Tiffany Ann
| posted 18-Jul-2008 3:51pm
Hilda, the only thing I can think of that I did differently is I moved! So, I was sweating A LOT.. maybe that had something to do with it?
Also.. just a nice little treat.. if any of you live near by or frequent a Starbucks.. we have this new drink its called a Vivanno. They come in two flavors - Orange Mango Banana or Chocolate Banana. The orange Mango Banana doesn't have any sugar in it except for the natural sugar from the fruit. It's really great! it has 220 calories and is meant to be a protein/fiber meal replacement.. anyways it's a great healthy treat when you want something sweet. I would def reccommend it!
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Janie
| posted 18-Jul-2008 7:48pm
Congratulations to everyone that has lost. That's great. I don't get why I'm not losing. True, I did overdo the candy but most days I stay right on course. Here is my typical day's menu. Tell me what I'm doing wrong!!!
Breakfast: 2-egg omlet, or fruit & 1 piece of no flour toast
Lunch: Salad or fruit and cottage cheese
Dinner: Meat or chicken (not breaded & no sauce/gravy)
Vegetable
Salad
Snack: Sugar free pudding or fruit |
Anonymous
| posted 19-Jul-2008 7:20am
6/14 208 lbs, 6/21 204 lbs, 6/28 203 lbs, 7/5 202 lbs, 7/12 201 lbs, 7/19 202 lbs. Hello ladies, No weight loss for 2 weeks, got discouraged and ate everything in sight last night. Fortunately still 202 lbs. Jumping back on!
ps- Sounds like we have a new mantra; Doesn't matter how slow you go, so long as you don't stop! Confusius |
Anonymous
| posted 19-Jul-2008 7:21am
The above was me, Greg |
Greg
| posted 19-Jul-2008 7:23am
Tiffany and Kim, wow, great, super! |
bronwyn
| posted 19-Jul-2008 1:00pm
Greg be really serious about getting back on and staying on. Hitting my plateau at about the same point as you in the weight loss process wrecked havoic (I can't spell this a.m.) with my being as committed as I had been when I was seeing the 1 lb. loss per week. Once you loosen up on the commitment it is too easy to do it again and again. Forget the last couple of days and just make no excuses for slipping in any sugar of flour. I have gained back at least half of my 10 lb. loss and it is depressing......don't let it happen. |
Connie
| posted 20-Jul-2008 12:13pm
Hello everyone.I have been reading your blogs and enjoying them very much.I have been preparing to go on this "diet" for some time now.I have owned the book for a month and have yet to read it.I may be the biggest procrastinator yet!I am feeling overwhelmed.So,I guess I'll just jump in and try to stay focused.I'm 5'9 and 185 lbs.My scales are old so that is likely a false underweight.My size 14's are now too tight so I guess that means I'm a 16.Diabetes runs in my family and I have turned into my grandmother from the waist down,bulging in every direction.Today I am going to start the book and tomorrow I am going to start the plan.I ate a whole bag of dark chocolate yesterday as a farewell to sweets.My biggest problem is I'm a night eater.A cursed condition if ever there was one.My best hope is to remove all the "no no's" in the house,but I have children who will thwart that plan,soooo?I am thankful for all the tips you all share.It makes me hopeful. |
Connie
| posted 20-Jul-2008 12:45pm
After I wrote the above I felt empowered!I dug out the book and announced to the family that tomorrow I would be starting this diet.They laughed.Hmmmm. |
Hilda
| posted 20-Jul-2008 10:31pm
Greg, tell yourself this is a one time thing and get back on the program. Did you feel really sick or unhealthy after you ate? I went to a restaurant this weekend and ate some fried fish and felt very bad afterwards because I could tell it ran up my blood pressure. I've learned my lesson. Connie, they won't be laughing when they can tell you are losing and have gone down 2 pants sizes! |
Greg
| posted 21-Jul-2008 8:24am
Thanks Bronwyn and Hilda, Connie if the kids are a problem, get rid of them with the junk food. That way your diet will be much less stressful! |
Greg
| posted 21-Jul-2008 8:33am
Janie, The menu you wrote above is perfect. Use that menu and stick to it with no additions. Keep portion size as you wrote them. I can't imagine you not losing weight. |
Connie
| posted 21-Jul-2008 9:12am
Greg,I wish I could get rid of the kids!They will be gone soon enough though.I read the book last night and had a very healthy breakfast this morning with husband.Some of the recipes in the book are pretty foreign to me.I think I can adjust them.I had to buy a couple of things on line, fruit sweet and arrowroot powder,but otherwise I think I'm good to go.I am going to try to use dancing in my living room 30 minutes a day to start out my exercise program.No onlookers.Maybe I'll start one of the exercise videos I have purchased over the years!I have found some good low carb recipes at "lowcarbluxury.com".Lets see...what else?A journal.Thanks Hilda for your support.Everyone have a great day...I'm off to buy tons of healthy food. |
Tiffany Ann
| posted 21-Jul-2008 1:12pm
Welcome Connie! I too also like to eat at night.. if I'm bored or just sitting there..what I did was I bought a lot of fruit.. that way if I did have a little snack it was something like grapes or strawberries.. which are sweet enough to satisfy! I would also drink some really cold water.. about 24 oz then I wouldn't really want anything between those two stratigies..
Greg I'm sorry that you got discouraged.. I feel like you have been the motivator through out this whole thing.. but don't be discouraged.. really you are doing great!
I lost 1 1/2 lbs this week. bringing my total weight loss to 6 lbs. I did mess up one evening i had some oreos.. they were great haha but I haven't messed up since.. |
Connie
| posted 21-Jul-2008 3:14pm
Nice to meet you Tiffany Ann.I just spent a ton at grocery store,stocked up on tons of fresh fruit and veggies.Before that I spent forever menu planning and getting a grocery list together.Now I'm thinking I really need to make this more simple.Or maybe it will get easier with time.
My night time eating is a bit complicated.I wake up and forage for food, generally carbs of the worst kind.Sometimes I do it more than once a night.It is a shameful condition without a cure that I have been able to find.It is also a large part of my weight problem.When I'm half awake I have no control.Anyway...I have thrown out all of the junk,so maybe I can lose.I had some flour free corn chips last night.It was nice waking up without a sugar hangover.Yikes!I'm a mess!But I remain determined and all set for this weeks meals.Except lunches.I was planning on canned soup but found out they have sugar.Who knew. |
Janie
| posted 21-Jul-2008 7:48pm
Thanks for the encouragement Greg. I blew it this weekend but am back on track again. I'm hoping for a good week. |
bronwyn
| posted 21-Jul-2008 9:05pm
Janie looking through Dr. Gott's menu's and comparing them to yours.....you are definitely not overeating and you should be losing weight. How old are you? For women it seems there is this magical age (not in the usual good magical way) where losing weight is just harder. Unfortunately I am in that magical age group (so is Greg but then keeping in mind he is a man and those dang men lose weight more easily at any age).... I still think the weight loss will come if you can keep up the enthusiasm for the program......that is the hard part.
Looking back over the entries here I see that my entires are sprinkled with  faces all over the place. Connie it would be my guess that Greg would have meant to put a face next to his comment to get rid of the kids....he really seems very nice Welcome to the group and it sounds like you are off to a fabulous start......but don't overwhelm yourself....jsut cut out the sugar and the flour and you will do well. |
Connie
| posted 22-Jul-2008 9:12am
Good morning everyone! If I knew how to do a smiley face, I would type in two of them. (I am new to the world of computers) I forgot to mention that I am 49. I don't know if that puts me in the magical age group or not. Anyway, the last 24 hrs have been a blur getting on this program, all the reading, tossing of junk foods, menu planning, grocery shopping and preparing quality, although foreign, foods. When I hit the sack last night I was exhausted. And this morning I feel great! I have slept better in the past two nights than in a long long time. I am not a breakfast eater, but have had two in a row with my husband and he loved real food in the morning. So that part is good. Last nights dinner was sooo good. My stomach already feels flatter and I love feeling like I am taking better care of myself. Even the kids have enjoyed the food.
Of course Greg is a sweetie! Everyone on this page is.
Today I will not fail!
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Bookgirl
| posted 22-Jul-2008 11:44am
I just bought Dr. Gott's books and have started with this eating plan. I truly believe this is going to be an excellent way to eat. I weighed myself this morning (never a pleasant activity) and will weigh again in 2 weeks so I'll have some idea then of how it's going. The recipes are great so far, I love all foods, so nothing is really unappetizing so far. I'm off to the Natural Foods Store to look for sugar-free Peanut Butter and Mayo. You are all such an inspiration and I look forward to joining you on this new life plan! |
Janie
| posted 22-Jul-2008 2:36pm
Bronwyn, I am 55 and it is harder to lose. I used to be able to eat more than I am now and still lose. No longer the case :( I know I should be exercising to kick up the metabolism but that's getting harder too with bad knees and lack of energy. It's no fun to get old. As I mentioned, I blew it over the weekend and am trying to recover now and not beat myself up over it. I plan to have a good successful week! |
bronwyn
| posted 22-Jul-2008 2:57pm
Janie....we are so similar....age, knees, weight and the need to exercise more. All that said it doesn't mean we can't lose weight......we can, we just have to be way more patient and probably more realistic than I am. I have a stationary recumbent bike that I am trying to ride at least a half hour a day(I have it right in front of the T.V.).....it may not be an incredible fat burning exercise but it has to have some benefits in that respect I am sure. The thing is though it is really helping my knees to be stronger.....not tons but it is helping. Riding my bike is delaying my need for knee surgery. I am a compulsive eater......I am always thinking about eating or eating. I actually tend to eat really healthy food.....I am kind of a Health food nut....who eats too much good stuff and then periodically binges on chocolate or any kind of candy. I have said it a thousand times but here I go again.....I am good, really good at having no sugar but not good at having just a little. When I am off track then I seem to not eat any good food and eat all the bad stuff because I am going to start again tomorrow.....very bad idea. Remember the old poem....."there once was a girl with a curl in the middle of her forehead....when she was good she was very good....but when she was bad........."
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Janie
| posted 22-Jul-2008 5:54pm
Hi Bronwyn, yes it sounds like we are a lot alike. I love to eat and do so even when I'm full. I'm not too bad at work. It's when I get home that I'm at my worst. After dinner, my husband and I relax and watch TV. That's my worst time. I want to snack .. especially something sweet. That's a bad habit I have to work on (along with getting more exercise). |
Bookgirl
| posted 22-Jul-2008 8:50pm
Has anyone had any luck locating sugar-free mayonnaise? My health food store didn't have it. I guess I could make my own (what a drag!) |
Hilda
| posted 23-Jul-2008 12:50am
Where does it say in the book that mayo has to be sugar free? I must have missed that. I have been using the regular Hellman's. |
Hilda
| posted 23-Jul-2008 12:55am
It just says lowfat or nonfat mayo or soy based on p.53 |
Hilda
| posted 23-Jul-2008 12:58am
Broth based soups with no noodles are ok, vegetable, tomato, beef barley miso (page 53) |
Hilda
| posted 23-Jul-2008 1:00am
Oops, I've been overdoing the almonds. 10 is the limit. Page 55 |
Anonymous
| posted 23-Jul-2008 1:47am
Hilda this is a NFNS diet and we are suppose to read the labels to determine there is NFNS in the products we buy......therefore Mayo should be sugar free....however I know Suzanne Sommers recommends Hellman's and she also does no sugar. Hellman's is suppose to be lower in sugar than other brands. |
Bookgirl
| posted 23-Jul-2008 9:13am
Hilda--Thank you. I went back to p. 53 and saw that about the mayo--I had noticed that all the recipes called for sugar-free, but because of p. 53, I will use (sparingly) the others. Thank you soooooo much !! : )
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Connie
| posted 23-Jul-2008 9:41am
A friend of mine went on a popular diet a few years back. "Physicians Diet" I think. Dr Gott's diet seems similar. Anyway, she was only allowed to eat Durkey's mayo. Hope that info helps. I have decided to try and eliminate mayo. We'll see how it goes. She did lose a lot of weight. But gained it back when she quit the program. Last night I over ate. I went way over board on cereal with Splenda. NFNS involved, but still. I wonder if too much Splenda can ruin the plan. I have yet to be able to incorporate exercise. Soon though, I hope. Today I am going to find some easy snacks to have around. Dips, etc. I am also going to try and find a digital scale. Any recommendations? Thanks. |
Connie
| posted 23-Jul-2008 9:58am
Oops! I think it was Duke's mayo, NOT Durkee. I looked Duke's ingredient list up on line and it shows no sugar. |
Bookgirl
| posted 23-Jul-2008 6:56pm
I went to the store and checked out Hellman's, which says "not a significant source of sugar" and list as 0 the sugar content--so I'm going with it. |
Greg
| posted 23-Jul-2008 7:22pm
You can always count on Hilda! |
Bookgirl
| posted 23-Jul-2008 10:40pm
Hilda rocks!!!!!! |
Connie
| posted 24-Jul-2008 9:39am
This is day 4 for me on NFNS. So far, so good! I weighed this morning and the scales read 178. I find that very hard to believe, but that is what it said. I also began reading a book by Brenda Watson, "The Fiber 35 Diet" and have decided to incorporate some of her wisdom with Dr Gott's. Basically, increasing fiber and water intake. The health benefits are proven and this is a good time of the year to give it a try with all the great produce. I'm only to page 40, so I will keep you updated in case anyone is interested. I continue to sleep so much better and my energy level has increased. I have an out of town trip coming up to a nieces wedding. I will be staying with family and I'm not sure how my eating will be. When in Rome and all that. I ordered fruit sweet per DR Gott's instructions and it is delicious. I bought my first coconut and will be making NFNS granola today as well as the pumpkin dip. I have also ordered stevia in packets from "stevia balance" and plan to use that in place of Splenda when poosible. Ya'll have a good one. |
bronwyn
| posted 24-Jul-2008 1:24pm
Congratulations Connie.......what an amazing start. Interesting that you should mention Brenda Watson's book. I was just sitting here eating one of her fibre bars....Fit Smart.....they are made in Canada but I believe you can order them on Amazon.com. They are totally sugar and flour free with 10 grams of fibre and 10 grams of protein. My favorite is the chocolate chunk...unlike most protein bars these are actually a food bar none of those strange ingredients and chocolate coatings and hydrogenated oils and so forth that you see on most protein bars. I have tried several brands of the more healthy type of protein/food bars.... one of which was Dr. Weil's (which is gag awful in my estimation), Lara bars and so forth and I think Brenda's "Fit Smart" bars are better than all I have tried. If you eat one of them and drink a couple of glasses of water you are satiated for a good time (handy for when you are out). Half a one could be eaten for a dessert type satisfaction. I buy them by the case but I don't care for her shakes or the other flavours of bars too much. Her fibre pills are absolutely disgusting. Overall Brenda's book is a big advertisement for her products.....she describes what kind of protein bars you should use and although she never mentions her brand by name there is no other bar on the market exactly like hers nor one that meets the exact specification she mentions. She may as well say....for your fibre needs get the Fit Smart bar and my shake, ha, ha!!! Fibre is so important though and I think there are ideas from her book you could use. I cook a lot with lentils, beans, brown rice, quinoa and so forth which are highly nutritious and more dense in fibre than less complex foods or prepackaged foods.
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Connie
| posted 24-Jul-2008 2:08pm
Thanks bronwyn for the support and the update. I haven't read far enough into the book to see any purchasing advice, but I would be very wary of that! Do you go for the 35 grams of fiber a day and drink half your weight in ounces of water? That would be about 90 ounces of water for me and that seems extreme. I'm going to try for 64 ounces. I will look into the fiber bars. This morning a cut up a slew of fresh veggies, but I don't know how much equals enough fiber. I have a dieting history, like everyone else, and I hope to put all the good things that have worked in the past and put it all together. Have you read "Laura's Story" inline? She got down to a size 6 eating healthy. She bought the book "14 super foods". I will probably order that next. Surrounding myself with positive stories keeps me pumped. Thanks again for the support. It means more than I expected it to. This healthy eating is a lot of work and sharing rocks! Time to go drink some water. |
Moving Forward
| posted 24-Jul-2008 5:07pm
I just found this board and wanted to write about my experience. I started NFNS January 2 of this year. I hadn't heard of Dr. Gotti or this concept. It just seemed like a smart thing to do to cut out all sugar and flour. At first it was confusing to figure out what I could eat because so many foods have added sugar, but in many ways, this has been the easiest thing I've ever done. I also determined to eat 9 servings of fruits and vegetables everyday. That gives me something to work on instead of just "denying myself." I've lost 22 lbs, but I've eaten everything I've wanted and never felt deprived. I find myself "craving" frozen blueberries, sweet potatoes, and edamame. Someone gave me Dr. Gotti's recipe book for my birthday and that's when I found out other people are doing this. I'd originally planned to do this until Feb 2, but when that day came, I couldn't think of anything with sugar or flour that I really wanted. So, I set the goal of going until my birthday which was this week. That day I went out to lunch and had sourdough bread with butter and sweetened cream with berries. Later, my mother made me a pecan tart with honey and a butter cookie crust. For dinner I had chicken fingers, fries with ketchup (the thing I've missed most), and Texas toast. The next day, I was SICK! I could hardly get up, I went home from work before lunch, and my stomach was torn up all day. Wow! Did that ever teach me a lesson. It was like I'd been poisoned. I guess, in a way, I had. I've never stuck to a diet without cheating more than 3 days in my life. The fact that I went over 6 months without so much as a pinch of sugar or flour is so incredibly amazing to me - and it makes me feel invincible. That self-discipline has spilled over into all areas of my life. I've begun training to run a 5K and lifting weights. Life is good. Indeed. |
bronwyn
| posted 24-Jul-2008 6:06pm
Moving fore ward....WOW.....thanks for sharing!!!! |
Anonymous
| posted 24-Jul-2008 10:28pm
Connie I just looked at Amazon.com to check out the fibre bars......my choice (chocolate chunk) was the least favorite of the reviewers(no accounting for peoples' taste, eh, ha, ha) Just thought I would give you a head ups on that. |
Hilda
| posted 24-Jul-2008 11:42pm
I am seeing clients this week that I haven't seen since Christmas and they could really tell I was losing weight. Their compements were very encouraging. I am going on a weekend trip and taking my cooler. Goal is to stay on the plan while traveling. I too, feel bad if I eat too much now. I got some salty guacamole in a restaurant tonight and only ate two bites, but I could tell it was too much sodium later. I think if you only use the mayonnaise in things like deviled eggs, it won't be that many calories. I try to use mustard on hamburger patties or turkey wraps instead of the mayo. |
Connie
| posted 25-Jul-2008 10:54am
I can't wait until someone notices that I have lost weight! This morning the scales read 177. That is 8 lbs since I started this on Sunday afternoon although I realize a lot of it is water, I don't want to lose too fast and get sick. I feel pretty crappy today, tired...headache. Yesterday I drank 90 ounces of water and pretty much had no appetite at all. I ate some of fresh veggies with the pumpkin dip (yum) and a wedge of laughing cow. I couldn't eat dinner at all. My sister says not to worry, my fat stores burning will keep me from harming myself. This morning I'm hungry so maybe I'll perk up after I eat. |
bronwyn
| posted 25-Jul-2008 4:00pm
Connie how much water did you drink before......do you need to work up a little more slowly to getting your water in.....you know drink what you normally do and add a half a glass a day or a whole glass a day until you get to where you want to be? If you were eating a lot of sugar before you started this and then went cold turkey on the sugar you may have some adjustments to that....like a withdrawal kind of experience. Just some thoughts on that. |
Connie
| posted 25-Jul-2008 7:38pm
Thank you bronwyn for the continuing dialog. I actually thought I consumed a good bit of water, compared to all of my friends, but probably it was only about 32 ounces a day. I felt much better after breakfast today. I had some more veggies and dip and a small plate of corn chips and cheese for lunch. I have read farther in the fiber 35 book and have found out it requires counting calories. Ultimately, it claims, eating less than than you burn is the only way to weight loss. True enough. So, I think that is why the water is going to be so important for me. I have drank less today, about 70 ounces. Another thing that I have changed in my diet is the amount of cheese and dairy I eat. Normally, I would consume A LOT of both. My body has never found anything too cheesy or sweet. I would really like to continue this way for a while. If I can keep it up until the wedding, I can wear clothes I own instead of having to buy more. It seemed like suddenly nothing fit, but really I noticed things getting tighter and tighter. I am going to eat something for dinner tonight, even if it's only more veggies. Maybe I should look at this as my personal Phase One, and after the weeding, lean more toward Dr Gott's plan. Anyway, I think I have done good today foodwise. If I can say that at the end of everyday, I'll have it made! |
bronwyn
| posted 25-Jul-2008 8:04pm
Having no appetite is my dream...how lucky for you!!!! There simply isn't a way to lose weight without eating less than you burn....period. Dr. Gott states that as well......his way of lowering the calories is to eliminate 2 big calorie items....flour and sugar both of which are usually in foods with low nutritional value. Listen it took me almost 2 months to lose as much weight as you did your first week.....you are off to a much better start than me. Good for you!!!! |
Anonymous
| posted 26-Jul-2008 6:09am
6/14 208 lbs, 6/21 204 lbs, 6/28 203 lbs, 7/5 202 lbs, 7/12 201 lbs, 7/19 202 lbs, 7/26 199 lbs. Ladies, by cutting out flour and sugar, which I did completely I was able to go from 208 to 201 in about one month. That was pretty easy! Then my weight loss stopped. I was still not eating any flour or sugar but I stopped losing that one pound per week. Before that I would read Hilda’s posts saying I ate only one slice of bread or only a half cup of ice cream, but I figured that didn’t apply to me. After all, I was eating absolutely no flour or sugar. The large bowls of whole corn chips with cheese were allowed, as were the bowls of sugar free ice cream. Like Bronwyn says, I now realize that no flour and no sugar is really only part of the equation. The other part and probably the more important part is always taking is less calories than you burn. I brought my calories down to 1,800 (simple formula, goal weight times ten) and the weight loss accelerated. I am very sorry if I am confusing or making it more difficult for anyone. I just want to say that for me it is not only what I eat, it’s also how much! |
Greg
| posted 26-Jul-2008 6:13am
That above was me, Greg |
Connie
| posted 26-Jul-2008 10:05am
Last night at dinner, I ate more than I wanted to. But still, the scales read 177 this morning. No loss, no gain. I really did enjoy some nachos last night, all NFNS, but way too much. One of my sisters is the worlds biggest health nut. We have been emailing and she is convinced I should eliminate all non "real foods" from my diet. Like corn chips, sugar free treats, everything like that. And during this initial phase, all fruits. She is the one who talked me into buying stevia. I realize this turns Dr Gott's simple to follow plan into something much more restrictive. That concerns me. I also think her advice is the end result of a long journey (years) she has went through to learn about foods, their health factors and what works. She now a size 4. I don't know what size she started at. I have six sisters and half of us are "fat bottom girls." So I have now added some her tips into my eating plan as well. We compromise a lot. She has access to some very good health food stores. I do not. Last nights "binge" must have been the result of the previous day's low calorie intake. Note to self, don't skip meals! So, here's today's plan;
Breakfast- with small fresh fruit
32 ounces water
Lunch- veggies and dip and small protein
32 ounces water
dinner- meat and veggie
8 0unces water
bronwyn thanks for reminding me about portion size. Although my weight loss is faster than yours, I feel like it isn't rock solid. Just water. And Greg, do you really only weigh in once a week? For some reason I can't stay off the scales! Every now and then I notice my stomach (a big one) feeling tighter (what is that strange sensation?) and I run to the scales. Or, I have just peed 6 times in one hour, and I run to the scales! I know my weight loss should slow down soon, but for now it keeps me motivated.
Talk to you all at the end of the day!
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bronwyn
| posted 27-Jul-2008 12:13am
Greg I am going to try to incorporate your method.....figuring out how many calories I can have and then start to count some calories. I admit I absolutely hate the idea of doing that but I am stuck. I am kind of staying off the scales because I am scared to death of being back where I started. Oh Connie I actually don't believe there is such a thing as rock solid weight loss. I understand that we don't actually lose our fat cells....they just flatten out and there to fill back up if we aren't careful with our intake of calories. For any of you that are more scientific......excuse the pathetic description For me I have never got back as 100% NFNS day in and day out like I did the first 2 months. I go for a few days and get discouraged and give up......then I get mad and start again. I need some success!!!
You guys are all doing great.....keep it up!!!! |
Connie
| posted 27-Jul-2008 12:11pm
I am so new to this, I'm not bored with it yet! Do you think that is what's happening with you bronwyn? That is usually what happens when I try a new eating plan. I think the water is helping very much with cravings. Today I will use the last of the groceries I bought for NFNS dinner meals. So this afternoon I will be grocery list/meal planning. If I don't stock up ahead of time, I will screw up. My big disappointment is I haven't started exercising yet. I know it's important, but I'm not naturally inclined and until the eating plan is more ingrained, I'm slacking. |
Hilda
| posted 27-Jul-2008 11:56pm
I don't think drinking over 64 ounces of water a day can be good for you. Our bodies are getting a lot of water from the fruits and vegetables we are supposed to be eating. I had a friend who was drinking a lot of water and got really sick from it. Whose idea was this? |
Hilda
| posted 28-Jul-2008 12:10am
Hyponatremia is the medical term. Too much water can cause seizures and death. Eat the right foods and you will not feel deprived or hungry. Trying to take shortcuts for quick weight loss is not the answer. Please do some research. |
Greg
| posted 28-Jul-2008 8:23am
Connie, looks like you are on not only a low calorie diet but also a low carb diet. You will surely lose a lot of weight on that diet. But, is it too restrictive to stick to? The beauty of no sugar, no flour is that it is doable for the long haul. |
Connie
| posted 28-Jul-2008 11:09am
Hilda, I did go on line and looked up water consumption. A lot of web sites mention the deaths caused by too much consumption. I became worried. One common theme in each article was the victims were restricted in their ability to empty their bladders when needed and the water consumption was done in very small periods of time. Still, I have decided to spread my consumption of water out more evenly and drop the amount down. As to where I got the recommendation, "The Fiber 35 Diet." It suggests that a person divides their weight by half, and then drink that much water in ounces everyday. So, this morning I weighed 175. That means I should drink 87.5 ounces a day. I will count my coffee as acceptable water, thereby deducting 20 ounces from that total. I'm left with 67.5 ounces. I think I will drop that down to 50 ounces. 25 ounces before lunch, 25 ounces between lunch and dinner, but closer to dinner. I was surprised to read the conflicting accounts of how much water we should drink on line. I give more weight to the liver docs. They say drink when your thirsty.
Greg, I guess I am on a low carb/low calorie diet. I have a family function coming up and I decided to really try and lose for it. Afterwards, I will not be so restrictive. But I plan on staying on the NFNS forever. I am such a diabetes risk. It is rampant in my family. I have to do something. And the NFNS is easy. I very good friend of mine was recently diagnosed with it. She cut out flour and sugar and lost tons. She said it "melted away." That statement has been hanging around in my head for about a year. I actually have been thinking about doing this for quite awhile.
One last thought. Who hasn't lost weight rapidly for an event, only to gain it all back, and plus some? That is where I'm counting on the NFNS diet. I actually splurged yesterday with 2 plates of nachos for lunch. Light on cheese and without my usual helping of sour cream on top. And I still am down to 175 this morning. It is not my wish to be reckless and do myself harm. I'm just trying to let my fat stores burn at the most optimal rate I can provide. |
Tres
| posted 28-Jul-2008 2:38pm
Wow....I haven't been on in a while. Looks like everyone is doing great. I think we should all give ourselves a pat on the back.....if you are not losing weight at least you are motivated to stay with it...that is accomplishment in its self. i have lost 7 lbs. in the past month and find it very easy to stay with this way of living. When someone ask me if I am on a diet, I tell them no this is a new way of living. I do not plan on changing teh way I eat once I have reached my goal. I can have things that I normally can't when on a diet like corn chips....I love taco salad and I use corn chips in place of shells.....I do think I am at a plateau and don't know how to get around it.....I worked out in teh yard alot this weekend and I did sweat ALOT but I had gained a lb the next morning...I wondered if I was just holding water...is taht possible? I thought if I was sweating and drinking to keep my both hydrated while outside (I live in FL) that there would be no way I was holding water???? Any ideas? |
Greg
| posted 28-Jul-2008 3:01pm
Connie, sounds like a plan! |
Tres
| posted 28-Jul-2008 3:43pm
A good snack if you are craving something but don't know what is pork skins with cream cheese...sounds sick but it is really good...... |
bronwyn
| posted 28-Jul-2008 11:35pm
Tres pork rinds have 76 calories and 4 grams of fat in 14 grams. There are 250 grams in a cup; therefore, 14 grams of pork rinds is a tiny, tiny serving but a significant source of calories and fat grams. When you add the cream cheese to that it just bumps your snack up to even a higher level of calories and fat grams in a tiny serving. I don't know how often you are snacking on this or how big your servings are but, eliminating this snack may help you over your plateau.
Tres congratulations on your weight loss. |
Hilda
| posted 28-Jul-2008 11:58pm
I had a good snack today of thin sliced deli turkey wrapped around a thick slice of tomato. 3 slices of the turkey is 90 calories. |
Connie
| posted 29-Jul-2008 8:56pm
Hello NFNS gang. I have been able to stay on track, in large part, because of this web site. You all have inspired me, informed me and helped to keep me motivated. Thank you! Today I browsed through previous posts looking for tips I might have missed, and I really enjoyed reading it all...again! A few of you have become "my regulars" that I look forward to catching up with.
Greg- I love the way you begin your posts;...date, weight,,,date, weight. "Just the fact's, please." Are you sure your not a cop?
Hilda- Shouldn't you be running a corporation or a small country? You are so on top of this and leading the way with creative ideas.
And bronwyn- You are so smart. You're like a walking/talking food/nutrition dictionary. And a gourmet cook as well! Pretty much an authority on all. All I can say is, I could never lose weight if I spent as much time around food as you do. It just wouldn't work for me. I have had to stay out of the kitchen as much as I possibly can. Hang in there, we love hearing from you.
And to everyone else, I'm glad I ran across this site and all of you. We can help each other keep going.
I'm off to drink some water and eat some fiber! |
Hilda
| posted 29-Jul-2008 11:37pm
I think I have read so many diet books in the past that all of it has just stuck with me. I think Sugar Busters and the Weight Watchers plans have made the most sense to me. This is just so much simpler. I hated counting the calories and measuring. But it did teach portion sizes. |
bronwyn
| posted 30-Jul-2008 1:32am
ha, ha Connie.....you are so cute!!!! My passion truly is studying nutrition and cooking.....oh yes and then eating 
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Greg
| posted 30-Jul-2008 8:45am
Connie, No I'm not a cop. I mentioned I just got my teaching degree at age 53, I start August 24 as a special ed teacher. Posting my weight loss journey each week keeps me on track, its like when I write it that weight loss is set in stone. I can't go back!
I too am very fond of these ladies and I would descibe you as honest, upbeat and kind!
Tiffany, We have not heard from you lately, hope you are doing well! |
Connie
| posted 30-Jul-2008 11:16am
Greg, I do remember you posting your new profession. You just remind me of the Dragnet guy. Three of my sisters are teachers and one of my best friends is as well. Another good friend has worked in the school office for 18 years. The one thing I know about teaching is that it is a hard job! The rest of the world has no idea. The rewards though are priceless, and maybe one day the incomes will catch up! I takes special person to work with special needs. I wish you the best.
Here's a question for you bronwyn. I am not at all fond of brown rice, as in plain brown rice that takes 45 min to cook. I do like the flavored ones. So far I have only found one Uncle Ben's without sugar. But the ingredient list is huge. Lot's of extra stuff in there. Think that is bad for me? I am eating rice every other night as a side with dinner. Any idea's how to spruce up plain brown rice so it tastes like Uncle Ben's? You can jump in at anytime Hilda, or anyone else for that matter.
This morning the scales read 174. That's 10-11 lbs in 10 days. I lost this fast a couple of years ago on the South Beach Diet, but I couldn't stay with it. No one liked the menu. My pants are a tiny bit baggier, but when I look in the mirror after showers, I can't tell at all. With my love handles and thunder thighs I look like a square. You know, they always talk about body types as apples or pears...but what about squares? Some one once told me you lose weight from the last place you gain. That would mean my fat burning so far would be intramuscular. Of course exercise would help, but I continue to put that off.
Here's hoping everyone is successful today! |
bronwyn
| posted 30-Jul-2008 4:17pm
Connie you are not going to like my answer about your rice question.... I simply do not use ready to use goods.....hardly ever....ask my kids My children are home from University for the summer (I still have 1 out of 4 of my children still here full time).....and they will be rummaging the cupboards and deep freeze looking for something to eat. They always end up pronouncing....there is never anything in this house to eat. What they mean is there is not anything that jumps out of the freezer, fridge or cupboard that can be ready to eat in 5 minutes or less. Following this statement without my going to the store I can put together a pretty yummy and nutritious meal.......but yes it takes time and yes I spend far too much time in the kitchen. Cooking is my passion....the thing I love to do.....it follows way too closely on another passion and that is eating I have several family favorites which are my own creations.....and that is my favorite thing to do is putting together ideas and making unique dishes. I am also very confined to my house as I take care of my Mother who has dementia (I have had her here for just over 4 years). For the 4 years prior to my Mother moving here I had home schooled my youngest son for 4 years as he was not doing well at school. All in all I have been pretty tied to my home for the last 8 years......cooking is my creative outlet. My Mum is on a waiting list for long term care and when that space becomes available I would like to do something outside of the home.....however, having been out of the job market for so many years and at my age who knows what in the world I could find to do. I think it would be good to get out more.....and hey I would be far less verbose in my comments on line Greg I admire you going back to school in your 50's.....I am very impressed and wish I had done the same. I do have a Bachelors of Social Work and have worked in the field for a number of years but I have no interest in doing that work anymore so I wish I had taken a second degree or a Masters.
Connie you are doing so well, congratulations. I will post a recipe for the simplest brown rice recipe I can find.....try brown basmati though very good. |
Greg
| posted 30-Jul-2008 7:05pm
Bronwyn, you can get your masters in anything you want. Plus a masters doesn't take very long. If you can afford to take some time off, go back. School is one thing that really is easier as you get older. We are not interested in dating or drinking and we are more serious than the younger students. Something to think about. |
Connie
| posted 30-Jul-2008 8:10pm
bronwyn, I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. And your mother's of course. Maybe you shouldn't be putting any pressure on yourself to lose right now. I think it must be hard to try and concentrate on yourself while concentrating on another. For a long time, when I would talk to others about my weight, I would always say I would lose when it was time...when I was ready. At the least, don't be hard on yourself. I hope you have a support system for yourself, family that can help. And I agree with Greg, getting your masters is easier. My husband did it, the whole thing was very flexible. I found some rice recipes on line. I'll be giving them a go.
I hope you are having nice weather where you are. Being stuck around the house is always nicer when you can open some windows and just be outside a bit. And 4 kids! Egads! My husband had to beg for 2. Well, "beg" may be too strong a word, but you know what I mean. Anyway, take care girl.
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Hilda
| posted 30-Jul-2008 10:18pm
I, too, take care of my mother who has early Alzheimers, 5 days a week. My sisters have her one day each on the weekends. We stay with her in her own home, though, as we felt it was easier for her to stick to her routine here. My dad died 2 years ago, and we didn't realize how much he had covered for her. She also has celiac sprue and can have no wheat, rye,or barley. That is why I thought now would be a great time to get off flour, since she couldn't have any regular flour either. I am a Realtor and work a lot from her home. I can talk to clients by phone or email and research properties on my laptop from her home. My sisters take her in the evenings for 4 hours so I can meet with clients then, and on the weekends. I started selling residential property at age 50. My degree was elementary ed, and I finally decided I wanted to teach adults. So now I educate my clients. |
Hilda
| posted 31-Jul-2008 1:05am
What's wrong with brown Minute Rice? |
Greg
| posted 31-Jul-2008 7:57am
Hilda, were you a teacher? |
Hilda
| posted 31-Jul-2008 10:19am
Greg- I taught for 3 years right out of college, then stayed at home having 3 children for 12 years. After my divorce I had to go back to work, but never taught again until 2000 when I taught 6th grade after being out of the classroom for over 25 years.After that year, I knew I didn't want to teach for the rest of my life, but had always wanted to sell real estate.
The South Beach Diet only allowa 75-100 calories of sugar free treats a day -like sugar free fudgesicles, candy, or jello. Again, we have to watch portion sizes and not get carried away with these items. |
Connie
| posted 31-Jul-2008 10:51am
Morning all.
This morning I weighed in at 173. Woohoo! That's 12 lbs. I continue to have no appetite while drinking my water and at the same time eating fiber in the form of red/green bell peppers, celery and tomatoes. And of course, I'm staying out of the kitchen until dinner, when I make a larger meal.
bronwyn, I think you should write a cookbook. Have you ever considered it? I know there are a ton out there, but with your flair for varied healthful ingredients and "ooh la la" presentation, you could do it! New recipes are always wanted. Just a thought.
Good luck to everyone today. |
Anonymous
| posted 31-Jul-2008 2:38pm
Okay, I think I may have made my life sound pathetic.....it isn't.....I am just more restricted in leaving home (I have to make arrangements as my Mum can't be left alone). I do love to cook and I have the time so thus I spend way too much time in the kitchen. Hilda we could probably relate on a few things in our life experiences of looking after our Mum's.
Hilda life is a balancing act....you have to balance the benefit of the extra nutrients and fibre content of long cooking brown rice over the convenience of brown minute rice. You may choose the convenience and that is fine because you are doing what works best for you. Instant foods in general have many additives (just like Connie mentioned with her flavoured rices) and if they don't have the additives they are at least more refined. They have to be more refined for them to cook faster. I believe that instant brown rice has about half the fibre but overall you can bump your fibre up in other things you eat. The one thing I would say though is if you have ever eaten a really nicely cooked brown rice (I like brown basmati) then you will find the texture and flavour superior in the regular rice.....kind of a nutty taste and yummy. I still say though make what works bet for you.
Connie there is no reason for me to delay my weight loss( I haves done that forever already)....except for lack of dedication to do so. Knowledge means nothing until you take that knowledge and apply it to improving your life or those around you....so I do need to do that and now!!! Wow 12 lbs. in such a short time.....I can hardly imagine that kind of success...WOOHOO for you!!!
Greg at the moment we have 3 children in University and another one getting ready to go. By the way my kids go to school away from home...they are only here for the summer. It isn't a great time to be thinking of me going to school and truthfully I don't know what I would want to take anyways. I had considered getting a masters in Social Work at one point in my life but I actually don't think that is what I want to do. Good you for going back to school. |
bronwyn
| posted 31-Jul-2008 2:38pm
The above is me!!! |
late night
| posted 1-Aug-2008 1:49am
Just wondering, I just started cutting sugar from my diet. I'm not really interested at all in cutting weight- just burning fat (5'3 and my weight hasn't left the 150-160 range in 5 years) I've heard several times that eating after a certain time of night is a big no. But I'm usually up until 5am. studying then up again around 11am. So would this rule be modified for me? and if so how? Any answers would be awesome.
Thanks for your time! |
late night
| posted 1-Aug-2008 1:59am
Also I didn't see anyone talking about any supplements, but for hunger cravings I'm thinking about using psyllium seed husk capsules with meals. I also take CLA and L-carnitine. They've been helpful. |
Greg
| posted 1-Aug-2008 7:29am
Bronwyn, As I have been self employed my whole life I had considered opening a fast food restaurant. For me I would like a place that serves only a few items and make them better than anyone else, with generous portions and fresh food. As crazy as it sounds I would love to open a hot dog stand. Could use regular plus soy hot dogs. I saw one person made salmon hot dogs (I know it sounds horrible). Use fresh homemade toppings and keep the price down. What type of food do you most enjoy cooking? Would someone buy it? |
Connie
| posted 1-Aug-2008 10:07am
Hello late night.
I've been reading Brenda Watson's "Fiber 35" diet. She says, when supplementing fiber to look for a balanced fiber found in flax, or a combination of flax, acacia, and oat fibers. Her clients have complained too often of gas, bloating and constipation from psyllium. A health food store could help you out with that. I have found by eliminating both sugar and flour, my cravings are gone. And by increasing my fiber and water, so has my appetite.
I'm down to 172 this morning. I spent half the day at the dentist yesterday, another good bit of it numb, so I ate too little. Had a healthy dinner and I feel fine today. This plan is working so well for me it's scary! I think I've always thought restricting my calories so much would be unhealthy, or at least I would feel unhealthy . But, it's been fine. I know one reason is without the sugar and flour, I'm not experiencing any ups and downs with my blood sugar levels, and that feels really good. I have always had such a huge appetite! And I am a speed eater. We laugh about it when I am visiting family. One of my sisters is the same way. We can pile our plates and empty them in a flash. Cutting back on all the cheese and dairy must be contributing. I'm not so puffy feeling. It is a scorching 100+ degree here daily, so my energy output is currently low. Everyone stays inside. When it cools off, I will be walking and I've no doubt my appetite will grow!
bronwyn, thanks for all the info you have given me. You are a wonderful resource for everyone.
Everyone have a wonderful day! |
Tres
| posted 1-Aug-2008 10:27am
Where do you live Connie? |
bronwyn
| posted 1-Aug-2008 10:32am
Greg we should have opened a food place together. Food stuff has always been my dream of what I wanted to do(have to admit hot dogs never crossed my path of ideas however...personally I don't eat them). I think your idea with all the fresh stuff could be a big seller though. You could move into more healthy versions of hot dogs....a twist and improvement to America's favorite food. Of course making them better than anyone else would be a bonus but in my experience that can also increase your costs over and above what the market will bear. I have explored it with different ideas numerous times. Food places come and go....you have to hit the market just right with just the right idea and price range. I don't know about in the States but Crispy Creme only came to Canada like maybe 4 years ago and they are not doing that well. It was so busy when it first opened and then i think people became more educated as to the health aspects and it is just not all that popular today and I understand it may go under here. Anything restaurant style has an enormous start up with lots of risks involved. Do you remember way back before Mrs. Fields became a phenomenon (I am sure that is passe' at this point)and before there were any of those kind of one food wonders that people went crazy about....I was already "kind of famous'.....in my own mind and in my circle of friends for my cookies. I had wanted to market them somehow and as is always the case.....there were so many rules and regulations around food that I couldn't do it without taking the big leap into a big investment. I have to say my cookies were totally better than Mrs. Fields but the cost of production of mine were way more as well. In fact I won't bore you with the details but I have explored many different ideas.....mostly organic, whole foods and nutritious. I have bad knees and not great feet....I know losing the weight would help with these issues but if I had better knees and feet the one back to school thing I would like to do is go to a whole foods cooking school like the one in downtown Manhatten or Colorado. Those schools are very expensive but they do sound appealing to me. One of my best friends is in chef training right now but only here in town and a regular school...not organic whole food cooking. She doesn't have the knee issues and still struggles with the standing. Anyways you did pick up on my passion. What were you self-employed as? |
Connie
| posted 1-Aug-2008 3:01pm
Tres, I live just outside of Memphis. It's the temps plus the heat index that does me in. I relocated here with my husband yeas ago, but I'm originally from Michigan and miss the beautiful summers.
bronwyn, would it be possible to start out selling cookies etc at local restaurants, stores, boutiques? I remember hearing someone did that with great success. Just a thought. |
Greg
| posted 1-Aug-2008 8:48pm
bronwyn, so much to think about, so much to do. First off what would you call your cookies? How about bronwynchips or wynchips, mmmm I like that. You can put me down for a dozen! |
Hilda
| posted 1-Aug-2008 11:53pm
Do you think with all the overweight people in the US that a restaurant
that served only NFNS items could be successful? I wonder how many WW dinners Applebee's serves. |
Anonymous
| posted 2-Aug-2008 1:16pm
Greg can I sell my wynchips from your hot dog stand?
Hilda what a great idea....we all live in different places we could get together some great ideas start a franchise of NFNS eateries and each over see the operation in our own localities!!!!
Okay...I keep reading the posts here and I keep thinking tomorrow I am going to get into this (again) as seriously as you all are. Today is the day! My company has just left and there is no reason to wait until Monday. I have been on and off for a while now and now I am on with all of you. I forgot to weigh this morning but I will tomorrow and then we can get ourselves all into the shape we need to be in to start a franchise that showcases our success |
brownyn
| posted 2-Aug-2008 1:17pm
again the above is me but then again with the smiley face you all know that right |
Hilda
| posted 2-Aug-2008 8:47pm
I talked today to a gal I met at the Beth Moore simulcast. Did anybody else go to it in your city? There were 750 locations all over the US, Canada and Mexico. She had lost 94 pounds with gastric bypas and said her doctor was a big fan of NFNS. |
Connie
| posted 4-Aug-2008 4:02pm
Hello fellow dieters! After working in the yard a good bit this weekend, I had hoped to sweat off a few pounds. No such luck. I am staying at 172-173. My out of town trip is coming in four days. I am thrilled to have lost what I have, and hopefully I will be more comfortable in my clothes. Staying on the diet for the four days I will be there had me worried, but my sister called demanding a shopping list so I could continue the diet while visiting. She's a doll. So, that problem is solved. I have found almost everyone to be supportive about my efforts. Life is good.
Everyone have a great day. |
DJ
| posted 4-Aug-2008 8:48pm
Hi all- I have been on the diet for three weeks and am 5 pounds lighter and counting . . . I hope. A quick question. My family (husband and three kids) eat out a lot due to living 30 miles from town. Has anyone found things they can eat at the main fst food chains- Taco Bell, Wendys, McDonalds etc . . . or am I stuck with having to travel with my own food- Thanks everyone- DJ |
DJ
| posted 4-Aug-2008 8:56pm
I wanted to also mention that in addition to trying the NFNS diet I am also a recovering sugar addict. I noticed that some of you have a little trouble with the weight loss slowing down. I have to stay completely away from any kind of sugar substitute as well because for my body it triggers a binge even on the healthy NFNS foods. It really helped me to understand that my body reacts to sugar in a way that produces crazy thought processes that lead to uncontrollable eating. I sound like a nut I know but it really happens to people- DJ |
Connie
| posted 5-Aug-2008 5:23pm
Hi DJ. Be careful with the fast food places. I have read that they put sugar on everything, included salads. Taking your own food would be a pain, but well worth it. Also, maybe you could get your family to eat healthier too. Sugar is just one of the bad ingredients at fast food places. Congrats on your weight loss. |
Hilda
| posted 5-Aug-2008 11:15pm
Order a baked potato or baked sweet potato with your steak. Take a cooler to take half the entree home if portions are too big. At Ruby Tuesdays, I order the chicken and broccoli quiche with the salad bar and throw away the crust on the quiche. Take your own Ezekiel Bread and throw away the bun that came with the burger. Pinto beans and fresco crunchy taco at Taco Bell are lowest in calories there. Take your own veggies and dip and corn chips.Get a salad with avocado at a Mexican restaurant. Take your own dressing. Cracker Barrel has a side salad with blue cheese dressing on the kids menu along with a hamburger with colby cheese without the bun. |
Connie
| posted 6-Aug-2008 10:28am
Morning everyone. Weighed in at 171 this morning. Down two lbs. That makes my total loss 13-14 lbs. I thought about what I had ate over the weekend, some very good homemade onion dip with triscuits. Just too much of it I guess. Yesterday, I went back to veggies and chicken. And watched my portions plus some water. I believe I will have to keep this initial plan up for another month or so. My goal is to get down to the 150's before I let up on being so restrictive. The amazing thing is I do not feel like I am dieting! It must be the elimination of sugar and flour. No cravings. I never was one to eat dessert, so after I finish dinner, I'm done. I'm also happy to have learned new things about real food. I have used an entire bulb of garlic in cooking dinners since I started this plan. I am getting very good at chopping veggies! Hopefully, the weather will improve and I can start walking. That should help.
Have a great day. |
Kim
| posted 6-Aug-2008 2:31pm
Connie,
I also live just outside Memphis. Maybe we're neighbors??? I live in unincorporated Shelby County, but my mailing address is Cordova. I live kind of close to Eads. |
Kim
| posted 6-Aug-2008 2:34pm
The first week I started this diet, I lost 5 lbs. The second week, 4 lbs. About 3 lbs crept back up. I do realize that was probably initially water weight loss. So after three weeks, I've lost 6 lbs. altogether. I'm not seeing the scale go down now though. Maybe I'm eating too much of the good stuff. Should I limit my fats and carbs, now? Any suggestions? |
Connie
| posted 6-Aug-2008 8:32pm
Hi Kim. We are neighbors. I live in Millington.
For me, I had to cut down on the carbs I ate, limiting myself to mostly veggies and some fruit. And lean protein, of course. Since the weather is so bad, I'm staying in and not really exercising at all. When it cools off, I'll be walking. Also, by limiting my carbs to veggies and fruit (occasionally), I have no cravings. Portion size is very important. And I stay out of the kitchen as much as possible, most of my time in there is in the evening when I cook. Also, I have cut way back on the amount of dairy I'm consuming. This is a plan I think I can stick to for life. Good luck!
Hey bronwyn...what's up? I miss your postings. Hope all is well. |
bronwyn
| posted 7-Aug-2008 1:28am
Connie thanks for asking.....but I am really struggling. In February when I first started and was doing the program so faithfully I had the goal of being much thinner for a family wedding which is coming up on the 23 of August. With all that time to work at it I had thought I would be able to be feeling much better by now. Well as you know I have been struggling for a while now and as the time for the wedding has approached closer each day I felt more and more defeated and my eating behaviours have reflected my "give up attitude".....I am eating more and enjoying it less. For anyone who has battled their weight a long time and had on and off success you know how your confidence just gets shot. There is so much psychological stuff tied up with weight issues/ and eating behaviours. Anyways Connie I do admire your commitment....I know i can do that as well because I have before so I need to take your lead and follow it. I am not going to say that I am back on track because I have been saying that and then part way through the day derail. Connie do you think you are in ketosis....that is the only time in my life that I have lost weight so quickly like you have. By the way it is so funny to hear you talk about having bad weather (I thought in Memphis how could you be having bad weather in the summer!?!?!?)....then I realized that you meant too hot. We only refer to the weather as bad when it is cold....not warm. I thought you were gone on your holiday?
DJ I don't think you sound like a nut (well maybe you do but a nut I can relate to with the sugar cravings.....so we are both nuts) Getting away from sugar may be the only way to recover....and I agree about the sugar substitutes as well.
Hey where is Greg????
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Connie
| posted 7-Aug-2008 10:32am
Yea bronwyn...you're back! Girl, I have missed you. I don't know why I have latched on to you, maybe because your so smart, but damn it's good to hear from you. And to make my point about you being so smart, what is ketosis? Is it dangerous?
I admit to severely restricting my calories. It is surprising to me how little I eat, but I really have such a little appetite now. Maybe it's the hot weather. Everything slows down to a crawl physically when it's this hot. And not having cravings has made it possible to eat less.
Today I leave for the wedding. Weighed in at 171 this morning. A solid 13-14 lb loss since I started. I am very happy with it. But I had to get away from cooking. Or fixing yummy dips, etc during the day. I eat chopped up veggies, Laughing Cow cheese wedges for an occasional umph, sugar free peanut butter, once in awhile Uncle Sam's cereal and some grilled meat to get my protein. That's during the day. For supper, I fix a healthy low carb meal with tons of veggies and a small size meat. I didn't feel like I was helping my goal by eating crackers and such. Empty calories maybe. So I'm staying away from those. And then, I try to stay occupied and my mind off food. When I do feel a hunger pang, I eat. Just not a lot. And I have backed off all the water.
I have felt for a long time that I couldn't lose. I'm on HRT and an anti-depressant. I've read articles that claim these drugs can cause weight gain and inhibit weight lose. I'm sure that's true. But, it seems these road blocks can be overcome. How much, I've yet to find out. I was not heavy all my life. In fact I was very thin. I'm 5'9 and weighed 140 before my hysterectomy. that was where it all started. That, and aging. My mother and grandmother started out as tall thin chicks too, but morphed into large ladies with diabetes. Now, one of my sisters is on insulin. And I am the next largest in line. It is just a matter of time for me. I now think of food that is not allowed as very, very bad for me. That helps me make better choices. I know people say we shouldn't look at food as bad, but in my shoes, I disagree.
You can do this bronwyn. So what if you didn't lose before the wedding. Look at it as your last hurrah. The day before I started this, I ate an ENTIRE bag of dark chocolate with raspberry filling. I have been to lots of family functions with all my skinny sisters and I'm the big one. They all love me, and I'm sure your family loves you. You have all the info you need, now you just have to find a way that works for you. What works for me may not work for you. But after I felt I had enough info, I quit thinking about it, got my arse out of the kitchen and so far, so good.
And since negative feelings NEVER help, stop it. Your great..really. A much admired woman if ever there was one. A great spirit stuck in a shell that needs some work. Do the work. And keep in touch. I'll check in from my sisters during my trip. I wont be able to weigh, and I may even gain a lb or two. But that's ok. Have a great one.
And, Greg...you still around? |
browyn
| posted 7-Aug-2008 3:43pm
Connie I once did the Dr. Bernstein program which is a ketosis diet. It was very expensive and very restrictive....that is how you get your body into ketosis. I had to go into his office 3X's per week(not really him he is just the incredibly wealthy Dr. who has clinics all over Canada and a few in the States,,,like Florida and there abouts).... each visit you go with a urine sample, weigh in and have a Vit.B6&B12 shot in the backside or tummy. Anyways because it is so low in carbs and very low in calories your body goes into ketosis (which is suppose to be a rapid fat burning process, that you can determine you are in by using strips dipped in the urine...sorry for all the wonderful info . I lost 43 lbs. in just under 3 months.....and I was so thrilled but I looked like hell and still needed to lose another 43 lbs. People kept saying to me are you okay have you been unwell. It was fall when I was doing the program and I was so cold.....I couldn't get warm.....like chilled to the bone cold. At the clinic they were on my back all of the time that I wasn't losing fast enough and suggesting I was eating things I shouldn't have been. I started to be really concerned about the ketosis because I had done some research and found that ketosis can rob your body of calicum....this is a big concern for me because I have osteopenia (obviously my body struggles to absorb calcium properly anyways so to do something that exacerbated that problem didn't seem to be a wise thing to do). I talked to the Dr. in the office about it and she wouldn't directly answer my concerns instead she tried attacking me and suggesting any of my concerns or problems with the program was my lack of commitment. Gee I lost 43 lbs. in less than 3 months......beat me up about that?!??!?!? I quit the program and I thought I could keep the weight off but I found I could barely eat without my weight moving back up. Presently I am 14 lbs. away from being back to where I started.....and i am very heavy. This is my weight stats (I am 5"7")......a zillion years ago when I graduated from high school, I weighed 115 lbs. and I never felt thin even then. During University I put on some weight and during my 20's I weighed between 122-128.....I thought I was quite a chunk at that point. I had my first child at 29 and full term pregnancy I weighed 148. The same again a couple of years later .....each time I got back to 128-132. Then I started into dieting all of the time.....each time I did a diet I seemed to get heavier. By time I had my next two children (4 1/2 and 7 years later I started my pregnancy at 170). Since then I have been on and off diets and discouraged and unhappy with my weight and my success on programs. I am now 200 lbs.....YIKes.....believe me I don't write that often please destroy this message when you get it I really am not a heavy person in real life.....I don't know how to explain it but for many years now my body has been fat but I can't adjust to that and be happy because I am not really a fat person. I know people who say well this is me and everyone can just accept me for who I am......but this isn't me and I don't except me like this. The only success that I have had with weight loss is the Dr. B program and I have considered going back.......at about 660$ per month and having shots 3 times a week in my stomach (plus the inconvenient 3 x's per week visits to the Dr. office).....I just don't know. My goal has been 125-135 but really at this point I think 150 would be fantastic (albeit it more than I weighed full term with my first two pregnancies). Because I am not able to run in and out at will at the moment with my Mum's care I am bored a lot of the time and I do a lot of boredom eating. I try not to keep sweets in the house as they call my name......and so loudly you wouldn't believe it....ALL DAY LONG!!!! My daughter is home for the summer....5'11" and 125- 130 lbs......geesh how nice would that be, eh!!!
Connie I probably should write you individually......this is turning into way too long of a post for this forum. Listen have a fabulous time away and just have the fruits for treats instead of the other stuff......it will be easier than you think because you are not in the craving mode at this point. I am just going to try and hang in there until after the wedding......be as good as I can with the discouragement of failure hanging so dark and heavy over my head. My kids go back to school after the wedding and I am going to start on some new projects to keep myself doing something besides cooking and eating. I read about a new program out there that is similar to this but because of the carb cycling you lose weight faster. You can't add to this site so I will go find the name and tell you what it is but when I was reading about it I thought of you......I think you were doing phase one of this program.
Be good and have lots of fun......oh my word so many sisters.....how fun is that!!!!! |
bronwyn
| posted 7-Aug-2008 3:50pm
Connie.....
the name is Wendy Chant..."Crack the Fat Loss Code"........
the first week sounds really rough (just like yours).....but then things improve....you do it in 8 week cycles but you never do the first week again....I would like to read the book so I will look for it and update you later....... |
bronwyn
| posted 7-Aug-2008 5:19pm
I know I have filled my quota of space on here today already BUT.....I was just thinking that there are a few of us here who have (or in my case "HAD") lost some weight and then got discouraged because it seemed to stop there. There may be some of us (Hilda I know this hasn't happened to you) who needcd to tweak the program to make it continue to work for us. Maybe "Crack the Fat Loss Code" will have some answers or ideas that can be incorporated into NFNS.
Greg we are still waiting to hear from you and how you are doing? Maybe you are tied up researching a location for the Hot Dog Stand.... |
Hilda
| posted 8-Aug-2008 10:07am
Lack of sleep can contribute to weight gain. We must get 7-9 hours of sleep to produce leptin, a protein that suppresses appetite. I had never read about this before. |
