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Xenadrine RFA-1
SummaryXenadrine RFA-1 was a discontinued Ephedra-based diet pill. DescriptionXenadrine RFA-1 was one of the most popular brands of Ephedra-based diet pills. It's a stimulant that reduces your appetite and causes you to burn more calories as well. But, Ephedra was banned by the FDA after 2003. It was linked to many deaths. It causes your heart rate and blood pressure to go up. So, it can cause heart-attacks in people with weak hearts. Xenadrine RFA-1 is no longer available in the USA. HistoryXenadrine RFA-1 was made by Cytodyne Technologies. Since it was discontinued, they have put an Ephedra-free product on the market, Xenadrine EFX. CriticismEphedrine has been shown to have serious adverse effects, include hypertension (elevated blood pressure), palpitations (rapid heart rate), neurophathy (nerve damage), myopathy (muscle injury), psychosis, stroke, memory loss, heart rate irregularities, insomnia, nervousness, tremors, seizures, heart attacks, and death. Also, studies have shown that Ephedrine-based supplements only provide short-term weight loss. Tags: appetite-suppressant fat-burner pill stimulant supplements Related Diets: Stimerex Xenadrine EFX Nuphedragen Phentramine Phenhermine |
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| Anonymous kisses | posted 6-Nov-2010 10:11am so please keep me posted too!! thanks! |
| Anonymous kisses | posted 6-Nov-2010 10:18am :) |
| Brad | posted 6-Nov-2010 1:28pm I'm doing good. I've lost a total of about 55lbs. When I first found this board 2 years ago I was at about 220lbs. As of this morning I am 165lbs.. Not going to stay on the stack much longer because there isn't anything else I really want or need to lose. I'll still stay on here and check in daily, though. |
| Anonymous916 | posted 6-Nov-2010 3:42pm I'm at 155 as of this morning. I used to be 200. I lost 50 pounds while on the stack. About 2 months ago I stopped stacking just cause I was being lazy plus I stopped eating healthy. I had gained 5 pounds back. Just started eating healthy and stacking again recently so I'm hoping for a little more weight loss. Even before I stopped stacking I seemed to hit a plateu when I hit 147-150 thats when I got discouraged. I'm back at it again and will keep everyone posted. |
| V | posted 7-Nov-2010 10:35pm hi everyone i need some advice, the scale hasn't budged in over a month, but i keep losing inches... i know i shouldnt be complaining but i did a one month bootcamp consisting of lots of strength training and circuit training, and although i saw a difference in my clothes and how they fit on me... the scale claims ive gained a few lbs. its just frustrating. i've decided to switch up my E in my ECA... ive been doing bronkaid but have bought primatene out of curiosity. ive tried to do some research on ephedrine sulfate vs. the HCL (including Brad and others experience with it on this board a few years back) to figure out if there is a difference as some react differently to each...i dont trust the kaizen brand HCL or pure ma huang from ephedra outlet everyone has tried because when you order online, you can never be sure of what you're actually getting. Also, based on what ive read - just because a product says ephedrine alkaloids doesn't mean it contains the correct alkaloid (there are 6, 5 of which out of the group alkaloids have no effect on weightloss) and apparently herbal formulas are just as unreliable because you can never be sure of the amount of ephedrine you are getting... (hence why he pure ma huang made no difference for me) so, buying an HCL product that is sold in stores seems more reliable despite the guaf aspect everyone seems to be so worried about (still not sure how to approach that issue, guess i'll just have to deal)... ANYWAYS, what are everyones thoughts? as of tomorrow i'm going to start doing just straight cardio... no more strength training, to see if it makes a difference. the HCL in primatene is technically stronger (25 mg of sulfate = 19.5 ephedrine, 25 mg of HCL = 20. 5 ephedrine). but up until recently i was taking two bronkaids, 1 no doz and 1 baby aspirin 2X a day, equaling 100 mg of ephedrine a day (sometimes, i couldn't always handle the amount only because it made me a little too wired)... am i to take up to EIGHT primatenes (at 12.5 mg of HCL per pill) to make sure the dosage is comparable to the bronkaid?? HELP, thoughts? |
| Anonymous kisses | posted 8-Nov-2010 10:17am @v Strength training causes you to build muscles therefor putting on muscle weight. Its not a negative thing but can screw with you if your watching the scale. If I was you I would wait until I get down to my goal weight before I start and type of weight lifting. :) (Just like you thought) |
| Anonymous kisses | posted 8-Nov-2010 10:18am How many boxes of bronkaid can you buy at once and how many in what time period? 249.6! |
| Anonymous kisses | posted 8-Nov-2010 10:19am (at pharmacy)? |
| Brad | posted 8-Nov-2010 10:51am Depends what state you live in. In California at CVS, you can only buy one box at a time and I think the limit is a couple of grams total in a 30 day period. I buy one box of 60 a week and have never had a problem. |
| Anonymous kisses | posted 8-Nov-2010 11:42am hmmm... I live in nc. I bought one box of 24 last week so if I buy another one this week I quess it should be ok. |
| Anonymous kisses | posted 8-Nov-2010 2:23pm I go to work very early and dont get a chance to work out until late. (by then all my energy is gone) Is it ok to take a 5 hr for my work out or is that too much caffine?? |
| Brad | posted 8-Nov-2010 4:33pm Only you can answer that. You need to trust your body and how it reacts. If you have a feeling that taking an energy drink on top of the eca stack is too much, it probably is. I personally would not recommend you do that. But, that's coming from someone who is taking twice the normal dose of Bronkaid. Just listen to your body and do what feels right. |
| Kel | posted 9-Nov-2010 11:38am Currently, I have lost a total of 37.2 lbs which puts me at 147.2 lbs. I'm still religiously taking 2 doses a day of this ECA stack. I have noticed a slower rate of losing weight (been on it since Apr. 24th) but the few times I have tried taking 3 doses a day I don't really like how I feel. Recently I was looking at pictures of when I was in high school (at my goal weight of 115-125 lbs) and realized I don't actually like how I look at that weight. I may increase my goal weight to 130 lbs. Either way, I have another 15-30 lbs to lose. |
| Anonymous916 | posted 9-Nov-2010 7:43pm @Kel ~ I'm so excited for you about your weight loss. I noticed the same issue about weight coming off slower after awhile. If you come across anything that helps it accelerate let me know cause I've been stuck at the same weight for what seems like forever now. |
| V | posted 9-Nov-2010 9:07pm hi you guys... updates... as i am now officially an ECA expert... i have been doing tons and tons of reading. everything from types of ephedrine (sulfate, hcl, herbal ephedra) to dosing to what body builders are using to supplement their stacks (yohimbe, green tea, etc) to what others do for their exercising and cycling.... as you all know i switched to primatene and so far so good, got my boost and an accelerated weight loss. i don't take nearly as much hcl as i did sulfate (couldnt handle 3 doses of 25 mg and i was taking up to 100 mg of sulfate and was fine) so clearly for me, the HCL has been more potent. i was worried about cycling however, as i have read many different things: some say cycling is necessary, but some "medical' studies have shown it isn't necessary and that although you stop feeling the effects the thermogenisis is still there... and so i didn't know what to think or do considering that A - none of us want to throw our money away and continue taking the stack if it is no longer working for us and our tolerance has risen, and B - if we still have some weight to lose, i know for myself, i didn't want to cycle off... SO Anonymous916 - here is an idea for you to accelerate your weight loss but continue taking the stack, this should give you an extra oomph without having to cycle off... i read in various places, that when people get off the stack for their off time, they take benadryl to counteract the effects. this should essentially bring back your metabolism to its original state and so when you begin to take the stack again, its as though you've never taken it and BAM you're feeling the original feelings everyone experiences in their first few weeks of use. three weeks ago, i was told to buy claritin (which is also an antihistamine) to help me with my allergies at night, and during the week i took it i noticed that my ECA doses were hitting me harder (and this was with the sulfate that i had become worried was no longer working for me) and i couldnt figure out why... so how do the two stories intertwine? i have read that if you choose to continue taking the stack, but hope to avoid building a tolerance to it, you are to take an antihistamine for two or three nights a week. overnight, your metabolism begins to slow a little, also allowing you to sleep if in case you have taken a dose too close to bed time (which sometimes happens with me) , the next day you first dose hits you harder because the antihistamine has countered its effects during the night. this prevents a continuous building of tolerance and allows you to stay on the stack for as long as you need without having to up your doses to dangerous amounts... i've decided to do this 2 nights a week... as well as use an albuetrol asthma inhaler (for my third dose) that was prescribed to me due to my allergies that have literally left me coughing up my lungs. because i am using two (although safely, not at the same time, and i made sure to ask a pharmacist before i chose to use both) methods of boosting my metabolism together... and because i am worried about building a tolerance and dealing with issues down the road, i am going to utilize this little fact, knowing it has helped me before... i would try it 916... and if it doesn't help then okay, but at least give it a shot |
| Anonymous kisses | posted 10-Nov-2010 7:20am 248.2! :) |
| Jitalia623 | posted 10-Nov-2010 9:23am Hi Everyone! Great site! ok, so I used origianl xenedrene formula when it was real back in 2000. Lost A LOT of weight from July to November (at least 40lbs) and even more after that. Not sure how much bc I don't weigh myself. Bc over the past 10 years I have slowly gained it all back. Since it was banned I have always searched for something similar and never found it. Just last week I ordered Zenolean with ephedrine. But I didn't want to wait for it so I also decided to buy bronkaid, nodoz, asprin to use till I get it. I started on Sunday 10/7, today is 10/10. I have had great energy. And although I don't weigh myself, just use my clothes and how I feel to determine weight loss I feel great and feel like I have lost some weight (3 days in), hopefully its not just wishfull thinking! I'm going to go try on my jeans later and see if they feel any different...will let you know the results. My question is has anyone tried zenolean or did I waste my $$? |
| V | posted 10-Nov-2010 2:04pm Jitalia623 - I believe someone on this forum already tried it a while back... but when it came time to report the weight loss there wasn't much to report. The ingredients in it truly are great... synephrine and green tea to name especially. however different things work for different people, and stacks i have purchased pail in comparison to the stacks i make myself because you never know if what your getting is how much they claim is in the pill or if it even is what they claim... i tend to stay away from ordering online because i dont trust websites... also, the ephedra in it is herbal... basically this can either be hit or miss with you. either youll love it and it will work, or it wont but youll never know until you try. does the website offer a money back guarantee?? if so, then thats a good sign. and use it for a week and see your results...and if u hate it send it back honestly, your bronkaid, nodoz, aspirin stack... i am pretty sure you'll see great results from that. its up to you to decide |
| Jitalia623 | posted 10-Nov-2010 4:10pm Thanks V! I am going to use the ECA until I run out, evaluate my results, then prob cycle on to the zenolean. But right now I am happy so far with the ECA. Wish me luck & I will update the site with my results. |
| Anonymous kisses | posted 11-Nov-2010 8:49am 247.6! :) |
| Anonymous | posted 11-Nov-2010 7:32pm Thanks for the info V.... If I end up trying it I'll let you know how it goes. |
| anonymous | posted 14-Nov-2010 9:13pm Hey! Where is everyone's updates?? This site is so great, lets keep it going:) |
| Jas | posted 15-Nov-2010 7:47am Hi everyone, I'm so glad that I found this forum. You guys are a great resource, and very inspiring! I took the original Xenadrine RFA-1 back in 2001-2002 and lost 35 pounds. I'm female, 5'9", and went down from 168 to 133. I had a swimsuit model body, and was so happy. I maintained that for several years, then I quit smoking in 2004, and settled in around 145. I was happy enough with that. I was thin & shapely, and I didn't mind the weight gain so much because I was so much healthier and stronger from quitting smoking (I had met my husband & we wanted to start having kids, so I did NOT want to be smoking any more, or ever again). I had my first child in 2006 & had no problem losing the baby weight and getting back down to 145 while taking Wellbutrin for postpartum depression. However, I just had my second baby in April 2010, and I had gained more weight this time around from the fertility drugs I took to get pregnant. I have been taking Wellbutrin for the past 3 months, but I have plateaued at 170, and really want to lost these last 25 pounds by May 2011. So, I just started the ECA stack with Bronkaid this weekend (I stopped the Wellbutrin because they are contraindicated). So far I have just lost 1 pound. I am OK with the weight loss coming slow & steady, as long as it does come off! I love to work out, but with two kids under 4, time to work out is harder to come by. Still, I find at least 30 minutes to work out 5 days a week (mostly jogging) so hopefully that will help with the loss. The best thing that I have felt this weekend with the ECA stack is that I have NO appetite. I have been forcing myself to eat, whereas usually I am an all-day grazer. I am also going to try to go low-carb. This stack doesn't feel quite as great as the old Xenadrine, but even if it's only half as effective that's better than nothing. I live in the DC area, so if any of you guys want to march on Washington to bring back ephedra alkaloids, I'm game ;) I will post my progress & let you guys know if the stack works for me. I love reading your success stories, so keep it up! |
| V | posted 15-Nov-2010 5:43pm Jas, welcome to the forum. it is by far the best with the most supportive people you will ever meet. I feel like every other forum is judgmental and this one isn't! Does your doc know you stopped taking wellbutrin? Yes the bronkaid stack contradicts this medicine, but don't you think it's important you stay on it for your mental health? have you discussed alternatives with your doc so you can continue taking something that will help but won't contradict with the stack? be careful don't get too stuck on the scale - don't make that mistake like i did, watch your clothes. also, i didn't notice a substantial weight loss till a month in... and neither did anyone else around me You may have to experiment... i take primatene and love it good luck! |
| AnonymousKISSES | posted 18-Nov-2010 12:38pm IM WONDERING IF MY ANTIDEPRESSANT IS INTERFERING WITH THE STACK? I TAKING PRISTIQ. HELP????? |
| AnonymousKISSES | posted 18-Nov-2010 12:39pm HELP PLEASE! |
| anonymous | posted 18-Nov-2010 2:13pm If I want to increase my stack dosage, how should I do it. Right now I am taking 3 times a day - (1) bronkaid, (1) baby asprin, (1) nodoz. Thanks:) |
| Brad | posted 18-Nov-2010 4:05pm @AnonymousKISSES That's a question you need to ask your doctor. No one on here is qualified to give you advice regarding your doctor prescribed medications. I can't stress enough that you need to speak to a doctor about that. @Anonymous Always start slow when increasing. If I was in your shoes, I would double my dosage during the middle of the day (2 bronkaid / 2 aspirin / 1 nodoz). If that feels good for you, keep that going for a couple of days and then bump up your first dose of the day to the same. Repeat that process until you have increased all 3 doses. |
| AnonymousKISSES | posted 19-Nov-2010 9:54am Thanks Brad! The only reason that Im a taking the anti depressant still is because the side effects are so bad. Because it doesnt help with my depression!!(I feel like is holding me hostage!) Im depressed because Im FAT and lossing weight is what has alway cured that. :) |
| Brad | posted 19-Nov-2010 4:06pm I wish I or someone else on here could give you that advice. I know it's frustrating, but you really should consult your doctor. Especially since you are taking the ECA stack. |
| anonymous | posted 21-Nov-2010 3:49pm I have 8mg ephindrine, so do I just take enough to equal the 25 mg. So (3) ephidrine, (1) baby asprin, (1) nodoz? |
| anonymous | posted 21-Nov-2010 7:33pm oops...spelled it wrong..i meant ephedrine.. |
| riley | posted 29-Nov-2010 12:34am Hi all, Was so happy to come across this website. I have spent the last couple hours reading it and am thrilled that people have come up with a semi-substitute for Xenadrine. I have tried losing weight by dieting and exercise over the years, and have come to discover that I have a woefully slow metabolism, which is no great surprise. Seriously, I smell food and gain weight. I tried Xenadrine in 2001, did no exercise whatsoever and managed to lose about 25 to 30 lbs. at that time. I must say that I ate better as a result of not having as many cravings. We had a short love affair, Xenadrine and I. <sigh> Oh, how I long for it again! Since seeing these posts, I have just ordered the No Doz, aspirin and Bronkaid. I really want to lose about 40-50 lbs...currently at about 200. Anyway, can't wait to give it a shot. Best of luck to all and thanks again! |
| Shelby | posted 29-Nov-2010 12:11pm Hi everyone! I'm new to this site and I'm tempted to try the ECA stack, but I'm just curious, has this stack caused anyone to have constipation or increased bowel movements, regardless if you're eating healthy or not? Back when Xenadrine w/ Ephedra was legal, I was on that AND a low-carb diet and I exercised and I lost over 80lbs...the Xenadrine caused me to have bowel movements (not diarhhea) everyday and that helped tremendously, plus the increased energy and appetite suppressant. It would be great if anyone who is on the stack right now, can let me know how their experience is going. |
| V | posted 29-Nov-2010 3:55pm Shelby - I find that bowel movements should remain pretty consistent and at least once or twice a day (which is technically healthy) when on the stack, moreso because you're subconsciously eating better and therefore food passes as it should. in the past, when i was about 20 lbs heavier prior to the stack, i would eat too much and rarely went to the bathroom. many people will tell you that part of your weight is the food stuck in your colon/intestines causing someone to be as much as 10 lbs heavier if there's waste stuck for up to a couple of months. this is precisely why some diets start off with a master cleanse, then proceed to eating healthy. eating well not only helps you lose weight, but makes you feel light and produces normal bowel movements that don't inhibit weightloss. |
| Shelby | posted 29-Nov-2010 5:05pm V - Thank you for that info! |
| anonymous | posted 30-Nov-2010 2:24pm I've been on the stack for 3 weeks with no signifigant weight loss. I don't weigh myself just judge by how my clothes fit. For the first 2 weeks I took (1) Caffine pill, (1) asprin, (1) bronkaid 3x a day. The 3rd week I started to increase: morning - (1) Caffine pill, (1) asprin, (1) bronkaid: afternoon & night (1) asprin, (1) Caffine pill, (2) bronkaid. I haven't had much of an appetite so I eat a snack in the moring and one (healthy) meal a day usually dinner. I also drink LOTS of water. I don't live a seditary lifestyle but I will start today to get on the treadmill for about 1/2 hour - 1 hour to see if that changes anything. I would like to lose about 40libs. Any suggestions?? |
| V | posted 1-Dec-2010 9:49pm Shelby - your welcome! anonymous - don't get discouraged. i think i didn't start to really lose until one month in. even now, i lose very very very slowly. all i can suggest is you be patient. or try other forms of ephedrine... like primatene or pure hcl which you can order off line. I've been on the stack since July - that's 5 months as of today. I didn't notice a weightloss till the middle of August. As of today i'm down 20 lbs. DO NOT increase your dose just because your not seeing your results as quickly as you like / you're not feeling the affects as strongly. it is still working, increase VERY VERY SLOWLY. give it some more time... we aren't all as lucky as Brad who loses a lb a day haha. and if you're a female... expect the weightloss to be slower, it just how it is. |
| Anonymous | posted 2-Dec-2010 12:11am Shelby ~ V's right when it comes to all the food stuck in our intestines. Especially if you dont eat healthy a lot of the food gets stuck to the walls of your intestine and doesnt pass through. One option that I've recently tried is colonics. I did the first one a few months ago to help cleanse my body and jumpstart my weightloss. On my first colonic I weighed myself before and after out of curiosity and had lost 2 pounds! That was 2 pounds of poo! Colonics are not a means of weightloss at all but it does stimulate your colon to contract which pushes the poo through your intestine. That way you dont have a build up of poo for days, weeks, months or years. For me, it makes my stomach feel very light and encourages me to eat healthy. |
| Anonymous | posted 10-Dec-2010 9:43am Anyone still using the stack? Any results to update us with? Brad, how's it going? Thanks |
| Brad | posted 10-Dec-2010 3:59pm I'm still stacking. I haven't increased my dosage or anything, but I feel I have definitely hit my plateau. I've been hovering right around 165lbs for over a month now, but I'm actually really satisfied with where I'm at. Starting next week I am going to start decreasing my dosage over about 10 days and completely stop. I'll start again in a couple of months if I feel I need to. I still check in here on a daily basis, so I read everyones posts. Just because I'm not posting, it doesn't mean I'm not here. I just don't have anything significant to share. But I will still answer questions the best I can when someone has them. :) |
| Preston | posted 12-Dec-2010 2:55pm Glad to hear everyone is doing well. I just glanced at a comment about bowel movements, and thought I'd share my insight. I guess I'm naturally one of those people that can go a a few days without having bowel movements, but when I'm on the stack, I use the bathroom 2-4 times a day. It's a great feeling, honestly. I weigh 228lbs as of this morning, and have been stacking the last week to lose what I had gained back all the time I hadn't stacked (6lbs in a week and a half). I met a woman who's pretty much given me the motivation to get that beach body back, haha. Starting back at the gym tomorrow, and I'll do my best to try and be there once a day. I don't feel the crazy energy I used to while I was stacking, but it definitely peps me up throughout the day. The appetite suppression is still incredible, though! I can easily eat no more than a footlong from Subway a day, and not feel hungry. If any of you are like me, though, and don't eat breakfast, you need to start! I never thought I'd see the day I had to force myself to eat food, haha. Cheers to the new 'us' next year! |
| Anonymous | posted 22-Dec-2010 11:08pm Do you ever increase the no-doz? |
| Anonymouskee | posted 24-Dec-2010 4:05pm Hi Everyone: I used to take the original version of Xenadrine back in 2000 and lost a total of 100lbs in less than a year. Fortunately for me, I managed to keep the weight off for 9 years. I recently had a baby and would love to lose the 45lbs that I've gained. I've tried the new Xenadrine, Alli and Stacker 2, but have not managed to lose any weight. I would like to take the Xenadrine/Ma Huang combo that I've read about in the above posts. Should I take the clinical version of Xenadrine along with pure Ma Haung (2 Xenadrine to 1 Ma Huang)? If the clinical version is not the version I should be taking, please let me know. Also, I used to take 2 Xenadrine in the early AM and 2 around noon. I didn't take it around 5 because it would keep me up at night. Should I stick to that dosage? Thanks for your help. |
| Brad | posted 24-Dec-2010 6:20pm @Anonymous I had increased my no-doz to 3 at a time towards the end of my cycle, but you should only do what feels comfortable to you personally. @Anonymouskee Opinions may vary on here, but I would not recommend anything other than Bronkaid+Caffeine+Aspirin. I have tried every stack mentioned on this board and that is the only one that gave me the same results that the original Xenadrine did. Plus, it's much cheaper. |
| Brad | posted 24-Dec-2010 6:20pm PS. I hope everyone has a great Christmas! |
| Anonymouskee | posted 25-Dec-2010 10:14am Thanks for the advice, Brad. Where can I purchase the Bronkaid and Caffaine? Are they in pill form? Does it matter which aspirin I purchase? What dosage should I take? |
| Brad | posted 25-Dec-2010 1:12pm @ Anonymouskee I don't know where you live, but if you have a CVS Pharmacy close by, they should have Bronkaid there. Caffeine pills can be purchased at pretty much any grocery store, pharmacy, etc. Aspirin will vary on opinion. I take adult 325mg aspirin, but others only take the 81mg. Everything you need to know should be on this board for you already. :) |
| Anonymouskee | posted 26-Dec-2010 6:55pm Should I purchase Bronkaid with HCL or Sulfate? |
| Brad | posted 26-Dec-2010 9:23pm As far as I know Bronkaid is only offered in sulfate. |
| Brad | posted 11-Jan-2011 3:03am How's everyone doing? |
| Anonymous | posted 17-Jan-2011 1:28pm Hi Everyone! Hope you're all doing well & having a great new year so far:) I have just swiched from a bronkaid ECA stack to pure ephidrine that I bought online. The pills come in 8mg, so I have to take 3 at a time to =24mg. Has anyone done the pure ephidrine, I am a little nervous because the directions say not to exceed 4 pills in one day..and I am taking 9 a day (3-3x a day). I am hoping that this works better. I didn't have results like the old xenodrene while on the bronkaid. Brad I wish I could lose 1lb a day like you:) |
| Brad | posted 19-Jan-2011 12:27am @Anonymous Everyones body reacts differently. Bronkaid worked wonders for me. I dropped over 40lbs in about 8 months using it and stopped taking it when I hit 163lbs. Don't give up. What doesn't work for one person might work for the next. I tried the pure ephedrine HCL tablets in the very beginning and they didn't do anything for me. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they work for you. :) |
| Anonymous | posted 24-Jan-2011 11:16pm I also tried the hcl 8mg pills in the begining and it didnt work well for me. All my weightloss has been with the bronkaid stack |
| Anonymous | posted 25-Jan-2011 8:21pm I would like to know where can I buy the real ephedra, which site is legit, I was looking at thatswholesale.com, but my God that Paul guy is so rude you cannot even ask a question that he gets so defensive and it got me thinking if I want to buy from them. Thank you |
| Anonymouskee | posted 25-Jan-2011 9:08pm I've been taking the Bronkaid/NoDoz/baby aspirin stack twice a day for about a month now and have lost 10lbs. I know that it's due to the stack because of my constant loss of appetite and disinterest in food. I'm almost finished with my first box of Bronkaid and I've noticed that the decreased appetite is the only effect that I'm experiencing now- no jitters, elevated heart rateor high energy. I think my body has become accustomed to the dosage. Brad, at what point do I cycle off for a week or two and is it wise to up my dosage to 3x a day? I am noticeably thinner and would love to keep dropping pounds. |
| Rojo | posted 26-Jan-2011 8:32pm Do any of you have experience ordering Ephedrine HCL from Canada ? I live in the US and would like to know which companies will ship to me. Has anyone here done business with fitshop.ca ? I've heard good things, but want to make sure... |
| V | posted 27-Jan-2011 3:37pm Thatswholesale.com is a site I've ordered off of before... honestly, I never finished the two bottles I bought because I had serious doubts as to what it was they actually sent me. I believe the supplements were nothing more than a CRAPLOAD of caffeine.. like everyone else, the ECA with Bronkaid and Primatene has helped me the most. Just because the side effects have decreased DOES NOT MEAN the effects have worn off. SLOWLY up the dose, but know your limit, as I have made the mistake of taking more because I thought I could handle it and went 24 hours without sleeping. According to various websites, all of which at some point have been referenced by both myself and Brad, it has been stated that the effects continue to work for a period of time depending on the individual, even after you stop taking the stack, especially if you are continuing to watch what you eat.. for example... for 3 weeks I only took one primatene (12.5 HCL) every once in a while if I thought I needed it... no effects, but continued to drop (and this was around XMAS)... when I went back on the stack last week to drop a few extra lbs before my vacation I was smacked in the face with a dosage I thought I could handle. I basically started from scratch... and I had been taking the stack for 5 months prior non stop. It really depends on the person: listen to your body, up the dose slowly, and cycle off when you feel it is right... but again NO SIDE EFFECTS DOES NOT MEAN THE EFFECTS HAVE WORN OFF, so please be careful Rojo - please reference HCL bought from Canada as it has been discussed numerous times throughout this forum... never had experience with fitshop.ca. personally, i won't ever buy online again... you never know what you can get. but just because one thing worked for me, doesn't mean it will for others and vice versa... good luck everyone |
| Anonymous | posted 1-Feb-2011 9:47am Anyone have experience on the eca stack and drinking? I have done it a few times and it making me violently vomit at the end of the night. I attribute this to the stack but it cld be a conincidence?? |
| Brad | posted 1-Feb-2011 10:40am @Anonymous I rarely ever drink, so I can't say from personal experience, but I wouldn't think it would be a good combination for a couple of reasons. 1. You probably aren't eating as much, so you may have had an empty stomach which ends up making it harder for your body to break down the alcohol. You'll get drunk faster and have a much better chance of ending up with a hangover. 2. You're mixing a very strong upper (ECA Stack) with a very strong downer (alcohol). This would be similar to drinking Red Bull and Vodka. Your body is being pulled in two different directions (faster and slower). |
| Brad | posted 1-Feb-2011 10:45am Another thing I thought of that relates to the first part about having an empty stomach is that, depending on what kind of alcohol you drank, your blood sugar may have been too high. Alcohol like whiskey is notorious for being turned into large amounts of sugar in the blood. My mother used to get really sick whenever she would drink Coke and whiskey. Her body couldn't handle the amount of sugar that was put into her blood and she would end up vomiting, having cold sweats and severe stomach cramps. |
| Anonymous | posted 1-Feb-2011 1:48pm Thanks Brad! Your comments make sense. BTW, just noticed all my spelling and grammar mistakes...oops:) |
| Brad | posted 1-Feb-2011 3:56pm No problem! And no need to apologize for grammar and typos. No one's judging you here. :) |
| Kel | posted 10-Feb-2011 1:51pm -ECA Start date: Apr 24, 2010 -Start weight: 184.4 (size 15/16) -Current weight: 141.8 (size 8/9) -Total weight loss: 42.6 -Goal weight: 130 11.8 more pounds to go! Super stoked summer is around the corner here! I swear by this stack (I'm sure my lack of posts don't show this); the availability of ingredients, the cost point, the results... what is there not to love?! |
| Anonymous | posted 10-Feb-2011 2:03pm That's great Kel! Congratulations!! Which stack are you on and how do you take it? I just switched to primitine from the bronkaid. The Bronkaid made me feel a little sick. |
| Anonymous | posted 13-Feb-2011 10:32am I found a bottle of xenadrine while cleaning out a cabinet. Any suggests to find out if it is the "good" kind or the kind that doesn't work. It doesn't say anything about ephedrine in it. Thanks;) |
| Brad | posted 14-Feb-2011 4:08pm @Anonymous Look at the ingredients on the bottle and see if anywhere it says that it contains Ma Huang or ephedrine. Even if by some chance you did have a bottle of the original formula, I'm sure the half-life has passed and probably wouldn't be of much use. |
| Kel | posted 16-Feb-2011 10:02am @Anonymous 2 daily doses of: -2x Bronkaid -1x 81mg Aspirin -1x No Doz Occasionally, I'll do 3 doses in a day. |
| Anonymouskee | posted 16-Feb-2011 5:10pm How can you handle taking that dosage, Kel? I take 1bronkaid/1nodoz/1baby aspirin in the am and 2 bronkaid, 2 baby aspirin, 1 nodoz in the afternoon and I can barely stay awake after 3pm. I'm afraid that I will be a complete vegetable if I increase my dosage. Does the stack make you tired at all? |
| Kel | posted 17-Feb-2011 10:49am @ Anonymouskee From the start I've been taking this dosage; I got my dosage information from this blog. Are you asking how am I awake or can I sleep? I remain to have normal sleeping habits, 8 hrs a night. Sometimes, I even take a nap around 5pm. |
| Anonymouskee | posted 18-Feb-2011 9:02am @ Kel Is that dosage making you tired during the day? With my current dosage, my body shutdowns around 3pm. This used to happen to me with old Xenadrine as well. I would be full of energy in the morning, workout for 2 hours and crash or shutdown about 1pm. I would spend the entire day sleeping. Does anyone else have this problem taking the stack? |
| Brad | posted 18-Feb-2011 4:55pm @Anonymouskee It used to make me really tired during the last half of the day, but that went away after I got used to it. Your heart is working 2 to 3 times harder than it's normal rate when you're on the stack, so your body becomes fatigued much quick than if you weren't taking it at all. It's a completely normal side effect when taking an ECA stack. |
| Anonymous | posted 19-Feb-2011 12:35pm I'm glad you all mentioned that you sleep fine on the stack. I find myself so tired and thought it was weird bc I was taking so much no doz! But what Brad said makes sense - that the heart is working harder so we get tired. Thanks. Love this site! |
| Preston | posted 1-Mar-2011 9:55pm Just checking in with everyone to see some progress reports. How's everyone doing with their stacking? I'm seeing some great results since I started it again two weeks ago. |
| Sherri | posted 3-Mar-2011 7:13pm Hello all! I spent the last couple of hours reading this.. very helpful as well as interesting! Amazing it has lasted this long! I just wanted to give my story.. it may help someone out! I am a 5'5'' 22 year old female who has struggled with my weight for quite sometime. I started the ECA stack back in September. My starting weight was 197lbs. I joined the gym & dropped to a 1200 calorie a day diet. While at the gym I do an hour of cardio as well as alternate upper and lower body resistance once weekly. I have stuck (minus allowing myself one "cheat" day a week) to the diet and exercise regimen combined with the ECA stack; my current weight is 145lbs. I started in a size 14 and am currently in a size 6. (And as for most woman, we stress about what the tag in our jeans says). I am a RN so I know how difficult it is to eat healthy, I work 12 hour shifts with only a 30minute lunch & who knows when that will come; therefore, I had to learn to stop eating out of the vending machines. What has worked for me is I pack all kinds of healthy snacks.. and I eat every three hours (on the run- protein bars, fruit, veggies)! I hope this gives someone motivation! If I can do it, then ANYONE can! You just have to make up your mind that losing weight is really what you want; and that you have to work at it, there is no "miracle weight loss pill".  |
| Brad | posted 4-Mar-2011 4:52pm @Preston I started back up on the Bronkaid stack this week and my god, is it kicking hard. I'm actually extremely surprised that the tolerance went down as quick as it did. Still hovering in the 165-170lb range. @Sherri Welcome! It's always nice seeing new people come in and find this page useful. What stack are you using? Keep up the good work! You're 22 and an RN? That's impressive. :) |
| Bob | posted 8-Mar-2011 2:09pm I haven't been around here in ages. It's nice to see some of you guys still going strong, especially you brad! I got off the stack and got lazy for a bit. Turns out i have a condition called hypothyroidism which means your thyroid doesn't produce as much hormone as it should leading to weight gain, water retention, generally laziness, depression, etc. I've since gotten puts on meds to help correct this problem which has helped my metabolism start to increase but i'd like to start taking the stack again. Unfortunately i don't see my Dr. till the end of the month to ask him if this is a safe thing to do. Regardless of that i'm picking back up the p90x routine to get my self in better shape. Keep up all the good work guys! |
| V | posted 8-Mar-2011 2:17pm just checking in!... down 20 lbs.... i couldnt be happier with the stack. i'm almost afraid its too good to be true and the next time i go back on and feel i need it, it wont work!! lol at some point i was taking 2 bronkaid 2X a day i dont know how i ever did that, because in the last month i've only taken 2 bronkaid 1X a day and been just fine... occasionally throwing in a primatene as a second dose (which is only 12.5 HCL) the stack has given me a bit of anxiety... so when i feel like my mind is racing i do take a break. other than that, ive been very careful, taking aspirin because im convinced my healthy blood pressure has to do with it. im not sure if it aids in the weightloss benefits, but if it keeps everything else working as normal i'm down to keep using it... health is always #1 so, that's my update... i know its been while since ive been on here, i hope everyone is doing well! |
| Sherri | posted 8-Mar-2011 8:47pm Thank you! Yes.. I graduated in December with my BSN! I love it! Nursing is an amazing job! I am using 2 Primatene tabs (25 HCL) & a 200mg caffeine pill twice daily. One when I wake (4am) and the other around 2pm(ish).. I've been taking it in 6 week cycles with 2 week breaks in between. Once I start back after my two week break, I take 2 Primatene tabs/1 caffeine once daily then proceed to build back up to my twice daily regimen. I suppose I've been lucky, no tolerance yet.. but I am so glad I did my research & found this combination! I was taking the fat burner, Lipodrene, and I hate to think about the amount of money I wasted! I have found this to be a more afforable and effective alternative! XOXO |
| Kristina <3 | posted 13-Mar-2011 1:45pm Hello! I'm so happy I found this! I love reading what everyone has to say! I am planning on making my own stack today or tomorrow. I live in Cali so I don't really know what the allowed amount to purchase here is.. Does anyone know how much I should ask for? I'm 5'5". 160pounds. Have been doing ALOT of research on where I can get ephedrine and I've concluded that making your own stack with Bronkaid is the best way to go. So... Since I'm new, can anyone answer my questions that I have? 1) so I can buy Bronkaid at my local cvs or walgreens, correct? 2) how much should I ask for? Or does it come in boxes? 3) since I don't have any problems with allergies, will taking Bronkaid affect my health? 4) can I take xenadrine (the new one) with it? Will that count as the caffeine part? 5) should I even bother with the aspirin? Thanks everyone!!! I love reading about everyones success with stacking on here! It has really motivated me! |
| Brad | posted 14-Mar-2011 5:09pm @Kristina 1. If you have a local CVS Pharmacy, they should stock Bronkaid. 2. From what I've seen it comes it 2 different boxes/quantities and these are your only choices. 3. No one here, other than maybe Sherri, can answer this. You should always consult your doctor before you start taking the ECA stack. There are risks involved with taking it. 4. You can, but I wouldn't personally recommend it. It's significantly more expensive than just buying your own caffeine and aspirin tablets. 5. I personally recommend taking the aspirin. I've seen amazing results with the stack and have always used aspirin. Other people don't take it and still see results. It's debatable. Welcome to the boards! :) |
| Kristina <3 | posted 14-Mar-2011 9:00pm Great! Thank you so much for your help! I actually ended up buying a box of Primatene at Walgreens instead of Bronkaid. Today was my first day taking the stack. I took the stack 3 times today... And my appetite was completely non existent today. It feels so good! I have always had a problem with over eating, and this seems to put me in control of what I put in my mouth. I feel very in control today and my diet is clean and spot on. I'm hoping this suppression of appetite won't go away after a few weeks of taking my stacks. Of course, my energy is also thru the roof. My workout was longer than usual, and my mood also has changed in a positive way. But back to the appetite part haha : is the lack of appetite the main reason one would drop fat on stacks? Since I don't have time to workout EVERY day, I think the cut in calories will probably be my main reason for dropping weight. |
| Brad | posted 14-Mar-2011 10:01pm That's great to hear! It's a combo of a couple different things. One being the appetite suppressant and the other being an increased heart rate/body temperature. So you're eating less while burning more calories than you normally do without the stack. |
| Sherri | posted 14-Mar-2011 10:51pm @Kristina: I agree with Brad; there are risks involved, but listen to your body. Since you started out with three stacks a day you may want to watch your blood pressure, heart rate, etc. because you are throwing your body into somewhat of a "shock". Also, make yourself eat. I am never hungry while stacking, but if you skip meals it will hurt your progress in the long run. Once your body burns a certain amount of fat it will move onto muscle and this doesn't happen once your "Fat is gone", if your body does not have food to burn for energy, it will in turn "eat itself". Like I said I am never hungry, but I make myself eat things protein packed: protein bars. shakes, chicken breast.. those types of things! I am a female and have had great success on this stack! I wish you the best of luck! XOXO To everyone: I work in the Emergency Department and during lunch today I spoke with two doctors about their opinions on this stack. Both doctors pretty much said the same thing, to be careful! They warned that my heart rate and blood pressure should be watched constantly! And that while I am taking this do not do any heavy cardio and to avoid all caffeine other than what I am taking (200mg/dose). Also, they recommended that I cycle on and off to give my body some rest; take no more than four week cycles at a time with a week to two-week breaks. They compared it to the prescription diet aids.. that when those are prescribed, they give it in 30 day doses. This is to have you come back in and let them make sure your body can handle it. One of the doctors also mentioned that this can become addictive and to watch for that. Pretty sure most of you knew all this, but I wanted to share! It all comes down to listening to yourself and what works for one may not work for another! |
| Kristina <3 | posted 16-Mar-2011 1:17am Thanks so much Sherri and Brad. I plan on being on the stack for 4 weeks as recommended, then get off for a week. I have a question.. I've heard many different answers on this one : what is the estimated number of extra calories burned a day while taking eca stacks? Let's say a person takes the stack, and doesn't exercise, with no change in diet. How effective would the stacks be? Thanks! |
| June | posted 10-Apr-2011 11:02am I happened across this website and can't tell you how thrilled I am to find you all. I too, have lamented the unwarrented 'seizure' of the best all-around weight-loss/happy pill from the shelves - darned irresponsible athletes, ruined it for all of us. Well after reading and absorbing all your stories and recommendations I was ecstatic to realize that I could zip around the corner and buy the ECA stack - and so reasonably! I've tried everything since the loss of that precious Xenadrine without ever getting the same results. I felt great on Xenadrine, I never got my usual twice a year allergy/sinus infection, and (regular) for the first time in my life, and went from a size 12 to 4 in about 9 months. My metabolism was through the roof - typically I'm a pretty laid back individual, but with Ephedra I was much more motivated and couldn't wait to get to the gym and work off my excess energy. I am back up to a size 10 and would love to burn off that fat. I am just so so much happier thin! I went out and purhased my stack ingredients so here we go! |
| Steve | posted 12-Apr-2011 7:54pm Back in 1998, I took the original RFA-1 and lost 66 pounds in 4 months - I went from 208 down to 142 pounds and 28% body fat down to 11%. Since the ephedra based version went off the market I couldn't find any suitable replacement. I did find some on-line retailers selling Megadrine and Superdrine, but they are not as strong as RFA-1. I went to my local nutrition store, the guy sells no-name ECA pills. He suggested I try Roxy Lean ECA. He sells it for $55 Canadian. I bought the Roxy Lean March 19. This pill is the absolute closet thing to the original RFA-1. I started off at 177 and now I am at 160. I am losing approx .5 pounds a day. This completely suppresses my appetite and it gives me a ton of energy. Also note, I have only gone to the gym once since March 19. I did notice it greatly increase my heart rate when I tried some cardio. My goal weight was 165. I never thought this would work the same way the old RFA-1 did. I am going to keep taking it for another week or 2 until I get to 155. Looking back at pictures when I was in the 140 - I was way too thin. I am 5' 10. I will keep you posted.... |
| Jess | posted 16-Apr-2011 2:32pm So glad I found this forum! I've gone back to page one and skimmed to page six so far, but I stopped because I am going to go run out and find some Bronkaid right now to make my own stack. If this doesn't work, I'm ordering the Kaizen ephedrine tablets. As for me, I remember my first bottle of Xenadrine RFA-1 in high school, 2001. I took two the first afternoon and weighed myself the next day. I was down *6 pounds*, I almost passed out on the scale! Granted, I'm sure a lot of it was water weight but I was hooked. After they banned it I was able to find it for a few more years, but paying ridiculous amounts for it ($200 a bottle). Since then I feel like I have tried EVERYTHING to no avail. Nothing compares. I had my fair share of scary side effects with Xenadrine but I still search for it every once in a while hoping I will find some miracle bottle still floating around. :\ What I wouldn't give to get back to 110 lbs... Well, wish me luck. My self-esteem has hit rock bottom low and I could really use a running start to get back on track. I hope this works. |
| June | posted 23-Apr-2011 10:15am I've lost 4lbs without working out. Actually today is the first time I went to the gym since I started the stack. I'm feeling great with the stack, takes care of my ADD and I'm more chatty. |
| AnonymousKee | posted 9-May-2011 1:57pm I started taking the stack at the end of December 2010 and so far I've lost 22lbs. I was taking 1 of each twice a day. Because my weight loss has halted, I'm adding another dosage. I will check in in a month. If I'm lucky, I'll be down another 10 or so lbs. |
| Anonymous623 | posted 23-May-2011 10:21am I started the ECA back in Nov. with minimal results. Been on it ever since, cycled off for a few weeks. Just started back up hoping, Praying, that it will work. I decided to increase the ephidrine to 3 pills of primitine so I am hoping it will work. Oh, and I am taking the CVS brand of primitine, its cheaper..any suggestions. Please advise any hepful hints or a new way to do it...I really want this to start working. I also go to the gym 4 times a week & do mostly cardio & some weights...HELP! HELP! HELP! I would like to loose at least 20 lbs asap!! |
| Brad | posted 24-May-2011 5:07pm @Anonymous623 If you aren't seeing any results using Primatene, switch over to Bronkaid (also sold at CVS). Primatene is ephedrine hydrochloride and Bronkaid is ephedrine sulfate. I think the majority of us on here are using the Bronkaid and have seen amazing results with it. |
| Anonymous623 | posted 24-May-2011 10:54pm Thanks Brad! When I started in Nov. I used the Bronkaid and I would get sick..maybe I'll try it again when I use up the rest of the Primatine:) |
| Anonymous623 | posted 6-Jun-2011 10:09am I have increased the Primitine to 3 pills 2x a day. So I take 3 primitine & 1 nodoz 2x a day. It seems to be working! Yeayyyyy:) Hope I see some more results in the coming weeks! How is everyone else doing??? |
| Anonymous | posted 27-Jun-2011 9:58am Has anyone found an ECA blog that is more current and more people participate/share? |
| Brad | posted 28-Jun-2011 5:14pm This board was definitely alive and going for about a year, but lately it has tapered off dramatically. You should probably look at it as a good thing. People don't look for help when they no longer need it. :) Anything you could possibly want to know is already here. Just look back a little bit. |
| Gardenia | posted 1-Jul-2011 4:22pm Greetings, all! I'm a 37 (almost 38) y.o. female who just started MiniLean 25/100 (25 ephedrine alkaloids/100 caffeine), twice a day. Note: I did get it from "that's wholesale.com" -- which some people here seem to think offers questionable products.... so we'll see. Stats: I'm 5'1, 123 lbs as of last Saturday. Goal: 105. I first tried Xendadrine in August of '01, at 120lbs, and by October was down ten lbs. without exercise. I lost 5 more lbs. 'til December, reaching my goal of 105. Then I started exercising like mad, now that I didn't fear the gym, and by June of the next year was down to 100 and kept between 100 and 105 for over a year. I didn't even have to to much cardio; mostly light weight training and pilates daily, and I had a very toned body. I think I was 19 BMI and 18% body fat! Man, those were the days. Like many here, I've been dying to find something that will work like the old formulas I used to take back in the day. I will give this MiniLean a shot for a month (then I'm off on vacation) and keep you posted as to its progress. If it doesn't work, I'll go off a few weeks and then try the stack you all seem to recommend. So far, it's day four, and MiniLean has *totally* gotten rid of my appetite. I'm making sure to drink lots of water, no caffeine, and eat even when not hungry. The Minilean is better than what I'd tried before from That'sWholesale... Lipodrene made me VERY jittery and uncomfortable, whereas I remember Metabolife and Xenadrine giving me a "lift" that wasn't jittery. But we shall see... I'll try to keep posting once a week. And if anyone has any advice, let me know! ... and nice forum! |
| Gardenia | posted 5-Jul-2011 2:39pm Down to 119.5 this past Saturday. However, considering I drank lots of water and didn't eat past 6 p.m., I don't really know if this was due to the ML25/100 or a combination of mind over matter and just being diligent! That said, I was encouraged by the 3.5 lb. loss since I usually lose only 2 to 3 lbs my first week of a diet. I will post again this upcoming Saturday (I only weigh myself once a week). Since I splurged a bit over the 4th of July weekend (still didn't eat past 6, but went over my 1,100 calorie daily goal), it will be interesting to see if I lose 3 lbs again, which would be awesome. Even if the formula isn't true ephedra, so far just the appetite suppressant seems to be working well. Fingers crossed! |
| Anonymous | posted 6-Jul-2011 12:52pm Great job Gardenia! Keep us posted on your results:) I'm also going to check out the pills your taking. How much did they cost you? |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 14-Jul-2011 12:42am Wow good to finally find this board again. |
| Jenn | posted 19-Jul-2011 9:39am I took the original Xenadrine from 01-02 and lost 40 plus pounds. I kept if off for about 2 years, but gained it all back eventually. I've since (3 years ago) had Lap Band surgery. It made me lose about 30 pounds, but have gained it back!! I am now taking the Primatene tablets 1/3x day, and am having minimal progress. Thanks for this board! I will now get the caffeine and aspirin. Personally, I feel like the Bronkaid is better for me, since I tried it for a while and had nice effects. Also,according to my scale I've only lost 4 lbs, yet I'm down a pant size..HUH?? |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 19-Jul-2011 2:22pm @Jenn - That original Xenadrine was definitely the real deal, its too bad that it is no longer available because it was an add-in to the Patriot Act. It sounds like you are taking the Primatene alone, definitely stack them with the caffeine and aspirin for a better effect. By the way, how long ago did you take the Bronkaid? If you just finished the Bronkaid and went straight into the Primatene, your body might need a little time off because it could be accustomed to the ephedrine. How long have you been on Primatene and Bronkaid? Your scale says 4lbs, but your pants say one size smaller? That sounds like a good problem to have! Then again when we start a new diet, we have a tendency to retain some water. The fat may be gone, but your body could be retaining water keeping your scale higher; eventually that will wear off and the scale will be more true. |
| Jenn | posted 19-Jul-2011 6:25pm I took the Bronkaid for about 3 weeks, 1/3x day. Now I'm taking 2 Primatene 3x/day. Altogether it's been about 5-6 weeks. I agree, I may be retaining water because it is really hot out and I drink water like it's going out of style... Thanks for the info. Will keep you posted! |
| Kel | posted 5-Aug-2011 11:56am I started on this stack in April 2010 weighing 184.4. After a year+ of being on it (rarely taking breaks from it, I know, I know- not good), I lost 43.6 lbs, weighing 140.8 in May. I recently took a month off from it and started back up today, 143.6 this morning so I didn’t gain too much :/ Anyways, I'm still trying to obtain my goal of 130 lbs and I'm hoping the month break from the stack will rejuvenate it's effects for the remaining 13.6 lbs. I’m taking 2 daily doses of 2 Bronkaid, 1 NoDoz, and 1 baby aspirin. |
| Brad | posted 5-Aug-2011 5:14pm Good to see you on here again, Kel. |
| Kel | posted 8-Aug-2011 10:54am @Brad Glad to still see a familiar face (name) still on here! What do you think about the claims to take Benadryl at time to keep the effects of the stack? |
| Brad | posted 8-Aug-2011 11:02am I haven't heard anything about that. What's the claim? |
| Kel | posted 8-Aug-2011 12:09pm V posted on posted 9-Nov-2010 9:07pm: "when people get off the stack for their off time, they take benadryl to counteract the effects. this should essentially bring back your metabolism to its original state and so when you begin to take the stack again, its as though you've never taken it and BAM you're feeling the original feelings everyone experiences in their first few weeks of use." |
| Anonymous | posted 14-Aug-2011 6:21pm I've been taking the EC stack since April with nominal effects, but it has helped me sustain I suppose. What do you think about substituting the caffeine pill with an energy drink? I would think it delivers the same effect. I'd like to know what others opinions are... |
| BLove | posted 14-Aug-2011 8:26pm I've read thru the posts and think I'm going to try the ECA stack since I was a huge Xenadrine RFA fan. I have one question though. I drink a good bit of coffee in the mornings. Should I skip the caffiene on the morning dose or just take less of it? Thanks for the help |
| EphedrineSupporter82 | posted 17-Aug-2011 8:20pm @BLove I would scrap the coffee for the time being to make sure you can handle the amount of caffeine. Or at least, if you don't mind the taste, switch to decaf and have your stack. That way you don't feel you have lost the effect. Once you know you are okay with it, I would gradually reintroduce coffee to your routine; that is if you just can't go without it. Too much caffeine can mean problems sleeping, jitters, irregular heartbeat, etc. Let's not forget you will get a stimulant effect from the stack as a whole, too. |
| V | posted 17-Aug-2011 9:11pm hi guys! long time no seek/talk/post.... i check in here every so often so see what people are saying and doing. Kel - the claim i had about benadryl was made after several boards had people saying they took it on their off weeks... does it do anything?? im not sure... i never tried it. I'm still in good shape, in fact a few lbs lost... i took a break from the stack as it gave me some anxiety (which is normal, but i got tired of the feeling and was where i wanted ot be so i stopped)... i found that primatene helped me better than bronkaid but to each their own. yea, if i ate more id gain a few lbs but once i went back to eating healthy i dropped them quick so ive actually been able to maintain quite well... for the last two weeks ive taken something called oxy elite pro, just for the sake of trying it as i was curious. from what i read it didnt compare to the stack, but a friend of mine tried it and i decided to as well.... well, it has given me great results, im not quite sure how, especially after taking the stack, but it contains ingredients that help push the thyroid gland to metabolize faster... there is caffeine in it but as far as i know no effect on the nervous system... i will always be a supporter of the stack... but this supplement is a little welcome break from something so strong. |
| Crystal from Toronto | posted 25-Aug-2011 11:39pm The new EFX formula: I too will purchase and use every second day - to give my body a break from the Ephedrine that's found in the Orginal Xenadrine RFA-1....you see... I have 2 bottles of the Orginal Xenadrine from 2000 - I only took a few back in 2000, found it incredibly strong, so I discontinued. The massive energy mixed with slight nausea was a bit too much for me - I only took 2 pills that first time, but the racing heart and extreme appetite suppression didn't seem 'right', quite frankly, it scared me. I was looking to loose 6-8 lbs and wondered if taking this pill was worth it for just a few lbs. So I tucked the bottles away (can't remember why I didn't just throw them out?),anyway, I am so glad I didn't trash them...I have managed to pack on 38lbs onto my 5'8" frame in the last 6 years. I can't say I've tried everything - okay, I have tried nothing - I was surfing the web for diet pills when I stumbled onto this site, and I am so happy I did. The postings have been very helpful! I take one cap of the Original Xenadrine RFA in the morning and that's all I need for the entire day - the energy and appetite suppression is amazing - and there is NO question about the efficacy of the product even so long after its supposed expiry date! I am down 5 lbs in 7 days (probably water...too good to be true) - I would like to loose 1.5lbs a week, not more. So if any of you have old bottles of the Orginal around don't trash them, you might want to try one to see how it still works. |
| Florida Girl | posted 4-Sep-2011 10:14am Well I havent been here for like a year or two but is anyone still taking The Pure Ma Haung? Ive tried it before and it worked but I dont wanna try it again unless I know that people are still using it and seeing results incase ephedra outlet switched out whats in the capsules. Thankyou :) |
| Panhandle Girl | posted 4-Sep-2011 10:50am (Florida Girl) Panhandle Girl was the name I used from like 2009 on here. Glad to see that you're still here Brad and Kel btw :) |
| Kel | posted 8-Sep-2011 9:02am @Florida/Panhandle Girl still here, trucking right along :) I've been taking a little breather from constant stacking and boy did the scale show it this morning! Back to stacking and DailyBurn.com for me: August 11, 2011 - Recorded Body Weight of 142 lbs September 08, 2011 - Recorded Body Weight of 148 lbs Yikes! |
| Panhandle Girl | posted 10-Sep-2011 11:56am Yeah my scale went in the wrong direction too. Ive been off it for like a yr and Im gonna order some more next week and get back to stacking. Good luck with your weightloss:) |
| Kel | posted 13-Sep-2011 8:15am Has anyone else noticed a different kind of feeling when using the Walgreens version of No Doz? |
| Panhandle Girl | posted 8-Oct-2011 11:51am Well I decided to go back to Prestons old version of the bronkaid/no doz stack (no aspirin for me-I cant take aspirin bcuz my doctor suggested against it bcuz I have thin blood.) I like the Pure Ma Haung better but I have to order it which means using my debit card (Bank of America) which I still havent used since Bank of Americas new charge of 5$ a month just for using a debit card-thats insane so haven figured out yet. So im gonna use Bronkaid and No Doz cuz its the only thing I can buy in stores with cash that has a similar effect to the Pure Ma Haung. Keep ya all posted? p.s why is it so dead here latley? |
| Bob | posted 2-Nov-2011 8:51am I still peruse here a few times a month. I've been back on the stack for a couple months now. At first just the ephedrine 8mg tablets and no doz for the first couple weeks. I then added in the aspirin and i forgot how much of a difference that made in the energy levels and hunger suppression. I drop a notch on my belt in the first month and i can still "see" weight being dropped but i havent gotten on a scale in months. Not even before i started back up on the program. I moved a couple months ago and havent even unpacked it yet. I really need to get back into exercising as that helped tons with weight loss. But i ve gotten lazy and my new place is 4 times as far away from work so i don't find nearly as much time to get things done any more. I really need a kick in the ass to get myself going. |
| Bob | posted 8-Nov-2011 8:23am Make it 2 notches on the belt now! I dont even think i went down that far on my belt when i dropped 40 lbs the first time around. Of course i was also working out so i was putting on muscle not just dropping weight. I certainly looked better then. I really need to get myself on a scale. I went from 215ish down to 176 before. I'm sure i'm not down to that yet but 2 belt holes in 2 months certainly isn't bad for minimal exercise, AKA walking the dog, taking the stack twice a day, and eating better and less. |
| Bob | posted 17-Nov-2011 8:38am Well i'm going to be stopping the stack as of today. 1st because i went past the weight i had wanted to get down to and 2nd because i'm all out of ephedrine as of my morning dose. I wanted to get down to 175 and i made it down to 171 in the couple months i've been taking the stack again. I'm sure i'll pick it back up at some point but i'll probably just go get some bronkaid again next time around. It's been a while since i order the ephedrine hcl and i'm not sure where i got it from how ever long ago that was. |
| Kel | posted 18-Nov-2011 11:45am @Bob Way to go for surpassing your goal! That's awesome! |
| Bob | posted 5-Dec-2011 3:25pm Thanks Kel. No the real trick is keeping it off. |
| V | posted 6-Dec-2011 12:08am funny... i can keep it off. i just cant seem to lose anymore... ive plateaued ... any suggestions anyone?? not quite sure what to do. in the past ive switched up working out, or eating at different times, or even going back an forth between primatene and bronkaid. for the first time in a very long time i cant seem to shake the scale... |
| Bob | posted 14-Dec-2011 12:51pm You could try the ephedrine hcl if you wanted. I can't recall where i got it but the site is listed in this thread somewhere. I don't what your dosage is so i don't want to say try upping that. That's really a call between you and your dr. Perhaps a different work out routine? I had good success with p90x. It'll kick your ass but you'll get in shape. |
| Preston | posted 21-Dec-2011 10:39pm Wow, I haven't been back to this site in ages... glad to see some people are still seeing results =) I hopped off the bandwagon some odd months ago, and I've just been doing it the old fashioned way: diet, exercise, and lots of water. Hope everyone else is doing good.. it's good to know we all made some impacts on people's lives. Keep up the good work, guys. |
| Whit | posted 31-Dec-2011 5:06am I was recommended by a friend to use the ECA for weight loss. He swore by it, but I was really nervous based on all the medical websites I read. After spending hours reading all of your posts I am very relieved to see people can use it safely and successfully! I want to give a special thanks the Brad, Kel, V and bob for your continuous posts and updates on your awesome progress! I have enjoyed following your journey and hope to join you soon. Happy new year everyone!!! |
| Bob | posted 18-Jan-2012 10:27am I just wanted to check in and see how everyone's been doing? I recently picked up some primatine to give a try. Of course that was only because the 3 cvs' i stopped at had no bronkaid. I don't think it really has the same kick for me as either the bronkaid or the ephedrine hcl. And where the hell has Brad disappeared to? |
| mg | posted 27-Jan-2012 8:42pm Hello all. I recently started the eca stack 2 weeks ago. I am a 32yo female with about 30lbs to lose. I used the original hydroxycut about 9-10yrs ago & had amazing results...lost 20-25lbs & wasn't getting that much exercise, just the typical stuff that we all do day to day. Then when it was taken off the market :( I slowly gained it back. Then later started a low carb diet & my job @ the time was very physical...lost the 20 lbs again. Then...lol...got a new job as a banker. I new I'd gain the weight back. I did about 3 yrs later. Damn!!! So, I bought I treadmill & power walked my add off 30-45min sessions 4 x's a wk, calorie counted, the whole damn shabang for 6mo & nothing happened. Wtf!!! So after tons of research, eca seems like the next route for me. I have built my wag |
| mg | posted 27-Jan-2012 8:49pm Stupid phone...Built my way up to 25mg e, 200 c, 81mg a...3 x's a day except the a I only do with the morning dose. I only get minimal exercise do to my long hrs @ work & exhaustion @ the end of the day. So far I haven't noticed any weight loss, but I understand it can take up to 2mo for results. I just hope this works bc I am going crazy. Any thoughts?? |
| Anonymous | posted 13-Feb-2012 4:06pm anyone have experience with the generic's; ie CVS brand Primatine, jet alert caffine pills and equate brand advil. Do you think this would have anything to do with the weight loss. I have been on the generic for a while and no results, I'm wondering if that's the problem? Comments please!!! |
| Bob | posted 14-Feb-2012 11:29am I can't speak for the jet caffeine but i've used both the cvs brand primatine and the equate aspirin and have felt a decent energy boost and appetite suppression with them. I still prefer the ephedrine hcl best and bronkaid as 2nd though. |
| mg | posted 17-Feb-2012 12:50pm i have been using the cvs generic primatene b/c thats all i have seen available, along with generic no doze & low dose a. i haven't noticed any real results either & i've been on the stuff for 5 weeks. i wouldn't think that brand name would matter b/c the ingredients are all the same. i'm still not giving up hope though...it doesn't take over night to gain weight & neither does taking it off. i am hoping to lose a few lbs @ the 8 week mark, but will over all give it 6mo with a lil cycling & if nothing happens, to hell with the stuff. but, i was recently able to find brand name primantene 60count for a cheap price, so i will stick to that. primatene has ephedrine hcl, which is supposed to be stronger that ephedrine sulfate, (which is found in bronkaid). anyway...i've read a lot in here & it kinda sux that no one really writes anymore. where is everyone?? |
| mg | posted 23-Feb-2012 3:08pm just a lil update...since using primatene brand, i have lost 5 lbs in a week! i saw nothing with the generic. that's crazy b/c the active ingredients in both are the same...25mg ephedrine in 2 tabs, i don't get it. |
| Anonymous | posted 29-Feb-2012 10:50am Ok, I started the primatene brand instead of the generic and hoping to see some results this week. Will keep you posted. |
| mg | posted 15-Mar-2012 11:09am ok, i don't know wth is going on...but i've been using the eca stack for a lil over 2 months now with no real results. i just don't get it. my weight just keeps bouncing around 5-10 lbs up & down. why? i've read so many posts on here about successes & i've been all over the internet & it's the same. well, not with me. i eat very little & drink a gallon of water a day. i do drink alcohol though...maybe 1-2 beers or a glass of wine each night...if that. don't know if that would make an impact or not, it's not like i'm chugging down a 12pack. i do drink heavier on the weekends, but whatever. gonna continue on the stack for a couple more months in hopes of some real weight loss. |
| Kel | posted 16-Mar-2012 7:45am Anyone else notice No Doz is off Walgreen's shelves? The generic was even taken off. Anyone have any recommendations for what I can use instead of No Doz? Also, Wal-Mart has cheaper bronkaid than Walgreens. Walgreens is like $12, Wal-Mart is like $6! |
| Kel | posted 19-Mar-2012 9:50am I went out of town and that Walgreens had the generic Walgreens brand No-Doz. I guess it wasn't pulled from every store...? |
| Brad | posted 3-Apr-2012 7:04pm Wow! I had a computer crash several months ago and lost all of my data. I had this site bookmarked and couldn't find it again for a long time. Glad to see some familiar people still posting here. I went off the stack (using bronkaid) about a year ago. Gained nearly all of my weight back. Decided to go back on it again last Thursday. Fingers crossed it works again. |
| Dandy | posted 7-Apr-2012 12:09am @ kel Went to Walgreens today and was told that I could not purchase No Doz as it was being pulled from the shelf. I went and got the generic brand Awake and they said I was able to get that. I live in NY.When I asked why they said they didn't know just shows up in the CPU that they need to pull it from the shelves and cant sell it. HHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMm |
| Kelli | posted 17-Apr-2012 3:03pm This so funny to me. I thought I was the only one out there who missed the original Xenadrine RFA-1 pills so much!! I love those pills, and was so mad that they took them off the market. I am really glad I ran across this forum, you guys are awesome. I have been trying to find that "special pill" but it just does not exist anymore like the orginal did. So I went to Wal-Mart today after reading through almost all of these responses (took up all of my work morning haha). I bought the Bronkaid for $5.98, the aspirin for $0.98, and I had to go to my local Pharmacy for caffeine pills (go figure!) $1.99 for the genereic no doz and $6.79 for Vivarin. Which is alot cheaper than anything out there right now! BTW-No Doz are no longer at WMT and I did not find anything that looked like a generic alternate to it. Which is why I went to my local pharm. Plus at Wal Mart they took my license and typed in all of my info for the Bronakid. So when I was at my local pharm, I asked for some Bronkaid, they didn't have any and ordered me some boxes, which will be there tomorrow for pick up. YAY! So altogether my total stack costs $8.95 using genereic caffeine pills or $13.75 with Vivarin. That is a steal! It beats the $50 doctor's visit and $23 Rx for Phenteramine I was on. BTW I lost 32 pounds in 9 months using it BUT it turned me into the Hulk- I was mean and cranky to my family, and I am a happy person. I was at 189 last Feb. and I got down to 157. I have been off of them for about 2.5 months and I weigh around 161-163. I am trying to get back down to 130 or 135. I am 5'3!!! So I will do this stack and hope that I will get the results from the orginal RFA-1. I love cleanses and fasts, so this stack will be exciting to see if it works. I do exercise, I usually try to power walk every other morning and I do my abs all the time, I love working my core. All the wight is in my arms and butt/thigh area. I am so glad I found this site. Thanks! |
| Brad | posted 17-Apr-2012 10:01pm Welcome, Kelli! I've gotten back into the habit of checking in here every day or two like I used to now that I found this place again. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer them for you. Good luck! |
| Kelli | posted 18-Apr-2012 9:41am @ Brad-Thanks! So I took the stack this am as soon as I got up, then I remembered that I used to take the original RFA after my morning routine, right before I left for the base. Now I remember why; my hands were so shaky I had a hard time putting on my make-up lol. I haven't felt this UP and energized in a loooong time. I am so glad that I found this site haha! I have no appetite, and I am really thirsty-like I used to be, and I need to chew gum...just like the old days ahhhhh. I also have that happy euphoric feeling that I love. No more mean Hulk from the Phen, thank goodness! I was taking a water pill but I will not be taking those anymore since I have found my secret weapon. Thanks for the ECA stack combination everyone! I will report my progress as I lose my last 30 lbs! |
| Kelli | posted 19-Apr-2012 9:50am @ V- Thanks for that website; hotnfit regarding the aspirin. I was at my pharmacy yesterday buying more Bronkaid =) and asked one of the pharm guys there about aspirin doses and he was very adament about not doing 3 pills a day of 250 mg of aspirin as I have done within the last 24 hours. Then I saw your post on aspirin and I am sooo going back to the pharm to get baby aspirin haha! Thank YOU so much! Hotnfit says: "The "effective dosage" at which aspirin was added to the EC stack was at 325 mg. 325 mg of aspirin 3 times a day puts you at risk for developing ulcers and other gastrointestinal symptoms. Again, if you would like to use it to decrease risks/chances of high blood pressure, stick to the 81mg aspirin". |
| Kelli | posted 20-Apr-2012 10:18am So I have been on the stack for 3 days. I did too much too soon yesterday after only 1 day on the stack-obviously my tolerance is not where I thought it was. I was very VERY nauseous last night and had to empty my stomach to get rid of the horrible feeling in my head and tummy and overall lethargic, doped up feeling I had going on. I tried three doses yesterday instead of two. I will be only doing two doses per day for a few more days. But on Monday I weighed 166 and this morning I weigh 151! Now I know it has alot to do with last night but still, that is amazing results. I can't wait to have my pre-2 kids weight back (circa 2004)! I was also looking up online the ingredients, ALL of the ingredients, in the original RFA-1 and I came across this article on livestrong.com (see below). SO I was thinking if I could find something with all of that stuff in it and supplement the Bronk and aspirin with it then I would have the original RFA-1. I ordered "Alpha Hoodia" (from Amazon) which has everything in it that the original had minus the ehpedra of course and I will let you all know if it works as well as this ECA stack or if I wasted $25 on the herbs. =) Because Bitter Orange was a key herb in the original formula as well, that is why I was thinking of all of this. Where the ECA stack is awesome, it is missing Bitter Orange. I will do this formula: 1 Bronkaid, 1 Alpha Hoodia, 1 low dose aspirin 2x a day and see what happens. If nothing then I will go back to 1 Bronkaid, 1 caffeine pill, 1 low dose aspirin 2x a day. I should get them tomorrow (Saturday). "Herbs" "Xenadrine contains 85 mg of bitter orange, an herb used for weight loss and appetite suppression. Xenadrine also contains 910 mg of guarana extract, which is a natural source of caffeine and thus serves as an appetite suppressant. It is unclear why Xenadrine contains 105 mg of white willow bark, as white willow bark does not have any known weight-loss properties and is usually used to treat pain or flu symptoms. Xenadrine contains 50 mg of ginger root, which is normally used to treat nausea and other gastrointestinal problems. Xenadrine also contains 225 mg of a proprietary thermo synergist blend, which may have appetite-suppressant or metabolism-increasing properties". (livestrong.com/article/237593-ingredients-in-the-original-xenadrine-rfa-1/#ixzz1saR941zg) Have a blessed weekend!! |
| Kelli | posted 23-Apr-2012 9:55am Ok-so I re-weighed myself and I have actually lost 10 pounds. And the herbs are a great supplement to the stack. But I am only taking baby aspirin, not the 250 mg aspirin. Lots of energy and loss of appetite. But still- 10 pounds in a week is awesome! |
| Brad | posted 24-Apr-2012 12:24am That's awesome, Kelli! Keep us posted. |
| Kelli | posted 2-May-2012 3:29pm Update: The stack is still working. But the baby aspirin was not cutting it for me. I have gone back to the 250mg aspirin and I am now taking 2 Bronkaids 2x a day with caffeine and aspirin. I feel less hungry with the regular aspirin then with the baby aspirin. To each their own though. |
| Brad | posted 2-May-2012 10:04pm Wish I could say the same, Kelli. For some reason it doesn't seem like the stack is working for me this time. I completely feel the effects and I'm taking 3 doses a day (9:00, 12:00, 3:00), but I've lost MAYBE 3-5lbs since I started again. It's been a little over a month and I have no clue why the results are so slow this time. It's a little disheartening honestly. Like I said, I can feel it in my system. My appetite is completely eliminated and I have loads of energy, but the weight doesn't seem to be going anywhere (at least not nearly as fast as before). I'll stick with it for one more month. If I don't see any definitive weight loss by June 3rd, I'm going to stop the stack. |
| Bob | posted 8-May-2012 10:46am Kelli I also noticed a big difference in the appetite suppression and energy levels by using a regular sized aspirin over the baby ones. |
| Kelli | posted 9-May-2012 10:29am @ Brad; Yeah, I have slowed down too. But I am only doing it twice a day. I am stuck @ 11 pounds. I keep going up and down. Maybe it is because I am woman but I do have more energy. Just no added weight loss. I am going to to try 3x a day and see what that does. I take a water pill some days versus the caffeine pill in my morning dose and that seems to jump start the weight loss. Have you tried Bitter orange? It was also in the original xenadrine. @ Bob-I like the generic aspirin-it only has 250 mg of aspirin in it. Have you lost wieght as well? |
| Christina96 | posted 9-May-2012 10:14pm Hi everyone, I feel like I know some of you regulars already. I started reading this message board starting with page one (answered alot of my questions along the way)and was glad to see its still active once I made it to the last page. I found out about this ECA stack on Sunday 5/6/12 after spending most of the weekend researching (mostly out of disbelief that there really was a way to recreate the orginal effects of ephedrine). Bright and early monday morning I hauled over to CVS bought the following: -Bronkaid (2 boxes)- the "E" -CVS brand Caffeine Tablets (200MG EA) - the "C" -Green Tea Extract Capsules - the "G" -Fish Oil Capsules (look for the odorless ones if u can, fish burps are gross lol) - the "F" -Baby Asprin (81mg) - the "A" -Vitamin C capsules - the "VC" -Pill box organizer (has 4 "boxes" per day to make things easy) Started first thing that morning 5/7/12(monday: Day 1: 8am: 1-E, 1/2-C, 2-G 12pm: 1-E, 1/2-C, 1-G, 1-VC 4pm: 1-E, 1/2-C, 1-G, 1-A, 1-F (Drinking 1.5 gallons of water/day) Decided to be a bit more brave tuesday cause I wasn't jittery or wired like I wanted to be, so I went to a full "C" at each dosing and added a second bronkaid to my noon dose. FINALLY!!!!!!!! The euphoric warmth of ephedrine kicked in! How I missed it's sweet embrace! Spent some time researching today and came across this "board" which has by far been the most informational and helpful one on the internet (I had already found all the links referred to on earlier pages) and still found this one to be the best, personal and real information. Sooo, now that my Intro is over, It is Wednesday 5/9/12 and I have had 3 days of the stack I am down 8 lbs (hopefully not just water cause of the amount of water I'm consuming). Next my personal stats/history weight issues: I am a 24 year old female from California, 5'10" and started Monday 5/6/12 at 325lbs(I guess I can tell yall cause I don't know any of you lol and you guys seem very suportive lol). 2003 I was at 185/190 which was a size 11/13 pants for me. Now at 325lb I'm in a size 22 and miserable. ALOT of Crap happened over the last 9 years, I was binge closet eating, didn't care, weight pilled on like crazy and I hit 337 at my worst and broke down. I've tried every "magic" pill I could find, atkins, weight watchers, I've had personal trainers on/off for 3 years, did HCG+500cal diet which was the only other thing that kinda worked (got down to 270 mid 2011) but come on 500 cal/day I felt like sh*t and had no energy whatsoever(then more crap happened and I bounced back up).., the lemonade/cayanne/syrup thing, seriously everything. from February 2012- this past sunday 5/6/12 I've been personal training 3x's a week and eating healthy and only dropped from 337 to 325 (12 lbs in 3.5 months aint working for me) So I'm SUPER happy about the 8lbs in 3 days. My goal is to get to 190 then see what I look like (my frame is tall and kinda stalky even when I was at 190, I looked more like 170 for my frame). Back to the stacking info. I eat a banana for breakfast with or without granola depending on my hunger(i've never been a breakfast person), lunches have been Tuna sandwich or Sushi or grilled chicken and vegetables etc, dinners I usually have fruit (canned pears, apple, etc) or chicken/veg. or a progresso light soup. Pretty sure my calories are around 1000 or less per day but I'm not starving or staring at the fridge with desire. Also drinking water like a fish all day non stop. Dropped sodas cold turkey and its not bothering me yet-knock on wood, not driving through anywhere other than el pollo loco for skinless chicken breast and mixed veggies when in a hurry. The first two days I hardly pooped lol (anyone else have this?), but I've been peeing like a race horse since monday lol and finally had a normal poo (perfect according to Dr. Oz's poo chart)SOOooo... to finish up my now novel, I have a few questions and gladly accept any questions or suggestions you guys have for me! Questions: 1. For those of you that have lost all your weight and gained some back or fell off the wagon at some point, what happened when you came off? Did you revert back to old habbits or did your body just not work properly? I know Brad weened himself (This was my plan later down the road but longer than a 10 day ween). 2. Cycling vs. straight through til goal weight? I've seen people doing both, but haven't seen the results of cycling? I'll be a regular and keep you guys updated on where I'm at, would love to hear your guys starting weights/dates, todays weights, any tidbits that helped or burdened you along the way. Gonna stop typing for real now :) -Christina |
| Christina96 | posted 11-May-2012 11:47pm Hey peeps! Update: 5/11/12 hit 314lbs this morning for a total 11lbs down in 5a days YAY!!!! Hoping someone will check in this weekend! |
| Bob | posted 14-May-2012 3:38pm Congrats Christina96! Keep it up! Kelli at the moment i'm not taking anything at the moment but i've been considering picking it back up again. I don't have a ton i want to lose this time but the quicker it goes the more motivated you;; be for other things. |
| Kelli | posted 18-May-2012 9:38am Hi Christina! I am new to the stack too and it is amazing if you use it everyday. I got off of it for 2 weeks and I gained 5 pounds! So now I am back on it. I use it 2x a day. Some people do it more, but I have to build up to that, otherwise I get sick. I also noticed the constipation issue the first week. There is a drink called magnesium citrate you can get, it is like 99 cents and get it in the cherry flavor (the others are nasty) that will help with blockage. Drink half the bottle one night then the other half within 24 hours and you will feel better. I hope this helps you! @ Bob-I ran out of aspirin so I stopped taking it, I kept forgetting to get the aspirin and I gained 5 pounds! Just in 2 weeks! But once I started to take it, OMG my energy level sky rocketed and I had very lite meals. It was awesome. |
| Charleston-Chris | posted 27-Jun-2012 10:57pm I thought I was the only one who missed the original Zenadrine RFA-1 with Ephedra! I just purchased 600 ephedrine pills online, to be shipped from Canada. I can not wait to get them. I am currently 5ft 11 and 325lbs. My goal is to drop 100lbs. I know for sure I will be able to do it with my trusty ECA stack. I think its a shame that they took it off the market, because it is the only product that I have ever been successful with. So glad that I found this educating and motivating forum. |
| Charleston-Chris | posted 2-Jul-2012 7:27pm I received my 600 count 8mg Ephedrine HCL! I ordered Them on a Thursday and received them that Saturday! I am stacking with 200mg caffeine, and 81mg of Aspirin with 24mg Ephedrine HCL. So far so good. |
| Bob | posted 5-Jul-2012 10:17am Over the last month i've dropped 11 lbs doing the bronkaid stack and not changing anything else. I'm at the point where without exercise i won't really lose much more. I really need to get myself in gear. Figuring out some changes that would allow me to maintain this or lower weight permanently would be ideal. I don't want to go on the stack every few months because i put back on the weight i lost using it. |
| AprilD | posted 10-Jul-2012 1:53am @Charleston-Chris. I would love to find out where you ordered the 600 ephedrine pill from. In the mid 90's I worked out with Ultimate Orange and I LOVED it. Have you tried the pills yet and do they work - are they real? Would love to get some info from you on where to buy and if they are effective. |
| Charleston-Chris | posted 24-Jul-2012 7:26am @AprilD: The easiest thing to do is to google 8mg ephedrine HCL and you will find websites from Canada that ship to the USA. I'm leery about mentioning the exact website I use because you might be the FUZZ and I don't want my good thing to get messed up. On another note: I just had a break through. I found out that the ECA stack ratio is 3-2-1. (25-32 mg of Ephedrine HCL, 200mg caffeine. and at least 100 mg of aspirin.) I know a lot of folk are saying just one 81 mg baby aspirin is enough, but in my experience its not, I take two now. I remember back in the day when I started stacking I was using the 325mg aspirins per dose, so a dosage of 162 mg isn't terrible at all, in fact its just right. I suggest everyone try what works best for them. I am learning what works best for me. |
| Chef Lucky | posted 25-Jul-2012 6:05am I used to take the rfa1 back in 2000-2001 and I was oh soooo happy. Been looking ever since for it and like everyone else on here I have tried everything else and nothing worked. Not ecai berry or metabolite or ANYTHING! For a health condition I need to lose a lot of weight fast will this eca stack "really" work because I'll go get it tomorrow! I took the xenadrine when I was 20-21 now 32 does that factor in at all? Thanks guys and gals |
| Charleston-Chris | posted 26-Jul-2012 7:35am @Chef Lucky: Yes Sir the ECA stack is the TRUTH. It really is effective. |
| Kel | posted 26-Jul-2012 10:10am Hey guys, I'M BACKKKKKKKKK :) Pick back up on the stack after taking a couple months off. Over the last 2 months, I’ve gained 5 lbs so now in order to reach my 130 lbs goal, I have 18 lbs to go. Hopefully the 2 month break will jump start these last few. Hey stacking girls, have ya’ll noticed the stack prompts your cycle? ::sorry guys!:: This never happened to me before. During my 2 month hiatus, I would take a dose here and there but it would make me start. It’s doing it again now that I’m back on it 2x/day….weird, huh? |
| Giovanna | posted 7-Oct-2012 8:49pm ,@MD Thanks for visiting and great job on taknig charge of your health!Wow, I've written this article a while ago and it's interesting that my views have somewhat changed on fat burners.I first came across this stack minus the sesamin a long while ago, but the best write up I've seen of this can be found on this bodybuilding.com stubborn fat article</a>.With that said: in general, I wouldn't recommend this stack, the ECA stack, or any fat burners for someone like you. I believe fat burners have a couple uses:Use temporarily to give you a quick jumpstart on your fat loss (e.g. you never worked out before, and you are starting to diet and exercise). This helps with energy levels and gives a great motivational boost.Use temporarily to help you burn off excess fat for some kind of bodybuilding competition.It seems like you are already hardening the f**k up , doing what you need to do, and it'll just take time to get you there. There's no rush to get there right?I'd rather see people cure themselves with good habits and good diet instead of just taknig some pills. Note that when you take fat burners, there will be a point when you will have to stop taknig them (health reasons). The last thing you'll ever want to do is reach a fat loss plateau while on fat burners. This is because when you stop taknig them, you won't know what nutrition and exercise intensity your body needs to even maintain that plateau.Circling back to the diet. What's your macronutrient in your diet exactly? Have you looked into something like intermittent fasting? I'm currently on LeanGain right now, working out 3 days a week, and it's giving me ridiculous results (best shape of my life without using any fat burners). 3 months ago |
| Panhandle Girl | posted 18-Nov-2012 8:48pm Well since I've been here last I don't even live on the Florida panhandle anymore lol.This seems to be the name I've used for the past almost 3 yrs though so figured I'd stick with it lol. Last year of college too and boy is it kicking my butt this year. I think I'm experiencing the freshman 15 4 years late lol. Ugh well I really dont feel like order the Pure Ma Haung that worked so well with Brad the first time. It worked for me the first time and even stopped my bingeing (which is the only thing thats everr worked to stop my bingeing.) I've taken it several times since though with largeee months breaks between but I just never got that effect again. I wonder if they changed it? I really didnt feel anything with the Bronkaid/No Doz/ Apsirin stack either. I'm just at a complete loss and dont know what to try. I've been googling looking for something new to try but I honestly dont trust anyone like I trust you guys. I'd love for something to work for me the way Pure Ma Haung worked the first time. It miraculously stopped my binges and the fat just melted off. Like I said I've used it 6-7 times since looking for that same first bottle experience but I couldn't get it. What should I try? |
| Bob | posted 23-Nov-2012 10:12am Giovanna has a very good point about getting your habits straight instead of using a stack or whatever to reach our weight loss goals. But then those of us that come here on any regular basis seems to swing back and forth on how well we hold up to our regimen. Panhandle Girl I had great luck using the Kaizen Ephedrine HCL. More so than i ever did bronkaid and i felt it helped more than the Ma Haung personally. I believe Brad also used it for a while with success as well. There's currently a place called gorillajack dot com that has it on sale for 50% off the norm. I just order a months supply a week ago and it showed up tuesday from Canada. Maybe that's something you'd like to look into. |
| PanhandleGirl | posted 25-Nov-2012 11:08am Thankyou Bob I'll def look into that right now! |
| Bob | posted 13-Dec-2012 10:13am Let us know how it all works out for you if you decide to try it. |
| PanhandleGirl | posted 20-Jan-2013 11:49pm Well I ordered the Kaizen 8mg like a week ago from GorillaJack. It still isn't here but I also bought asprin the other day at Walmart and they didn't have caffeine pills. I was so shocked. I got no doz from there before but giras they dont sell them anymore. Maybe I'll have coffee or tea or something. Do I need the caffeine? Anyways about how mucj were you losimg on the Kaizen? |
| Kel | posted 23-Jan-2013 9:00pm @Bob what's the combo when using Kaizen Ephedrine HCL 8mg from Gorilla Jack? 2 Kaizen Ephedrine HCL 1 No Doz 1 baby Asprin Bronkaid seems to be constantly recalled and I want a reliable source again. |
| PanhandleGirl | posted 24-Jan-2013 11:19am @Kel today is my 1st day using it, but I'm using 2 Kaizen with 1regular asprin and I don't have caffeine pills yet ,but when I do i'll add them, and then 1 ephedrin in the early afternoon. Cause everyone said 24mg was the best. |
| Kel | posted 28-Jan-2013 10:22am I'm going to try using Primatene now... 2 CVS brand Primatene (Ephedrine HCL 12.5 MG) 1 CVS Caffeine Caplet (200 MG) 1 CVS Low Dose Asprin (81 MG) • Start weight: 184.4 • Current weight: 150.4 • Goal weight: 130 |
| Bob | posted 29-Jan-2013 12:41pm Tried to respond yesterday but my posts kept not showing up so lets try this one last time. PanhandleGirl - Caffeine is required for the stack, aspirin is not. If you haven't picked up some c yet then stop wasting you e for the time being. The combination/synergistic effects of ephedra/caffeine is what gives the amazing weight loss results we all use this combo for. You could always drink a cup of coffee or 2 with each dose. In the past 2 months i've dropped 21 lbs and gone from a 34" to a 32" waist and counting. Kel - Im taking 3 8mg kazien hcl's, 1 200 mg caffeine, 1 regular aspirin 3 times a day. 1st @ 6:30 am, 2nd @ 10-10:30 am and 3rd @ 2-2:30 pm. I get to bed between 9-10 pm and have no problems falling asleep relatively quickly. Bronkaid is gone from the shelves around myself and i haven't seen primatene for an even longer time. Primatene is ephedrine hcl like the kazien brand so using that should be just as good but i found bronkaid to work better than the primatene and the kazein hcl to work better than bronkaid. Go figure. I haven't really been following an exercise regimen. Walking the dog regularly, hiking/playing frisbee golf, etc. I've been collecting the needed supplies to get back in the swing of things recently so a full on exercise routine will be coming in the next couple weeks. As for what/how I eat I avoid fast foods like the plague, eat less in general as my stomach shrank during the initial appetite suppression i got from the stack which is great. I eat breakfast @ 7 am, 1st snack at 9:30 am, lunch @ 12 pm, 2nd snack @ 3:30 pm and dinner at 6-6:30pm. Breakfast usually consists of eggs/toast/potatoes or a bowl of cereal, 1st snack is always half a pack (3) pb cracker sandwiches (95 calories), lunch is usually half a sandwich, slice of pizza, more breakfast or occasionally a burger. 2nd snack is the 2nd half of my crackers and dinner is usually something made up at home (pot roast, chicken w/ rice, pasta, ham w/ potatoes, whatever) but every once in a while i do go out with friends. I think i answered everybodys questions. If there are any more let me know and don't forget to keep us posted on your progress then ladies! |
| PanhandleGirl | posted 4-Feb-2013 10:14pm Thankyou. I think I'll have to order some NoDoz then. I hate s&h charges, but I couldn't find it arpund me gor some strange reason. |
| PanhandleGirl | posted 4-Feb-2013 10:39pm Just ordered so hopefully it will be here by next week and I can resume stacking. Luckily I prob only used like a weeks worth. I'm glad caffeine makes a difference cuz I wasn't really feeling much. |
| Bob | posted 6-Feb-2013 12:15pm PanhandleGirl it doesn't have to be NoDoz brand. Any 200mg caffeine pill that your local drug store or walmart carries will do. In fact you'll find the off brand at walmart, jet alert i think, is a lot less money and has more in each package. |
| Bob | posted 14-Feb-2013 8:25am So how's everybody making out here? |
| Chantal | posted 5-Apr-2013 8:17am Oh no! I'm asthmatic and I also excnrieepe heartburn. So, they can be connected? So many things to consider and so many things to do. As I understand from this, it's a digestion problem. Asthma is respiratory. How can this be linked. I would need to consult a doctor as soon as possible. |
| Dandy | posted 5-Apr-2013 11:42am Hey everyone! Havent been here for a while but have about 10pds that I wanna get rid of an looking to get back on eca. Question, has anyone had the kaizen hcl delivered to usa recently as the gorilla j**k. Website has a disclaimer about not shipping to US. Im in NY u think they will send it anyway? Havent ordered in yrs and I dont remember it saying that upon chk out before. Thanks |
| Bob | posted 8-Apr-2013 1:44pm Dandy, I dont know how recent that message is but i ordered from them 3-4 months ago and a couple months before that without any issues. |
| Dandy | posted 10-Apr-2013 5:37pm Thanks Bob! I will order and post back with how it goes. |
| Bob | posted 16-Apr-2013 3:00pm Let us know how it works out. |
| Dandy | posted 19-Apr-2013 11:09am Placed an order but recieved an email about US orders and them updating their website. Did anyone else get this when ordering from gorilla j**k? Idk |
| Bob | posted 19-Apr-2013 11:57am As far as i can see it's still listed for sale/shipping to the US under the product description/shipping details. You can always try googling the kazien hcl and see what you come up with. There is another site listed somewhere in this topic where a few of us ordered from but i don't recall where that was any more. |
| Dandy | posted 20-Apr-2013 7:19pm This was the notice I recieved. Doesnt say they wont ship, not sure what this actually means Iol. So I will wait a week or so and see. If not ill try something else. Order Confirmation This is a notice to all US and International customers.Canada Post has recently changed its requirements and regulations with regards to US and International shipments originating out of Winnipeg. As a a result there will be an extended delay in shipping your order. We are working on making the necessary technical changes to our website and systems in order to comply with the regulations. Once we have completed the changes to our website and completed testing we will be able to resume shipments. You will be contacted at that time to see if you would like to continue with your order. Hope all is well with everyone else Thanks |
| Bob | posted 23-Apr-2013 9:57am That doesn't appear to be a refusal to ship. It's just that your order is on hold and they'll double check with you if you still want it when they can ship. I'm quite curious how this will turn out as i'm sure i'll end up ordering some more in the future. |
| Dandy | posted 24-Apr-2013 3:52pm I agree, thats why I made mention that I will wait. The confusion was the whole website regulations and testing comments lol. Also, I ordered from there over a year ago and never recieved any message so I just wondered if something was a muck. Well no charge to the card and no word as of yet. I will definately let you guys know. Til then I will implement my no carbs after 3pm and see how I fare . Off course I will also have to start my TapOut XT. Sheesh what we do for beauty :) |
| amanda | posted 25-Apr-2013 6:46pm has anyone tried hellfire? does it work? |
| Bob | posted 30-Apr-2013 11:12am The different kinds of ephedra and which ones are effective and which aren't have been explained a few times through out this thread. You should go back and find that info. With that knowledge you should be able to determine if those pills are worth the purchase or not. A lot of the "legal ephedra" diet pills on the market these days don't have the effective kind in them and there for aren't worth the trouble. I tried green stingers a while back. While quite powerful stimulant wise, i hated how they made me feel and stopped taking them after a week or two. |
| Dandy | posted 2-May-2013 9:37am @Amanda-Nope I never heard of it @Bob- Still no word yet :( |
| Bob | posted 13-May-2013 10:44am Thanks for keeping us updated. Sucks there still hasn't been any word. I've got about a 2 week supply left so i'm very interested in how this all turns out for you. |
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