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No Flour, No Sugar Diet






Summary


Dr. Gott's No Flour, No Sugar Diet presents a simple, straight-forward way to lose weight and keep it off for a lifetime. All you need do is eliminate flour and sugar from your diet.


 

Description


This diet book contains common-sense techniques on how to eat better and achieve a healthier lifestyle. It gets you to focus on foods that are nutritional and satisfying. Thus, you can both lose weight and become healthier in the process.

You can eat brown rice, lean meats, low-fat dairy products, fruits and vegetables. But, you have to stop eating foods like bagels, pasta, bread, cereal, white rice, cookies, sweets, and cakes.

Many excellent recipes are included in the book with have no flour and sugar, yet taste delicious.

The approach is to keep things simple by just eliminating flour and sugar, the two primary food ingredients that are causing the obesity problem in America. Our culture has become addicted to sweets. This book helps you break the addiction and get on track for eating healthier while losing that extra weight.


History


Dr. Gott is a medical columnist published in over 350 newspaper daily. He is a practicing physician with a general practice in Connecticut. He's also the director of medicine at Hotchkiss School (a prep-school).


Criticism


Giving up bread and sweets may simply be too hard for some people. Sugar is in a great majority of products sold today. While the diet sounds simple, implementing it and sticking to it is quiet a challenge.




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Connie
posted 10-Apr-2009 10:02am

Morning fair ladies of NFNS!

I slept in late, feeling chipper this morning. I'm watching the chase in California right now. The lady driver has been cracking me up. Robyn said "it's like watching Dukes of Hazzard." Crazy driving! Hopefully she will run out of gas soon. I know this is a serious situation, but her driving made me laugh out loud.

Ok, the date. Son came home before I turned out my light. It was an early night for him because he had an early case a St Judes this morning. He came into my room, so I figured he must want to talk. I asked about the date, he said it was fun. "Are you going out again?", "I don't know." "Do you want to go again?" "Yes."
Yippee!

I'm not weighing this morning. I munched last night about 2 am and 5 am. Rats, darn and dagnabbit!

Two very close friends have lost one of their parents within the last 3 days. I'll be going to the funeral home a lot this weekend. I just keep thinking, we all get our turn. Love your family everyday, you never know.

We never got the rain last night, although it remains dark skies. Probably humid and bad hair days are a sure thing.
Connie
posted 10-Apr-2009 11:46am

I did it! I rode my bike around town and dropped off local bills. Woohoo! Maybe I should have bought a bike with more than one speed. Those little hills in the road felt like mountains! But I did it, never having to get off my bike and push. Man, I'm out of shape. I remember from my fit or fat days the lesson that you need to involve your thighs and bum to be aerobic, or something like that. And once again my thighs are screaming. And now my legs feel rubbery, so mission accomplished. I guess if I can ride my bike enough this year and build up my strength, maybe I can get a bike with three speeds for next year. Now I need to look up exercises to work on my flabby arms!
K10
posted 10-Apr-2009 12:07pm

Bronwyn: Because it has the GI on it, I was able to do the math equation I got off the internet. That was when we weren't sure if we divided by 10 or 100. I divided it by 100 and came up with the answer. This was from a post last week that I did; if the serving has 12 grams of carbs (less fiber, like my slice of Ezekiel bread had 15 grams of carbs minus 3 fibers and that made 12) and a GI of 36 the equation looks like this: 12x36=432 divided by 100= 4.3. This is the GL of that slice of bread. We do need the GI of things to figure it out. Last night I was thinking I came up with something different 4.8, but it was 4.3. Yay, it was right.

2girls: The GL depends on your weight. I have a list from shaklee that says: more than 175 you get 80, 150-175 you get 65, and less than 150 you get 55. Here is where I got this info from. shaklee.com/pws/library/products/wn_gi_gl_tables.pdf.

Connie: Glad about the date. So sorry about your friends' losses. I went to 3 funerals in February. I haven't turned on the TV yet. Being a Californian that lives in the LA area, chases are a dime a dozen. I wish they would stop showing them. Tell us what freeways to avoid and be done with it. If you are watching the tv, you probably aren't driving, so it doesn't matter anyway. I don't know how many good shows have been interrupted because of some idiot. Or they do the chase as a lead-in story on the evening news and they waste all this time on it.

We have had so many hit and runs here too. Then the pitcher for the Angels was killed night before last, because of a drunk driver. Last week a girl and her friend were hit by a drunk driver at USC and she was killed. That person fled the seen too. The worse part of that is, the passenger got out of the car and tossed the boy who lived, off of the hood. He is recovering. It is so sad. Do you guys have very many hit and runs where you live?

Angie: What is the texture of powdered peanut butter?

Triplet Mom: how is the website coming?

What are you all making for Easter?

I hope we all have successful NFNS days today.

K10
posted 10-Apr-2009 12:08pm

YAY CONNIE!
2girls
posted 10-Apr-2009 12:34pm

Thanks for the website K10, I'm going to check that out as soon as I can! I wish I could surf the internet all day at work, dang it, just breaks.

I'm not making anything for Easter, going to my mother-in-laws. I've never made a holiday meal, probably would be a disaster, lol.

Good job Connie, bicycle seats always hurt my behind. Plus, since I'm heavier I wouldn't want to ride bike during the daylight, I always think people would see me and be like where's the seat? ha ha, seriously I laugh when I think about it, sad I know.
2girls
posted 10-Apr-2009 12:39pm

ok, so I hope you guys didn't get offended by my bicycle seat comment sorry if it did, I'm pretty sure most of you girls are way smaller than me and look just fine riding a bike. Open mouth insert foot. I crack jokes about myself once in a while, guess that's how I cope with my weight sometimes.
Connie
posted 10-Apr-2009 1:07pm

2girls, your comment was fine! I think because you laughed about it. You did laugh about it. right? If you were down on yourself and sad about it, I guess it would still be ok, but we would be concerned about your negative feelings. I have been trying to find a long sleeve shirt to wear tonight to hide my arms. It is very windy today and I made sure to wear a long sleeve shirt on my ride because I didn't want my flabby arms blowing in the breeze. I thought that was a funny thought I had when getting dressed this morning.

My bike still has a couple of kinks. The more I rode, the lower the handles were going. Not the entire height of the handle bar, just the handles themselves. And then the seat is pointed up a bit. Ouch! Hopefully I can get those fixed soon.

K10, it does seem all the chases we see are from LA. We very rarely have interrupted viewing. That would drive me nuts! I read about the ball player this morning, so sad. These repeat offenders should be locked up for a long, long time.

I am not doing Easter baskets. I haven't done them in a long time. Usually I get some candy for the kids. But not this year. I'm going to find something else for them. Maybe a gift card.

Hilda, sounds like the girls are having a blast. What fun for adult sisters to get away together and have some fun.
2girls
posted 10-Apr-2009 1:22pm

Connie, yes I do laugh about it. Sometimes it's really hard to know when someone is joking all in fun when it's typed out and I wanted to make sure everyone knew that, I'm a joking around kind of person, think I learned that at an early age that being funny is better than getting teased. I was heavy as a kid, then as I got older I gradually "slimmed" down, ok so 175 lbs was slim for me, but after a couple of kids it's been harder. Oh, don't know if I said or not I'm 32, husband is 32, 2 girls one 11 years the other 7 months, yep they're 11 years apart, but I do have to say this time round is a lot easier.
Bronwyn
posted 10-Apr-2009 2:28pm

A sense of humour keeps us all sane.....well more or less sane surprise (that doesn't seem to be the right spelling,,,,,looks weird). Going out of town for a funeral....an Aunt who has been in a nursing home for a long time....a blessing. Gone for the week-end.

Connie so impressed with your bike riding/ bill paying expedition.....woo hoo.....good for you!!!!!

Remember the true meaning of Easter......it has nothing to do with chocolate so we don't need it!!!!
2girls
posted 10-Apr-2009 3:36pm

Have a great weekend and Easter everyone! I don't work on the weekends so I will be back Monday.
Connie
posted 10-Apr-2009 3:46pm

Happy Easter 2girls.
Hilda
posted 10-Apr-2009 4:35pm

If you are going to someone's home for Easter, take a dish you can have that is NFNS but that others will want to eat, too. Deviled eggs, veggie tray and hummus or other dip,fruit salad (my grandkids always want mini marshmallows in it).

Please continue to pray for my girls. The travel is dangerous. I got an email that unnerved me today.
Hilda
posted 10-Apr-2009 4:40pm

One of my holiday favorites is spinach dip and triscuits and baby carrots.

I am applalled that this weekend, all the news has to say is that there are fewer Christians in the US. I am also upset with Rick Warren. I am so glad I go to a church that preaches the truth. This is a weekend to celebrate. Jesus is Lord and He is Risen!
Angie
posted 10-Apr-2009 4:43pm

K10 you have to add water to the peanut butter powder so you can actually make it thick or thin. The website is bell plantation .com no spaces I just did that so I wouldn't get knocked off. I have never tried to put a website on but I know others have had probllems with it. It is good if you add truvia to it. You can actually stir your jelly in with it and it's great. People use it to make cookies and shakes. I ordered 4 jars so I will see how creative I can get. I am cooking pork tenderloin with some rice and green bean casserole. I am cooking some English peas for me...I am the only one who eats them. I am also making a new apple, grape, celery salad that has a peanut butter sauce on it. The recipe is on allrecipes and is called nutty apple salad. I'll have to let you know how it turns out but thought it would be a good way to use my new PB. Hubby and I and his parents are going bike riding tomorrow then coming back here to eat. Happy Easter everyone!
Angie
posted 10-Apr-2009 4:46pm

Hilda why are you upset with Rick Warren? I haven't heard anything. We will be in prayer for your girls. When are they suppose to come home?
K10
posted 10-Apr-2009 8:23pm

Hilda: I saw Rick Warren's comments and they bothered me too. I don't want to upset anyone regarding this so I will leave it at that. They were on the internet this week so you can look them up.

Angie: I will have to look up the website and see what is on there. How long have you been into riding bikes on the weekend? You sure go far.

2girls: My husband and I bought bigger seats for our bikes. We call them our "big butt seats." Sometimes the bike seats just hurt.

I picked up my Honeybaked Ham today. I am looking forward to that. I am sure it doesn't have any added sugar. HA HA HA!!!!

Angie
posted 10-Apr-2009 9:26pm

My husband got me into bike riding when we got married plus there are great bike trails here. Both go about 50 something miles. They are paved and split into two sections for people who walk also. They go by the beach, through the woods and small towns. It is really nice till it gets so hot you can't enjoy it. My rear hurt at first but I guess I have it broke in now. If we don't ride for a couple of weeks it will hurt at first. I actually got a seat that is made for women. It has a split in it so there is not so much pressure in the front if you know what I mean. I use to go numb.

where on the net was Rick Warren's comments? I know our church would not do the Purpose Driven Life and I always wondered why. I have only seen him in the debate with Obama and McCain.

I love honey baked ham. I use to buy one every Christmas when I lived in Georgia. I haven't had one in over 4 years.
Connie
posted 10-Apr-2009 10:10pm

Made it home from the viewing and then dinner out at McAlister's with friends I haven't seen in awhile. My daughter joined us for dinner. The friends we ate with had their 3 kids with them. My daughter used to babysit them when they were little. Preschool through elementary. Anyway, she hasn't seen them in 6 years. It was a fun dinner. I had the veggies spud.

I may have had some flour today. I'll find out tomorrow. If I get stomach cramps, I will know it was in with some rice I had at lunch.

The viewing was sad, of course. I did get to see a lot of people I haven't seen lately. Everyone was surprised with my weight loss and I told them all about Dr Gott. One lady I sat with told me how she has been exercising her bum off and not losing. Maybe now she can.

Night all, Hilda your daughters will surely be in my prayers.
Angie
posted 10-Apr-2009 10:33pm

I found the Rick Warren article I think. All I will say is we can't be lukewarm. Goodnight everyone.
K10
posted 11-Apr-2009 1:23am

Angie: We definitely can't be lukewarm. The article had to do with Proposition 8 here in California. It defines marriage as between a man and a woman. There has always been something about Rick Warren that just rubbed me the wrong way. I just think of Billy Graham and how he has been able to do what is right in God's eyes and he doesn't compromise. The church I went to up until 3 years ago didn't do it either. I think the church we are at now may have, but I am not sure. We left our old church, because we moved and we wanted our girls to be active in the youth group. I think you can order Honeybaked Ham online if you don't have a store near you. With NFNS it is probably better if you don't have it. We eat it twice per year, Christmas and Easter. The city right by us has made a bike path, I should try it before it gets too hot. What state do you live in?



Debbie M
posted 11-Apr-2009 1:25am

My stomach is growling. I don't want to snack because I've had a very successful day and I don't want to ruin it. I'm sure I'm under in calorie expenditure, and that my friends, is what matters most. I was looking at my arms and legs and I just can't accept what I see. This last 10 pounds that I put on have really made a terrible difference. I want to cover them up because they are so fat. I didn't feel that way 10 pounds ago. So that will be my goal. 10 pounds.
Connie
posted 11-Apr-2009 10:45am

Debbie, I think, from reading your post, your up very late and hungry when ideally you would be asleep and not having to deal with it. Well, I think the best thing you could do in a situation like that would be to eat something filling. Who can fall sleep with hunger pains? And drinking water that close to bedtime would keep you from falling asleep with trips to the bathroom. Maybe some tortilla chips with a little bit of cheese. The cheese would bring down the gi of the chips. And it would be hearty enough to satisfy you. Stick to NFNS and you will be fine.
K10
posted 11-Apr-2009 11:59am

I pigged out yesterday evening. I am so disappointed. It was all NFNS and some of it was fruit, but I was eating just to eat. Sometimes I can do so well with this type of thing. UUGH! Today is a new day and hopefully I will not repeat the behaviors of last night.

Have a great day all, I need to clean, we have company tomorrow.
Connie
posted 11-Apr-2009 1:26pm

K10, you did fine, No, you did great! Do you know how hard it would be to stick to a eating plan if you couldn't "eat", even "eat lot" when you need to? It happens, and the fact that you stayed NFNS means you were 100% victorious! If you did it everyday, you would have a problem, but once in awhile is ok. I can't tell you how many times I have done it. Every now and then, it is totally natural. NFNS will not fail you. You go girl!
K10
posted 11-Apr-2009 2:39pm

Thanks Connie.
Angie
posted 11-Apr-2009 5:58pm

My company just left. It was very windy this morning and riding bikes in the wind wears me out. I am going to get a bath and I think I will go on to bed and watch TV till I fall asleep. It's been one of those days. K10 I live in Clearwater, Florida. Our nice cool days are coming to an end. We turned on the air conditioner for the first time today. At least we never turn on any heat but the summers do eat us up. My husband is sitting across from me already snoring and it's only 6:00PM. I could do the same. Everyone seem to enjoy my meal today. Leftovers for supper. Feeling very sleepy so everyone have a beautiful Easter tomorrow and God Bless each one of you.
Connie
posted 12-Apr-2009 9:44am

Morning. Happy Easter!

I did not have a good night last night. I am not going to weigh for a couple of days. I never stay NFNS in the middle of the night. When my daughter goes back to school tomorrow morning, she will take all the junk with her.
kathy
posted 12-Apr-2009 10:32am

Connie-hope all is going to be alright with your toe. I collided with my son (We were too excited about some baseball game on tv) I was barefoot and he had probably size 14 sneakers. I hit my big toe straight on. It bruised very badly and was very painful. Went to the podiatrist the next day. I'm sorry but I don't remember how it was resolved. I had to wear sandals alot. I may have had the podiatrist remove the nail-I don't remember. Most of that nail was dead or damaged. The new nail grew back in a while (6 months?) Now it's fine. Gotta go. We are in Florida visiting my mother for Easter.

Did anyone get me mixed up with Kathleen? I'm kathy(use to be kashton).
kathy
posted 12-Apr-2009 10:34am

Bronwyn-what book did the book club discuss? I am reading the Glass Castle right now.
Bronwyn
posted 12-Apr-2009 1:20pm

I also found the Rick Warren article and all I can say is that too many people are running popularity contest where their ideals are "blowing in the wind" and bending to whatever they believe will make them more popular. I believe in free speech and believe people should be able to express their feelings even shockingly enough smile if they are Christians values. I may be wrong because I wasn't there (in California) but it seemed to be the only ones being really nasty were the ones opposed to the Christians stating their views. The media seems to help promote the idea that if people value Christian principles then they are intolerant people who are red necks with little education. I think people on both sides of this issue should be thankful to live in a democratic country where people can express their right to believe and worship as they see fit or not......but when the majority rules that they would like to continue with a principle they uphold and believe; then, why is there so much hatred and why are such terrible labels applied to the Christians who stood for their beliefs. It seems that the only group that it is really politically correct to criticize is Christians and Christians beliefs. I read Irving Stones biography on John and Abagail Adams a few years ago and I was so moved by their story and about the founding fathers dedication to the forming of declaration of independence. Anyways I am not an American but I hate to see the basic values of countries being over ridden by special interest groups and Hollywood. Either group on either side of this issue should be free to live their lives as they choose but a small vocal minority should not be able to have so much power to over ride the basic beliefs or practices of the majority. There are too many people who are so easily swayed by the vocal minority because they are so powerful and have such loud and prominent supporters such as Hollywood......do we really want Hollywood being our moral compass......really do we. I have no animosity for people who don't believe the same as I do and I wish as a Christian I could be given the same courtesy but you can see more and more how standing for your beliefs as a Christian makes you a target for great criticism. I don't want to force my beliefs on anyone but I want to be free to have my beliefs and to defend them.

Kathy we read "Their eyes were watching God". Next month we are reading "Still Alice"....a story about a woman with Alzheimers and in June we are reading "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn". Are you in a book club? I have looked at the glass castle a few times and considered buying it.....do you recommend it?

I have not had a good NFNS week-end......I seem to not be good at leaving home and eating well. Anyways I am back home and have the right kind of foods to choose from and I plan to do that.
Angie
posted 12-Apr-2009 5:43pm

Amen Bronwyn! You said what many feel we just don't stand up for ourselves. We have only two choices we either stand for Him or against Him and there is no in between. We had great Easter services. I have eaten too much this weekend so Monday back to the grind!!!
K10
posted 12-Apr-2009 6:21pm

"He is risen, He is risen indeed."

Happy Easter everyone. Our company is on their way over and we will be eating soon. It is only 3:22 here.

Bronwyn: I really liked what you had to say and Christians seem to be the only group that it is OK to bash.

Take care everyone.

kathy
posted 12-Apr-2009 8:41pm

Bronwyn-I am not in a book club. Do you enjoy the discussion? I do like The Glass Castle. It reminds me of the style that Catcher in the Rye is written. It's a young person's description of growing up in an unusual family. I'm only about 20% through the book but still liking it.

Everyone: I went to an Easter buffet and feel like I ate pretty well. It has a lot to do with everyone's comments on how to be careful about what they eat and portion size. I also have enjoyed reading all the posts today. I haven't seen any of my senior center exercise friends (they are mostly ages 55-62, not that old and still in very good shape) so have missed their companionship. Glad to have all your companionship! We are going back to Massachusetts on Tuesday. My mother is 88 and doing very well in Florida.
K10
posted 12-Apr-2009 11:09pm

My company just left. They brought yummy grilled veggies, rolls, ice cream and whipped cream. I contributed the ham, potatoes and the best strawberries. I didn't have one roll, whipped cream or ice cream. The ham had sugar, the potatoes had cream of mushroom soup, which has some flour in it, but I am pleased with what I didn't eat. My girls were scarfing down the rolls. I wonder how many they had???

I hope we have a good NFNS week. I will eat the ham and potatoes that I have, but other than that I hope to do well. We will be camping at the end of the week, so I hope to do a lot of bike riding. I am trying to figure out what to make for meals, any suggestions? My daughters friend is coming. Her sister has other plans so she won't be able to come. The four of them had so much fun last time. I think the three will get along fine.

Kathy: Glad you are back.

Kathleen and Triplet Mom: Where are you?

Have a good night ladies.
Debbie M
posted 12-Apr-2009 11:21pm

Good evening, Connie you are right about not being able to sleep with a growling stomach. I should have been sleeping but unable.
Easter was good considering all the sickness in this house again. My son's fever was almost 104 last week. Now another child has 101 and that was after a glass of water. Tomorrow they go back to school but I have a feeling osme will be home. I hope my parents don't get sick as we went to their house before the second fever popped up. This has been a nasty bug but I have managed to stay well.
Way to write Bronwyn, You sound like an American. I always think of our Canadian neighbors as kind of an extention of America. I hope you and I can sleep tonight.
Good night.
Debbie M
posted 12-Apr-2009 11:24pm

K10, Where will you be camping? We were going to go for a couple nights this last we but, alass, sick kids. Oh well, the season is young, actually, just beginning. It will fun to take the new camper for her maiden voyage. We already have resevations for all the holiday weekends. You have to make them in advance around here or they will be all full.
Hilda
posted 13-Apr-2009 12:25am

My daughters are home safely from their adventure in Egypt. Tired, and having to go back to work tomorrow. Thank you for the prayers. The first thing they did was get in the shower and scrub. One daughter ate mostly rice and bread and hot tea,as she is allergic to seafood and had been on NFNS and lost 6 pounds before she left. She lost another 5 during the trip. but she did not get sick until she ate airplane food on the plane to Germany.They drank bottled water. The other daughter was able to eat the seafood and loved it. They were on separate planes and one landed at 1pm and the other not until 8:30 tonight. They bought beautiful scarves, visited Roman catacombs, the Alexandria library and climbed the pyramids. They brought me some tea that smells like licorice, and something else I haven't seen yet.I will be seeing a lot of pictures when they are rested up. A pilot of a plane in Florida died today during a flight and a passenger had to land the plane.God had to be with them.

Bronwyn, you are so articulate on your beliefs. Thank you for being bold. Amen to what you said.
Debbie M
posted 13-Apr-2009 1:06am

I'm awake again. Its going to be one of those nights. Do any of you take meletonin? I saw it in the store the other day. It said it promotes sleep.
K10
posted 13-Apr-2009 1:14am

Debbie M: We will be going to San Diego, CA. We go to a place where we are near the water and there are bike paths. We are close to Sea World. We actually got our favorite camp site. I like to say we concrete camp. Any ideas for foods to prepare while I am gone? I hope your kids feel better fast.
Hilda: I am so glad that your girls got home safely.
Bronwyn
posted 13-Apr-2009 1:46am

K10 you know one thing I think works well for camping food is salmon patties. I like the Alaskan sockeye salmon which is in a can and easy to bring camping. Mix it will some chopped onion, red pepper, a little ground ezekial, red pepper flakes (and I like some chopped cilantro) (could have all that ready and in a container to mix with the salmon when you open it) and an egg. Mix well and make into patties. Saute the patties in a little oil on both sides for a few minutes until lightly brown and serve with a quinoa black bean salad (which you can make ahead and bring). Just one idea.
Bronwyn
posted 13-Apr-2009 1:48am

Sorry you are having one of those nights Debbie M.......I hate that. I have not had good results in melatonin. I have taken it without any benefit and then been so tired the next day.....like I felt groggy I believe from the melatonin which didn't help for sleep at night.
Angie
posted 13-Apr-2009 8:02am

Good morning everyone. Hilda so glad your daughters are home safe! K10 sounds like you have a lot of good adventures ahead. Keep us updated. We are not taking a real vacation till the Christmas holidays. He is taking a day here and there but no big plans. Debbie M I hope everyone gets well soon and your parents escape. Sounds like everyone was pretty good over the weekend. I ate some shrimp with cocktail sauce and it must of had a lot of sugar in it. I have been bloated all weekend. I also ate cheetos (too many). One thing about this diet if you stick to it and then slip in something you shouldn't eat your body will let you know it. I'm learning and starting with a new slate today!
Connie
posted 13-Apr-2009 9:43am

Morning. I too ate off the plan this weekend. More than I ever have before. I'm glad to get back on track today.

Hilda, glad your daughters made it home safely. I'm sure their travel tales will be wonderful. I hope you will share some with us.

After reading the previous posts about Rick Warren (my husband has taught Purpose Driven Life 2 times at SS), I realized my initial instinct was to keep quiet. That is very telling of the plight of Christians in today's world. Of course I do love a good religious conversation, but I've become reluctant to put my head on the chopping block, if you know what I mean! I'm not sure where our country is headed, much less the world. But I am sure of my faith and I share it when I can. And yes, I do believe I am called and responsible to do just that.

Speaking of religion, vet girl is a Mormon. No drinking (great!), no smoking (great!), no dancing (?)! I'm not sure how limited in "fun" her lifestyle is. Maybe "fun" isn't the right word to use here. Anyway, she has called son and they have gone out a couple of more times. Always he is home by 10:30. She does seem to like him. Hopefully soon he can figure her out. He is not sure about a relationship yet. Good deal, he should take it slow. I just don't what to think. I had a good friend in my younger years that was a Mormon. I didn't notice anything "severe" in her lifestyle. I'll keep you all posted.

Everyone have a great day!
K10
posted 13-Apr-2009 10:44am

Well the ice cream was calling my name and I gave in. Oh well, now it is gone. I am off to exercise with my friend. She was on jury duty all last week. I will check in later.
Angie
posted 13-Apr-2009 11:27am

Connie there are many books out there that are a great study and make us think. I read Purpose Driven Life. I think we can gain good out of these books as long as we use the Bible to back them up. Also, there are good speakers and you have to judge their words by the Bible. We are all human and have our own ideas but the Bible is absolute truth. No one is going to agree on everything but He will give us wisdom in this world. There are some speakers that come on Christian television that I don't agree with everything they say but they also have very good messages. We all just need to know the Word so we can discern for ourselves.

My husband is a Catholic and I am a Baptist. We go to his church sometimes and mine sometimes but we both believe in Jesus Christ and His saving power on the cross.

I am doing good so far today. Back to counting calories. I had half Ezekial muffin and 2 pieces of bacon for breakfast, tuna salad with red grapes and rice crackers for lunch.
Debbie M
posted 13-Apr-2009 2:08pm

There are so many challenging things going on here today. Its all I can do to not jump into bed and have a nice long nap. No I can't do that. I have to face them head on. I'm tired though. A nap really does sound good.
Maybe I just need to complain for a while. I might just call a friend and go out to have chips and salsa and a margarita. Blah blah blah, its just all too much. Yesterday I spent 3 hours with tachycardia, that was tiring. Today my van broke down and I had to push it out of the road after asking a strange man to help me. He did. Then I had to walk home, about 2 miles and it started to rain slushy rain on me. I ended up at my dentists office and called my Mom for a ride. 2 sick children home from school today. Kitchen dirty from Easter Dinner I made but was too tired to do the dishes. And the refinance is off. That didn't work out.

Good thing we wern't on the highway in St. Louis next month when the van broke down. It looks like (after husband took time off from work to lay in the mud and try to fing out what was goin on with the van) that it was the garages fault for not putting on a connecting tube when they replaced the radiator and water pump. So all the tranny fluid drained out. I hope the transmission is ok. $$$ could be bad. Waiting to hear about that. FEW

Going back to bed.
Bronwyn
posted 13-Apr-2009 2:17pm

Oh my word, Debbie M. It seems like challenges come in big bundles. All of those things happening so close together would be so discouraging and overwhelming. Some times I have to make a list and just tic things off as I deal with them so I can start to make sense out of overwhelming situations. Get your healthy kids working in the kitchen. Can you challenge the decision on your refinancing or what are the other options? I hope your garage will take responsiblity for what they did.

Debbie M.......if you are really tired then go and lie down for a while. If you are just overwhelmed then pick one thing to work on and just start to wade your way through. Focus on one thing and forget the rest.
Bronwyn
posted 13-Apr-2009 2:19pm

Back to tracking calories. Connie Mormons are some of the nicest people I know and yes they dance!
Connie
posted 13-Apr-2009 2:41pm

OMG Debbie...when it rains it pours. Here is something I try and remind myself when things get crazy..."better to have all the crud over at one time, than doled out in increments!" That what I tell myself anyway. Definitely take a nap. Why not? Your whole outlook will improve, as will your ability to take this in and deal with it. I am exactly the same way. Sorry about the refinancing. It's not the be all and end all, so you just rock on with yourself!

I get to wash stinky river clothes all day! Husband made it home last night with bags of it. But the house is empty today and I am thankful! I get so much more done with no one around. I'll bet we are all like that.

I have never heard anything bad about Mormons either. We are Methodist and my children attended a Christian school, predominately Baptist. It's their friends that are saying "OMG!"
Debbie M
posted 13-Apr-2009 3:32pm

Thanks for the support guys. I did lay down for a while and am feeling a little better. Off to conquer my life!!!!
K10
posted 13-Apr-2009 3:43pm

Connie: Some of the nicest people I know are Mormon, but they definitely have many theological differences than Evangelical Christians. On the surface it may not seem that way and Mormon's even use similar language, but there are differences. I am a Baptist.

Debbie M: So sorry about all the mishaps today. I hope you don't get stuck with the bill (or should I say dollar bills).

Hi Bronwyn, I hope you had a good weekend. Thanks for the recipe too.
Hilda
posted 13-Apr-2009 4:23pm

I think the girl being a Mormom is a deal breaker. I am Baptist and have always been taught they are a cult. I have one friend that joined the church many years ago and when she got into it she realized she and her husband had made a huge mistake and got out. She had been raised Lutheran and said she knows she was warned by the Holy Spirit that something was not quite right with the Mormon church. They are usually some of the nicest family oriented people you will meet. The question he needs to ask is: What do you believe you have to do to get to heaven? and What do you believe heaven is like?
Debbie M
posted 13-Apr-2009 6:09pm

Mormons are not Christian.
Debbie M
posted 13-Apr-2009 6:17pm

Great news here at the end of the day. Our garage towed the van and found a clip to be gone. They claimed no responsibility for it but replaced it and filled the transmission fluid all without charge.
I know they definately were responsible so I am satisfied. Thank goodness.
All the kids seem to be doing good enough to go to school tomorrow even though they don't want to go.
I am still lacking in my enthusiasm for this program. But I did terrific in mNOT chowing down on Easter candy. I broke down and got candy for the kids but in a very modest amount. It is a little victory for me. Things are looking up.
Tomorrow is another day. And oh, The kitchen isa standing tall again.
Connie
posted 13-Apr-2009 6:26pm

I have been surfing around the web looking for Mormon beliefs. The answers I have read vary greatly. I can't imagine some of them being believed. I wonder if this could be explained by different groups believing different things. I know I have conflicts with some beliefs in main stream churches, I really feel it is my own personal decisions as they do not contradict with fundamental scripture.

But I have no idea where vet girl is on Mormon issues. I guess time will tell. My son is not as taken with her as she is with him. He is not very religious, although he has a strong background. In the back of my mind I've always thought he would return to the church when he settles down. What a monkey wrench this is!
Debbie M
posted 13-Apr-2009 6:49pm

Don't worry about it Connie. Kids come back to what they know to be the truth sooner or later and with boys, usually later. The big difference is usually the addition of wife and especially kids. He will come around. All you can do is be a good example and give him over to Jesus. Fear and Faith cannot live in the same body. This I know.
Debbie M
posted 14-Apr-2009 10:19am

Good morning,
Where is everyone today? My wisdom tooth is hurting today. I already have an appointment for a cleaning on Thursday but I'm afraid I might have an infection. I may call.
I had steamed asparagus last night with supper. Everytime I have it I wonder why I don't have it more often.
2girls
posted 14-Apr-2009 10:41am

Good Morning, I ate way too much on Easter but back on the program.

Debbie, that sounds like a typical day here, one thing goes wrong the rest follows. My mom teases me that if we didn't have bad luck we wouldn't have any luck at all. Glad to hear things are turning around for you!

I wish I had something inspiring to say about religion, but I have trouble understanding all the various beliefs out there. I am a Christian, I know the basics, but that's about it. I beat myself up sometimes because I know I should be practicing more aggressively.

I check out the book Living the GI diet by Rick Gallop and I'm really wondering if this kind of diet is right for me, I have Atkins so drilled into my brain and all Rick Gallop talks about is non fat this and that. I really like my fat (cheese, butter, mayo), it keeps me satisfied and I don't eat as much. I'm not scrounging around for food all the time. I ordered the book Glycemic Load by Rob Thompson (I think that's his name) is that basically the same thing low fat semi low car? Ho hum, I don't know, I feel like a cow today so I don't know, I keep second guessing what is right for me. And this time I am going to copy what I typed since it deleted last time. :)
Debbie M
posted 14-Apr-2009 10:47am

Tooth coming out tomorrow at 10:00. $252.00 Oh boy, there goes more money. Maybe this will help me eat less for a few days.

Connie, What can I expect to feel? The tooth is half way erupted. The receptionist said it is a matter of numbing and pulling. Probably no stiches even. You just took care of your daughter a while back after her extractions, didn't you? They said it would take about an hour. What on Earth could take an hour? The numbing? Oh boy.
Hilda
posted 14-Apr-2009 11:04am

We all need to share our faith more. I believe we are truly in the End Times and Jesus can come back at any moment. Prophecy has been fulfilled in all this economic summit of all the nations in Europe coming together. I was not taught about the Rapture until I was an adult. I had been raised in the Baptist church as a child and do not remember hearing the word until I was going to a non-denominational church in California in the early 70's. We are seeing more signs every day. Floods, tornados, earthquakes, and the "World" just doesn't get it. Our country just keeps on allowing abortion, gay marriage, etc. The media just reports that there are fewer Christians out there that believe what the Bible says.
Debbie M
posted 14-Apr-2009 11:22am

You are right Hilda.
I have a friend living with cronic pain. Wrote a note to friends and family that I would like to share with you. It hits the nail on the head.
It is long but I hope you will read it.


The musings of a sufferer
I have oodles of fun stuff to tell you -- but not tonight. Instead, I just have to say something that is very hard to say and may be very hard to hear. All of you, except for the random blog-surfer, know that I have been dealing with the chronic pain of fibromyalgia for years. Recently, God has seen fit to add cervical pain (arthritis and a bulging disc) also. I very much appreciate all your prayers and encouragement over these difficult months. (I am over the bout of exhaustion that hit after a whirlwind holiday and wedding season. Yea!)

I do not like pain. Who does? It has been very, very difficult for me to accept that, unless God intervenes, I will be in pain every day for the rest of my life. Most of my days are "tolerable" with Vicodin. I never wanted to start with pain meds, but without it, I can't function. Even with it, I have to scale back my activities. That frustrates me. But my comfort in all of this is that God is in control, that His love for me is boundless and that all of my circumstances are for my good and for His glory!

But on the really bad days, nothing helps. On those days, which are only a few times a month, I am tempted to despair. And my life looms in front of me as an unending sea of pain. At those times, I feel like a caged dog surrounded by horrible, hate-filled little boys who sadistically stab at me with sticks. I run round and round in my "cage", trying to find some escape or some refuge. But there is none. The pain continues with no help in sight. I long to be pain-free again. Sometimes I forget what it felt like.

I have thought long and hard about it all. It has made heaven all the more real and wonderful to me. I wonder how glorious that first moment will feel. I believe that I will be amazed at how great I will feel, having gotten used to living in pain. I think that my first thought will be, "I didn't realize how much pain I had every day!" But then I think that perhaps I won't give my physical body any thought at all, that I will be too enraptured by the Love, the Joy and the Glory of my Savior and King!

The really bad days have also led me to ponder the reality of he - an eternity of unbelievably bad days that defy my imagination here. Real physical pain that never eases, never abates. There will be no such thing there as finally having paid for all your sins and getting out. The torment of he is not based on how good or bad we've been here. God's requirement for heaven is, always has been and always will be perfection! Justice demands that an offense against the infinitely holy, infinitely good, infinitely righteous God deserves infinite punishment. We can never work that off in this life or the next. That's why we need a Savior - we have all earned he**! We can never save ourselves! Only by believing that Jesus, God the Son, lived a perfectly holy life, pleasing in every way to God the Father, and died in your place, can you get into heaven. The Bible speaks of it in accounting terms. All of Christ's perfection can be transferred to your account. And in return, He has taken on all of your sins. And paid for them by dying on the cross. God will exchange your "account" for Jesus', stamping "Paid in Full" on your bill! You can appear at heaven's gate having been declared perfect in God's sight!

In the midst of great pain, on those bad days of mine, I think constantly on this. My heart aches almost more than my body. I actually feel it, my chest is so heavy. I know that my bad day will end. I know that there will come a day when I will be set free from this body of pain; this body of sin. I hate, hate, hate that tormented, caged dog feeling. I hate knowing that I will never be free of my pain in this life. But, oh so much more, I hate thinking that anyone I know would ever have to face an eternity of inescapable pain! I just can't tell you how much that thought hurts!!

Hard words, I know. How much I would love to pretend it was otherwise. But that would not change who God is or what His Word tells us is Reality. I am not thinking of anyone in particular ~ only God Himself, and yourself, can know your heart, can know if that "account exchange" has taken place. His love for His children is overflowing! All we have to do is ask!

I did not want to talk about this; especially not on this blog. I have said from the beginning that this would not be filled with my thoughts and musings, only with the antics of the children. But all of this was becoming too much to keep inside any longer. And Easter brought it all out! The joy of Christ's death for me, for my children and for my husband, the glory of His victory over death in His rising from the dead actually hurt as they were juxtaposed with knowing that most of humanity will not choose to accept His free gift; will end up enduring endless pain far beyond mine, rather than humbly and gratefully "trade accounts" with Him. I know that that might include some of you. And so I weep and I beg you now to think long and hard about this, pray about it and maybe even read the book of John or Romans. And talk to me, to any of us, if we can help! We pray weekly for all of you; we'd love to pray with you, if you'd like.

If anyone has actually read this all the way through -- thank you!!!! Oh how I pray for God's greatest blessing on you. And I know that anyone of you might be upset by this. I hope not. That was not my intent at all. But I could not live with this burden any longer. There may be someone who needed to read this. I love you.


K10
posted 14-Apr-2009 3:38pm

Debbie M: I will sum that up with a very loud AMEN!!!!!!!! I am sorry your friend is in so much pain here on Earth. Her faith is so strong, that she looks forward to the pain-free eternity we will all have, if Christ is our Savior. That truly is amazing. Thanks for sharing her letter.
Connie
posted 14-Apr-2009 3:39pm

Hi all. I've been going full force today. I made a hair appt for 12:30. I wanted to get tons done before that time, so I hit the ground running. I was just about finished at 11:30 when my hairdresser called to reschedule. Her little girl is sick. Not a problem. So I just added more things to my list and I am feeling very organized right now!

Debbie, are you just having one wisdom tooth removed? My daughter was fine. The pain meds kept her comfortable. If you take strong meds, you will need help. Who's driving you to the office? My daughter perked up a lot after 24 hrs, the anesthesia wore off. Remember...no straws! Liquids first day, super soft foods after that.

I've decided to butt out if my sons decisions. I discussed Mormon's with my husband, he has studied other religions to a certain point. I think we all have a right to believe what we feel lead to and then we get to take responsibility for it. Vet girl is very nice and until she does something to warrant a negative opinion from me, I cannot in good conscience stand against her.

What to do with the rest of my day? It is cold here, I guess I'll just curl up and read!
K10
posted 14-Apr-2009 4:54pm

Connie: Wow you sure have been productive. You deserve to curl up with a good book and read.
Debbie M
posted 14-Apr-2009 5:23pm

Yes Connie, Just one tooth. And it is Half erupted. I thought I would drive myself home. My anethesia will just be local. Were your daughters impacted? This is not a surgery, its an extraction. Maybe that is a big difference or maybe I have no idea what I'm getting myself into. heh.

I know what you mean about vet girl. My sister-in-law is not sure she wants to commit to CHristianity as she sai9d she would then have to denounce all other religions. She is confused but studying. We still love her and are hopeful that the Lord will call on her.

Too bad about your hair. Rest now!
I will contact you tomorrow after I get home and let you know how it went with my tooth. Silly to have only one wisdom tooth erupted when you are 44 years old. heh There is simply not enough room in my mouth for it and its causing me pain. I hope the others behave and stay down there.

Thanks K10 for the comment about my friend. She is a wonderful woman. She is the mother of 8 and homeschools the 7 that are left at home. I am praying that she be delivered from this pain eventually.

Bronwyn, Where are you today?
Hilda
posted 14-Apr-2009 5:38pm

Debbie M- Wow what a letter. If all Christians were so burdened with the thought of their friends not going to heaven, we would be consumed with telling them how they could be saved.
Angie
posted 14-Apr-2009 6:19pm

Debbie M that was a beautiful letter. How wonderful to have that kind of faith when you are in that kind of pain. Even in her pain she is using it to God's glory.

I did pretty good Yesterday and today. It seems if I eat anything to do with grains except the Ezekial bread it bloats me. I ate some cheetos and corn chips over the weekend and my stomach was so bloated. The Ezekial bread does not effect me that way. I think if I could stay totally on fruit, vegetables and meat and stay away from salty snacks I would be fine but I sure do love salty snacks.

Debbie I hope your dentist appointment is quick and pain free.
K10
posted 14-Apr-2009 7:00pm

I bought some fruit juice that has fruit juice concentrates in it. Peach, orange and mango fruit juice concentrates I believe. Can I have that? It doesn't have sugar added.

Connie
posted 14-Apr-2009 8:39pm

You can have it K10. If the word "sugar" is not in the ingredients list, your good to go.

After I quit moving around, hunger set in and I think I probably overate. Oh well! Tomorrow I'll try and do better. I am so ready for warm weather, I have such an urge to be outside. I did takes the dog out twice today to catch ball/stick. They get all the running in but I did bend over about a zillion times. Maybe that's good for my waist.

Bronwyn, where are you fearless leader? How are you wearing your hair to the wedding? I'm really debating having more cut of tomorrow than I had planned. I need to reign myself in! For sure, just 1 1/2 inches off the bottom. I'm going to scour the hairstyle magazines I bought again tonight. Saturday I put mayonnaise on it. Along with my VO5. My sister was worried it would be greasy, but it isn't. I left in on for 10 minutes. The things we do for beauty!

Debbie, I was really moved by your friends letter. It made me very sad. My mom had a terrible experience with her back and ended up in a wheelchair on a morphine drip for over 2 years. The pain she went through changed her. Forever. After surgery she is better, but not the same person. I hope your friend can keep up her faith and her positive attitude. And I hope she will one day get some relief.
kathy
posted 14-Apr-2009 9:42pm

Debbie M. I have had the same problem - one infected wisdom tooth!! I am having that wisdom tooth plus two other wisdom out on Friday!! The infected tooth is mostly impacted. The dental surgeon said it would take about 45 minutes for the three teeth. My son had 4 impacted wisdom teeth out a few years ago and said it was fun!? because you wake from the general anesthesia and it's all done before you knew anything happened.

Good Luck on Thursday!!
kathy
posted 14-Apr-2009 9:48pm

Debbie M. Whoops, I mean good Luck on Wednesday. Tell me what liquids you have that day. Mine will be surgery. I can't have anything to eat or drink after 11:00 PM the night before. Surgery is Friday.
K10
posted 15-Apr-2009 1:45am

I will not tell you guys about my wisdom teeth experience when I was 19. I had three impacted teeth, I actually only made 3. I am glad I had it done when I did. My husband had his 4 removed last year, but they weren't impacted. He did fine. Boy, was he funny when he was coming off the anesthesia. He was a happy "drunk".

Connie: Thanks for answering my juice question. I am glad I can have it, the juice sounds yummy. I am glad I cut my hair, it is much more flattering. We had the last of our 13 week weight loss classes tonight. It was interesting to see my before picture. My double chin is definitely smaller and since my hair has been cut, I look better. Not so frumpy.

I bought almost all NFNS for our camping trip, at least for me and my hubby. I did buy the kids whole wheat flour white bread and some wheat hamburger buns for them as well. I bought some no sugar added ice cream and some dried fruit. The cereal I bought them has some added sugar, but it isn't the typical sugar cereal I would have normally bought. I also bought some pancake mix for them.

I hope to ride my bike a lot and do some walking as well. I will have computer access so I will get my daily fix.

Take care everyone.


Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 2:45am

The weather is going to be lovely here this weekend. I would love love love to take a quick trip camping but I doubt I will be feeling like going. I hope you have a super trip K10.

My cheek is swollen this morning and I can't close my teeth. I think its infected. WIll they still pull it or put me on antibiotic first? I am in so much pain I took one of my left over vicoden from last years surgery. Maybe I'll get some more sleep now. I wonder if they will give me the laughing gas tomorrow if they go ahead with the extraction.

Connie, I wanted to tell you that our refinance still may go thru. For some reason we wernt looking at a traditional loan but some special offer and we missed the credit score required by 5 points. With this traditional loan apparently the requirments are a bit more relaxed. We are looking into this one now.

Bronwyn, You alright? When is the wedding again?

Thanks for taking my friends letter so well you guys. I was not sure if I should post it but I thought it was amazing and since we were on the subject of religion I took a chance. I don't want to get "preachy" as this is a weight loss forum. But I did think it was worth the risk.

Going back to bed, its 2:45 a.m. here.
Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 8:16am

I'm in real pain this morning. I can't close my mouth all the way due to swelling and I can't open it very far either. I'm in a pickle.
Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 8:37am

201.5 this morn. Lets see id I lose any weight on the molar-out diet.
kathy
posted 15-Apr-2009 8:53am

Debbie M, Keep us posted. You might have to get rid of the infection first.
2girls
posted 15-Apr-2009 8:55am

Good Morning

Angie, I'm with you on the whole just eating fruits, veggies, and meat. I think I'd be doing better and would have a less bloaty feeling, do you feel like that when you eat potatoes too or just salty stuff?
2girls
posted 15-Apr-2009 9:39am

K10, I believe it was you that said you know someone that is on a low carb diet and has added fruit and is still losing. Do you know how much fruit they allow themselves?
Connie
posted 15-Apr-2009 10:35am

Morning. Time to pay bills. Yuck!

Today I am committed to eating well. That means a trip to the grocery, something I have been doing a lot lately. You know, a couple of things at a time. Not a good way to do it. Hopefully later I can make a menu and a grocery list. NFNS is the best thing that has happened to me in my dieting history. Anyone seen the Valerie Bertenelli bikini commercial. Wow, she is buff, especially her abs. Why, oh why, can't I motivate myself to work out? Maybe someday!

Hair cutting day. K10, I hope I am as happy as you are with your hair. I've been watching "what not to wear" a lot lately and the haircuts make such a huge difference. As long as I can pull it back into a ponytail I'll be happy. I think!

Debbie, I hope you can get that tooth out today. It will feel so much better when it's out. Can't wait to hear from you.

Bronwyn, how are you? We miss you.
Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 10:48am

I'm back and it went just fine. Novacaine, pull, done. We will see how it feels later when the numbness wears off. He didn't hink it was infected at all. It was just a lot of pain from the tooth! Thanks for the well wishes. Gonna nap now.
K10
posted 15-Apr-2009 11:09am

Debbie M: I am glad you were able to get the tooth out. I hope you have a quick recovery.

2girls: I will have to email my friend and find out how much fruit she is allowing. It may be a few days though.

Connie: I can still pull my hair back into a ponytail. I can't wait to hear how your cut turns out.

Bronwyn: Are you ok? We miss you.
Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 11:22am

Oh man, my mouth is REALLY huring now.
Connie
posted 15-Apr-2009 11:27am

Debbie, what are you supposed to do for the pain?
Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 11:49am

They told me just take whatever I usually take for head ache. I took two vicoden at 8:45 this morning. And I just took two more 10 minutes ago. I thought I could take them every 4 hours but when I looked again it said 6 hours. oops. They are not helping. I wish I could sleep. I am in considerable pain. I think some of which has nothing to do with the extraction. Post nasal drip and sore throat on the same side. I'm a mess. I didn't expect this. Also my cheek is swollen and my glands in my neck on the same side are swollen.
Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 11:51am

I'm feeling a little panicky. I might call my family Doc to get me on an antibiotic. But he will want to see me. I told the Dentist about my pain but I guess I didn't make it quite clear as to what I thought was going on.

Anybody catch the name of the woman who wow'd everyone on American Idol last night?
2girls
posted 15-Apr-2009 12:05pm

Debbie, are you icing it to bring the swelling down?
Connie
posted 15-Apr-2009 12:11pm

Debbie, I'm not sure what to say about your pain. When my husband had his teeth removed he was in terrible pain, even when taking pain pills. The dentist said there was nothing that would remove the pain completely, but husband was very infected. You might not need an antibiotic. The tissue surrounding your extraction is swollen and irritated. If that was caused by the tooth coming in and not an infection, as your dentist says, an antibiotic will not do anything. If the vicoden is not easing it, you will probably just have to wait it out. It will start calming down in several hours. Maybe you could wait awhile and if it isn't better, go to the doctor. Hang in there. My husband took pain pills and ibuprofen. Call your pharmacist and see what OTC med you can take with the vicoden. Make sure the pharmacist knows what you have already taken.
Connie
posted 15-Apr-2009 12:13pm

Good point 2girls. Husband and daughter used ice packs.
K10
posted 15-Apr-2009 12:25pm

Debbie M: I think my hubby used ice too. Did they give you any instructions at all?
Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 12:29pm

I got out the ice pack and am using it now. Boy do I feel the vicoden working. I hope it dosn't make me sick as I took twice the dose I was suppose to. I think I have caught the sickness my children have. I'm sure its a virus and as you said Connie antibiotics won't work for that. Everytime I swallow I actually cringe from the pain in my throat. I think I'd be in a lot better shape if this illness thing had not hit me this AM. I don't mean to complain so much but I just can't believe how miserable I am. Maybe after a while (couple hours) I can take some Ibuprofen.
Thanks everyone for you advise and concern. Hopefully I can keep myself from getting a dry socket. I know no spitting or straws, etc.

BY THE WAY, look up Susan Boyle on You Tube. She really was amazing.
Connie
posted 15-Apr-2009 12:33pm

Oh honey! I am the queen of moan and groan when I am under the weather! You just complain all you want. We don't mind one bit. I saw Susan Boyle on my home page a couple of days ago. Loved it! I'm worried about you taking twice the dose. Keep posting until it wears off, ok? If you don't we will start to worry.
Bronwyn
posted 15-Apr-2009 2:42pm

I am so sorry that you are having such a rough time Debbie. Dental complications are so miserable. I had an abscess once and it was the worst pain I have ever experienced.....the kind of pain that you can't focus on anything else. This to will pass but just not quickly enough.

Listen I don't want any one to feel uncomfortable about this but vet girl and I have a lot in common....as we are both Mormons. However we are also both Christians and we most certainly do NOT belong to a cult. I am not here to try and change any ones mind on those statements, and I don't want you to feel uncomfortable about your statements. I most certainly have heard all of those things before. I love my associations with people who have so many similar feelings about morals and values as I do. I do know that some of our theology may be different but our belief in the atoning sacrifice of our saviour is the key point for all of us. I truly believe that Christians beliefs are the only beliefs that it seems politically correct to attack and make fun of. The truth is for Mormons it is probably even worse because they are ridiculed and maligned even by other Christians. Anyways I have never felt I couldn't be friends with any of God's children (Christian or not) and I believe he loves each and everyone of us on this earth.....no matter what their theological beliefs are. I see no reason we why we can't continue to be friends as well and I love all the support and ideas I get from all of you on topics far ranging from NFNS to child rearing.

Keep the faith Debbie M........the pain will go away even though at the moment it is so overwhelming.
kathy
posted 15-Apr-2009 3:01pm

Glad you spoke up Bronwyn. My husband's brother is a Mormon. He's outstanding in every aspect of Life.

kathy
posted 15-Apr-2009 3:10pm

Debbie M. Re: American Idol. It was Allison who wow'd everybody.
Connie
posted 15-Apr-2009 3:21pm

Bronwyn, I'm glad you spoke up. I thought maybe there was some "tension" on our board, even though it was subtle. My husband would not join our church until he read the book of discipline. It was important to him that we not join a church that puts down other religions. Personally, I have never been able to say "I'm going to heaven, you are not." Great crimes against humanity have been committed in the name of "God." To each his own. It is the fundamentals that matter, the rest is just interpretation. Ok, that's my two cents. Big hugs and kisses and much love to all of you.

Time to check in Debbie.

My hair is much shorter than I thought it would be! Looks like I'm growing it out again. I think I like it, I need to wash it and fiddle with it myself before I can know for sure.

Time to get something done around here. So far my eating has been good.
Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 4:37pm

I'm here. I'm sure all my pain is from the sore throat and sinus thing I got from my kids. although I may have an infection in my cheek from biting it. It's actually a little better. My husband came home early and brought full sugar popcycles. I didn't eat it as swollowing is so hard. He meant well but sabotage again.

Bronwyn, I am so sorry to hurt your feelings. Please accept my apology.

I haven't eaten anything today but a glass of milk.
Hugs back
Deb
Bronwyn
posted 15-Apr-2009 4:41pm

Listen Connie the only reason I hesitated in stating anything was I didn't want anyone to feel bad or uncomfortable. I was not offended personally and it isn't new to me.

I am getting my hair cut next Friday.....I have no idea what to do with it. It is pretty long. Just before my oldest sons wedding (5 years ago) I got my hair cut really short......like shorter than I ever have my hair. I really didn't like it so I think I will avoid doing that this time. I have gone to the same hair dresser for years and I really like her. She will do anything I ask her to do. Occassionally when I go some place else I end up with a hair cut I had not asked for. Actually though I never do anything to different as my hair doesn't do any thing to different no matter what the length.

Anyways I only have 2 1/2 weeks and I have given up being any thinner but I need to make sure I don't just go off program and end up heavier ;-( My friend invited me to a seminar I may go to I am not sure......I don't know if the authour is going to be there or not but I believe his name is Mike Anderson and he does seminars based on his books.... "Eat" and "RAVe". I know very little about it but I think it may be vegan style of eating which my family would rebel against.

Hope you are all having a good NFNS day. I actually just hope Debbie M. is in less pain.,,,,,that is such misery.
Bronwyn
posted 15-Apr-2009 4:45pm

Debbie we must have posted at the same time......listen don't worry about it at all......we are good really!
Debbie M
posted 15-Apr-2009 5:16pm

I am feeling so much better. Wow, I was unprepared for the pain when the novecain wore off. I just took some Ibuprofen. I took my tooth home for the kids to see. They said it was gross. Do you think the tooth fairy will come for me?
Connie
posted 15-Apr-2009 5:18pm

Good to her from you Debbie and Bronwyn. Debbie, those darn husbands! It reminds me of Valentines Day and my husband brought home Godiva! They mean well.

I'm glad we have cleared all that up since vet girl is still hanging in there with son. Tonight they will be seeing each other. I always stumble when talking religion and politics...

Bronwyn, shoulder length hair is always a safe bet. Get a couple of magazines and see if anything grabs your eye. I will like my hair better when it grows out a bit. And maybe she thinned it out too much on the bottom. I keep turning on my curling iron and messing with it.

I have zero energy today. Some days are just like that I guess.

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