister got me hooked on the NF/NS diet over the holidays. I started on New Years Day and have lost 10-11 pounds! Would like to keep it going for another 17 and then 17 year old daughter was taking Alli and started on NF/NS about 3 weeks ago. She has lost 15 pounds! (Still taking Alli) My sister (lives in Washington state) buys the Silver Hills bread, made in British Columbia. Balanced bread is made with no flour and no added sugar (uses organic apples for the sweetness). 1 g of sugar. Can't find it in CA where I live. Ordering online is an option but the shipping is outrageous. They bake to order, freeze and ship. I'll look for the Ezekiel Bread
posted 28-Jan-2009 3:20pm

I can only find the Ezekiel bread and English muffins in the freezer secion at the Health food store. Our supermarket does not stock them.
posted 28-Jan-2009 3:27pm

A co-worker mentioned that Whole Foods (aka Whole Paycheck) carries Ezekial bread. I'll stop by after work. Maybe I'll get my husband to join us. Bread was a big factor for him...Thanks for the guidance.
posted 28-Jan-2009 4:10pm

Bronwyn, my Quaker Lightly Salted rice cakes are 35 calories each.

Welcome Julie. Wow, you are already surrounded by people on NFNS. That has to be a boost. This web site is a boost too.
posted 28-Jan-2009 4:52pm

Connie that is what I thought.....35 calories per rice cake. I guess I will pay more attention to brands from now on. I would have to say the Lundberg ones are very good.

Julie I live in Canada and I too can buy Silver Hills.....seriously Ezekial is just as good and I don't know if Silver Hills has cinnamon and raisin which Ezekial does. The cinnamon and raisin bread or english muffins are very good. For me the Ezekial is more money and not in all stores but I still buy it. You can buy Silver Hills anywhere here, even in Safeways. Squirrelly Bread has no flour no sugar varieties as well. The Ezekial hamburger buns are really good.
posted 28-Jan-2009 4:55pm

Julie tell us a little bit about the Alli. What has your daughters experience been with it other than good weight loss. You as well have lost quickly and it sounds like you don't have that much to lose, only another 17 lbs. What is a sample eating day for you?
posted 28-Jan-2009 5:49pm

Canada seems to be ahead of the game on healthy bread. Well, maybe I should say ahead of the state of TN. I'm not being ugly, the south usually rates low on healthy eating.

All this talk of rice cakes made me want one. So, I mashed a banana and added 2 Tblps of the left over crushed pineapple and put it on top of 3 rice cakes. Well, it was great. I should only have pineapple in the house rarely since I just opened it last night and I have found 4 ways of eating it so far! At least I'm eating fruit.
posted 28-Jan-2009 6:02pm

Welcome Julie.
posted 28-Jan-2009 6:05pm

Julie: Are you in Canada or California? I am in Southern California. We have Trader Joe's and they keep the Ezekiel bread in the bread section. Sprouts is another store, very similar to Whole Foods and Henry's. Sprouts keeps Ezekiel bread in the refrigerated section near the bread. If you are in Canada this won't help you.
posted 28-Jan-2009 7:18pm


Regarding couscous: I found a website called
Click on: Search this Site and enter couscous and it will give info regarding couscous.

What it says is, it is a common misconception that couscous is a grain like bulgur wheat, but it is actually processed, like pasta, from tiny hand-rolled balls of semolina flour, which is a derivative when wheat is milled (ground). The wheat semolina and flour is rolled by hand with a small amount of cold water.

I wish I hadn't read this. I bought some whole-wheat couscous and now I guess I shouldn't eat it since it says it is rolled with flour. What a bummer.

What do you gals think? I wish it was listed in Dr. Gott's book and then we wouldn't have to do all this searching and rationalizing.
posted 28-Jan-2009 8:32pm

I don't think you should eat the couscous. What a bummer. But I'm glad you found out now instead of later. Once you get to your goal weight, you can have it once in awhile. So maybe you could just push it to the back of the cabinet, I don't know what the shelf life of it is.

Dinner was great. It was my first time making it so I'll be working out the kinks, but it tasted great. Of course I haven't had anything that even remotely tasted like pizza for months, so I really liked it. But the fam liked it too so we will be having it regularly.

I think I have amassed enough entree's and sides to begin making a list of dishes I can make and use the list for a rotation schedule. I did that once before and it really came in handy when menu planning. Who knows when I'll get around to it.
posted 28-Jan-2009 8:39pm

Connie: Please share your recipes. I am so interested. I have made pizzas with Ezekiel pitas that I found at a place called Sprouts. Like I said earlier, Sprouts is very much like Whole Foods Market or Henry's.

I can actually return the couscous to Trader Joe's, so I may do that.
posted 28-Jan-2009 8:56pm

I'll post my pizza recipe tomorrow. It will be nice to have someone else working out the kinks with me.

Time for me to start working on super bowl foods. I'll be home with husband and son. As much as I want prosciutto, I don't dare. I ate the whole tray last time. We always buy our cheese dip at a local mexican restaurant. It's good and easy. I need to think on this some more.
posted 28-Jan-2009 9:27pm

Connie a friend recommended a "Sushi Bowl" recipe that may be one fun food for the super bowl. You can find it on 101 cookbooks (google that) and then on the site search the "Sushi Bowl". I would use a spicy or savoury chicken vs. the tofu. My husband hates rice and sushi so I haven't tried it yet....need someone to help me eat it. Also I forgot to tell you that I made it through the 4th book.....boy it never stopped getting weird did it. The 4th one was the most interesting I thought. I am also interested in your pizza.....
posted 28-Jan-2009 9:55pm

Quaker rice cakes plain lightly salted are only 35 calories.
posted 28-Jan-2009 10:00pm

I posted the above before reading the latest ones. My car is one big ice cube in the driveway.
posted 29-Jan-2009 9:29am

Morning all. This is going to be an odd day for me. Husband drove my car I'm stuck at home. Will I get dressed? Will I do anything productive? Yes and yes, but it feels like I could just do nothing and I wouldn't get caught!

When you all started posting about pizza's on pita's, I wanted some. But I didn't have any pita's and I have yet to find them. Then I remembered the Chicago/New York style (I can't remember which) and it's cornbread crust. Yesterday I found a website that showed a "southern pizza" with a cornbread crust and I tried to combine all of the above. The layering of the Chicago/New York pizza is different as well. The sauce is on top.

I used a 9 in deep dish clear glass Pyrex dish to bake in. That is one of the things I am going to have to change. I halved the cornbread recipe, but it was still too thick. I liked it, but the fam wanted it thinner. So, I need to use a different pan. Without flour in the cornbread mix, it's runny. I don't know if a regular pizza pan will work, but I'm going to try one next time. Or a cookie sheet. I guess I can use the cornbread mix halved one time only if I use a different pan.

Before I began the crust, I sauteed mushrooms, 2 Tblsp minced garlic, and 1/2 onion until mushrooms were cooked through.

No Flour cornbread (these measurements have already been halved, use as shown)

2 Tblsp butter
1 c yellow cornmeal
1/2 tsp baking soda
3/4 tsp salt
1 lrg egg
1 c buttermilk (If you don't have butermilk, substitute- 1 Tblsp white vinegar into a measure cup. Add milk to make 1 c. Let stand 10 min.)

Preheat oven to 425. Put butter in baking pan, place in oven till butter melts and pan is heated through, 3-5 min. Meanwhile, in a bowl whisk cornbread, baking soda and salt; set aside. In a large bowl, whisk together eggs and buttermilk. Remove skillet from oven. Using a pastry brush, coat butter on all sides of pan, pore remaining butter in milk mixture. Add cornmeal mixture to milk mixture stirring until just moistened. Scrape batter into baking pan. Bake 15-20 min until golden brown.

Depending on how thin your batter is spread out, the baking time may be shorter. Keep an eye in it.

While cornmeal is baking, mix pizza sauce (the following has not been halved)

15 oz tomato sauce
1 tsp oregano
1/2 tsp basil
1/4 tsp garlic powder
1/4 tsp onion powder
4 teaspoons tomato paste

In a medium bowl, combine all ingredients. Mix until well blended.

I halved the above recipe last night. If I make a larger size pizza I will use the above recipe.

As soon as the cornbread came out of the oven I put the cheese on. Not too thin, not too thick. Whatever you prefer. Then I topped the cheese as follows; pepperoni, onion/mushroom/garlic mixture, then the sauce. I put it back in the oven, which was turned off, but still very warm. I left it in the oven for 10 min, then dug in.

So now we can all take a try at this and perfect it.

144.6 this morning. Yesterday a friend called and asked about my diet. Years ago, maybe 6, she lost tons of weight on WW. She gave me some jeans, the flannel lined ones that are now sooo baggy on me, she had lost so much weight they didn't fit her anymore. So she is going to start doing NFNS. I haven't seen her in awhile, I don't know how much she has gained back but I'm glad she is going to get started. Her phone call reminded me of the last time, before NFNS, I had any success at weight loss. I dieted myself down to 153. At that weight, I was able to squeeze myself into "the jeans," my favorite pair. They were really tight, but they zipped up! I remember I starved myself. I was so frickin hungry! And of course, it didn't last. Now, I'm eating like crazy and still losing. Don't give up ladies.

By the way, my cat has blood in his stool. Another clue. He is eating better since I started him on Pepcid and today he will start another new med that should really help. But here's the really neat part. There is a new girl at the vet's office working the front desk. A real cutie patootie! So, the other day I was in there and we were talking and I said "Candice, how old are you?" "26" she replied. And I said "Candice, you need to meet my son." She blushed. Our vet was there, her son went to school with mine and she started telling Candice what a sweetie he is. Oh, I am so setting those two up! Maybe I can send my son in to pick up the new med since I don't have a car and they can meet. I think this is a great idea.

Hilda, sounds like your stuck at home today too! Stay warm.

Bronwyn, I don't like sushi. I just can't make myself eat it. Not very cosmopolitan of me I know, but I just can't.

posted 29-Jan-2009 12:27pm

Honestly the name Sushi probably conjures up in your mind raw fish.....look at the recipe it isn't like that at all. I love sushi but never one with raw fish in it.....ever! This is a rice bowl with seasonings. Connie I will have to give the pizza a try....I have never seen the sauce on top.

I made a recipe out of Dr. Gott's book last night...."Chipotle Tomato and Corn Bisque". It was okay not to die for but okay. I added a can of chick peas to it and I thought that was a good addition. I think the recipe has some potential but isn't quite there yet. I am thinking of maybe serving it today over some brown rice. Over Christmas I made "Mulligatawny" soup that was made with fresh curry leaves and served over a bowl of rice and shredded chicken it was really good and I preferred it to the one I tried last night. One thing I did notice when I was looking at the recipes in this book (it isn't his cookbook) is that he mentions using baked corn chips. I haven't been using baked corn chips I may try that.

You know I am not sure because I did not weigh in the day I started which I believe was like January 1st or 2nd, but I may have lost 6 lbs. this month. I know during the holidays some time I stood on the scales and they registered 212. Today I weigh 206. The problem is that before the holidays I was, I believe 207 or 208 so it still doesn't really seem like I am going any where. So when I hear of new people coming on Julie and her daughter having lost so well in the first month I wonder if I will actually ever be able to say I have had that kind of success. Anyways I think if I am going to weigh that I should also actually keep track of the weight so I am aware of what my true losses are.

Hey Connie good match making! I have tried my hand at that a few times with mixed results...but good luck on your attempts I now have the tune from fiddler on the roof going through my head smile "match maker, matchmaker make me a match"!

Yesterday I started to record calories but then I made things from books that didn't have calories figured out so I gave up but I think it is still good to record your intake for a while so you can see what you eat over the whole day. How are you doing Debbie M? Are you trying to record your intake?
posted 29-Jan-2009 1:55pm

Bronwyn, you absolutely need to calculate your weight from your last known highest weight. What ever happened before does not count because you didn't stay at that weight. So, you have lost 6 lbs last month and that is a great. Keep going.

My son is stopping by the vets office for meds. She is going to be there. We'll see what happens.
Of course he's picky so I hope he thinks she's cute.

The sauce on top of pizza is different, unless you ordered Chicago/New York style, but I really like it that way. It keeps the cornbread from getting soggy.

I spent some time working in the checkbooks this morning. I've come up with a budget for 2009. Now I just have to stick to it!

I had my cereal for lunch, again, and added blueberries and pineapple. I remember seeing cereal at the store that was "tropical," this is my own version and I love it. I will always add pineapple and another dried fruit to my cereal now. It makes a nice lunch. I suppose I'll get tired of it eventually, but it is going to be awhile.

Where is everyone?
posted 29-Jan-2009 3:00pm

The ice on my windshield is over an inch to an inch and a half thick and coming off in big chunks. I am not understanding why the National Guard is not called out immediately when there is an ice storm. There are so many people needing rides to shelters and limbs cleared.
posted 29-Jan-2009 3:40pm

Hilda....."limbs cleared"?......surely you don't mean human limbs?
posted 29-Jan-2009 4:21pm

Tree limbs on power lines.
posted 29-Jan-2009 5:43pm

Hi everyone...sorry, being a newbie, I should keep this site up while at work so I don't miss out on all the good stuff. Bronwyn, with regard to Alli, Carolyn has been not necessarily following the dietary recommendations that go along with the pills, and she hasn't shared with me if she experienced any of the unpleasant side effects. She cut out all non-diet sodas, icecream, candy no that she is on NFNS and is dropping like crazy. She is 5'7" 1/2 and was over 190. I think she said 175 now. Alli goes for about $50 for a one-month bottle. She'll have to earn some money if she wants to do another month. We found some bread and English muffins at Whole Foods and are pumped

K10, we live in No. Calif, Sonoma County. I'll check out Trader Joes too. Thanks for the info.

The recipes look great. I'll have to get my sister to join this group.

Hilda, the pictures on the news are incredible. We are facing a drought, but enjoying a temperature of 65 this afternoon. More motivation to get a jump on swimming suit weather.
posted 29-Jan-2009 6:18pm

Julie that is what I meant....I wondered about the embarrassing side effects that you read about with alli. She probably would have mentioned something if she had been having problems. Was she not losing weight on alli until she started to do NFNS. I would not mind something that would give me a little boost but I do worry about the side effects.
posted 29-Jan-2009 7:08pm

I looked up the side effects of Alli. Some of the testimonials were very unpleasant! Not for me.

I heated up some pizza for dinner. It came out of the microwave great. With the sauce on top the crust was fine. I couldn't help myself, I added some more cheese on top. Well, that was really good. I am still restricting my cheese intake so I don't feel bad.

Son came home and didn't say much. That is a very good sign! If he was not interested he would have said "no." I'm going to set up a "date" soon. I'll have to be sneaky about it, but make sure I give each an easy out if wanted. I'm thinking appetizers at Chili's. Maybe next week. He brought the med home. Good grief, I'm now giving my cat 5 dose of something or the other twice a day. It is not easy giving a cat pills. He is worth it, but he get's a good swipe with his claw in every once and a while. The current treatment is for a peptic ulcer. He's already eating better.

This has been a wonderful day and I am thankful for it. Tomorrow work all day.
posted 29-Jan-2009 9:58pm

Does anyone on this site read the Stephanie Plum books by Janet Evanovich? I just finished reading one of her "betwen the numbers" books and I giggled up to the last page. I love that about her books, I always laugh out loud. Anyway, they do a girl good.

Night all..sweet dreams.
Triplet mom
posted 30-Jan-2009 12:24am

NFNS was not an easy three years for me. I finally said I have to quit eating crap for the sake of my kids. I am 100% NFNS. It is up to you to decide to get healthy or eat junk food. Again, get yourself a small spiral notebook and jot down every piece of food you eat. I was surprised how much junk food I ate at work. Then slowly start substituting. Carrot sticks for M and Ms. Celery with humuus. At work we have alot of pizza parties and Costco cake. I always bring a dish to share with the group and I can eat myself--usually a salad.

Hang on.
posted 30-Jan-2009 12:29am

Hello all. Busy day today. I was helping my friend with funeral arrangements. She has a lot of support. We were doing picture boards and seeing pictures from when we were in high school was fun. How time flies. Hair in the 80's was very interesting. Hairspray companies probably made a killing then.

I knew that there was going to be pasta or pizza at the house when I came back from running an errand, so I went to a place called Charro Chicken. I got a chicken and rice bowl. I can't even worry if it had sugar. I could have had it with white rice, but I wanted the spanish type and at El Pollo Loco there is no sugar added to their rice. I ate it for 2 meals. I passed on cake tonight. I figure while I am able to pass it up I am going to.

Connie: I am looking forward to trying the pizza. Awesome about the jeans that are way too big. One day I hope to be there too.

Hilda: I hope you are staying warm. It was 81 degrees here today, with wind. I am not going to complain though.

Good night.
posted 30-Jan-2009 1:07am

I am fine. Tried to de-ice my car today. Had a little hammer and went out and tapped on the ice on the car and it came off in big chunks. Got about half of the ice off. It was only 30 degrees here.
posted 30-Jan-2009 5:02am

Hey did any of you see Oprah today....well I guess it was yesterday? It was all about menopause, not sleeping, hormone therapy and so forth. Suzanne Sommers was on and Christine Northrup.......anyways I missed all but a few minutes of it. It looked like it would have been interesting.
Debbie M.
posted 30-Jan-2009 7:59am

I looked up Alli after I saw the add that that singer was taking it. My concern was, can it harm you. Does it interfier with the absorbtion of my meds. My research says no. Its a "tool". From what I understand about it, it can give you a boost by malabsorbtion of fat. I'm sure its harmless on a temporary basis and might just give people like you and me the boost that we need to get going again. If you decide to try it I'll support you. I think the less you "cheat" the less side effects you have.
Debbie M.
posted 30-Jan-2009 8:06am

I saw part of the show. They were talking about estrogen and progesteron thearapy. Its not like the HRT of the past. They were putting these hormones into creams and applying it to the skin everyday. They claim it lifts mood, improves sleep and sexual appitite. :)They say you need to have the doses adjusted specifically to your body and play with the doses to get the optimal effects. The key, they say is to take progesteron to even out the effects of the estrogen so we do not get the bad effect that happened in the 70's with breast cancer. Suzanne has a whole book on the subject but I can't remember what its called.
posted 30-Jan-2009 12:01pm

I'm going to encourage Carolyn to stop with the Alli. Not only the cost, but I just think she can do much better with the NFNS. She was cheating on the Alli, so what is the point. She was bummed that she stopped losing, but reminded her gently that she is about to start her cycle. Sure enough, "well, yea, I am bloated." She started this morning. Very excited to eat a hamburger again (with bread). Sweet potato fries, baked in the oven. Still haven't quite mastered it, but yummy. I have noticed that I do get fuller a lot faster...very much enjoying this. Will try to make it through Superbowl keeping to the diet. Making my Chioppino, prime rib, clam dip, chips and salsa...all on the program.
posted 30-Jan-2009 2:05pm

I have to look up Chioppino.....never heard of it? I have trouble seriously taking any drugs that are not necessary and I would be concerned about some one so young doing that, so I understand your concern Julie.

I went to a emergency prepardness meeting last night. It was so good. The instructor was so organized and well prepared. She talked about situations just like your ice storms back east. There were a couple of appliances she demonstrated that I really liked. One machine was called the soyatoy......I am not sure how I feel about soy but you can make almond, rice, oat or other grain milks in it as well. It worked so well. The other was a really nice looking stainless steel water purification cannister. She stressed the importance of having a 3 month thorough that you could survive without any trips to the grocery store. I am going to really look at that idea and make some plans to do that.

I am making a black bean and corn salad today for lunch. I am contemplating making a pot of steamed brown rice to have with it instead of corn chips. I cooked the beans from scratch yesterday with seasonings so I think they will be extra good.
posted 30-Jan-2009 5:38pm

Hi everyone.

Bronwyn: Black bean and corn salad with brown rice sounds good. Let me know.

Hilda: Are the ice storms done yet? Is it warming up?

Triplet Mom: What an encouragement you always are. Thanks for your input.

I was reading at the top of this page how it says NFNS is hard to follow. I have not found it to be that way. I know I am new to this way of eating and it is easier in the beginning to be committed, but I feel like I am able to avoid things with flour and sugar quite easily. I have to read a lot of labels, but that isn't hard.

Sunday and Monday are going to be challenges. I am attending a church gathering and then a Super Bowl party. Monday is the funeral with a gathering after. Would you ladies say it is best to avoid things like pasta salads and breads? I know if there are green salads available, that may be best, but I know the dressings may have sugar. I think there may be meat at all events too. What would you do if only meat with BBQ sauce is available? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
posted 30-Jan-2009 6:43pm

Absolutely stay away from the breads and the pastas. You may accidentally eat something with a little sugar in it, sauces etc, but that is ok. It will be minimal. Bread and pasta on the other hand would be HUGE amounts of sugar. You have a lot on your plate this weekend, just make obvious choices and don't worry about it.

Another sinus problem again. Argh! I've been nibbling all day. Pretty much non stop. I think it's the decongestant and expectorant I take that makes me hungry all the time. That has to be it. I'm staying NFNS, but a lot of fat calories. Oh well.

Last night before I went to bed my son said the girl at the vet's office is very pretty. That is a sure sign he's up for a date. I really hope she doesn't turn out to be scary!
posted 30-Jan-2009 6:53pm

Connie: Thanks for the suggestions. I plan on staying away from the obvious traps and like you said, "not worry about it". Sorry about the sinus problem. I hope you get better quickly. How is your kitty? I can't imagine fixing up my girls, but I am sure when they aren't 14 and nearly 13 it will be easier to imagine. I remember when I couldn't imagine letting them go off in a store without me. I do like them to stay together though.
Stacie (Triplet mom
posted 30-Jan-2009 8:25pm

triplet mom
posted 30-Jan-2009 9:14pm

The thaw started today here. I hit the ice off my car with a small tack hammer. left my Mom's then got stuck in the driveway when I got back to my house. I am off the street but barely. More thawing tomorrow should help a lot. This is so scary to think we can't help people quickly when a disaster happens. Heaven forbid we ever have an earthquake. It just shows us we need to always have water, cash on hand in smaller bills, food that doesn't have to be heated, batteries, and a full tank of gas in our cars. All these people without power for maybe a week or two. One Ky town made CNN saying they had yet to see a single Red Cross person and they were expecting fatalities if they did not get help soon. My ex father in law is in a nursing home and they have no power. Generators going only.
posted 30-Jan-2009 11:07pm

posted 30-Jan-2009 11:13pm

We need to send our heat your way Hilda. That is scary to think that you are so isolated with all this weather going on. I am glad you mentioned the small bills thing. That is a shame about the nursing home, thank goodness they have generators.

Brown rice pasta is such an awesome substitute. I know I said this last week, but it is great. I like it better than whole wheat by far.
posted 31-Jan-2009 9:35am

Day 34!!
Looking forward to weigh in and measuring, but not until Feb 23rd!
posted 31-Jan-2009 11:13am

Kathleen: I haven't decided when I am going to weigh in yet. I have pants that have been too tight that I am going to use to check progress. I think measuring will mess with me too. I do weigh in at my class, but she doesn't tell me. Later, I think it will be interesting to see what I weighed and how it progressed and stalled.
posted 31-Jan-2009 12:33pm

Hello- I am new to this board, but anxious to dive in. I am on day 11 of this diet and have seen some progress, but very slowly. Some days I have issues with "how I feel" which leads to poor decisions. I had half of a bisquit one day and felt so awful as if I had failed and that the rest of the day is just shot. I refuse to weigh myself because I just can't comprehend the amount of weight i have sitting on me. My jeans do feel better and some days I am out walking twice a day. The hard part I find is that I am home all day with my 4 year old who eats the pbj, pasta, but also loves fruits and veggies. I tried to find other things to do to keep my mind off of food. I will try and stick with this and hopefully I can be down a size in the next month. Any words of encouragement are helpful, this can be hard to do alone.
posted 31-Jan-2009 2:05pm

Megan I know that being a stay at home Mum keeps you around food,,,,preparing food,,,,thinking about food all day long. It is really hard to not overeat. I also have been a stay at home Mum for many years. My baby just left for school the beginning of January. I wish I had listened to a friend who many years ago, when my children were young, observed that I was always putting food in my mouth,,,,,every time I prepared a snack for my kids, every time I walked by the cupboard or whatever. At that point I wasn't heavy but I know that over the years I used and abused home to deal with every emotion...happy, sad, stressed, overwhelmed or whatever. I am working hard on redeveloping my relationship with food.....having it have the place in my life that it should have....fuel for my body. Okay what I wish I had done many years ago was decide how I was going to deal with my emotions outside of eating. What do you mean by "how I feel"....??? One thing I can tell you is that the longer you keep sugar out of your intake the more in control of your eating you will feel. You simply won't be as driven by cravings. I am trying to not eat outside of meals or know the mindless eating of just putting things in your mouth every time you walk by the kitchen. Don't leave out containers of cookies or crackers....keep them put away....out of sight out of mind! Do you have any hobbies or things you are passionate about?
posted 31-Jan-2009 2:07pm

correction...."I used and abused FOOD....not home for heaven sakes smile

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