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No Flour, No Sugar Diet
SummaryDr. Gott's No Flour, No Sugar Diet presents a simple, straight-forward way to lose weight and keep it off for a lifetime. All you need do is eliminate flour and sugar from your diet. DescriptionThis diet book contains common-sense techniques on how to eat better and achieve a healthier lifestyle. It gets you to focus on foods that are nutritional and satisfying. Thus, you can both lose weight and become healthier in the process. You can eat brown rice, lean meats, low-fat dairy products, fruits and vegetables. But, you have to stop eating foods like bagels, pasta, bread, cereal, white rice, cookies, sweets, and cakes. Many excellent recipes are included in the book with have no flour and sugar, yet taste delicious. The approach is to keep things simple by just eliminating flour and sugar, the two primary food ingredients that are causing the obesity problem in America. Our culture has become addicted to sweets. This book helps you break the addiction and get on track for eating healthier while losing that extra weight. HistoryDr. Gott is a medical columnist published in over 350 newspaper daily. He is a practicing physician with a general practice in Connecticut. He's also the director of medicine at Hotchkiss School (a prep-school). CriticismGiving up bread and sweets may simply be too hard for some people. Sugar is in a great majority of products sold today. While the diet sounds simple, implementing it and sticking to it is quiet a challenge. Tags: glycemic-index low-calorie low-carb low-fat no-sweets simple Related Diets: Cambridge Diet Cabbage Soup Diet No-S Diet South Beach Diet Fat Smash Diet |
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| Debbie M. | posted 17-Jun-2009 8:34pm I asked the snarkey question before I even knew what saturnine meant. heh, I had to look it up. A new one for me. |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Jun-2009 8:43pm I do promise to stop....wasting way too much time today but, my real problem is that I am glibido. |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Jun-2009 8:54pm All talk no action eh? |
| Bronwyn | posted 17-Jun-2009 9:11pm You got it Miss Snarkey pants!!!!!  Of course I didn't need to spell it out as the proof is in the pudding of my accomplishments today  Rainy day and dejunking....until I got sidetracked on the very first box I opened. It is a long story and I shall not dwell on the details of my lack of accomplishments. |
| Connie | posted 17-Jun-2009 9:54pm That was very interesting...the misspelled words that I had no problem reading! You guys are very witty today too. I ate terrible today, although NFNS, as well. Last I checked I was up a pound. Whatever! My house is totally a wreck, except kitchen and dinning room. But I think I can get it all done tomorrow and pack and do toe nails. Actually, daughter is going to do the toe nails since I can't see so great. Great night all. |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Jun-2009 10:05pm Connie, Why can't you see so well? Far sighted I assume? Do you wear contacts? I use to wear glasses but I had lasic vision correction years ago. Contacts drove me nutty. Now I only need reading glasses if the print is rather small. My fishies are swimming around happily in their new home. It wasn't anytime at all before my cat tiger was perched on the side watching them. I'll post a pic on our other site, if I can. Good night |
| Debbie M. | posted 17-Jun-2009 10:24pm I am so goofy on the computer. I just fly by the seat of my pants. I really have no idea what I am doing. I am totaly self taught and have a lot to learn. That being said I posted a picture of my planter but it's on the map. Heh, of all places. I have no idea how that happened. If you want to see it, that where it is. Can't see the fish but you can see the fountain I put in it. My swing sits to the left of it. I'm really enjoying this new feature on the front porch. |
| Debster | posted 17-Jun-2009 11:00pm You are all pretty funny today.... a nice distraction from my crummy situation here -or would that be crumby? Connie, how are your legs doing? Are you in full recovery now? My neice seems to be feeling a "little" better today. She has been constantly sleeping. Debbie, you are funny with your fish....again....how do we check or post on this other site? good night all! |
| Debbie M. | posted 18-Jun-2009 10:41am I'm happy to entertain you with my fish stories. I have three of them. They are Moe, Larry and Curly Goldfish. Moe is a bright goldfish with a white stomach. Larry is a light gold color and Curly is a bright gold. Their cousin lives in our house upstairs in my daughters bedroom. He has been on a diet his entire life as obesity swims in his family. He is very lonely I susspect because his brother and sister passed away earlier this year. I just weighed myself. A new low for me!!!!! 186.5 and I just got my new cycle today. Totally shocking. I should be up a couple pounds from that. WOW I am just tickled pink. For those who are struggling, I bet you just can't stand me right now. But I was in your position just a couple months ago. You will do it. Something just clicks and it starts to happen. Do not get frustrated, just keep trying. Each attempt is one step closer to success. |
| K10 | posted 18-Jun-2009 10:48am Debbie: Congrats on your new low. You are losing and I am gaining. I really need to get motivated. It clicked in me before, I know it will click again. I like your fish "tank", what is it actually made from? My girls are off having fun today. They are at the happiest place on earth for the first time by themselves. Kind of a farewell to the area. Oldest has a birthday next month and she really wanted a beach party/going away party, but I knew it would be too busy to do that, so I thought this would be a good substitute and would cost about the same amount. You should have seen their smiles. I hope they are going to make great memories together. |
| Debster | posted 18-Jun-2009 10:48am Where is everyone this morning? It's 10:34 AM here on the East Coast and I wanted to check in and smile at all of your latest comments but you all must be still sleeping! WAKE UP!!!!!!! I, on the other hand have been up most of the night with my very sick neice who either passed out on the bathroom floor or fell asleep there (she doesn't remember). Come to find out she has not been eating or drinking what she told me that she had been eating and drinking and she has become dehydrated. I was arguing with her at 3AM trying to force her to drink and eat a soft-scrambled egg and a piece of soft bread. She finally listened to me and was re-oriented about 1 hour later... and then she slept. I woke her up and I made her eat a little something and drink 4 more ounces of water before I left for work at 7AM. I now have her on a regiment of 1 Ibubrofen every 4 hours, fluid, and some food. I don't want her to become dehydrated again. I probably would have taken the day off but we are short-staffed due to vacations. WAKE UP OUT THERE! I miss you guys. I am going to need a vacation after all of this....sleazy attorneys, lawsuits, and mononucleosis.....what a revolting development this is! |
| Connie | posted 18-Jun-2009 11:22am Morning. Good morning Debster...I'm up! Actually I've been up for awhile. Dehydration is very serious, as you know. For a while you might want to give her some juice from canned fruit (the sugar added kind). I had a friend once who underwent chemo and she had no appetite. That's what her docs told her to do. Just an idea. I would be have been freaking if I had found her like you did! I have a million things to do today, I don't want to get out of bed! Debbie, I am so happy for you!!!!!!! You just brag and celebrate all you want. You deserve it. I am going to go look at your fish pictures next! I can't remember the other web site address. Can you tell Debster how to get there, without getting kicked off your computer of course. K10, you have so much going on right now. It is no wonder your not losing. It will happen. This is not wasted time, you are always learning, and when the time is right, you'll lose. When I committed to NFNS I had to put everything else on the back burner until I had this mastered. When you are settled....look out! Even small changes that you make now will help you in the long run. Well, I better get started. Later ladies. |
| K10 | posted 18-Jun-2009 2:25pm Connie: Thanks for your support. I am not falling off the wagon per se, but I am eating too much of NFNS foods. I did add powdered sugar to something I ate last night. |
| Debbie M. | posted 18-Jun-2009 2:54pm I bought a "lettuce" for my fish tank. It looks like a floating green flower. There is no pot and no dirt. It just sits on the top with the roots hanging down. The vessel is made of concrete. |
| Angie | posted 18-Jun-2009 4:25pm Is anyone on line? I am still in Ga. and wondered what the address was to the other site. If you could just give me part of it so you don't get cut off. I can't remember it. |
| Angie | posted 18-Jun-2009 4:31pm Don't bother I am not going to be able to get on the computer anymore. I was just going to show my Mother my extended family. I am headed home in the morning. Have a good night everyone. |
| Karin in Orlando | posted 18-Jun-2009 5:01pm I just started NSNF on May 7th and have been trying to catch up on this message board for the past week or so but the messages I was reading were all from 2008 so I figured I'd skip forward and say Hello. Nice to see Bronwyn is still here, I'll be back tomorrow to catch up more and share with you guys. See ya! Karin in Orlando |
| K10 | posted 18-Jun-2009 6:35pm Welcome Karin. We are happy to have you join us. How are you doing since you started on NFNS? We are looking forward to hearing about you tomorrow. Even though I am at a stand still, I am so grateful for this way of eating. |
| Debbie M. | posted 18-Jun-2009 6:37pm Welcome Karin! Angie and Debster, the link for the other site www.nfnsfamily.ning.com |
| Bronwyn | posted 18-Jun-2009 7:10pm Debbie you posted a link and didn't get cut off....woohoo!!!! Actually the woohoo also goes for your weight loss, way to go!!! K10...where is the happiest place on earth.....surely I should go there???? K10 I have a lot of stress as well....we will work it out and then, these girls had better buckle their seat belts cause the weight is going to be flying off of us, eh!!!! Their heads will be spinning as they see those numbers we are posting just plummeting down the scale. Okay there is a little white van parked outside and a couple of guys with a strait jacket with my name on it K10....I know we can make this happen again and we will.Angie you stayed longer than planned in Georgia didn't you???? Welcome Karin. In the summer in Orlando you must just sweat off the weight, eh!!! How much do you want to lose? Connie aren't you leaving tomorrow or was it today???? Is there anymore bruising on the legs.....or are you now sporting some really not legs that you want to show off???? Debbie.....you are a little young to be naming your fish after the 3 stooges.....cute |
| Bronwyn | posted 18-Jun-2009 7:14pm correction Connie....."hot" legs!!!! |
| Debbie M. | posted 18-Jun-2009 8:19pm Thanks for the congrats girls. It means a lot to me. I've been crabby today. We had a lot of junk food around the house. Things I usually can't stay away from. I've resisted but I wanted them. The cookies really called my name. I smelled one and that was enough, then it went into the trash. I felt like triplet mom. It didn't help that the cupboards were pretty bare of things that I could have. Hubby is out shopping with the list I made. He took two of the girls with him. THe kids have been so demanding today, or maybe its just my perception because I've been irritable. My neighbor that gave me the vessel/planter just came to look at it. There was a little strife with her husband when he realized it was gone. She didn't ask him if it was ok to get rid of it. She said it was totally fine. I offered it back knowing she wouldn't take it and she said no he didn't really want it back. She told her husband if he wanted it he should have done something with it. In the last 6 years it just sat there. What could I say but thank you? Connie, I wanna know about those hot legs! Are you to the point yet that you've decided it was worth it? Bronwyn you sound really chipper today. Debster, How is your niece today? We need to cast all our cares on HIM because he cares for us!v |
| Anonymous | posted 19-Jun-2009 12:42am Hi Everyone, It's very late and I am just getting to bed. My niece is much better than last night but still pretty sick. I think that this is going to be a long road. I have her on a fluid intake schedule, ibuprofen schedule, and an eating schedule. She is sticking to it and it has made a vast improvement. Debbie, men are like that...they never want something until it is gone, and sometimes they have an uncanny way of knowing that something disappeared. I never get rid of my husband's old clothes. I put them in bags in another room so that if he asks or accuses....I can retrieve them. I learned that the hard way. Bronwyn....you did sound really chipper today, as Debbie mentioned....not at all "snarkey" Welcome Karin and Connie, how are those legs? K10...what happened with the bank thing and the house showing? Good night all.....Good night Hilda....anyone know where she is? |
| Debster | posted 19-Jun-2009 12:43am That anonymous was me.... |
| Hilda | posted 19-Jun-2009 1:14am I am busy working still. I have three homes under contract, doing inspections, letting in appraisers, negotiating repairs, trying to negotiate on a foreclosure with Freddie Mac that finally fell through. Trying also to plan what I want to do for my 60th birthday coming up in August. My daughters want to take me to Chicago. I'm not at all sure of what I want to do. I am not wanting to fly anywhere. We can drive to Chicago. If you are making guacamole using only one avocado, how much cilantro would you use? |
| Anonymous | posted 19-Jun-2009 2:43am Bronwyn: The happiest place on earth is Disneyland. They went on their own and just had so much fun. I am really happy for them. In the same area as Disneyland is Downtown Disney. We got there at 9 p.m. and we had agreed that we would pick them up at 10. Well we called them and they told us where they were so we met them. We ended up hearing this awesome electric violin player and we bought his CD. We then went to the parking lot to leave and we sat in the lot for 40 minutes before we exited. We couldn't go anywhere, it was truly a fire hazard. Finally they stopped collecting money and we were able to get out. We wouldn't have had to pay anyway because you get 3 free hours. Tonight my hubby got home early and we were able to go to dinner and it was nice to just talk. He has been working a lot and traveling over 100 miles a day. We then went to Cold Stone and I won't even talk about what we ate tonight, but it wasn't NFNS. At least we walked a little bit. There really isn't any way to sugar coat it is there? Sugar coat is a nice choice of words isn't it? I am irritated with 2 sis-in-laws. Tell me what you think? I found out from my bro-in-law that my 2 sis-in-laws were at Disneyland with three of their kids. They don't live in the area, but they are down for a grad party that we are all going to on Saturday. Anyhow, I called Oldest and told her that they were there and I gave them the number to call them. They set up a spot to meet each other, which they did. OK, here is the part I am not happy about. They meet up with them and do the hi's and hugs and then they say, well we need to go now. They didn't invite them to go on a ride with them or anything. It wasn't like they were trying to stay with them just spend some time. For goodness sakes, these two womean (this is how I accidently spelled women and I then thought is was appropriate)are their aunts and 3 of their cousins were there too. I don't particularly care for some of the things these people do, but the one SIL has always rubbed me the wrong way. On the surface things are OK, but I feel like she has issues with me too. Not that I care enough to find out. I mean family functions and fine and all. This is something this SIL did once. My hubby and I stayed at her house. A little while later I realized I was missing a shirt. I forgot it at their house. She said she couldn't find it. Well, I saw her wearing my shirt later. I knew it was mine because the hem wasn't right on one sleave. I guess that gives you an idea. My girls aren't as bothered but they thought it was weird. We are waiting to talk to an attorney regarding our short sale. We received a letter saying we could be held liable for the difference of the sale price and what is owed. They are starting to tax this difference. My realtor gave me a tax attorney phone number. On to something else I dont have time to do. Sorry so long |
| Bronwyn | posted 19-Jun-2009 6:39am K10 I don't know what the cousins ages are in relationship to your daughters but it does seem rude or at least strange. If the cousins are your girls ages or close it would seem like it would have been so fun to all hang out together. Family situations can be so complicated some times. I think the reason that things like this are a concern is because you don't want your children to be rejected or dismissed so easily. At least that is how I would feel. Family is a big deal to me and having cousins as friends I think is the best. The shirt thing is way weird.....could she have thought it was hers, I wouldn't think that could be the case??? I thought the reason you were selling your house on the short sale was because of the difference between the value of the house now and the value when you bought it. Doesn't that take care of the discrepancy? |
| Debster | posted 19-Jun-2009 8:18am Hilda, glad to hear that you are busy....good for you. Happy almost 60! K10, who can figure families out? You can pick your friends, but not your families. Don't spend a single minute trying to figure it out. I find that these situations usually stem from some kind of jealousy. Your kids had a great time and so did you and your husband....who needs them and their issues. If she is so desperate, let her keep the darn shirt....sad,,sad,,sad! Yep, no matter what your financial situation is, no help or bale out for the little guy....big corporations, yes, but we want every last tax dollar from our hard working citizens. I sound like a bitter person don't I.....I guess this "suit" has gotten me! |
| Hilda | posted 19-Jun-2009 10:06am My portion sizes have been too big lately and I have not lost any weight, just maintained. I want to get back on track. |
| Debbie M. | posted 19-Jun-2009 10:19am I don't want to weigh today because I woke up all puffy. So I'll weigh on Monday. See ya!~ |
| Debbie M. | posted 19-Jun-2009 10:34am You are right Hilda, portion size is very important. It seems like I always over eat if I do not pre-measure before I start eating things like cracker. They must be limited. Happy birthday when it comes! Missing Connie. |
| K10 | posted 19-Jun-2009 10:46am Bronwyn: The kids are similar ages. One is 6 months older than my oldest and the other two are near my youngests age. The shirt thing happened a long time ago and I never said anything. My kids aren't really close to their cousins. There is only one set of cousins that are within about half an hour of our house. They seem to get along, but we have friends that are much closer to our family. My husband wasn't ever super close with his sisters (4), but the one whom we have had issues with is the closest to his age. She seems ok when we are around her, but then there are little things like I have explained. The kicker is we have to see them tomorrow. We are selling the house because the amount of our payment and what my husband makes now compared to before. We tried to work with the bank but they wouldn't lower the payment. We thought a short sale may be a good idea because from what I understand it is better on our credit than a foreclosure. Someone said that why the government is starting to tax the difference between your sale price and what you owe is there are people who have taken out money on their homes and not used it for what they were supposed to, so they have this money and they are letting their homes be foreclosed on. They are treating it like income even though we don't have that money sitting around. Typical of today, someone else screws up and we punish everybody for it. So right now we have put our sale on hold until we talk to an attorney. The government would treat it like we have earned over $150,000. I don't want to be taxed on that. Debster: I have said for years; you can pick your nose, you can pick your butt, but you can't pick your family. Yes the kids did have a great time. I will just focus on that. OK, I will try to focus on that. :) I wonder why my post was anonymous last night? Why does it change? I noticed it this morning at least. Great day to all. My friend is giving me a facial today. That is what she does for a living. What is great is she does it for free. She says it is because I do so much for her. I picked up her daughter every day this year and brought her to school so she didn't have to drop her 3 kids off at 3 different schools each day. They live maybe two miles from my house. It was nice seeing her each day. Bye!!! |
| Karin | posted 19-Jun-2009 3:22pm OK, Karin in Orlando here again! Thanks for all the warm welcomes! I have actually been having a very easy time with NSNF since I started on May 7th and have only cheated just a few times by eating 100 calorie pkg of chocolate covered pretzels (one every other day) because they were expensive and I couldn't bear to give them away. I haven't binged at all except for after the very first time I went grocery shopping, I was so frustrated that everything I like has either sugar or flour in it so I bought a can of low fat Pringles and ate them all within a 12 hour time span. I won't give my weight because I don't actually know what it is. Let's just say I need to lose quite a bit but not as much as that Ruby woman with the reality show. I started NSNF because of a recommendation from my therapist at a place in Winter Park called Choices, they deal pretty much exclusively with people who have food issues. My therapist has been doing NSNF for about 16 years and lost 100 lbs as a result so I figured that was a pretty good recommendation. My friends and coworkers can already see that I've lost weight and I can definitely see it in my face, my waist and my feet...I'm really happy about this and so optimistic that I can follow this program for a good long time. Yay! By the way, I'm 43, Single and live alone so that makes it easier to keep myself away from temptation. I gave away all my open pasta, bread crumbs, pop tarts, etc. and returned all the unopened ones to Publix for $15 on a gift card. I still have one can of biscuits in the fridge as sort of a test for my willpower or something. I had a little epiphany the other day and decided that all of my trigger foods, pizza, pasta, bread and crackers are actually untrustworthy foods. What I mean by that is that these foods cannot be trusted to tell me when I've eaten enough of them because they don't really fill me up like good and healthy foods do. Instead, they make me want even more of them...stupid bad liar foods! I'm thinking that one day I will be able to eat a small amount of my trigger foods and not have it turn into a binge as long as I stay aware and make sure that I make the bulk of my meal out of healthy filling stuff and only eat a small amount of my trigger food on the side. I haven't tested this yet besides with the few 100 calorie packs that I ate in the very beginning, so we'll see. I really wish I'd known about NSNF a long time ago although I'm thinking I might have heard about it but had never talked to anyone who had made it a lifestyle and could convince me that it works. Wow, its so busy at work today, I'll have write more later on. Bye for now, Karin in Orlando |
| Bronwyn | posted 19-Jun-2009 4:09pm Good for you Karin....you are on the right track for sure. More about your epiphany, I read about this woman who decided that any food that she ate, that she would observe how she felt after. She was particularly interested in how long it was before she felt hungry again. She tried to eliminate those foods that made her want to just keep eating, or that she ate and then found herself hungry again very soon after eating. I am trying to think about this with the foods I eat. Overall though I think I have given chocolate (my major trigger food) WAY too much power. There is a physical and emotional trigger for me because I "think" I can't eat a little bit. Once I have chocolate I throw in the towel and have a binge on it. Honest to goodness....how stupid is that......it is just chocolate and how could it have that much power over me. I think I give it too much power and that I can easily stop......but, still it is better to not start. I just don't want an inanimate object to have so much power though, and I am not going to allow it to rule my life.....I am way to smart for that I am woman hear me roar......"it is just chocolate, it means nothing, it gives back nothing, I don't need it in my life"!!!! I am truly getting mad at chocolate.........mad at myself,,,,,,mad at this ongoing fight to be happy with me!!! Why would we abuse our bodies with things that make us unhappy......even just too many calories is a form of abuse. Anyways, sometimes you just have to get mad at yourself and I am mad at myself today. I have a pattern of failure built into my diet programs......one part is impatience with time and effort required and slowness of progress, the other part is needing more faith that I can lose weight.By the way you all need to know I am just ripping on myself no one here.....just fed up and mad at myself. Enough is enough, is enough, eh!!!! Yes I have a lot of stress but no eating chocolate doesn't take that away.....it compounds the problem. I want to write that I will be abstinent from chocolate but, I need to know i can keep that commitment before I make it and fail again. |
| K10 | posted 19-Jun-2009 5:00pm Karin: I really like what you said. I think I am going to try and track how I feel when I eat certain things, how long before I want to eat again etc. |
| Hilda | posted 19-Jun-2009 5:49pm I am going to see "My Life In Ruins" tonight. I loved "My Big Fat Greek Wedding." |
| Bronwyn | posted 19-Jun-2009 8:03pm I hope you aren't disappointed Hilda. The reviews are not very good. We are going to "The Proposal",,,,who knows about any of these shows by the reviews though, eh! |
| Karin | posted 20-Jun-2009 9:18am Bronwyn, don't beat yourself up, just realize your weaknesses and do your best to try to abstain from them. What I learned from this abstinence diet is that you really should be abstaining from all things that are your triggers, not just sugar and flour. I suppose I am lucky that chocolate is not also my trigger, I can be happy with just a taste of it, in fact, I can't really stand to have too much chocolate, it makes me want to drink a gallon of water or milk. What I really love is the combination of coffee and toffee flavors together, so you know I am particularly upset that Wendy's didn't come out with their coffee toffee frosty until AFTER I had started this program. I had a bit of a happy accident the other day regarding this, though, I'll explain... I told my therapist that I like to drink milk with my homemade sugar-free granola (I'll share the recipe in my next post) but that when I take milk to work it never is cold enough by the time I get there, I will only drink ice cold milk. She said that I should pour the milk into a container and put it in the freezer about an hour before I leave for work in the morning, that way it will still be ice cold when I get there...she's so smart! I did this for a few days straight until one day I forgot to take the milk to work and it froze. I had been putting it in one of those containers that came with my Magic Bullet type blender thingys because it came with a screw-on lid...do you see where I'm going with this yet? I decided to take the frozen skim milk which was already inside a 'blender' and squirt a little mocha java syrup into it (one of the things I forgot to throw away when I started this abstinence program, whoops!) and added some Splenda and put the blender blade onto the bottom to make an awesome chocolate/coffee milkshake. I used less than a tablespoon of the syrup in about 12 ounces of frozen milk so I think that was OK. I drank half of it before I decided that my coffee/chocolate craving had been satisfied and besides that it was making me feel really phlegmy so I put the lid back on and saved it in the freezer for the next day. Again, I consider myself lucky that just a small amount of something like this can make me feel like I've really splurged when I really haven't. We will see how well this works next week when we have Publix marble cake at work for all the June birthday people. I've passed up cake 4 times so far during this program but none of it was Publix marble cake, either...uh oh... Pizza is another thing that I've been craving although I can honestly say that the longer I stay away from it, the less intense my craving becomes. One day I hope to be able to have a couple of slices and then push it away, although my therapist believes in total abstinence from your triggers...she says that 'controlled eating' is a slippery slope and in her experience, never works. We will see...I don't feel ready to try this theory out on pizza just yet. It was also recommended to me to attend OA meetings and I did go to one with my friend who is also an overeater but not ready to commit to an abstinence program. She is married with a child so I think that makes it triple as hard to work this plan. Anyway, we both felt that the people in OA were a little too fanatical and being an atheist, I was majorly turned off by the Higher Power aspect of the program. I believe in personal responsibility, I am the one who made myself overweight and I am the one who is going to help myself lose the weight. That's just how I feel about it and that's the only way my brain will let me think about it so if the Higher Power thing works for you then that's great, at least you have a huge support group out there amongst the other OA-ers. I came here as an alternative to OA because I realized that to make this work, I really need to be involved in a supportive community. =) I'm going to a new farmers market this morning, its less than a mile away from my house and seems to have great prices compared to the grocery stores. Hopefully I will turn this into a weekly ritual so that I can stock up on yummy fruits and veggies every Saturday and have lots of healthy choices in my fridge to keep me on track all week long. Have an awesome weekend! Karin in Orlando |
| Bronwyn | posted 20-Jun-2009 7:01pm Shoot....made a post and it got lost again....don't have time to post again. Hope you are all doing well and having a great week-end. |
| K10 | posted 20-Jun-2009 9:43pm I have had a barfy husband today. He is feeling better now and is eating some chicken soup. I just hope no one else gets it. Youngest goes to camp on Monday and I would hate for her to be sick and have to miss it. |
| Hilda | posted 21-Jun-2009 12:22am Use the Ezekiel tortilla for your pizza crust and make yourself an individual pizza. |
| Hilda | posted 21-Jun-2009 12:24am I enjoyed getting out and going to the movie, but it was not near as good as My Big Fat Greek Wedding. She has lost 40 pounds since that movie and looks amazing. |
| Hilda | posted 21-Jun-2009 12:24am How was The Proposal? |
| K10 | posted 21-Jun-2009 12:32am One and of our hermit crabs died, one more to go. I hope all goes well with this one. Obviously my 13 year old isn't ready for the pet responsibility. Actually I think he needed a new shell and wasn't able to get into one. Hubby is feeling better. I am glad about that. Have a good night ladies. |
| Connie | posted 21-Jun-2009 12:57am Hi girls! Just a quick post from MI. My trip so far has been crazy...my luggage got lost so I've been in borrowed clothes all day. I did not get to wear my cutie red dress to the shower today. So sad! But my luggage finally showed up and so now I feel better. Lot's to do helping with the shower, it was wonderful. People stay up late here, it's light out so long. But finally everyone is going off to bed and I wanted to check in. I miss posting here...I read, briefly, all the posts. Welcome Karin. It was such a relief to hear from everyone on this site. OMG, I think I'm addicted to you all. Tomorrow I will catch up more. I have not been totally NFNS since arriving and I'm ready to get right back on track. I feel bloated and uncomfortable. So tomorrow I will be true blue. |
| Debster | posted 21-Jun-2009 8:11am Hello Everyone and Welcome, Karin. Connie....too bad about the red dress. I was just thinking....if my luggage was lost I would not be able to borrow clothes...OMG....what a dilemna that would be. There are not many people my size so I would have to find some specialty store....quickly! Karin, I am not an atheist, however I found the OA group that I attended years ago a bit too "over-the-top" and it made me uncomfortable, although I would love to give this problem up to a higher power. I believe that we are all being tested in different ways (just my belief) and this addiction thing is just one of them...a tough one, too. K10---I hope you children don't get sick...That would just be ashame. My niece is still "recovereing" from her illness....ups and downs with this one. Bronwyn, you are way too hard on yourself. |
| K10 | posted 21-Jun-2009 12:51pm Karin: I had a friend who went to OA and she said all they talked about was food and she felt like it made it harder do deal with her issues. Debster: I don't know what I would do either in regards to lost luggage. I guess it would depend on who I was visiting. My oldest says she isn't feeling well. I think some of it is, we are supposed to go to a friends house that she hasn't seen in a long time and go swimming and she is on her period and doesn't use certain things yet. She had some chicken noodle soup for breakfast. I told her she needed to lay down. She also has a drama practice tonight and she doesn't have her entire costume yet. I think that is some of it too. This way though, I won't have to rush home from my friends house. Hubby is feeling better, other than his stomach muscles are so sore from throwing up yesterday. He liked his Father's Day gifts. Connie: Hi. I guess your hubby will have to take you somewhere where you can wear you red dress. :) Hi Hilda and Bronwyn. Good day to everyone. |
| Connie | posted 21-Jun-2009 1:15pm I've had to sneak away for a minute on the computer. My sister's house is on a lake, lot's to do around here. The entire property is very beautiful, but so much work to keep up with. Magazine cover beauty. It's like visiting another world! She just bought a BMW convertible, she picked me up at the airport in it...we had a 1 1/2 hour drive. I looked like the Bride of Frankenstein! But I love her. She has worked her butt off and deserves every bit of it. I'm in the "when in Rome" conundrum. She is WW, so I am without my usual fare. I guess it will be all right. Tomorrow I travel to another sisters house where I will have a lot more control over what I eat. I'm going to try and take a nap. I have barely slept since arriving. I hope everyone is well. |
| Anonymous | posted 21-Jun-2009 7:17pm Well, I made it back home Friday. Georgia was soooo hot. The good thing about Clearwater is we always have a good breeze. In Ga. it was just like an oven. The actual high temperature was 101 most of the time I was there. We went to the beach Saturday and rode bikes Sunday. I could tell I had not exercised all week. It said 102 on the bike computer. It took my face a couple of hours for the red to go away. We won't be doing that again. I can't take that kind of heat anymore. Karin welcome. It is nice having another Floridian on board. I did pretty good over the week, maybe gained a pound but I should have sweated it off today. I have gotten addicted to red grapes and SF peanut butter. My favorite treat right now. Connie your sister's place sounds great. My daughter ask me yesterday if she could come live with us for a year and go to a school that is 30 minutes away in St. Pete. I am not going to get excited yet because she changes with the wind. It would be nice to have her around again for awhile. Well, it has been a long week and weekend. I left my parents crying in the driveway. Man does that hurt the heart. Everyone have a good night. |
| Angie | posted 21-Jun-2009 7:17pm That was me. |
| Karin | posted 21-Jun-2009 10:15pm Wow, Connie, I haven't thought yet about how I will eat when I'm away from home for a few days... My mother (who is paying for my therapy) lives in NC and I'm driving up to visit her at the end of July for her birthday. I should send her a grocery list of some of the stuff that I can eat, I'm glad you made me think about that. Thank you again to everyone for welcoming me, I'm so glad I found this place! I went to the farmer's market yesterday and got all kinds of yummy stuff and then went to lunch with my friend and her 9 year old daughter. I braved a pizza restaurant so that I could get a big antipasto salad, and boy was it big! I ended up taking half of it home. I asked beforehand if it came with croutons and they said No so I thought I was safe until our salads showed up on our table with two steaming hot garlic rolls on the edge of each plate. I picked up both of them and gave them to my friend and her daughter to share. I watched her daughter eat the most delicious looking slice of pepperoni pizza and then decided to block my view of that and the garlic rolls by moving my glass of water in front of it. I guess I wasn't so subtle and my friend saw me and apologized as she covered up the rolls with a paper plate...I thought that was sweet of her. I was seconds away from taking one back and eating it, the smell of them was so amazing. Anyway, I made it through that trial, so yay for me! At the farmers market I tried homemade tabbouleh and homemade hummus...so yummy, but very expensive. I thought I didn't like either one until I tried them yesterday, maybe I can find a great recipe and make some that good at home. I even gave away the tiny piece of pita chip that was inside the sample of hummus...it is getting easier to resist things with every new day! Karin in Orlando |
| Karin | posted 21-Jun-2009 10:18pm edited 21-Jun-2009 10:18pm Here's the NSNF granola recipe I promised: Ingredients 3 C oatmeal 1/2 C flaxseed 1/2 C sunflower kernels or any other type nut 3/4 C raisins or other dried fruit (set aside until after everything has cooled) 2 heaping tablespoons margarine 1/2 cup pineapple or apple juice frozen concentrate, thawed 1 T cornstarch 2 T Splenda 2 T sugar free peanut butter 2 t vanilla extract 2 t cinnamon or apple pie spice * Heat oven to 350 degrees and place all dry ingredients except for dried fruit in large baking pan/jelly roll pan lined with aluminum foil, toast dry ingredients for about 10 minutes while preparing the rest. * Melt margarine and peanut butter together on stovetop in pot large enough to hold all ingredients including the dry ingredients. * Add cornstarch to cold fruit juice and still well until combined then add the Splenda, vanilla and cinnamon. * When 10 minutes is almost up, pour the fruit juice liquid into the melted ingredients and stir over medium heat continuously until it seems like it cant get any thicker. * Remove from heat and take toasted ingredients out of the oven. * Lower oven temperature to 250 degrees. * Pour all toasted ingredients into thickened mixture in pot by lifting it using the aluminum foil as a chute (hold the corners of one end in one hand and the corners of the other end in the other hand). * Stir well until all dry ingredients are moistened. * Place foil back on pan and spread moistened mixture onto foil lined pan, place back into 250 degree oven. * Let dry in oven for about 30 mins, stir every 10 minutes to make sure it dries evenly. * Remove from oven and let cool. * When cooled, place in plastic container and combine with dried fruit. ** Add a 1/2 C measuring cup/scoop to the container to regulate the portions. |
| Bronwyn | posted 22-Jun-2009 1:12am Connie I have a plan....lets have our NFNS reunion at your sister's place on the lake It sounds like you did get your suitcase back......good!Karin thanks for the granola recipe it sounds good. Listen hummus is so easy to make and I am sure a lot cheaper. Here is a very simple and delicious recipe: 1 roasted red pepper 1 can garbanzo beans (drained and rinsed) 1/4 cup cilantro (chopped) 2 Tablespoons Tahini 2 Tablespoons Lemon or Lime juice 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. red pepper flake 1/2 cumin Process in your food processor until creamy and then check for salt. Depending on the saltiness of your beans you may need up to 1/2 tsp. salt. Eat with veggies especially red pepper slices or make a sandwich using Ezekial wraps. Warm the wrap in a dry frying pan and then top with hummus and sliced peppers, cucumber a little onion and some spinach and grated cheese.....wrap up and enjoy!!!! Hilda we ended up going to "Duplicity" at the cheap theatres. It was the opening night for "The Proposal" and we thought there may be line ups. Duplicity was okay......a little over the top with the duplicity stuff I was very uncomfortable at O.A. I do believe in a higher power and I believe it is God....so their continual reference to a "vague" higher power just didn't fit for me. I don't know it just didn't feel good to me, and I didn't care to keep going. I still think though that abstinence is a good idea.....such as this group choosing to be abstinent from flour and sugar. I think you can take good aspects from lots of programs and benefit from them. Angie, I can't imagine riding bike or doing anything strenuous in those temps..........WOW!!! I haven't been strict enough for a while now and I certainly feel a need to buckle down and apply myself more fully. Tomorrow is a new day and I hope a good day. Connie I am addicted to talking to you guys as well........... K10 hope your family is all on the mend. I am such a pansy with stomach stuff....hate being sick to the stomach. I hate to throw up....it is such a violent and indignant act and then, I feel so sorry for myself Debster.....hang in there,,,,you have so many things on your plate at the moment (I am sure none of them are flour and sugar thought right |
| K10 | posted 22-Jun-2009 2:03am I believe we are on the mend. This morning after I dropped Youngest at Sunday School I went to Kohls to look for some shirts and while I was there my stomach started giving me grief. As I was getting close to church my stomach was really grumbling and I was just hoping I would make it home. I did, but it was close. No vomiting just the other end. I am hoping I can get back on track. I am up a few pounds, well maybe not after today. Not the way I want to lose weight. Tuesday we have our Lose it for Life class, it is the second to the last one I feel that it is important for me to go, even when I gain. We were supposed to get together last Thursday for our monthly ladies birthday dinner and that didn't work out, so the one in "charge" has decided to have it on Tuesday. There are 6 in our ladies group and 3 of them go to the Bible study. The one in "charge" is in the class too. So I think I am the only one out of the class that is still going to the class. I will meet up with them later. When you have an upset stomach and are on NFNS it makes it a little harder. I did have some chicken noodle soup, dry Cheerios, a potato, some quinoa and about 10 oyster crackers. That was spread throughout the day. I hope I don't any residual effects from the crackers and noodles. Karin: Thanks for the granola recipe, I think I will try it soon. |
| Anonymous | posted 22-Jun-2009 9:04am I know this is a lttile off topic but I think it is timely and I'd like to share it with you if I may. This letter, I got from my Dad on Father's Day. It's just a wonderful insite to a little of how great an influence my Dad has been on me and those around him. Spiritual 6th sence I believe that we all start out pretty much the same. Our perceptions of the world about us according to the five senses we are born with. Over a lifetime I have gradually become aware of things that happened in my life which could not be accounted for naturally. I felt compelled to write some of them in "Highlights of a Spiritual Journey". As newlyweds, Helga and I started our lives together with enthusiasm but not much else. Lack of money dictated a certain self sufficiency. If something needed to be done we either did it ourselves or it just didnt get done. I must emphasise the dramatic success we experienced in "doing it ourselves". If the car needed a tune up, the house needed a new roof, whatever, we did it ourselves and the results were always good. As a matter of fact, better than good which made us wonder about the lifestyles of people we knew who paid someone else to do everything for them. Thinking and doing for yourself becomes a mindset and a lifestyle which lends itself to that gradual awakening to the awareness of "being helped" by something beyond self. Looking back, hindsight is 20/20 and it becomes obvious the times of inspiration and guidance were so prevalent that we can scarcely find reason for pride, and the feeling of "thankfulness" grows inside of us until our spirituality assumes a place equal to or even greater than the five senses we start life with. In the maturity of our faith the presence of God becomes the sweetest and most rewarding part of our lives. With that special 6th sense we see Him virtually everywhere and feel sorry for those who choose to live strictly according to their emprical senses, adamantly arguing against anything spiritual in life. At this point I would like to share a recent prayer and the answer to it. The prayer went like this: Dear Lord, please come back soon, the world is in pretty bad shape and we need you. I want to see your face and hear your words. The answer I imagined went like this: Your wish for my return is for your own comfort and not according to my agenda. Do you not see my face in the faces that surround you everyday? Do you know and understand all the words I have already given you? This was an attitude adjustment which serves my understanding and patience to be content with His will in all things. Look at the way we live, surrounded by the blessings of God. Our home is a little piece of paradise, even featured in the local newspaper. A Cadillac in our garage? Are you kidding me? We have never been "Cadillac" people, but there are not one, but two of them. Whats that? !! The love of family with our children nearby. A wife and Mother totally devoted and happy to be a wife, Mother and homemaker is a blessing beyond imagination in this modern world. With all the hullaballoo about healthcare in the news these days, let me say this: I would rather put my life and welfare in the hands of The Lord than any insureance company. I shall endure as long as He wants me to, and at age 70 being healthy with no prescription medications whatever for either of us, we are AS USUAL on our own, independantly doing our own thing and taking responsibility for our health rather than paying rediculous insurance premiums so someone else can keep us healthy. HA ! with the help and blessings of The Lord. Faith is illogical, but just like a snowball, the more you have the more you get and the effects of it are undeniable. I cannot imagine life without it. As for the disputes in organized religion as to doctrines or creeds let me just say this much: The love, grace and salvation of God is come to the world in the Name and Person of Jesus Christ, not the titles of The Trinity. Whether there be three or thirty three in The Godhead, only one bled and died on the cross to give you and me a chance to live. It is in His Name, by His blood and through His Spirit that we may be saved. Period. Love, Dad I'll write more about my weekend later in the day. Have a good one everybody. |
| Debbie M. | posted 22-Jun-2009 9:05am That was me. :o) |
| K10 | posted 22-Jun-2009 10:53am And AMEN!!!!!!!!! Thank you Debbie. Thanks to your dad too. |
| Debbie M. | posted 22-Jun-2009 11:31am Are you doing ok K10? Ihate it when a bug goes around in the family. Especially when we have important things to do or thing to do that we can't change the dates for. My weekend camping couldn't have turned out any netter. It was a new place for us to go. We had no idea it would be so beautiful and fun. We made a friend and an enemy though. As soon as we pulled up a man from another site came over and told us his wife was mad because we got the site they always get but couldn't get this time because we had already reserved it on line. THey werecross the street and down two. It was easy to see why she likedour site as we were right on the lake and it had a wonderful view. She walked by our site one time with her dog. I said Hi but she ignored me and kept walking. I guess her husband wasn't kidding when he said she was mad. The people right next to us ended up being very friendly and took us out on their speed boat for a lovely evening ride. I wish we could have stayed a couple more nights but back to work Steve had to go today. We will be going to Lake Michigan in a couple weeks for the 4th!~ I stayed NFNS all weekend resisting smores and various goodies the kids had. I don't feel like I lost anymore but I know I haven't gained. We are on the cusp of having a teen driver in the house. I just took my son to drivers education class today. It lasts two weeks. He will be 16 next month. I can't believe I have 2 teens already. It's hard for me to know how much to let go of them. Too much teathering and they rebell, not enough and they get into trouble. I've always been in control of my children's lives but I need to start letting them have more freedoms. Its hard for me to know how much is enough and how much is too much. Most people around me think I'm over protective but I think they are way to leanient. I think I have good kids, but I have seen good kids get caught up in bad situations before. I just want to make everything ok. I know I can't but thats my natural instinct. WHatis everyone having for supper tonight?I need to do some shopping. Therecipies sound really good. I wish my market had the Eziek wraps. I may ask them to order them. |
| Bronwyn | posted 22-Jun-2009 12:55pm Debbie your Fathers thoughts were wonderful. Your camping trip sounds so lovely.....on the lake. I love to be on the water. We once had a house that backed onto water and I loved that. I actually have wished over the years that we had never sold it. That is kind of funny that the lady held it against you that you booked on-line the spot she liked......why didn't she book it herself, eh? People are funny. BTW....you are so amazing this is really your heady power to go camping and stay NFNS, eh!!! Good for you. Connie when do you come home, I can't remember how long your "get away" was. You need to post a pic of yourself in the red dress, I am sure you look spectacular. I have a song going through my head but I am not quite sure of the words.....but, I think it is "lady in red you look so beautiful tonight". It is funny because unfortunately, I am not at all talented in music but words such as "memphis", "red dress" and many more always trigger a song in my mind. There are so many women on here that we haven't heard from in a while.....Diane, Kathy and others. Hope you guys are doing well. In fact I hope any of us that struggle to get on or stay on the program can have a successful week. K10....we both have stress but lets not put the additional stress on our bodies of eating flour and sugar.....you with me? |
| Bronwyn | posted 22-Jun-2009 1:03pm Okay we can dedicate the Utube....."lady in Red" by Chris de Burgh, to Connie |
| Connie | posted 22-Jun-2009 4:10pm I made it to my home town. I left the sisters house on the lake and am staying with the sister I normally stay with. The lake was beautiful...but the food there was terrible. All flour and sugar and tons of it and nothing else. Not even any cheese. My diet has been so bad for the last 48 hours and I haven't enjoyed it at all. My stomach is in distress. When my sister picked me up today she took me to the health food store. I stocked up on my favorites. We got sandwich's from the in store deli. I had turkey, red onion, cheese, avacado spinach and hummus on Ezek bread. I was so happy and relieved I almost cried. I called my daughter to share (I was really emotional about the food!) and she was happy too. She ate out with her father last night and had bread. She said she was up all night in the bathroom. So we were practically screaming with joy into the phones and she was so excited she ran a red light and got a ticket. I feel like it's my fault. Anyway, I'll pay it (as if she has any money anyway!) and I am starting to feel more like myself already. Not even a traffic ticket can bring me down now that I'm back on track. Be prepared, once you eat NFNS for any length of time, there is no going back. At least not comfortably. I miss you guys...I miss my lap top. I wont be home until next Sunday evening. Thanks for the song dedication. I really want to wear my dress. Debbie, lovely post from your father, just wonderful. There's so much I want to sit here and type, but I have to go. I should be able to check in more frequently. I am so glad to be NFNS again. F & S were making me feel terrible, mentaly and physically. Later guys. |
| Debbie M. | posted 22-Jun-2009 4:50pm Connie I know what you mean. I think when we eat horribly we tend to just get used to feeling bad. I know I was bloated all the time and didn't even know it because I was that way ALL the time. Eating in itself is such an emotional thing. We abuse ourselves by what we think is pampering ourselves with eating the wrong things, just because they taste good, or just because that is what our mother's gave us and its what we associate with comfort. But we are taking care of our bodies now and pampering ourselves with nourishing food. We are loving ourselves enough to keep the garbage out of our bobies and give ourselves the very best God made foods. The food God intended us to eat when he created us. Its is an emotional thing to be forced to give up nurturing yourself by not having the right things to feed upon. It makes so much sence how you feel Connie. Its like an epiphany to realize emotions can swing in the direction of the positive. Obesity is always associated with emotional eating in a negative way. But we are setting a new tone to emotional eating its positive. A positively wonderful way to treat yourself. Connie, I'm glad you'll be checking in more often. You and Bronwyn are the backbone of our group and I always look forward to writing and reading what you and the others have written. There were two cakes at my Mom and Dad's house just now. I was cutting the cake for everyone and licked my finger without realizing it. ooooops, oh well... I'll weigh tomorrow. |
| Angie | posted 22-Jun-2009 5:34pm Debbie M your Dad's letter lets us know that you were blessed with wonderful parents. You see so many abused children or just neglected children if you have a loving Mom and Dad you are truly blessed. What a sweet keepsake that letter will be. My Mother still has a letter that my Grandfather wrote my Grandmother when she was pregnant with Mama and he was out of town working. It had a breakdown of his check. The rent, what he was sending her to pay the bills and what he was keeping to live off of for the week. I think he was keeping $1.46. I think the whole check was around $10.00. It was a prescious letter that Mama will always treasure and even my daughter got a big kick out of it. It dates back in the 1930's. We had baby spinach with baked chicken strips, pecans and red grapes. I used southbeach ranch dressing. It was very good and light for this hot weather. I just bought four pints of blueberries they had on sale to make smoothies with and my blender started squealing. It is making a horrible noise so I guess we are going out tomorrow for a new blender. Hubby is not going to go without his smoothies. My daughter is coming Friday. She will be touring the school Saturday. Does anywone (Bronwyn) have a recipe for NFNS blueberry muffins? Have a good evening everyone. |
| Bronwyn | posted 22-Jun-2009 6:14pm Angie I don't but you have inspired me to try one out......we love blueberry muffins and I want a snack right now. I can afford it because I have been NFNS and 450 calories so far today. These are only 67 calories each.....I will post the recipe and give it a whirl and let you know: I am doing a few changes so I will let you know.....off to make a snack! Ingredients *1/2 cup milk (I used 1%) *1 cup quick oats - (you will grind 1/2 cup of the oats in food processor or coffee grinder until flour consistency) *1/2 egg *2 tbsp unsweetened (no sugar added) applesauce *2 tbsp Splenda (or other sweetener/sugar) *1 tsp baking powder *1/4 tsp cinnamon *dash of salt *1/4 tsp vanilla (optional) *1/4 cup frozen (or fresh) blueberries (about 4 or 5 blueberries per muffin) - could use bananas, apples or even carrots! Add nuts if you like. Of course, nuts alter the stats a tad :) Directions Preheat oven to 425 degrees Grease muffin cups or line with paper muffin liners. In a small bowl, combine the milk and HALF the oats (remember the other 1/2 of the oats will be ground as used as the flour substitute); let soak for 15 minutes. Grind 1/2 cup quick oats in food processor, coffee grinder, etc. until the consistency of flour. In a separate bowl, beat together egg and applesauce; stir in oatmeal mixture. In a third bowl, combine ground oatmeal (flour), splenda/sugar, baking powder and salt. Stir flour mixture into wet ingredients, just until combined. Mix in gently desired fruit and/or nuts. Spoon batter into prepared muffin cups until cups are 2/3 full. Bake in preheated oven for 15 to 17 minutes, until a toothpick inserted into the center of a muffin comes out clean. Makes 6 muffins Numb |
| Bronwyn | posted 22-Jun-2009 6:38pm Okay this is what I did and the dough tasted wonderful.....they smell good!!! 1 1/2 cups oats 1/2 cup almonds 1 Tablespoon Baking Powder 1/2 tsp. salt 1/2 tsp. nutmeg 1/4 cup sweetener of your choice process in food processor.....it looks like a fine cornmeal (Dr. Gott uses Cornmeal) Put dry ingredients in a large bowl, stir in 1 cup of blueberries fresh or frozen (don't defrost) and make a well in the middle of the dry ingredients Process: 2 bananas 1 tsp. almond flavouring 2 Tablespoons Coconut butter 1 egg 1 cup buttermilk Pour wet ingredients (all well processed) into the dry well and mix just until blended. Makes 12 muffins! |
| Bronwyn | posted 22-Jun-2009 6:41pm Okay I just realized I may have confused everyone.....the first recipe I got off of Sparks (the comments are ones made by the poster not me) and the second recipe in the following post is my renovation of the Sparks recipe. I am looking for gluten free oats because this would work so well for gluten free. |
| Bronwyn | posted 22-Jun-2009 7:02pm Angie these are not bad.....dense, heavy and very moist. Cook longer than a regular muffin.....more like 25 minutes at 425 (in my oven) but I would start to check at about 18 or so minutes with a toothpick. I didn't do the sparks recipe but my renovation of it. Very cake like not crumbly as much as a regular muffin. Personally I think the addition of some oil is important to texture and it is only 2 Tablespoons for 12 muffins. |
| Bronwyn | posted 22-Jun-2009 7:31pm 19 year old son said....these don't taste like your blueberry muffins I like the ones you usually make better. Husband ate one and didn't say anything,he also didn't have seconds which he would normally do.....I didn't ask him what he thought because it seems that if I suggest I made something healthier than it isn't well received |
| Angie | posted 22-Jun-2009 8:03pm Thanks Bronwyn. I am going in the kitchen now and play around with it and see what I can come up with. I wonder how a mashed banana would do in there. Anyway. I will let you know what I come up with. Thank you for the trouble you went too. You are funny, if my husband don't ask for seconds I get the message too. |
| Connie | posted 22-Jun-2009 8:34pm If my husband didn't ask for seconds, I would say "more for me!" Bronwyn, thank you for the recipe. My sister and I are going to try it. My daughter will be thrilled too. I just ate a good NFNS dinner. So good. I may have ate too much, but I don't care. It was great. I'm looking forward to the food I will eat tomorrow as well. I feel "more free" eating NFNS than I did when I wasn't. That sounds odd. But it is true. I ate a bunch of green beans and rice. I think I'm feeling "elation" over my food. What is that? Debbie, the things you said makes sense...but know I think I may be the "weird" eater some people think I am. Quiet night I hope. I have a good book and a full belly. |
| Angie | posted 22-Jun-2009 9:19pm OK, I did the sparks recipe because that was all the ingredients I had. I added half a banana and some olive oil. I used four packs of truvia and it could have used one more. It was alright. I think it will be better cool and I am going to eat some for breakfast in the morning and give you my second opinion. I have never made my own flour so that was an educational experience. I used my coffee grinder and it worked really good. Got a new blender today. Spent more than we wanted but it had metal parts instead of plastic and it looked like good quality. It's made by the same people who make the Kurig coffee pots. Good night all. |
| K10 | posted 22-Jun-2009 10:57pm Hi. Lots going on here today. My tummy is on the mend. I am bloated though. It is so weird how when I would have an upset stomach before, I would reach for crackers, white bread, etc. It makes it hard when you are NFNS in regards to knowing what to eat because of how I can have issues with fiber. Some of my tummy irritation today may be from the noodles and crackers, but it could be from the other issue. I had 2 scrambled eggs this morning. For lunch I had some quinoa and a banana. For dinner I had one of the cooked chickens from Sams club ( I know they have some sugar because of the Lawry's salt and I noticed it has wheat flour, I didn't know that part, not much I can do now though)and some left over hash browns with some cheese and milk. By the way, I didn't have the whole chicken, just the wings. I have also had some grape juice today. I just had a peanut butter spoon. I bought some kiwi to make a strawberry and kiwi smoothie. I need to buy yogurt though. The kiwi aren't ripe yet anyway. Youngest left for church camp today, I hope she has a great time. Last year she started her period for her very first time, I hope nothing too exciting happens this year. Next year she will go to a new camp with a new church. That is kind of sad. Debbie: I can't believe that woman was mad at you. We have a favorite spot in San Diego, the time we didn't get it we teasingly said to the people, "you got our spot." What a wacko. I am glad your other neighbors were nice. Great job staying NFNS. What day is your son's birthday? Oldests birthday is next month too. Just 15 though. Connie: I am glad you are feeling better and are able to eat NFNS. Have a good night ladies. I hope to hear from the others soon. You are missed. |
| Debster | posted 23-Jun-2009 12:07am Hello....Hi hope everyone is doing great....I have been so busy this weekend and have not had time to check in but I'm catching up on all of the "info". Good night all.... |
| Bronwyn | posted 23-Jun-2009 12:16am Angie I just tried one of "my" muffins cold. I liked it better cold and in fact thought it was pretty good. You mentioned the banana and I did have that in mine but there wasn't any in the Sparks recipe. I am going to work on it some more another day but I think it has some potential actually. In fact I think it is just about there. They don't rise like a regular muffin does. a little flat on top. Connie let me know what you and your sister decide.....maybe just one banana. We can keep working on this and come up with something perfect. Hey maybe we should constantly do this kind of stuff and make our own recipe book.......we can go to book signings together, how fun!!!! |
| Bronwyn | posted 23-Jun-2009 12:38am Connie, funny story about your daughter. I think it would be much safer,and of course less expensive to pull over to the side of the road for any further NFNS conversations while driving |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 7:02am Oh my goodness, running a red light?!!I'm glad there wasn't a crash. The muffins sound good. K10, yea this woman was truely mad. I'm sad she had to let it ruin her weekend. I didn't see anyone over their at their site talking at all. How strange. I have tons of things my Dad writes. I print out every one and would love to have a leather bound book to pass down through the generations. He is truely a wise man. Not only is he wise but he is gentle and kind and truely selfless. Angie, good idea with the banana. It would add sweetness. Drum roll please.........................................................................I have a new low to announce!! 1 8 5 tada!!!!!!! I had to do a happy dance this morning. heh |
| Angie | posted 23-Jun-2009 7:41am Debbie M congrats on the weight loss! Bronwyn I did have my muffin cold this morning and put a little smart balance on it and it was actually good. I only added half a banana I will do a whole one next time. I need to get some coconut butter. I have never tried any of the coconut products. On Know the Cause yesterday they made a drink with coconut juice and cocoa in a blender. It sounded really good. 85 degrees at 7:00 this morning. We have a 40% chance of rain the rest of the week that will cool us down a little. It's actually quit breezy and don't feel that hot this morning. Karin where are you? Hey to K10, Debster and Connie. Have a great day. |
| K10 | posted 23-Jun-2009 10:33am Debbie: Way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so happy for you. What types of things are you eating throught the day? That is so awesome. Bronwyn: Look at Debbie's success, we can do it too. Whether we lose weight or not we know NFNS makes us feel better. I was totally NFNS yesterday. Good day everyone. |
| Bronwyn | posted 23-Jun-2009 11:36am Angie so you did the Sparks people recipe for the muffin with just the addition of 1/2 banana....no oil or anything? Debbie you are doing so well....glad to hear about your new low...WOOHOO!!! K10....we are not going to let these people show us up are we |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 11:59am K10, I have been eating very simple things. Puffed wheat cereal with milk. Ezekiel english muffins with cream cheese. Ezekiel bread when having a lunch meat sandwich with lettuce and tomato or toast with eggs. OJ, tea, milk, V-8 juice, coffee. Salads with tomato and ranch dressing and all kinds of veggies and cheese. Greek yogurt with blueberries and slivered almonds. Mixed nuts, popcorn popped in coconut oil. Rice cakes and laughing cow cheese on top any meat, trisuits with cheese and pickles. I eat just about anything without flour or sugar. Its amazing and wonderful. The biggest secret to this diet is TIME. Just keep doing it and it works! My husband was saying just this morning that its remarkable how my mood is much more stable since I have been off sugar, flour and alcohol. Not that I drank a lot but I think it did mess with my antidepressant. I can't remember the last time I weighed 185. Maybe 15 years ago? C'mon girls, I know you can do it just watch your portions! |
| Connie | posted 23-Jun-2009 12:14pm Debbie!!!!!!! Happy, happy, joy, joy! Isn't it wonderful???? That news is wonderful. I'm sitting here with the strong suspision I have probably gained 5 punds. I'm serious. But I hope to have it gone by the time I get home. We will not be able to do the muffins until tomorrow maybe. Sister has no coconut butter and I'm not sure if she will have a chance to get any. She is gluten intolerant, but eats acceptable flours. Planning meals around here is tricky. Shrimp scampi tonmight. I'm going to cook as much as possible. I don't have my recipes so I am just goinmg to do the best I can. I hope everyone is well and happy. |
| Bronwyn | posted 23-Jun-2009 12:42pm Connie my daughter in law is gluten intolerant as well and she can't eat oats. I have learned though that there are gluten free oatmeals but I haven't looked yet. I am sure there are other brands but I read that Bob's Red Mill makes gluten free oatmeal. When you guys go shopping you may want to look for that. I want to make my DIL some with gluten free oat muffins so I am going to be on the look as well. In fact I want to start making some healthy little snack things for my darling little grandson. He is starting into some finger foods. I am going to make him the Nikki healthy cookies but without chocolate and possibly without the coconut (not sure if he is too young for that).......so they will be more like a sugar free/gluten free muffin type thing. I think it is important to not give babies and young children sweet things then they want to eat junk. So many of the snack foods for little kids are just baby junk instead of adult junk. |
| Nillabear | posted 23-Jun-2009 1:31pm Does anyone use a good smoothie machine? I had a blender and pitched it because it wouldn't even break up the ice I had. I want a good one but don't want to break the bank. |
| K10 | posted 23-Jun-2009 2:05pm Nillabear: I am looking into that too. I have a simple blender from 20 years ago. I use frozen fruit in my smoothies, no ice. I thought I killed my blender recently, but it worked again I think it overheated. I know I will need one soon. |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 2:10pm I'm having a challenging day. It seems I keep saying and doing the wrong thing. My day started out super but has been full of tears and dissagreements. :o( |
| Angie | posted 23-Jun-2009 2:33pm Bronwyn I did put some olive oil in my muffins. Honestly I probably won't make them again unless I get a brain storm to make them a little tastier. Connie what flours are exceptable for your sister. I sometmes think I am gluten intolerant but the oatmeal doesn't bother me. Wheat kills my stomach now that I have cut it out. Debbie M don't you know that is the devil. When you wake up in a great mood he can't stand it. Just say keepp away from me Satan, you are not going to rule my day! Seriously I hope your day gets better. Hey Nillabear, I haven't seen you here in awhile. |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 2:56pm Angie, You just put a smile on my face. You are SOOOOOO RIGHT! Sometimes when we are in the thick of it we can't see what is happening. I am going to enjoy my day and embrace my joy. Thanks again for clearing my grey sky! |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 2:57pm I just got a disturbing email about the connection between soy and homosexuality. Has anyone else heard about this theory? |
| Connie | posted 23-Jun-2009 3:52pm Whaaaat? Never heard of it...I think that is extremely suspicious. Breakfast this morning was an Ezek english muffin, lunch was left over rice. Not feeling worried about what your eating is PRICELESS! I think some of us sisters are going to go see "the proposal" tonight. That's after dinner and no popcorn for me. Nillabear, how are you? Bronwyn, I may have to wait until I get home to do the muffins. My sister buys lot's of prepackaged baking mixes. I don't blame her, it is easier and she is sure it's gluten free. We are going to be busy for the rest of the week. K10, I'm so glad your feeling better. Get some snacky things to have on hand for down times. There's so much out there to choose from. |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 4:13pm I looked on snoops and it says nothing about this strange email. |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 4:40pm Meatloaf and baked potatoes tonight. What are you all having? |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 5:05pm K10, The best thing I did was get our 4 kids their own towel colors for the camper. The old giant thick beach towels we use to take to the beach, took way too much space and took a long time to dry. And no one ever claimed the one on the floor was theirs. I got the idea to buy the kids regular sized thin bath towels. Each child has 4 towels in their own color to do with as they please. They must shower AND take these towels to the beach.(Not the same one, of course) When there is a towel laying around that need to go onto the clothes line to dry, I always know who it belongs to. It's been one of the best things I've done. Hubby and I have our own colors too. |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 8:02pm To those who turned 45 already. What was it like? What did it mean to you? |
| K10 | posted 23-Jun-2009 8:05pm Debbie: Great idea, thanks for that tip. I don't use the thick beach towels either, they just don't dry. Hey you know what we should do, put pictures of our trailers on the other site. What do you think? I just split a smoothie with my daughter. 1 cup of nonfat plain yogurt, 1 banana, and frozen peaches. It is yummy and the right amount when you share. Connie: The Proposal looks funny. I hope you have fun. |
| K10 | posted 23-Jun-2009 8:06pm Debbie: I am turning 40 this year. |
| Debbie M. | posted 23-Jun-2009 8:22pm My 40th was really depressing. My kids were out of town and I didn't have a perty and no one I knew called. I even cried. I already put a picture of the coveted camp site. I'll go ahead and put one of our rig. |
| Bronwyn | posted 23-Jun-2009 8:56pm I don't remember 45 one way or the other....doesn't stand out in my mind. I remember 40 and 50. I hated 40. I didn't want a party and I didn't want to not have a party. I always said I didn't want any surprises or any parties but, in the deep recesses of my (confused ) mind I also worried no one would do anything. Does anyone have any idea what I mean? I packed up the kids and myself and headed off on a big road trip so I wouldn't be here when it was my birthday. My husband couldn't get away but, I had this idea that his parents would like me to bring the kids out to visit. They live about 800 miles East of here in Manitoba. I got there and just felt stuck there with my kids. It turned out to be a dumb trip and not any fun at all. I think my MIL wondered what I was doing there. Anyways maybe it is best to decide what you want your 40th birthday to look like and let other people know what you want. K10 jealous about the smoothie.....I wish I hadn't killed my vitamix... The proposal has good reviews. |
| Connie | posted 23-Jun-2009 9:57pm We can't go to the movies until tomorrow. Sister and I went for a long walk, so nice. The weather here in MI, although good and warm, is so much friendlier than TN. I'm still full from dinner. Ladies, birthday's are a gift. All of them are great. I'm not one for fanfare and am glad when I don't get it. I don't know why I'm like that. It seems like a lot of pressure to put on our loved ones's...to make a fuss, the right kind of fuss, for our birthday's. My idea of a happy birthday is No cooking no one gives me grief and I get to spend the day doing what I want What could be better? Now I don't even need cake! Debbie, don't ever cry on your birthday...it will break hearts. I forgot how big the mosquitos are here. |
| Bronwyn | posted 24-Jun-2009 3:28am Debbie I liked your pictures. How much weight did you say your husband lost, he is so slim and doesn't seem like he would have ever been heavy. You look like such a nice family our having a great time....in a great parking spot I was just fooling around and wanted to see if I could post a pic by myself. I did it....I posted a pic taken the night before I cut my hair. My hair needed to be washed and I am certainly not smiling all in all it is a bit dreadful of a shot......but I am proud of myself for being able to post a pic all by myself. |
| Debbie M. | posted 24-Jun-2009 10:16am Bronwyn, I didn't see your picture. Steve lost 150 pounds. Today is my birthday. I'm officially 45. Its seems immposible. I went to Wal-Mart today and had to get a 14 in the shorts I just got a month ago. Yey! 14. Now I won't be hicking them up all the time now. Its going to be in the 90's today and very humid. I'm sure we will be in the pool. Happy day all. |
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