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No Flour, No Sugar Diet






Summary


Dr. Gott's No Flour, No Sugar Diet presents a simple, straight-forward way to lose weight and keep it off for a lifetime. All you need do is eliminate flour and sugar from your diet.


 

Description


This diet book contains common-sense techniques on how to eat better and achieve a healthier lifestyle. It gets you to focus on foods that are nutritional and satisfying. Thus, you can both lose weight and become healthier in the process.

You can eat brown rice, lean meats, low-fat dairy products, fruits and vegetables. But, you have to stop eating foods like bagels, pasta, bread, cereal, white rice, cookies, sweets, and cakes.

Many excellent recipes are included in the book with have no flour and sugar, yet taste delicious.

The approach is to keep things simple by just eliminating flour and sugar, the two primary food ingredients that are causing the obesity problem in America. Our culture has become addicted to sweets. This book helps you break the addiction and get on track for eating healthier while losing that extra weight.


History


Dr. Gott is a medical columnist published in over 350 newspaper daily. He is a practicing physician with a general practice in Connecticut. He's also the director of medicine at Hotchkiss School (a prep-school).


Criticism


Giving up bread and sweets may simply be too hard for some people. Sugar is in a great majority of products sold today. While the diet sounds simple, implementing it and sticking to it is quiet a challenge.




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K10
posted 5-Aug-2009 12:26pm

Sherri: I am such a night eater. Maybe we can help each other with this.
Bronwyn
posted 5-Aug-2009 12:40pm

It is very cool, overcast and drizzly here. I am contemplating putting on the furnace. I hate dark dreary days...yuck!!!

Connie can you have green tea? You need to just stay out of the kitchen today altogether and you will be fine. Do you have any really engaging books to read?

I feel like I have missed some posts.......K10 is already at Debbie's goal weight? What did I miss?

K10 were you snackey and snarkey or just snackey smile ??? I think I am most snackey feeling when I am overwhelmed or lacking in motivation to do things I need to do so I feel unsettled and then I feel like eating something. Does that make any sense. When I feel like I am progressing and doing worthwhile things and accomplishing goals than I don't think about food as much. The problem is I am at home all of the time (well you know....mostly) and I dont' have a strict schedule and I procrastinate things I don't want to do such as ironing and so forth.

Off to do a green smoothie........best wishes to you all for a successful NFNS day.

Oh yeah.....Sherri I think you are right about the water exercise. It would be good for my joints but I dont' know if it woudl be weight bearing......would it. That is what I need for my bones?
Connie
posted 5-Aug-2009 12:53pm

Morning. I went back to sleep this morning and slept and slept. Finally I got some sleep. I know I will feel groggy all day but that's all right. I do have a headache. I can have coffee but not with any cream. I can't drink black coffee. So I'm having hot tea. I had a little bit of chicken stock, not much to say about that. I don't have to drink the stock so I probably wont. I will have lot's of hot tea. I have decided to stay off my feet today. Lay around and read or something.
Debbie M.
posted 5-Aug-2009 1:33pm

Tea will ward off a withdrawal headache.

Why is it illegal to drain your washer water into the yard? I heard someone say that they did this on the sly. It's only soapy water. What could it hurt? Anyone know? Doing it here should would help my septic system.
K10
posted 5-Aug-2009 1:42pm

Brownyn: I am in the 170's. Is that what Debbie meant since she is in the low 180's now?

Connie: I don't like tea of any kind so I would be having a broth filled day if I were in your shoes. I am glad you were able to get some good sleep.

Bronwyn: Check with a physical therapist about what would be good for you to do. I may have been feeling both snacky and snarky. Right now is better.

For breakfast I had a chicken salad sandwich on Ezekiel bread with mayo and some dill. Then I had some OJ.

Off to empty boxes.
Connie
posted 5-Aug-2009 1:44pm

Bronwyn, I know exactly what you mean about procrastinating and food/snacking. Eating is a settling thing to do. So many wonderful sensations associated with food...the taste, the satisfaction of feeling full, the social aspects, and on and on. I think one of the reasons I had such quick success is when I started NFNS I had a zero social life. That was very intentional. I was several months into the program before I had to attend anything. I was also working across the street and staying so busy I would forget to eat. For the last month or so I feel like I have been around food constantly. Hubby and I went to Chili's for dinner the other night. Not my favorite place, but I agreed to it. It was so hard to find anything NFNS I ended up choosing the least damaging and that was the best I could do. We ran into some friends there. By the time dinner was over I had compromised my diet so much that sharing a dessert with my husband really didn't seem to matter at all.

I think that's the thing that's bothering me so much about this 5 pound gain. In the past I have gained from too many NFNS calories and it has come right off. But these are pounds from S&F and I'm worried they will be harder to get off. I remember our friends that each lost 40 pounds on NFNS and they gained it back because they missed their favorite foods. They are so overweight with health problems. How could that happen? But it did happen and it started one step at a time. I have seen people on tv that lost a lot of weight and then gained it back. So much of NFNS is the mindset and it seems so easy to follow the crowd when I'm out of my house. My sister thinks I'm making too big of a deal about this, maybe I am, but I need to be better prepared for temptation. I was so sure footed once.
Debbie M.
posted 5-Aug-2009 2:31pm

I don't think you are making too big a deal about it. You are right to be worried. Its people like you who nip it in the bud and keep it off. I'm proud of you Connie. You will do it. Don't be like me and gain it all back.
Debbie M.
posted 5-Aug-2009 3:15pm

Girls, I've been stewing about this. I really have an issue with Connies sister trying making her feel silly. It IS a big deal! We have a problem. That is why we are here. We are trying to overcome this "thing" that has ahold on us. Obesity. For what ever reason, maybe different reasons for each of us, we are all here together trying to be successful. We each have our own goals. Sometimes we slip, sometimes we succeed and then slip again. Its OK. But we must be diligent! We are not like normal people who cruise through their whole lives eating whatever they want when ever they want it. We cannot do that and will NEVER be able to do that. 5 pounds? Not a threat? HA you better treat it like its 50 because it will be very quickly if you are not one your toes. Thats what I have to say to your sister Connie.
Now I will get off my soap box. Thank you very much.
Connie
posted 5-Aug-2009 3:18pm

Thanks Debbie...I have to work on my schedule to make NFNS the way I live.

I'm pretty crabby today. My headache is staying with me. And the weirdest thing is happening with my face. When I woke up it was very red and swollen a bit. It still is. I have no idea why. It's an allergic reaction to something, but what? I will be very glad when today is over...and tomorrow too!
Bronwyn
posted 5-Aug-2009 4:51pm

I have to admit I am NOT one of those people who can say...losing weight is easy, it is keeping it off that is hard. I don't find losing or keeping it off easy.....I struggle immensely with either part of the diet process. The thing is the evidence is out there that temporarily dieting doesn't have long lasting results. I believe the statistics are something like 95% of people who lose weight will gain it back. So why is the number so high....I think it is because the people didn't change their life style.....other than temporarily to lose the weight in the first place. So they diet to lose the weight and then go back to old and bad habits.....the ones that created the weight problem in the first place. Connie that is where you are different....you are in the 5% that keep their weight off because you know you can't return to old habits and be successful. I agree 5 lbs. is a big deal......it is too slippery of a slope. You have decided that for you to be successful you have to get flour and sugar out of your diet and keep it out......that has worked really well for you. I don't know where the switch is or how it exactly works.....when we can be 100% dedicated and then start to slip and find it hard to ever be 100% again. Connie you are very good at the total dedication thing.....after tomorrow when things return to normal you will be able to get back to it. Your sister may not have the same mind set about flour and sugar....I personally really think that sugar is my nemisis not particularly flour but the two do go hand in hand frequently.
Bronwyn
posted 5-Aug-2009 4:56pm

Hang in there Connie I think it is almost 5 where you are.....you can be off to bed for the night in a while if you feel like it. Make sure there aren't any things left out to get into tonight.

Shoot still procrastinating the ironing....I have a hard time getting that going when I have so much of it to do.
Debbie M.
posted 5-Aug-2009 5:10pm

I never Iron. I don't buy anything that needs it.
Connie
posted 5-Aug-2009 5:53pm

In 30 minutes I start drinking the magnesium stuff. Then the party really get's started! I was so unbelievably behind in my ironing. I had to sort it into piles (I always iron hardest to easiest) and put the piles on the dinning room table. I knew that if I had to stare at it, I would take care of it. I now have the pile down to one long days worth, but I keep putting it off. Maybe next week.

My extra 5 pounds are a big deal. My sister has never had a weight issue so she doesn't personally understand the struggle. But she is my biggest supporter and doesn't want me to be down. She is he gluten intolerant one, so she does know about changing the way we eat. But she has never had to give up sugar (and she eats plenty of it!) and she can have rice and corn flour.

This is just an "off" time for me. I'm staying out of the kitchen...I'm hungry. Tomorrow I'm going to want to stop for some coffee on the way home and then have lunch here. Rice cake nachos probably. Easy and extremely satisfying. I can't imagine that I will want to watch my calories tomorrow...I will stay NFNS.
Bronwyn
posted 5-Aug-2009 8:46pm

Well Connie it is almost 9:00 where you are the evening is almost over. Hope things are going well. Tomorrow will be a fabulous day to eat NFNS,,,,it will truly be a clean startsmile
Connie
posted 5-Aug-2009 9:08pm

Yep, a clean start! I've been googling around and I have found two NF cake recipes. One orange/almond and the other chocolate with a chocolate topping. I would have to substitute the sugar of course. Then I was looking up ice cream makers. I want one that you don't have to freeze the bowl ahead of time. I am going to enjoy my food tomorrow! I can't believe how food nutty I'm getting! It's only been 1 day of restriction. Our bodies were designed to eat...we just have to control what we give it.
Connie
posted 5-Aug-2009 10:17pm

It is finally 9 here. I've drank all the gunk and I'm about ready to turn in. My face is still red and puffy. Whatever! Night ladies.
kathy
posted 5-Aug-2009 10:28pm

Phew-just caught up on everyone again since July 17. Bronwyn, did your son start seeing the older girl? Maybe it won't last long enough to worry about. I was the older girl in a similar age range a long time ago. (he was 18, and I was 22; I got sick of it after a few weeks)


I can't fix this empty space. sorry.



I read an acid alkaline book-it sounds like the same one you are reading. At least cottage cheese and yogurt are okay. Not much food is okay, according to the author, besides veggies, and I think brown rice. I'm still counting calories. I usually know how much calories are in a certain food.

Debbie M. I have noticed the flour, sugar, gas issue. yuck-it's probably from high calorie stuff like cake and pies.

I have to turn off computer and tv now so I can sleep. You are suppose to have the screens off for 1 hour before bed. Bronwyn, did you ever sit in a dark room for about 5 minutes before you go to bed. That helps me. One of my sons doesn't have a job right now-I just tell myself that he will get a job, and it will all work out.
K10
posted 5-Aug-2009 10:41pm

Connie: I hope everything goes well for you tomorrow. Oh, how good the NFNS food will taste.

I wanted to go walking tonight but my hubby didn't. He was on the road all day. I would have thought he would want to walk then. Maybe I will walk in the morning. I do have to walk to my mailbox though. I don't know how far it is, but it is uphill on the way back to my house.

I made some chicken with lemon juice and feta cheese in the crockpot. It smelled gross in the house, but tasted good. I think I will add more lemon juice next time.

I have a bread question. I bought this 7 grain bread made by Food for Life, the same people as Ezekiel 4:9.

Here are the ingredients of both breads and their other info.

Ezekiel 4:9 has: org sprouted wheat, filtered water, org sprouted barley, org sprouted millet, organic malted barley, org sprouted lentils, organic sprouted soybeans, org sprouted spelt, fresh yeast, org wheat gluten, sea salt.
Total fat/slice: 0.5 g, total carbs: 15g - dietary fiber 3g- sugars 0g

7 Sprouted Grains has: org sprouted wheat, filtered water, org malted barley, org sprouted rye, org sprouted barley, org sprouted oats, org sprouted millet, org sprouted corn, org sprouted brown rice, fresh yeast, org wheat gluten, sea salt.
Total fat/slice: 0.5- total carbs: 15g - dietary fiber 3g- sugars: 1 g.

Do you think the sugar is from the sprouted corn? Would we be able to eat this one? I like how it has oats on the crust and it seems easier to find at my local store. What do you guys think? The bag says The Original Flourless just like Ezek, but it doesn't say low glycemic. HELP!!!

I never iron. Ok, maybe a couple of times per year, like Christmas and Easter. Connie, what clothes do you have to iron? Does your hubby wear dress shirts?

I bought some NS added fudge pops. Only 40 calories/serving for one. I may have another one later, before 9 of course.

I did well with NFNS today. I didn't snack nearly as much. I think some of the snacking was a result of yesterday being the anniversary of my moms death. I always seem to eat more at that time.

Talk to you all later.

K10
posted 5-Aug-2009 10:42pm

Hi Kathy.
Bronwyn
posted 6-Aug-2009 1:41am

Kathy that is one frustrating thing about the akaline/acid diet......there isn't a consensus on what a foods you should eat. My book says no cottage cheese and basically any other dairy product. It isn't as strict on the flours but you can't have wheat or yeast so basically that excludes all breads.

K10 I don't see what difference the either bread would make for the NFNS rules.....neither bread lists sugar of flour.

I guess we have all the wrong clothes because I have tons of ironingfrown All natural fabrics like 100% cottons and linens.

Connie check in with us tomorrow......I can't believe you were researching cake recipes while you fasted smile
Hillda
posted 6-Aug-2009 2:32am

My daughter and I were saying tonight that the last time we ironed anything was Christmas when we ironed a new tablecloth to get the creases out. Tonight we were ironing her new curtain valances when we thought about when the last time was. I sometimes have to touch up a t- shirt that didn't dry just right. I only buy slacks that you can take out of the washer, hang up to dry and they are ready to go the next day. I do have one pair of jeans I sometimes have to touch up a little. I never put my clothes in the dryer. Only sheets,towels, and panties. I hang up bras and shirts and pants on a rack or on an extra tension rod over the bathtub. Linen wrinkles too much for me.When I was married, I used to iron my husband a shirt every morning before work. It seemed like if I hung things in the closet, they just got wrinkled again.
K10
posted 6-Aug-2009 2:58am

I am tired and going to bed now.

I didn't eat after 9, yay me!!
Connie
posted 6-Aug-2009 8:03am

Morning. OMG...I am so thirsty. I'm not even hungry anymore, just really thirsty. Last night went ok. I'm tired but I wanted to be up and moving around for a couple of hours before I leave. My face is still red but much less puffy. Time to get in the shower. I'll try not to drink the water when I rinse!
Sherri
posted 6-Aug-2009 11:10am

Hey everyone - I love everyones updates - it is this strange sense of support and knowing people by just what they type. I am on day 4 NFNS - I wasn't going to disclose my weight - but I was 224 (a few months ago at my hightest ever) - I am now 210 (down 5 since Monday) - I know I said I was only going to weigh in once a week - but I needed some encourangement. I would like to be 149. I don't know if that is realistic for me - I will see as it goes. Just to get out of the 200's will be pretty exciting for me. How sad, I used to be a pretty athletic girl, didn't sit on the sidelines - I'd like to get back there. I went on a walk/sprint yesterday - 2.25 miles - walked mostly, sprinted up hills. Went with my 10 year old son. He is trying to get in better condition for football. It was fun.

Reading through Connie's deal with her sister and all your comments - I think eating has to be a way of life or it won't work. I can't look at this as a diet - that to me means temporary. It has be a lifestyle. It is a struggle. I think I am addicted to sugar - I am better off when it is out of my system.

Thanks to all of you for writing - it really does help.
Debbie M.
posted 6-Aug-2009 11:46am

Sherri,
It's amazing what happens to your body as you get a little time under your belt. A lot of my aches went away with the S&F. I used to wake up in the morning with swollen thumb joints and that is gone now!!! My gut stopped being bloated and the gas went away. What's not to like? Sugar is so evil. We as a society are ruining our bodies with the processed foods so redily available. All the flour products have a huge impact on us almost as bad a sugar. Some even say flour is just as bad. The really sad thing is many poeple have no idea what impact these things have on them. I used to be one of them.

We are way ahead of the game by committing to this way of life. Being total in our program is the best way to go. When you see a bad food you think you want just remember to think "I don't eat that" PERIOD. Off limit foods make us fat and lazy, sick and overweight. We want better for ourselves.

Sherri you will do this. Your body is reacting just as I suspected it would. COngrats on the weight loss. I am so happy for you!! I think your goal is totally realistic. Good job on your exercising with your son.
As you know, Connie and I weigh nearly everyday. I love it because it keeps me accountable. I am in tune with the way my body reacts to my cycle and retaining water from salty foods. Its a great way to judge the impact different food have on your body.
I'm proud of you. Keep up the good work!

184.5 for me today.

Camping again tomorrow. K10 wish you could go. How is it going with your camper? Is it for sale or will you be able to keep it? I hope so.
K10
posted 6-Aug-2009 11:53am

Sherri: Good for you on the walk yesterday. That is awesome. It is good to have your son to exercise with. I was athletic too. I was in diving in high school. I had a divers body. I was 4'10"-4'11" when I was in diving and I weighed 105 pounds. I had muscular legs so I was rather stocky and weighed more than I looked I think. I am now 5' tall and 5 feet wide. Just kidding. It is good that we are all in this together. The community I feel is awesome. Even when I was off the wagon, I was still so encouraged.

Connie: How are you? Is the test over yet?

Have a good day ladies. I need to figure out how to grocery shop without having the stores I am used to using right up the street. I am going to need to drive approx. 30 minutes I think to get to Trader Joe's and Smart and Final. This will be different. I do have a grocery store that is about 12 minutes away that does sell Ezekiel bread at least. I can get milk so much cheaper from Smart and Final though. I guess I will be buying in bulk. I let my friend use my big freezer for now since we have our refrigerator/freezer in the garage. I think this will work out well though. Extra fridge space for milk etc.

Take care.
Bronwyn
posted 6-Aug-2009 11:56am

Sherri you will be thrilled and amazed to find your sugar addictions abating as you continue on the program and avoid eating sugar. It is quite dramatic really. That being said, I have also found that for me I quickly return to my sugar cravings if I start to eat sugar again. The first few slips seem okay and I get brave thinking that I am okay to have a little treat here and there.....that I am now the master of my sugar cravings. I then quickly find myself back to first base....with a treat here, a treat there, here a treat, there a treat and everywhere a treat, treat. The 3 minute chocolate cake is about the only treat I think I will allow myself for some time now....and even that very, very infrequently. I have the added concern of osteoporosis,,,,newly diagnosed. Sugar is very acidic and when your body is too acidic.....which I imagine mine has been for years and years due to my abuse of sugar especially in the form of chocolate......your body leeches calcium from your bones to bring your body back to a more akaline state. Sherri you are doing very well.....you are down 14 lbs. from your top weight....this is going to be a wonderful program for you if you plan and stay on course. It is a lifestyle program not a diet.

Connie are you back.....die you get to quench your thirst yet?

Yeah for you K10....no eating after 9:00!

I didn't weight this morning.....it is still gray, cool and drizzly....not a morning that I want to see my weight going no place. Still haven't started to exercise.....I have to do that. I have a book with a 6 week exercise program for osteoporosis concerns. You are suppose to commit to a straight 6 weeks and not do any other exercise. It isn't the kind of exercise that will aid in weight loss I dont' think it is more educational and conditioning.....so you know the right kind of moves to make to protect your spine. We go away to a wedding next week for a week so I think I will start it when we return. WE are back on the 19th of August and I am going to start to journal my NFNS, no wheat and akaline type diet together with the osteo exercises.
Bronwyn
posted 6-Aug-2009 2:47pm

How funny and how typical of our NFNS family. I just realized that Debbie, K10 and myself were all writing at the same time and all of us were congratulating and supporting Sherri.
kathy
posted 6-Aug-2009 2:51pm

Hi all

K10-did you move over the summer? Do you like your new house? Are you still in California?

A doctor told a friend of mine that she should lose weight. He said it's all about calories in and calories out. I have been counting and recounting calories every day. What ever works. I am maintaining at about 144 lbs. (I'm about 5'6") At approx. 1600 calories per day. But I don't count the calories in veggies.

It's sort of like what you were mulling over (I think you called it rambling, Bronwyn). You just have to get use to certain eating patterns.

I love cottons and linen clothes, too , Bronwyn. It limits clothing purchases. But it's worth it for how I feel.

Hope you can find an exercise program, Bronwyn. I wish you could find an exercise class appropriate for your needs. I love my exercise classes.
K10
posted 6-Aug-2009 6:43pm

Hi Kathy. Yes I did move and it is still in California. I really love the home. We are renting at this time and we have a one year lease. I sure hope that we can stay longer, but if we can't I plan on staying in this area.

Well, I found my destinations without any problems and I managed to make it to 2 additional places. I was also able to find my daughter some red shorts and grey shirts for PE. She is attending a new school and they don't have PE uniforms to buy. I believe it is because of all the cutbacks here in Ca.

I plan on grilling some steaks tonight. I am not much of a BBQer, but I am hoping to learn.

My girls come home tomorrow. I sure hope they have made some friends and that they have had fun. No news is good news.

Connie: How are you?????
Debbie M.
posted 6-Aug-2009 8:45pm

Connie, Oh Connie, Please post darlin.
Yes, Bronwyn, We are quite a group here and I am proud to be associated with you all. You all give me strength and encouragement.

That being said. I wanted to tell you that I have taken a step forward to help my LORD in the quest to find or not find a job. I put an application for a job in on line at the University of Notre Dame, which is near my house. It is a very basic kitchen job. I am really torn as to work or not to work. I think I should stay home but Husband said he would have to get two jobs. We are out of credit and just making it pay check to pay check. Having him work two jobs is just not an option in my opinion. I would be totally depressed to never see him. I think it would be much better with me having a job. I havent had a job in 15 years. If God sees it fit for me to work He will make it happen. Please, if you are so inclinded, say a prays for Gods will to be done. I'm torn as I said but I can definitely see the good in it and am willing to do what has to be done.
Keep up the good work all.
Good night. See ya back here Monday. Hopefully id I have the wearewithall (is that a word?)to restrict enough calories I will have lost some more weight.
Bronwyn
posted 6-Aug-2009 8:48pm

Kathy it is interesting how little food we really need to keep functioning, eh! Really 1600 calories isn't a lot of food and you have to be careful to keep the calories under that. So that is what you eat to maintain your weight....right? You weigh what I wish I weighed and if I had been as diligent as you in keeping control of the calories, who knows I probably would have never had all this stress over weight to deal with in the first place. It is so silly now to me but I used to think 144 was really heavy for me....I delivered my first two babies at 148 and 149. Gee if only I had appreciated being thin when I was thin and not thinking I was heavy. I believe Angie maintains her weight at about 1600 calories as well. Actually we haven't heard from Angie in a long time. I find it is easy to eat really healthy and still have too many calories.....I do need to watch that.
kathy
posted 6-Aug-2009 10:40pm

K10, I have a very good friend who lives in Tehachapi, near Bakersfield and Lancaster. Are you close to that?
Hillda
posted 6-Aug-2009 11:16pm

Debbie M- I think you have the wherewithall to do it! I bought puffed rice cereal and puffed corn cereal today in bags at the health food store for 1.49.

I am going to see Julie and Julia tommorrow night.I will eat healthy before I go! I love Amy Adams.
Hillda
posted 6-Aug-2009 11:17pm

Can anyone see Mars right beside the moon?
Connie
posted 6-Aug-2009 11:28pm

Hello girls. Sorry I'm posting so late, my laptop has a "worm" and it is out of commision so I've had to wait to post. The procedure today was not bad. I wasn't completely cleaned out, WHAAAAAAT!, but my doc seems to think I'm ok. He recommends I do it again before the end of the year, but on my paperwork it says 3 years. So guess which one I'm choosing? Then when I got home my neighbor and friend insisted on pizza. What's a girl to do? Man, I was starving! This morning I weighed 144. Yesterday I weighed 149. Not cleaned out my foot! Anyway if ever I could afford extra calories, it was today. Pizza did not make me happy though. I'm beyond sleepy. My son is telling me my laptop is as "&(*^$%" as a lap top can be. I'm on a desktop now and probably will be for the immediate future. I'm off to bed. Love to all.
Bronwyn
posted 7-Aug-2009 12:08am

Connie glad things went well,,,,,I know I would wait the 3 years but you probably shouldn't. I have never even had the initial exam yet....I know I should.

It is cloudy here....can't see Mars.

I want to see Julie and Julia as well. I would like to see it with my friend Juli who just finished doing her Chef's training.
Debbie M.
posted 7-Aug-2009 8:37am

I love Meryl Streep. I'll be seeing that movie as well.
K10
posted 7-Aug-2009 11:44am

Too bad we can't see Julie and Julia together. That would be so much fun.

Connie: I wouldn't wait the three years either. Just decide when you should do it before the end of the year. I can't believe you weren't "cleaned out" either. Sorry about the problems with the laptop.

Kathy: I am about 2 1/2 to 3 hours from there. Of course, it depends on traffic. If you are ever out this way let me know.

Hi Hilda.

My dinner turned out great. It tasted great and we ate outside. The weather yesterday was great. The full moon was awesome. I didn't notice Mars though, but I don't know much about astronomy.

My girls come home today. I hope they come home on fire for the LORD and not just on fire (sunburned).

Good day ladies.

Connie
posted 7-Aug-2009 11:57am

Morning. I'm going to try and post again. I did one earlier, but it didn't take. 147 this morning. A step in the right direction. Did I tell you guys about my face being all red and swollen and burning? My skin is actually peeling now. Last night my son told me his dog rolled in deisel fuel a couple of days ago. That dog sleeps with me. So last night I stripped the bed and the dog got a bath. We'll see if that's what the problem is. My face is still itchy this morning, but not so red. It looks like I'm going to have to "wipe" my computer. I was up until midnight last night watching my son mess with it. Hopefully we can do that later today.

Good, good job Sherri. Stay NFNS and you will glad you did. And that goes for all of us. I am NFNS today and tomorrow and so on and so forth. Yesterday I found out our little town is getting a farmers market. I am so excited about that. It isn't going to be too far from my house. I'll be able to ride my bike, every morning if I want too. Domestic goddess stuff today. Love you guys!
kathy
posted 7-Aug-2009 12:13pm

At the senior center in town, there's a group called TOPS- Take Off Pounds Sensibly. While I was near the scale a 5'3" person (I asked her height) stepped on the scale and weighed 119. They count calories and exchanges. According to their goal weights I should lose 9 lbs. But-I don't want to start to crave 'forbidden' foods. Those 'exchanges' sound like the forbidden ones. The lady was at least 60, and I always thought age is a good excuse to be a little overweight. I'm 58. But I guess age isn't an excuse.
Bronwyn
posted 7-Aug-2009 3:18pm

Kathy weight isn't always the only indicator of whether you are at the right weight or not. We all have different body builds and muscle certainly weighs more than flab. Unfortunately I have a lot of flab and not enough muscle. I really should weigh much, much less than I do and I should weigh less than 144 as well but I would love to weigh 144. I have a short torso and I think that it is so fortunate to have a long torso....it is so slimming. I think that is one of the reasons I never felt thin at any weight was because I did not accept my body build.....curvy, short torso. I loved long and lean and that is what I wanted to be. Ideally I really think I should weigh about 120. I have no hope of that ever happening. After high school I gained weight and kind of settled at 122-128 and stayed there into my mid 30's. I was 5'7" but I am now 5'6". it was easy too I was not dieting or stressing about food. Once I put on some weight and started to diet......it was like good bye to being thin for me. Kathy do you attend TOPS.

Oh that would be so fun for all of us to go to Julia and Julie. I am going to be in Winnipeg next week.....a little closer to some of you but farther for K10 smile

Be good today girls.....do a body good and avoid all sugars and flours. I weighed today....still totally stalled out. I am worried about how I can eat right on the trip....it is always so much harder when you travel. We are driving and it will be fast food stops on the way out and back....it take too long to stop at restaurants.
kathy
posted 7-Aug-2009 3:54pm

Bronwyn-No, I don't attend TOPS. There is a very interesting Short Story Group starting at the center and I think I'll attend that. Next week the story to be discussed is Poe's Telltale Heart.

I think I won't get any thinner unless I am more active. I lay around a lot after about 2 PM. Not really in bed (yes, sometimes). I just like to stay around the house mostly after about 2 :00. (Not every day). It's okay-I'm healthy so that's most important. Also I know both my mother and grandmother were not really thin as they got older.

Bronwyn, were you more active when you weighed in the 120's? That's probably part of the story. The picture I saw of you on the other website looked fine. Sort of like a thin person's face. Maybe you can count calories on your trip to Winnipeg. What can you get at fast food stops that will be NFNS or low calorie?

I am going to a family cookout in a few hours. There will be tons of food. I'll have a burger(no roll) and a salad. And I might have to taste a SMALL dessert. But that will be it. I'll take a peppermint tea bag too.


K10
posted 7-Aug-2009 4:28pm

Here is my adventure today. I went to Kohls to return, then buy the same thing at a discount they are having today, plus no sales tax. The lady last night said I could do it and so I did. It saved me quite a bit too.

As I was pulling into the parking lot I heard something in my engine. There was a guy ahead of my space, having a cigarette, and he said it sounded like a belt or the fan. I called AAA and they came and towed my car. I had a nice discussion about NASCAR with the driver. I got my car dropped off and then received a ride to my husbands work and drove his truck home. Needless to say, I will be without my car for a few days at least. Please pray it doesn't cost alot of money. I also need to have my power seat fixed yet again. Of course, next week I have 3 or 4 different things I HAVE to do. Wouldn't you know it.

My husband may be borrowing a company car. It was in the shop recently getting body work done on it. Pray we can use that too. What would be great is if we can pick it up tomorrow when we are down at our other house packing things into a trailer.

I should be getting a call anytime now from my girls to come pick them up.

Talk to you soon.
Sherri
posted 7-Aug-2009 5:29pm

Can anyone give me a synopsis of the gang here? I'm getting one of you lives in the mid-west, one in CA (k10) and one in Canada? I would love a summary - so I can keep y'all straight. name, age, kids, where you are from?

Glad to hear everything went well for you Connie with your cleaning. :0)

Thanks for all the encouragemement - I ran again today (hot out there though!) got tired real fast. Am 209.6 today. I'm loving the ounces count. It all counts!! NFNS day 5. Not even any cheating - no flour and no sugars (honey, cane etc.) - surprising how it is slipped into most food.

I am tired - it's been a long week. My best friend just moved away yesterday - I've been sad. I was a little angry with God - had prayed for a best friend for some time since having arrived in Charlotte and finally found a friend who I could laugh with and cry with. THEN she has to move - what's up with that? Anyway - a little bummed out. But not drowning my sorrows in Ben and Jerry's this time. :0)

Have a great weekend - K10 hope you get lots of great stories from your girls - I know those camps and retreats can be life changing!

Sherri

Bronwyn
posted 7-Aug-2009 6:21pm

Sherri for some silly reason I am funny about age and weight. I hate to say either out loud...or in writing. I have occasionally swallowed my silliness and posted my weight on this board. I never say exactly my age....silly me. I am over 50 and under 60....so mid 50's...yikes. The other day I was in a store that asked me if I was over 50 and if so I could get a 10% discount.....no problem with knowing my age theresmile So there you go I am mid fifties, need to lose 60 lbs. to be 140-145. I have 4 children and one grand child. My oldest son has been married just about 6 years and they have my first grand child, a gorgeous little boy who is now 10 months old. My second son married on May 1st of this year. Both my older sons just graduated this year with degrees in Engineering. My daughter is going into her last year in a design program...bachelor of interior design. She hopes to go to Boston next year to do a masters in Interior Design program. It will depend on what she decides about a guy who is wanting her to make different plans. My youngest turned 20 a couple of weeks ago and has no idea what he is doing and isn't overly motivated to work at planning his future.....albeit he is a nice kid but a little frustrating. We are presently planning to have an assessment for A.D.D. organized for him. We live in Canada.....close to Calgary, Alberta and close to the mountains....maybe you have heard of Banff, Alberta. Whew that is probably a little more info than you wanted to know, eh smile
Bronwyn
posted 7-Aug-2009 6:28pm

I found this on a blog.....this woman says cornbread should never be sweet nor have flour in it:


Cornbread

2 cups cornmeal
2 eggs
1-1/4 cups buttermilk or thinned yogurt
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon baking soda
2 tablespoons vegetable oil or butter

Add the oil or butter to an 8-inch or 10-inch iron skillet and set in preheated 450ºF. oven while preparing rest of recipe.

Combine remaining ingredients in medium mixing bowl. Pour hot oil or melted butter from iron skillet into batter, stir quickly to blend then transfer to hot skillet for baking.

Bake 20 minutes at 450ºF.

I think I may make this and have some fresh peaches with it for dinner.....simple. Oh shoot there aren't any veggies there.....maybe a green smoothie. I don't feel like making a full meal.
Bronwyn
posted 7-Aug-2009 6:33pm

Kathy the short stories sound fun. I love my book club and would be happy to also belong to something like a short story group. I haven't read any Poe for a long time. I am well into "The
Guernsey Potato Peel Pie Literary Society".....I think I got the the title a little wrong. If you haven't read it, do! What a delightful book. I love the way she writes and it is my favourite....historical novel.
Bronwyn
posted 7-Aug-2009 6:54pm

note* historical novels are my favourite....this isn't my favourite historical novel smile
Connie
posted 7-Aug-2009 7:44pm

Evening ladies. Sherri, I live in TN, right outside of Memphis. I'm 50 as of last Feb. I have two kids, a son that is 27 and a daughter that is 21. I've been married for 28 years. I started NFNS last June(ish) and weighed 188. I'm down to 140something. Diabetes runs rampant in my family and I was trying to lose weight and get off sugar for health reasons. It has worked very well for me. I was wearing a 14/16 and now wear an 8/10. I haven't exercised (shame on me) but really one day I am going to fit that into my life and it will stay there. That seems to be the way I am, I take on things one at a time, but then I stick with them. Go to the other web site we are on, there are some pictures there. I can never remember how to post the address without getting kicked off this site, but you can scroll back through the posts an find it, or Bronwyn can maybe tell you how to do it.

I'm satisfying my craving for rice cake nachos tonight. Ahhhhhh, rice cake nachos. Life is good!
kathy
posted 7-Aug-2009 9:58pm

Sherri-I think I'm the only New Englander here. I live in Massachusetts. I'm 58, and have 2 sons 26 and 29. Married(I am, my sons aren't, but one has lived with his girlfriend for 4 years). I have to be conscientious about maintaining 144 lbs. Can't just eat everything. I try to eat about 1600 calories per day. I exercise at exercise classes. Also I walk about 20 or 30 mins. if I haven't gone to an exercise class.

I remember when my oldest son was 10. When you ran with him, it reminded me of him.

Sorry your friend moved. My close friend moved away last Sept. I've met lots of nice people at the local sr. center this year.
Bronwyn
posted 8-Aug-2009 12:14am

Kathy do you live close to Boston? My daughter went there on a field trip last year with her interior design program. She loved it so much that she really wants to do grad school there. Of course I have no idea how realistic that is as she would be both out of state and an international student......schooling gets really expensive with those two factors. I have been to New York numerous times and love it but, I have never been to Boston. My oldest brother married a girl from New York city when I was about 11 years old. He moved to N.Y. and my parents and I went to visit there a number of times. I have also gone a few times as an adult. My daughter said she prefers Boston to N.Y. city.

I have lost 3 of my closest friends in the past few years. My best friend who lived really close to me just sold her house the end of June. They haven't settled into anything else in the vicinity and are in fact spending the summer at there summer home 3 to 4 hours away. They hadn't decided what to do for their future.....it is pretty wide open to them at the moment and I don't know where they will end up. It isn't that we aren't friends anymore but they have all had life changing circumstances that have made them less available, live farther away and so forth. I have felt really lonely for the depth of the friendships that we used to have.

Kathy were you ever heavier than you are now or have you always worked hard at maintaining your weight?
K10
posted 8-Aug-2009 12:48am

Sherri:

I live in Southern California. I am the friend who moved away. I do have guilt about it and I am sure your friend does too.

I am married, it will be 20 years in December. I will be 40 in October. I have 2 girls, 15 and 13.

I weighed 179.9 on Tuesday and I probably won't weigh again for a while. The scales mess with my head. I started doing NFNS January 18th 2009 I think it was a Monday of course. I don't know what I would do without Mondays. I stopped drinking Pepsi on January 6th 2009. I would drink approx. 3-6 per day. It varied depending on if I drank a 12 oz. can or a 16.9 oz. bottle or if I had it at a restaurant. I was truly addicted to it.

I struggle with eating at night so I have put a time that I don't want to eat after and 9 p.m. seems to be working, right now at least.

We just moved two weeks ago and the kids are having to adjust to say the least. School starts in a week and we are all looking forward to getting that first day over with.

I picked up my kids and they had a lot of fun and fit in well. I was told they hit each other once. Embarrassing. They weren't the only sibling group and they weren't the only ones who bickered, but I am embarrassed, can you tell? We are making them write letters to the leaders to apologize. They have been somewhat grumpy this evening. We talked to them about their behavior at dinner and we got tears and how they don't like it here and that people are too nice and that this isn't like their old church. Can you say, TIRED????? EMOTIONAL???? FEMALE????? The part that lets you know they aren't exactly right in the head tonight is, people are too nice. I hope they wake up renewed to say the least.

Probably more info than you wanted, but too bad. Just kidding. :) I am feeling snarky, that is a word we have chosen to use. Who used it first, I forget?

Good night ladies.

Hillda
posted 8-Aug-2009 12:49am

Loved the Julie and Julia movie, but it was not NFNS! Eat a nice healthy meal before you go! I think men will like it too.
Hillda
posted 8-Aug-2009 1:30am

If you go on a trip, even a day trip. take your food in a small cooler. So much better than what you will find in a fast food place. Take your own salad dressing. Ezekiel buns, and fruit at least.Pop a bag of popcorn ahead of time. Buy a burger and replace the bun with an Ezekiel bun.

I live in Missouri and will be 60 this month. I am trying to get off diet soda. Decided not to buy anymore.I only drink Diet Rite no sodium, but it must have some bad chemicals in it. Trying to drink more water and watered down juice and tea. Love my Folgers Chocolate Silk coffee. Can only get it at WalMart. I started at size 18 pants, then 16, and have stayed in a 14 for a year. Can't seem to make it down to a 12. I would be happy in a 12.
K10
posted 8-Aug-2009 1:59am

Ladies can you say some prayers for some friends of ours. They are on a missions trip to Guatemala and they found out that some of the people they will be spending time with were just robbed. They weren't physically hurt. A good friend of ours is on the plane as I type.

Another one is, my mother-in-law is having heart by-pass surgery on Monday morning early. She may have up to a quintuple bypass, please pray for her and the family.

Thanks
Connie
posted 8-Aug-2009 11:40am

Morning all. I've been up for awhile, just poking around. My son got my computer back on track. Thank goodness for tech savvy children. My face is tons better. I washed everything yesterday.

K10, I will be praying for your friends and your mother in law. I hope everything comes out very well for all of them. Hilda, hang in there. Your at a plateau. Holding your own for sure, but it sounds like your going to have to add more activity or reduce calories. Whatever you decide, I know you will be successful with it. You are such a "no nonsense" type of gal.

Time to get moving. Later.
K10
posted 8-Aug-2009 11:52am

Hilda: I would love to be in a 12 again. Right now I am pretty much in a 16, but 16W is a little big and regular 16's are too tight. I am still wearing my regular 18's, but they are loose, which was good when I was eating poorly.

I have gotten my regularity back, if you know what I mean. Just for that reason I should always be NFNS.

Youngest has a fever. We were supposed to go down to our other house and load up things, but now Hubby had to go on his own. She is sunburned, not a ton, but I think she may have gotten something from the waterpark on Thursday. My kids always come home from camp messed up. I know 2 gals from my old church whose daughters came home from camp with Swine flu. They are perfectly fine.

Connie: Yay on the computer. I appreciate the prayers.

Good day all.
Connie
posted 8-Aug-2009 12:00pm

Sherri, Diane posted on April 29th with a link to the other site. Bronwyn tried to post the address on this site for you, but when ever we try that this site kicks us off for 24 hours or so. She left a message for me on the other site asking me to wish you all a great weekend and to stay NFNS.

K10, I hope your daughter gets better soon. I'll just add her to my list of prayers!
kathy
posted 8-Aug-2009 12:30pm

K10-That sounds like something my boys would do at that age (hit each other at a church retreat) :) . I can smile about it now. We hadn't done any moving but siblings will act like that. And the teen years were probably the worst ones for their fighting. But then they made separate friends and were apart more. That's probably it-they were together too much during the trip. They'll be fine.

Bronwyn-so much to say and we are on our way to the Julia Child movie! What's the name of the interior decorating program (or college)? Boston is a super place for young adults. I like it better than NYC. I go to both cities occasionally. Boston is cleaner. No dangerous subways as in NYC. I think of it as especially wonderful for young adults (college students, etc.). NYC is so huge, it's not a 'special' place for college students as Boston is.

Winters could be cold, but she is use to that. There is a nice trolley system, and it is said to be a very walkable city. Cambridge is very popular also for her age-group. I think it would be an all-around great experience.

My worst weight was 150 (except for pregnancies). And no matter what I do, I can't get below 142. I have a few pcs. of dark chocolate, daily. (I know that's a weakness for you. Sorry to even utter the word choc...) So that's probably why I can't lose more. Rush, Rush, my hubby's waiting to go to the movie. Let me know about the Boston college!
Connie
posted 8-Aug-2009 10:17pm

I'm calling it a day. Bronwyn still can't get on here, maybe she'll be able to tomorrow. Sweet dreams all!
K10
posted 9-Aug-2009 9:38am

Kid still has a fever and sore throat now. UUGHGH!!!!!!!!!
Sherri
posted 9-Aug-2009 1:38pm

Hey - thanks for all the discriptions - I took notes and hopefully I can keep up. I Got Bronwyn, Connie, Kathy, K10 and Hilda - missing anyone? Browyn, my family is originally from Canada - I have dual citizenship. I have uncle in Vancouver - he is a professer at Simon Frasier University? Anyway, I went to school at Western for a year, blah blah blah, have family all over Canada, blah blah blah - would LOVE to see Calgary some day.

My sister-in-law who has been NFNS for 20 years (seriously, never cheated) - she has a breakfast loaf she makes - it is 2 eggs scrambled, 1/2 c. oatmeal, 1/3 c. dry milk and 6 oz. of blueberries, mix and put in a loaf pan sprayed with Pam for 35 min. at 350. She says she makes a bunch and freezes them and has them every now and then for something different.

K10 - will pray. Just got home from church and went to a meeting for a mission trip to Costa Rico - might go the first week of December with my son. Not sure if it is in the budget - but I think I might act as if and see what happens. I just felt like I was supposed to go. I think it would be good for my son too. To experience other worlds.

Day 6 of NFNS - yesterday was the worst day yet. I crashed in the afternoon - got real tired and grumpy. I bounced back though. Today it's better. Not used to planning meals and being prepared - we eat out a lot.

Sorry about getting Bonwyn kicked off - I will got back to the april entry for the web site.

Need to go tend to a crying child. Enjoy your Sunday ladies.

Sherri
Connie
posted 9-Aug-2009 2:56pm

K10, I hope your daughter is feeling better.

Sherri, eating out is hard on the NFNS plan, not impossible though. If you stick to the rules you'll be ok. Go for the basics, lean protein, rice or potato and then a veggie. It's the temptations that can wear you down. Be vigilant! I like to eat out (who doesn't!) but after a time I know I would weaken. This time of year is great for fresh veggies, something I'm not sure you'll get eating out, except salads. When you find the other web site, post a picture. We love those!

I'm so sleepy today! No time for a nap, but I AM GOING TO BED EARLY TONIGHT OR HEADS WILL ROLL!
Connie
posted 9-Aug-2009 3:02pm

Sherri, I just found out your on the other site! I put myself on the map.
Sherri
posted 9-Aug-2009 3:55pm

do you all just communicate on both?
Sherri
posted 9-Aug-2009 3:57pm

I found the site - I am so bad with pictures - being fat - I think I look terrible in all pictures - I will try. I don't have a lot of me - I am the one mostly taking pictures. Maybe I will skan out Luau pictures from out trip to disney. It is of the whole fam.
Connie
posted 9-Aug-2009 4:25pm

That's a good idea Sherri. We do sometimes communicate on the other site, but mostly we do that on here. I put a "fat" picture and then a "skinnier" picture up.
Sherri
posted 9-Aug-2009 7:09pm

funny - even you fat picture looks pretty skinny to me.
Connie
posted 9-Aug-2009 7:09pm

It's going to be a good night. Chicken on the grill, butternut squash casserole and steamed broccoli. Yum! And everyone took my exclamation that I am going to bed early very well. In other words, they could care less! The kids sleep like rocks (I miss those days!) and husband is going to be gone over night. So I am going to be propped up in bed with Janet Evanovich's latest by 7 and hopefully, lights out by 8. Well see, even if I push it back an hour I'll be in good shape for lot's of bed time. I guess Bronwyn still can't get on. We miss her!
Connie
posted 9-Aug-2009 7:15pm

Those jeans are my size 14's and I grew out of them. I had just started in on size 16 when I started NFNS. My height hid a lot of it...as if that's possible. All I know is my clothing size has dropped in my tops and bottoms and dresses and jackets. Pretty much everywhere. Even my feet. I now need narrow which is a major pain. I carry my weight in my butt and thighs. Serious thighs here no matter what I weight. One day I'm going to exercise.
Sherri
posted 9-Aug-2009 8:52pm

Well, I'm off to watch my HBO Sunday night shows (really the only thing I watch all week) - I officially went one week NFNS tonight. Very excited. I think I am going to make Mondays my official weigh in (although I know I will sneak a peak). Connie, That dinner sounds good - I love to grill. We ordered in - I got the grilled chicken salad. And I had three chicken wings. 50 calories a piece. YIKES. I've been using this application on my itouch called loseit. It is a program where i journal what i eat each day - it keeps how much I weigh and how much i want to loose and gives me daily caloric intake - keeps track of it for me. I kept under my daily allowance each day - it helps keep me in check. I am supposed to loose 2 lbs a week if I stay under. We'll see.

Anyway - goodnight to all. Connie I hope you sleep well.
Connie
posted 9-Aug-2009 9:03pm

I've finally made it to bed, an hour late of course. I underestimated how long dinner and clean up would take. I'm stuffed and sleepy. But there's always time for Janet! I'll limit my reading for an hour. I'm going to go to the other site and say goodnight to Bronwyn. Maybe she'd like to hear from all of us. Not being able to get on this very addicting site is frustrating, she's probably lonely. Night good ladies of NFNS.
K10
posted 9-Aug-2009 10:33pm

Youngest still has a fever. I will be calling the doctor tomorrow morning if she still has one.
Bronwyn
posted 9-Aug-2009 11:47pm

I am back....whew! I don't know who or how it is that we get kicked off for posting address' but we sure are being punished for that, eh!!!!

Thanks for all your posts on the other site.....thanks for keeping in touch.

Sherri you mean you went to Western High in Calgary on 17th Ave......how weird and cool! One of my favourite restaurants is across the street from Western.....Fiore' (well it used to be but it isn't very good any more).

K10...what is it with men losing 5 lbs. in 2 minutes......geesh!!!!

Went to Julia and Julie last night. I liked it but I didn't love it. I think Meryl Streep probably did a fabulous job of portraying Julia Child but, the voice sounded like a Monty Python skit to me.....albeit I am sure it was an accurate portrayal. I actually also didn't find the food that appealing.....stuffed duck and several days of jellied meat broths. I actually liked the character of Julie better. I think it would be fun to do a food blog but of healthy foods....maybe nfnS foods smile

Stood on the scales and just lost did.....didn't even care what I ate today. I won't weigh for a while and I will return to NFnS.....because at least it makes me feel better. My super skinny friend did a kidney cleanse and for goodness sakes.....I can't imagine how she could lose weight but she did.
K10
posted 10-Aug-2009 12:19am

Bronwyn: So glad you are back. I laughed at the Monty Python comment. Maybe we will wait for it to come on video, or DVD whatever we are supposed to say now.

My MIL is have her surgery tomorrow. Please pray for her and the whole family. She is in a top 100 hospital and the best in California fortunately.

Have a good night all.
K10
posted 10-Aug-2009 2:21am

I ate after nine tonight, but it was NFNS and it wasn't a ton of food. Tomorrow night is another night.

Connie
posted 10-Aug-2009 9:18am

Morning girls. Well, I stayed up a little late reading. I couldn't help myself, I was giggling away and it was too much fun.

K10, staying NFNS, even when overdoing it, is still a great big step in the right direction. For some of us I think this eating plan come's in stages. And that's ok. First, embrace NFNS, then watch your calories. But the important part is to become 100% NFNS. I hope your daughter feels better soon. Your MIL is going to feel so much better. Sometimes, when it rains, it pours.

Welcome back Bronwyn.
K10
posted 10-Aug-2009 1:29pm

Taking Youngest to the doctor. Her throat hurts really bad. Her fever seems to be gone at least.

Talk to you all later.
Debbie M.
posted 10-Aug-2009 1:52pm

I wonder if the Doc will do an instant strep test?
K10
posted 10-Aug-2009 2:53pm

I don't know. Where we used to go they still did the old fashioned 48 hour kind. They said that the instant ones weren't accurate. I have no idea what to think.

Her throat really hurts though. I am happy the fever seems to be gone.
Sherri
posted 10-Aug-2009 3:09pm

Brownwyn: welcome back! No, I meant Western University in London Ontario.

K10, I hit those CVS minute clinics (do you have those in CA) all the time. They have diagnosed many a strep throats in our family. Goot luck with that.

I offically made my one week - and probably lost about 6 lbs in my first week - I know the first week is a gift, water weight etc. so I won't be counting on that each week - but 1 to 2 lbs a week sure would be nice. Can't wait until I'm in the 100's again. I did NS two years ago and shed about 30 lbs and of course gained it back and then some. I am down a total of 16 lbs from my start. I went on the treadmill today - 2.5 miles running/walking, kills me. I keep telling myself someday I will enjoy it.
Connie
posted 10-Aug-2009 3:19pm

Go Sherri!
Sherri
posted 10-Aug-2009 3:21pm

thanks Connie!
Debbie M.
posted 10-Aug-2009 3:27pm

Whooo-whooooo Sherri! You go girl!

My doc does the instant strep test but backs it up with a throat culture if it's negative. Many false negetives with that test. My son's instant test was negetive but the culture was positive last year.
Bronwyn
posted 10-Aug-2009 3:54pm

Sherri you had a great first week. You know it works for you. In the past I have lost weight and gained it back as well......that certainly is a strong indicator that I didn't make it a life style change but a temporary thing, eh! This time will be different for you because you are now totally aware of the need for this to be a lifestyle not an on and off program...not a diet. It makes me think of Kathy who is so diligent in her calorie counting......and never been overly heavy. I don't want to believe I have to count calories because I hate to count calories.....but I can't ignore that need anymore. I do a for a few days at a time or even part of a few days and then hate it and stop. I also was trying to eat too many calories....trying to lose weight eating more like Kathy's maintenance calories.

K10....sorry about the strep or at least the very sore throat.....have you sprayed her throat to give some relief??? I have found they can be just as sick with viral throat infections as bacterial and of course the antibiotics do nothing if it is viral. It is always a tough thing to know what to do.........
Sherri
posted 10-Aug-2009 4:23pm

Thanks for the encouragement bronwyn I think the trick for me is going to be having a lot around that I can eat, plan my meals better. My husband and I are doing this together. He will go all day not eating (claims there is no breakfast food for him - hates oatmeal and yogurt and will be sick of eggs in a week). I am trying to plan for the two of us. He gets grumpy. Not fun. It will get easier, it will get easier, just keep swimming, just keep swimming.....
K10
posted 10-Aug-2009 6:59pm

Hi ladies: Well they are treating it like strep. Her tonsils are huge and have puss pockets. She says it feels like when she has had strep. I am a little bummed that they didn't do a culture. Cost-cutting probably. He felt pretty sure it was strep though. I can only hope it isn't viral. We will know in 3 days or so though.

I had one of those golden kiwi today. I like them a lot. Less acidic.

Sherri: Way to go!!!! It is so much easier when your spouse is doing the same thing. My MIL had her surgery and was in the ICU last I heard. I will keep you all posted.
Connie
posted 10-Aug-2009 9:18pm

I'm in bed, getting ready to read and happy because I was NFNS all day. 149 this morning. Egads! Part of my problem is all the cooking I'm doing. I don't know how all of you with kids at home do it. It was much easier for me when I was cooking for two. So, my hats off to everyone who has two meal plans going on in the same house at the same time. Night all.
Debbie M.
posted 10-Aug-2009 9:56pm

Thanks Connie,

For one you would be addressing me! Two plans is what I have been doing. I have stayed NFNS but I haven't lost in a long while. I dipped down to my lowest weight a couple of weigh ins but seem to bounce back up to a couple pounds more. I've got my period now so I'm at 186. GRRRRRR I sure would like to get down in the 170's. I'm trying to be patient but I'm getting a little auntsy.
I suppose it all comes down to caloris. BUT I do not want to discount what NFNS does to my blood sugar. It stabilized me and makes my hunger minimal.
I suppose what I have to do is restrict my potions. That is what I have to do.

Kristin, I hope your daughter is well soon. Super good job Sherri.
Bronwyn
posted 10-Aug-2009 11:07pm

It seems like several of us are coming to the sad conclusion that we have to count calories frown.....shoot! I think though beyond that I have to exercise seriously and consistently. I fall of the NFNS wagon after a time when I don't have any success and then I am back at square one.....not that I ever really got off square one.
Bronwyn
posted 10-Aug-2009 11:10pm

It is true......

For the last few decades, the most popular diets were complex formulas that promised abundant eating with just the right combinations of fat, protein and carbohydrates. Now those regimens are starting to look like exotic mortgages and other risky financing instruments. And just like a reliable savings account, good old calorie counting is coming back into fashion.

“More and more, people are looking at calories in, and calories out,” said Dr. Terry Eagan, a Los Angeles psychiatrist, who for 16 years has helped people with eating disorders and other addictions. “I know some people want something that’s sexy and different and new, but there really isn’t anything new about weight loss.”

Evidence of the calorie’s resurgence is everywhere. The makers of Coca-Cola and M&Ms will soon print calories on the front of packages. Consumers, too, are paying more attention, like the diners who discovered that some meals at Applebee’s had more calories than advertised and filed a class-action suit this fall.

New Yorkers got a harsh dose of calorie reality this summer when restaurants with 15 or more outlets were forced to post the calorie content of food next to the price. The resulting sticker shock has brought parts of a great city to its knees, often to do push-ups.

Debbie M.
posted 11-Aug-2009 1:08am

Eat less, move more.
K10
posted 11-Aug-2009 2:10am

Debbie: That is what we need to do.
Hillda
posted 11-Aug-2009 10:28am

My problem is I like to walk at the mall and shop too much.
Debbie M.
posted 11-Aug-2009 10:39am

I avoid the mall like the plague. The only thing I like there besides all the food, is holding the little puppies.
Bronwyn
posted 11-Aug-2009 11:39am

Could I send you each a very adorable kitten.....I have 4 that need homes and they are the cutest kitties I have ever seen.
Connie
posted 11-Aug-2009 11:57am

Calories, along with NFNS, is the best eating plan. Exercise too. As if I'm ever going to exercise! Maybe when my treadmill get's fixed...if it get's fixed.

One of my daughters first jobs was at a day care. Then she got a job at the mall. It cured her of both! All kids should have to do that. The job at the mall was not in a trendy hip store, it was at Penney's in the infants dept. She has no desire for a baby and hates to shop. I hate it too.

More ironing today. Great day all.
Debbie M.
posted 11-Aug-2009 1:51pm

I love kittens. I'd take one but my husband said if I brought home one more pet he was going to leave. heh
Sherri
posted 11-Aug-2009 3:52pm

I'm telling you - that program on itouch (if you have one) called loose it - is wonderful. You put in you current weight, goal weight and how much you want to loose a week - they give you the calories to eat for the day - you can put in what you eat, like a journal and it tracks for you how many you have left for the day. I LOVE it. IT makes it kind of fun. Like a game. Mind games - that is what it has come down to. I ran 3.1 miles today (well walked really fast, ran some). burned 485 calories though. YIKES.

I had a salad today with dried apples - are they sugar?

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