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Xenadrine RFA-1


Xenadrine RFA-1 was a discontinued Ephedra-based diet pill.


Xenadrine RFA-1 was one of the most popular brands of Ephedra-based diet pills. It's a stimulant that reduces your appetite and causes you to burn more calories as well.

But, Ephedra was banned by the FDA after 2003. It was linked to many deaths. It causes your heart rate and blood pressure to go up. So, it can cause heart-attacks in people with weak hearts.

Xenadrine RFA-1 is no longer available in the USA.


Xenadrine RFA-1 was made by Cytodyne Technologies. Since it was discontinued, they have put an Ephedra-free product on the market, Xenadrine EFX.


Ephedrine has been shown to have serious adverse effects, include hypertension (elevated blood pressure), palpitations (rapid heart rate), neurophathy (nerve damage), myopathy (muscle injury), psychosis, stroke, memory loss, heart rate irregularities, insomnia, nervousness, tremors, seizures, heart attacks, and death.

Also, studies have shown that Ephedrine-based supplements only provide short-term weight loss.


Related Diets:   Stimerex   Xenadrine EFX   Nuphedragen   Phentramine   Phenhermine  

  29-Jun-2006 9:42am created by bill
  29-Jun-2006 9:57am last update by bill

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posted 9-Jul-2006 3:03pm

my friend use to take these pills and it really work until one day he was having heart problems and having hard time to breath so he stop
posted 9-Jul-2006 9:43pm

I've heard a lot of people say Ephedra works... it's too bad it's so dangerous (apparently).
posted 3-Dec-2006 12:33am

i lost 60 lbs taking xenadrine rfa 1 and wish that i could find it somewhere!!! I've aeen in in auctions but for over a hundred dollars! thats crazy but worth it. Everything we take or do in life has cautions! It needs to go back on the market!!!
posted 20-Dec-2006 3:52pm

I also took xenadrine rfa-1 after I had a baby and lost 62 lbs with it, and I continued to take it right up till it was banned. I never, ever had any adverse effects from it! No jitters, no heart problems...Since then i gained 12 lbs back and have not been able to lose them no matter what I ate or worked out and now that I'm older (11 yrs since I first took it) it's getting harder to keep the weight off. I too wish it would come back on the market. Never seen it at auction but if I did I would buy it in a heart beat!!!
posted 20-Feb-2007 10:48pm

I really enjoyed xenadrine rfa-1, and I too was sad when it was banned. It gave me the energy I needed to climb out of a deep depression and start taking care of myself again. Yeah I lost about 70 lbs. roughly and did not gain then back. I can understand the controversy surrounding this ingredient, there are side effects, but side effects much worse than these accompany numerous prescription medications prescribed every day by doctors. I have taken a few prescription medications listing horrific side effects and when I addressed them with my doctor I was told that the side effects outweigh the benefits of the pills. This is how I feel about ephedrine. I think that people are seeing this as an herbal supplement and therefore overlooking the suggested dosage, but just like with prescription meds if you abuse them you will have complications.
posted 22-Apr-2007 12:34pm

i have also have taken xenadrine rfa. it help me lose weight and curve appetite. i was 160 to 130 and a size four for my wedding. my advice to the people that was abusing the pills and did not get themselves check by their doctor regularly think before using the pills, dont touch any more diet pills ,do your research first, see your doctor for examination. i am working even harder since the pills been banned, i have been trying other diet pills and they dont work. now i am ordering them from the company.
posted 12-Oct-2007 11:56pm

Xenadrine RFA was by far the most incredible fat burner ever created. I took it for several years and felt fine. It worked well and assisted me with maintaining an incredible figure. The FDA or whomever need to re-evaluate their decision to ban this product. It is amazing to me when you hear the commercials on TV about pills that have been created for high cholestrol, impotence, etc... and the side effects sound worse then the problem, BUT those pills are OK. I'm sorry if ephedra was suspect in some individuals deaths, but so are these other pills that are prescribed daily by doctors. If the FDA banned all pills that killed people, there would be no pills left for anything, even headaches. It all has to do with MONEY!!! Bring back Xenadrine RFA.....
posted 12-Feb-2008 7:20pm

where can you find xenzdrine rfa?
posted 19-Feb-2008 2:09pm

I took Xenadrine RFA & it was the best thing I ever did! I am so so sad that it was taken off the market. They say there is no such thing as a Miracle Pill? Well.... they are wrong, there was one & it was Xenadrine RFA & just like always when something works good they have to jack it up!
posted 24-Mar-2008 2:28pm

U can actually get megadrine rfa-1 on the sites which is the exact same product :)
Mysupplementshop or has them :)
posted 31-Mar-2008 7:28pm

I took it and lost 50 pounds in about 3 or 4 months, I miss the stuff really bad, Ive seen similiar products that claim they are the same as the original product... I dont know but Im thinking of trying it, you can find similiar products just by doing google searches
posted 15-Apr-2008 5:04pm

I used to take Xenadrine RFA-1 and achieved awesome, awesome results. I did have the jitters at first until my body adapted to it, but then I was fine. Best weight loss/fat buring supplement ever!!!! Would pay double than I did before!
posted 17-Jun-2008 6:08pm

Can u find Xenadrine rfa-1 anywhere?
posted 27-Jul-2008 4:00pm

I took it a few years back and I dropped about 35 pounds in about a month and a half. It worked like a charm...I wish I could find it now.
posted 23-Sep-2008 10:59pm

They put it back on the market.I just bought it today at Albertsons ( grocery store) I will be starting it tomorrow. wish me luck! btw- it cost me 28$ for 60 pills...
posted 25-Sep-2008 4:45pm

I actually found it at Walmart yesterday for $20 for 60 pills...strange though, I found it sitting with the vitamins and nowhere near the weightloss pills...AND it was the only one of it's kind.
posted 25-Sep-2008 6:24pm

Sarabellum, is it Xenadrine RFA-1 or Xenadrine EFX? EFX is still on the market because it doesn't contain Ephedrine.

I just did a search on Walmarts website and they didn't have anything.
posted 25-Sep-2008 6:58pm

I used to use RFA-1 as well and I lost close to 50lbs in a 4 months period. I was really bummed when it was taken off the market. I actually went into a GNC the day it was removed and that's how I found out it was gone.

BUT, but for those of you who wish you could still take it, you can. If you do research on why RFA-1 worked you'll find out it was because it was based around the ECA stack. The ECA stack is 20mg of Ephedrine HCL/200mg of Caffeine/300mg of Asprin. All of the other ingredients were basically just the frosting on the caked (the cake being the ECA stack).

So basically what I'm saying is that you can make this at home for a fraction of what RFA-1 used to cost.

You can go to to buy pure Ephedrine HCL

You can buy 200mg caffeine pills at your local supermarket along with asprin

So far it's working great for me.
posted 25-Sep-2008 7:43pm

Okay, I did a little more research in regards to those that claim to have purchased RFA-1 recently.

It is indeed back on the market, but it is NOT the same as it used to be. There is no Ephedrine in it (which is why it worked so well). Also, it is not made by the same company anymore. It used to be made by CYTODYNE and is now being made by CYTOGENIX. So it looks as if another company has simply just bought the Xenadrine RFA-1 name and slapped it on their bottle.

I've looked for reviews of this new version, but can't find them anywhere.


Also, to Brad above me who recommended the ECA stack, I did some research on that as well and I am going to give it a try.
posted 30-Sep-2008 8:19pm

i also have used the old rfa-1 i lost 30 pounds in 1 month and my cousin used it and lost 100 pounds in like 6 months and kept it off its been 5 years now sence then ive had two kids and ive tried everything nothing works like rfa-1 i would pay anything for the original but its long gone :(
posted 4-Oct-2008 4:58pm

I also used to take Xenadrine RFA-1 and lost 30 lbs. I only ever took half of the recommended dosage and I lost all of the weight really fast. Obviously I was ticked when I couldnt buy it any more and have since gained the 30 lbs back. I would like to comment on what Rozko stated above that you can buy Megadrine RFA-1 as it is exactly the same thing. I can assure you, Megadrine RFA-1 is *NOT* the same as the original Xenadrine RFA-1. In fact, most products hat claim to be same as Xenadrine are not and it's because of one reason; Xenadrine used Ephedrine alkaloids and these other products use ephedra extract. It is the alkaloids that make the difference. Do not be fooled. I have spent tons of money trying these products that claim to be exactly the same as Xenadrine only to be let down time and again which is why I started doing my research and learned what the difference is the ALKALOIDS that make the product work. I have since found products on the internet with alkaloids that do work, they just arent as good as Xenadrine was but they are doing something...
posted 6-Oct-2008 7:57am

I used xenadrine rfa years ago and lost about 70 pounds. I have used all kinds of diets since they took it off the market and still havent found anything like it. I need xenadrine rfa because it was like a miracle in a bottle. No diet no exercise no surgery it don't get not better than that.
posted 8-Oct-2008 5:46am

I've lost over 50 lbs in the first year I used Xenadrine RFA and kept it off. I've lost a total of over 75 lbs to date.
That stuff worked for me without any side effects.
Where can I find it? Or are there any diet pill products that works the same way?
posted 10-Oct-2008 11:42pm

Brad. I looked up the stuff you were talking about. How do you go about taking it? Do u take them all as seperate pills or what? What MG of Ephedrine HCL did you purchase and what results have you gotten from it? I just want to know because if it really does work Id love to try it as soon as possible. Hope you can help me! also has anyone researched these pills called "yellow bullets" if you read the label it says that it contains Mu Haung Ephedra, not Ephedra Extract (leaves) like most of the other products, it seems promising but I dont want to waste money on it if its worthless. Let me know. Thanks.
posted 15-Oct-2008 1:07am

I took the old rfa-1 years ago, 2002 was the last time, and it was awesome, dropped 80lbs in 3 months. But, I do think my PVC's (look it up, its a heart murmur type thing) began because of this product. I dont think i would use ephedra again, but I may ask my doc about this new product.
posted 17-Oct-2008 12:12pm

I used xenadrine rfa-1 when i was only 16yr. I had gained over 25 pounds in 1 mth after i found out i was pregnant and i had an abortion. I was depressed and i ended up losing 85 lbs in 3-4 mths after I starting to take the drug. I never had a problem with my breathing or anything, but i tell you if it wasn't for the drug i would have killed myself because i felt hopeless and fat. I wish they would put it back on the market. I think the ones who had complications were people who have history of those complications already either by famil or life style.
posted 18-Oct-2008 4:14pm


I have heard of "Yellow Bullets" but I don't personally know anyone who has purchased/ordered them.

Like someone posted above you, make sure you read the fine print. Even though a product says that it contains ephedrine or ephedra, doesn't mean that it's the right kind (as in the same that was in RFA-1). From the looks of it, the Yellow Bullets seem legit and could possibly be the same as RFA-1.

As far as the ECA stack and my experience with it: The site I originally quoted on here (, you can purchased Ephedrine HCL through them. I wouldn't recommend buying anything other than the Kaizen brand though. Kaizen is a very reputable company that makes many, many different diet and workout supplements. You can do a search on them through Google and see for yourself.

Now here's the kicker when buying epehdrine HCL online. If you live in the United States, you have to order it through a Canadian based company and have it shipped to you. There is NO WHERE (that I know of) in the U.S. that sells epehdrine HCL (legally). It is illegal for ANY diet supplement to contain Ephedrine or Ephedra in the U.S. due to the FDA ban, hence why everything has to be purchased from Canada.

Now that you understand that, also know that in Canada it is illegal to make any ephedrine pills containing more than 8mg of ephedrine HCL. So if you see somewhere offering more than 8mg tablet, stay away. They might be legit in the sense that they are real, but they are not legal. If it's not legal, then it probably wasn't made by a reputable company. So stick with Kaizen. It is 100% pure ephedrine HCL in 8mg tablets.

Now on to dosing, I am taking three doses daily right now. 1 when I wake up, 1 around noonish and the last one around 4 pm. Each dose that I take contains 24mg of Ephedrine HCL (3 Kaizen tablets) / 200mg of caffeine (1 No Doze tablet) / and 1 325mg Asprin (Generic, no name brand).

I have been taking this formula for about a week now and it has the same effect that RFA-1 had. My appetite is completely gone, loads of energy. However, my scale says that I have only lost about 3-5lbs this week. It's hard to tell yet whether that is just water weight, or actually body fat. My jeans do seem to be a little looser though. It's still too early to really know if it's working or not.

If you wanted, you could always go and buy Xenadrine RFA-1 (this is the new formula that is being sold without ephedra). Order some Kaizen ephedrine online and then take those with the Xenadrine which would give you exactly what it used to be.

Hope this helps.
posted 21-Oct-2008 1:26am

Brad..thanks for your help. let me know how it works after a little bit of time. a friend of mine told me he bought pure ephedra hcl on a website "" he said that a friend of his lost 75lbs in 2 months using the 30mg pills, and my friend himself is losing weight quickly. I dont know if you want to check it out and tell me what you think. I just want to make sure I am reading and understanding this correctly..can i order the kaizen straight from the sndonline website? or do i have to do something else? sorry if i seem slow lol.
posted 22-Oct-2008 10:35pm

Brad, how has the doses worked this week? I was given the recommendation to try Lipodrene with Ephedra. it is the extract type. Know anything about this? I feel the appetite suppressant effects, and if i take 2 tablets, the old xenadrine rfa jittery feeling comes back to me. I have decent energy too, but i would like to get the ephedra alkaloids. I checked that web site you mentioned with the 8mg kaizen. if i understand you correctly, you are taking 3 8mg tablets three times a day? let me know, thanks, Dan
posted 30-Oct-2008 1:03am

So has anyone had any results with the "NEW" Xenodrine RFA-1? Is it really the same as the original formula?
posted 30-Oct-2008 6:09pm

I lost about 35 pounds with the original formula in 2002 in one summer. Then, afterwards, the new formula gave me really bad side effects. Since I've started taking the new RFA, I've noticed that I do not feel the same as the original formula and in fact, my experiences are pretty similar to the EFX. I think I will d/c it because of the SE
posted 31-Oct-2008 3:48pm

I'm currently taking the new RFA 1 and it's horrible...Constant pain and I've only been taking it for a week and a half. Side effects include, SEVERE nausea, constant headaches, vomiting, dizziness and insomnia.

It's just not worth it.
posted 9-Nov-2008 12:09pm

I've been taking the RFA-1 for 11 weeks today and lost 24.8 lbs so far. It hasn't made me jittery...but I eat along with it....I think thats the key. If i take it and dont eat, it gives me the jitters.
posted 10-Nov-2008 1:09pm

I used the original Xenadrine and it was quite effective. It knocked out my hunger. I'm not overweight but (although I work out faithfully)I have no discipline when it comes to food. I love food...and snacking.
I find myself working out to lose the potential inches gained from overeating.

Anyway--RFX did nothing for me. I just ordered the 'new' Xenadrine from GNC. I thought I was ordering the old formula. I assume responsibility for what happens to me. But the truth of the matter is, I used it off/on for almost 2 yrs (1 pill per day, increased water intake, diet and proper exercise) with NO headache/vomiting/dizziness. I had no issues.

...and I saw that Xenadrine was taken off because some ppl were dying? Well, everyone isn't able to handle every pill out there. That goes for meds/ diet pills, etc... If your meds don't agree w/you then your doc will attempt to switch u to another brand/type. Anyway, how did these individuals use these pills?

IMO, they took it off the market because it was TOO effective.
BTW, has anyone looked at the medication that these seniors are taking...? My 71 aunt takes welfarin (a generic of the Coumadin/blood-thinner). According to the warnings taking this medication COULD produce yellow eyes/skin, coffee ground-like vomit, pain and swelling for no good reason and/or black stools (among other things)...before it POSSIBLY kills her.
I swear, one of her meds even mentioned the word 'hemorrhaging'.

Anyway I bought the Xenadrine. Hopefully, it performs as well as the old version.
posted 11-Nov-2008 4:26am

hey Brad is that working for you? PLEASE let us know?
posted 11-Nov-2008 4:37am

hey its me again i can not find the web site for the Ephedrine H.C.L. how do you gogle it?
posted 15-Nov-2008 10:05pm

Sorry it's been so long since I've responded on here.

I wish I could say that it has worked (in the sense of losing weight), but it hasn't produced a single lost pound in almost one month. Not one.

But I do feel it giving me the same effects and RFA-1 used. Loss of appetite, loads of energy throughout the day.

But to be fair and perfectly honest, I haven't done any exercising like I did when I used to take RFA-1. So it's not fair for me to say that it doesn't work. There's a lot of information out there proving that it works. This isn't a miracle pill/combo that will let you lose weight without trying.

As far as the website, it's to buy Ephedrine HCL.

I plan to get back into my running routine of doing 1-3 miles each night. I'll update again on here after I start doing that and post the results.

If that doesn't work, then my last try will be to purchase those Yellow Bullets.

To search for stuff on the web about the ECA stack, just go to Google and type "ECA Stack". You find all the info you need.
posted 16-Nov-2008 8:20pm

Hey been taking the new xenadrine rfa-1 for 6 weeks have not had any side effects on me lost about 9 pounds was 165, now 156, its been great for me, i work out but not really tough drink shakes in the morning and salad with some grilled meats and ive seen great results
posted 17-Nov-2008 4:19pm

has anyone else out there had any results with taking their own ECA stack? i really wanted to try it but i always get bummed out when i hear that it didnt work for other people and it makes me not want to try it. so if you have let me know. ive came across some other pills similar to the yellow bullets that seem pretty legit but its hard to tell whats good and whats a scam so let me know guys. id appreciate it as well many other people on here. if you want to email me go head.
posted 18-Nov-2008 12:06am


For those looking at Yellow Bullets, STAY AWAY!

If you read the fine print on the back of the bottle, it says at the very bottom "Does not contain ephedrine alkaloids". Ephedrine Alkaloids are what was in RFA-1 that allowed it to work the way it did.

This isn't my update post, but I wanted to warn those of you on here that are thinking about buying those. I know I almost did until I looked a little deeper into the product. Would have been a complete waste of money.
posted 18-Nov-2008 6:18pm

thanks brad. i think i am just going to order the kaizen 8mg pills and try it out. ive been reading alot of forums and alot of people have said that kaizen are good pills and its a good company to order from. so hopefully that will work for me. im debating on if i want to make my own stack with the caffiene and aspirin or just take the ephedra with the new xenadrine pills like you said.
posted 18-Nov-2008 9:03pm

Okay, so maybe I am a little confused. So has ANYONE on here had any results with the NEW RFA-1?? I have recently noticed a weight gain, and even though I have been going to the gym every other day for the past 4 months and running anywhere from 3-6 miles, and eating right I can't seem to drop the weight. Everyone just tells me that I am genetically made to be bigger...and I don't want to accept that as an excuse!! I went to Wal-Mart and the new RFA-1 was SOLD OUT! but before I purchased it I wanted to make sure that someone out there was getting results! I have never used a diet supplement, but I had heard good things about RFA-1. Also, what about EFX? I just wanted to see if anyone had any advice on which one to try! Thanks!!
posted 18-Nov-2008 10:43pm

okay, so I have spent the last few hours researching the different formulas. I have heard great reviews about both, but I am still wanting to hear something from someone on here. I am so nervous to try this stuff, but I really need to get rid of this fat!!
posted 25-Nov-2008 10:06am

They sell Xenadrine RFA-1 at Walmart. I know, i couldn't find it for the longest time, but they are selling it again.
posted 26-Nov-2008 9:07pm

ok i've jsut purchased this stuff at walmart, and after reading the history from this thread, I thought it was banned already? The one i bought is the FA-1 type. I remember seeing ones of with out the ephedrine, does the one i bought have it?
posted 28-Nov-2008 11:47am

Does anyone know if you can buy the original xenadrine in Canada?
posted 28-Nov-2008 11:47am

Or maybe overseas?
posted 28-Nov-2008 1:46pm

I read on a website that the FDA lifted the ban on ephedrine. Does anyone know if thats true?
posted 28-Nov-2008 2:45pm

The ban on ephedrine was lifted a couple of years ago by a judge. But it was quickly banned again by another judge. So ephedrine alkaloids in diet pills are still banned in the U.S..

For those that are seeing and buying Xenadrine RFA-1 in stores again, it is NOT the same thing. It's not even made by the same company. The original company was Cytodyne. There are no ephedrine alkaloids in it. Without those, it's pretty useless.

As far as if you can buy the old RFA-1 overseas, no. It's just not made anymore.
posted 29-Nov-2008 10:38am

Brad is correct about RFA-1. The new company is basically using the name "RFA-1" as a marketing gimmick for their latest formula. It's obviously been fooling a lot of people who loved the original RFA-1 into thinking it was back on the market.
posted 30-Nov-2008 11:47am

I really loved the original RFA too, it really worked for me. I have been hunting on the internet to find something comparable and came across a website that claims to have the original Xenadrine RFA-1 with the exact same ingredients, just under a different name. Superdrine RX10. The website offers tons of ephedra based products. I was wondering if anyone has bought anything from this website. the website is: Let me know what you find out. Thanks
posted 30-Nov-2008 3:36pm

I did a little more research and came across Zenalean Pro off of the website from my previous post. They list the ingredients as Vitamin B-5 22.5mg, Bitter Orange 42.5mg, Ephedra 10mg ephedrine alkaloids, Guarana 455mg, White Willow Bark/Tyrosine/Acetyl-L-carnitine/Green Tea blend 187.5mg. I no longer have the ingredients from the original Xenadrine RFA-1 but this sounds like the same ingredients to me. Does anyone know for sure?
posted 1-Dec-2008 5:27pm

i too had great results from the original rfa-1 ..
anyways got a new bottle from walmart -- thinking it was the same thing .. and from reading ads in magazines -- what a waste of money ... did nothing for me ... no energy boost or appetite loss...
really wish they'd bring the original one back ....
posted 1-Dec-2008 5:51pm

Xenadrine RFA-1 is working for me i'm on my third week, lost my appetite and always on the go. Went to Big 5 and bought a jump rope and actually using it. my cloths fit a little better and I eat a whole lot lest on it, skip one day and i ate like a pig, you know how it is. I have hope with this one, but waiting to see the Big result.
posted 2-Dec-2008 4:44pm

I had great success with the original RFA-1, too, and had reached the point where I was taking maybe 1 pill per week and that was enough to maintain my weight. Since it was taken off the market I've had a number of things happen that helped put the weight back on, and now I'm battling to lose 10-15 pounds again. I've tried all sorts of things on the market, including the new RFA-1, and so far, nothing has done a thing for me.

Brad, I'd love to hear if your regimen is successful.
posted 2-Dec-2008 6:27pm

Sheri, I'd be skeptical to any diet supplement being sold in the United States that states it has "ephedrine alkaloids." Anything marketed as a "diet supplement" with Ephedrine is against the Supreme Court ruling and the US Patriot Act of 2005. You are absolutely right in regards to the ingredients sounding like Xenadrine RFA-1's original formula. I have never ordered that particular brand since the banning of ephedrine in diet supplements. I recall ordering a few bottles of Zenalean back in 2004 before the ban and they were just as good as the original Xenadrin RFA-1. I don't know what to tell you about the current formula, but if they offer a money back guarantee or something, I would say go for it and see what happens.
posted 2-Dec-2008 7:09pm

Well I took a chance and ordered the Zelalean pro. I emailed the wholesale website and they told me they have had no problems shipping these products out. They also stated that there is a ban on manufacturing ephedra products but not selling them. The product was shipped to me yesterday. I live in Canada so I will see how long it takes. I am really optimistic :) I truly hope this product will be just as good as the original RFA but I guess only time will tell. I will keep you posted.
posted 3-Dec-2008 12:02am

Like many of you, I lost about 20 pounds with the original RFA-1. So is the general consensus that the NEW formula does not work? I'm hearing a little bit on both sides. Is it worth going out and spending money? It's too bad they took the original off the market, it seems like a lot of people had great success. I was under the impression that the ban was lifted, so ephedra was being sold again...
posted 6-Dec-2008 2:27pm

Sheri - Please update once you receive your order and let us know how it works.

To the post above mine, I would stay away from the new RFA-1. Like I already mentioned, it is NOT the same thing as before. It has some of the same ingredients, but it's missing the main thing that worked: Epehdrine Alkaloids. I saw it in GNC recently for $54.99 and it was locked behind a case just like it used to be when I used to buy it. It's tempting I know, but don't fall for it.

I've come to a couple of conclusions on why it was banned and I'm sure it's going to sound like a conspiracy theory but it makes sense. There are multiple diet pills that are available through prescription only that are made by large pharm companies. They potentially were going to lose millions and millions of dollars because people didn't need to go to a doctor anymore for them because they could simply go to a store and buy something that worked the same, if not better.

There are HUNDREDS of medications that have side effects much, much worse than Ephedrine. Side effects such as death even. But these are still legal and not banned.

The more I read about this stuff, the more I hate the FDA. It's all about money.

I'm done venting.
posted 7-Dec-2008 12:25am

Dude... the Original Xenadrine RFA-1 was awesome. I lost like 30lbs it seemed in weeks. But it was unfortunate that it was banned - was very disappointing (I'd say some folks abused the dosages). But, shoot it worked, well, too well.

Anyway, I was intrigued to learn about the New Xenadrine RFA-1 (I'm putting myself on a little trial test - started today) ... I'll keep ya'll posted if it works out in the next few weeks.

I found this out about the Ephedra Information:

Ephedra Effects - About Ephedra Sinica ("Ma Huang") - Ephedra Reviews

Ephedra is an alkaloid chemical compound traditionally obtained from the plant Ephedra Sinica, (otherwise known in the Chinese language as Ma Huang). It is a plant based substance used in traditional Chinese medicine for over 5,000 years, often used in the treatment of various respiratory, cold and hay fever related conditions. In more recent times, Ephedra has also been used extensively around the world as a performance-enhancing substance, which is now prohibited in most competitive sports events, as well as for a non-prescription weight loss supplement. Ephedra is known for its thermogenic (fat burning) properties and subsequent positive metabolic increase. In addition, various derivatives of Ephedra have since been synthesized to treat low blood pressure.

The ephedra stacker, also known as the ECA Stack (ephedra, caffeine, aspirin), was the most popular ephedra supplement used within the sports and bodybuilding community.

Ephedra Ban - Lifted and then Reinstated

In response to reported side effects of Ephedra, the FDA commissioned the Rand Corporation to conduct an extensive meta-analysis of Ephedra's safety and efficacy. This study confirmed that Ephedra promoted weight loss, but also exposed users to potential side effects and health risks such as heart attack, stroke or death. The FDA later proposed a ruling that would limit the sale of Ephedra products containing 8 mg or more of ephedrine alkaloids, as well as require stricter labeling that warns of potential side effects and health risks. In 2004, the FDA sought to ban the sale of Ephedra based supplements. However a lawsuit brought by an Ephedra manufacturer to mitigate this ban was upheld by a Federal District Court judge in 2005, thereby temporarily lifting the ban on ephedra. In August 2006, the FDA appealed the ruling and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit overturned the lower court ruling and upheld the FDA's ban of ephedra. In May 2007, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the final appeal, thereby leaving the FDA ban in effect. Note: See the section Is Ephedra Legal below for a full discussion of the current legality of various types of ephedra.

Ephedra Outlet fully supports the FDA's ban on ephedrine alkaloids, as well as advancing the requirement for all manufacturers to provide full disclosure of potential side effects and health risks. In keeping with the foregoing, Ephedra Outlet is taking the formative step of adding appropriate disclosures for consumers to limit daily consumption of products containing Ephedra Viridis, Mormon Tea, and/or Ephedra Extract, and further, only offering such products to qualified adult purchasers who strictly adhere to the terms, conditions, warranties and representations required for use of this Site.

Is Ephedra Legal?

As you may have already guessed, the short answer is Yes (ephedra viridis) and No (ephedra sinica). Note: ephedra sinica is also known as Ma Huang and ephedra viridis is also known as Mormon Tea.

The quick answer: When looking to buy ephedra, search for products advertising either: (1) Ephedra Viridis, (2) Mormon Tea, or (3) Ephedra Extract. All three of these options refer to ephedra that is not subject to the FDA ban.

The full story: There are many different species of ephedra around the world and it is important to note that the FDA did not ban them all. They actually did not ban the ephedra plant at all. The ephedra ban specifically targeted the active ingredient, ephedrine alkaloids, usually found in ephedra sinica. If you find ephedrine alkaloids or active ephedrine alkaloids on a product label, the product is probably included in the FDA ban. In order to comply with the FDA ban, avoid products advertising either: (1) ephedra sinica, (2) ephedrine alkaloids, or (3) active ephedrine alkaloids.

Special Note: The ephedra ban does not apply to the pharmaceutical industry. They continue to use ephedrine and pseudoephedrine in products like Claritin D TM and Pseudofed TM (both behind the pharmacy counter).

History of Ephedra Weight Loss Products and Ephedra Stacker Supplements

Ephedra species are tall shrubs with many branches. Ephedra plants mostly grow in the desert. There are many different species of ephedra found around the world. The most popular is ephedra sinica or ma huang, found in Asia. The remaining species of ephedra have become extremely popular since the FDA ban on ephedrine alkaloids took effect: ephedra viridis, ephedra nevadensis, ephedra gerardiana, ephedra distacha (European ephedra), and ephedra americana.

Over 5000 years ago ephedra (under the name Ma huang) was used in Chinese medicine to treat several disorders. Amongst others, asthma and bronchitis were treated with ephedra. Ephedra comes from a plant that has a few powerful active compounds, of which ephedrine is the most useful. More information on the chemical connections in the extraction of the active substances follows.

Over the last few years ephedra has gained much more attention for its side-effects: an increased metabolism, plus the thermeogenic and fat burning qualities that come along with that. This gives the body stimulation and provides energy. These qualities made ephedra a popular weight-loss supplement and sports supplement.

China has used ephedra sinica for medicinal purposes since approximately 2800 B.C. Ma Huang, the stem and branch, and Ma Huanggen, the root and rhizome were used to treat different ailments. Ma Huang was often used in the treatment of various respiratory, cold and hay fever related conditions, as well as arthritis. Ma Huanggen was primarily only prescribed to alleviate night sweats. In 1923, the western world took interest in ephedra once the ephedrine alkaloids were able to be isolated. Since 1927, both ephedrine and pseudoephedrine have been in continual use as OTC decongestants and allergy treatments.

*Information presented is for educational purposes only; statements about products and health conditions have not been evaluated by the U.S. Food & Drug Administration.
posted 8-Dec-2008 5:40pm

Brad, I just received my Zelalean today in the mail. It only took a week to get to Canada, not bad. I'm going to start taking it tomorrow and I'll update you as the week goes on.
posted 9-Dec-2008 5:56pm

I am Taking Xenadrine Rfa-1 and it is doing well with me..It is making me feel smaller alreay..Has anyone lost 20 pounds in a month on this
posted 10-Dec-2008 2:01am

amber- is that the new formula that does not contain ephedra?
posted 10-Dec-2008 2:18pm

The new Clinical Strength Xenadrine Rfa-1 works...ENUF SAID.
posted 10-Dec-2008 5:48pm

hey guys. im starting my diet today. i have ephedrine hcl and the new rfa-1. im combining the rfa-1 with 25mg of ephedra 3 times a day. ill let u know how it works. ill tell u what it gives you a rush and makes you sweat. lol. good luck guys and wish me luck!!
posted 11-Dec-2008 12:32pm

I have been only taking this rfa-1 for6 days and I have lost 5 pounds... I don't know if this is healthy or not but this
* I wake up take 2 capsules and then wait 30 to 60 minutes before i eat ( like the bottle says) they I drink my Shake..But I want eat again until 5:00 in the evening because im not hungry.. I dont have any bad side effects i just stay busy and on the other hand i do have a 17 month old dayghter and a 3month old son. so they keep me on my toesis 5 pounds to much to lose this fast! not for me lol
posted 11-Dec-2008 3:31pm

Heather that sounds like a lot of ephedra if you're stacking. I would recommend no more than 25mg.
posted 11-Dec-2008 3:31pm

Sorry 25mg twice a day.
posted 11-Dec-2008 3:33pm

Amber that sounds quick but it depends on how overweight you are. I can understand that pace being okay if you are very overweight.
posted 12-Dec-2008 12:00am

ephedrine supporter. all the things ive looked at everyone says to take 25 mgs 3 times a day. what is your expierence with the drug and what do you think i should do that would help me get good results? also..i dont know if you would know but do you know if kaizen ephedrine hcl is a good brand. all the forums and things ive looked at said that it is a very reputable company and has a good quality product. i just want to make sure im not wasting my time taking something that wont work when theres something out there that could do you know what im saying? do me a favor and email me! id appreciate it.!
posted 12-Dec-2008 8:34pm

If you feel fine, then take what you're going to take. On top of that, if you can get the same effect from 50mg and 75mg, why not take less and stretch out the bottle?
posted 13-Dec-2008 12:20am

i did try that. i took 50 one day and 75 the next to see the difference, the only thing about the 50 is obviously it doesnt last as long as the 75mg because its one less dose so i get really tired and also really cold, as a result of being warmed up all day from the ephedrine. i havent decided what i want to do yet. I feel fine though, obviously i get a little jittery and i can feel my heart beating fast but im used to that on account of taking caffiene pills on occasion. if i start feeling different i will lower it to 50mg or maybe even 25. thanks for your input though i appreciate it. did you happen to find out if the kaizen ephedrine hcl was a good brand to take? what are you expierences with it?
posted 13-Dec-2008 1:09pm

I am 5'7 I weighed 197 and I weight 188 now..I want to weigh 160 and I would be great..I am just tall i dont want to look so skinny and not have no meat on me..I am not eating that much but I am eating. Just dont get that hungry..
posted 14-Dec-2008 1:29pm

Zenalean update. I started taking it on Tuesday..1 pill in the morning and 1 pill early afternoon. I lost 2.5 lbs from Tuesday to Friday. I am taking half of the recommended dosage and I have not exercised or changed my eating habits. I do find that I am not very hungry and I feel I have more energy. It's hard to tell how good these pill are or are not yet as it's only been a few days. I'll keep you posted.
posted 14-Dec-2008 8:28pm

Sheri, I would like to know your starting weight, if you don't mind me asking. Its good for comparisons.
posted 14-Dec-2008 8:31pm

Brad, That SNDonline website seems to sell doses above that 8mg recommended legality. Is it legit to order the 10mg, or 30's of there? Does anyone else recommend a better place?
posted 14-Dec-2008 8:32pm

Heather, Kaizen is a very respected brand of Ephedrine and is good to take based on what I hear and read. I don't have personal experience with this brand, however. I have taken another brand of Ephedrine from Perfect Nutrition (Canadian Brand) that has given me good results in an ECA stack.
posted 14-Dec-2008 11:25pm

First I would like to say that I have enjoyed reading all your comments as I fined them very helpful....Although I am a little confused. I live in Canada, and I have found the Xenadrine™ RFA-1 made by Cytodyne Technologies It states this right on the box, It is not Xenadrine EFX, also I had read that Muscle Tech the same manufactures who make Hydroxycut have now bought out the name Xenadrine but again Xenadrine™ RFA-1) clearly reads Cytodyne Technologies it also does not say Ephedrine free or that it is a new Xenadrine™ RFA-1. So maybe you can see how I am confused about all this. I can tell you that I have started the pills today only taking 2 rather then the recommened dose and it killed my appetite. I have 20 pounds to lose and will keep you updated. I bought Xenadrine™ RFA-1 at Walmart in Ontario, Canada for 25 bucks. If anyone as any more knowledge on this product or can shed some light that would great! Will be back soon.
posted 14-Dec-2008 11:34pm

SORRY made a mistake on the package it does read new formula and is made by Cytogenix Lab.
posted 15-Dec-2008 6:42am

well I've been on the new xenadrine for about 2 weeks now and how already lost 10 LBS....I love it to be honest....I dont feel sick when taking them and i dont get dizzy or anything like curves your appetite like crazy which is awesome lol....i dont have any complaints
posted 15-Dec-2008 5:50pm

I Love this Pill..Its great!!! I am losing my weight very good..Faster than I thought..I dont find myself beig hungry like i was beofre taking this pill..I have lots more energy and find more time to doother things besides eating. I was 198 before i started taking this pill and now I am 189.4 in a week and a half!! Its amazing !
posted 16-Dec-2008 12:28pm

wow that is awesome....I was 198 as well and now I'm 184.5 2 weeks later....KEEP IT UP!!!
posted 17-Dec-2008 2:41pm

can anyone tell me the diet plan they are taking with this pill..I am doing a great diet but looking for some foods to eat to go along with it..Something Different
posted 19-Dec-2008 12:47am

Amber and Victoria, I was curious to what your diet consists of and what exercise you do with the RFA-1? I am going to start taking it and was just curious to try what you tried because evidently you both have had good results so far :D

please share
posted 20-Dec-2008 3:16pm

no problem.....basically starting with the pill make sure you take it around the same time everyday this way your body adjusts to it faster. My diet consists of no carbs and if i do have carbs they are very low, next drink water constantly if you get sodas make sure they are diet. Now everybody is different but I dont eat breakfast I've never really been the one to eat in the morning.....oh and the biggest one is do not eat after 6 or 7 pm just with that alone you will see a difference if you stick with it. Now i personally dont do hardcore workouts...I just walk and run for about 45 minutes, but don't do that everytime because you will get burned out on mix it up and turn on some music and dance for about 30 minutes I really hope I helped you a lil bit and best of I'm not going to lie the first 3 days are the hardest but just stay strong and you can do it....
check out my myspace page and see the pics so you know i'm not lieing lol
posted 20-Dec-2008 4:28pm

thankss that really did help a ton. im the same way as you..i dont eat in the morning and i never have its just not me..i guess in general i just dont eat that much i never realy have an appetite. I dont drink soda so that wont be hard for me, and i never eat after 7 so all in all were about the same lol. I usually do walk but i will start changing it cause i am getting bored with it. Thanks for everything and definetly keep in touch. Its easier when you have support from other people doing the same thing :D

my email is
email me whenever you want.

thanks again!!
posted 21-Dec-2008 4:40pm

I have read everyone's post on this page. I bought three bottles of the new RFA-1 over a month ago, but have not had the courage to use them. Now, I feel more comfortable after having read Victoria's and Amber's posts ( thank you guys for sharing your experiences). I will start taking the pill tomorrow. I have a gym membership, so I am committed to follow a good diet and exercise plan, and use the new RFA-1 to curb my appetite. My weight today is 151 lbs, and my goal is to weigh 123 lbs. I am 5'3. I will post again a week from tomorrow to let you know how I am doing.
posted 22-Dec-2008 8:17pm

Thanks, Brad for the info on the ECA stack. I used to take the original formula and pretty much lost weight eating cookies all day-that's how good it worked. I am going to order this stuff and hope it works.
posted 23-Dec-2008 9:17am

Brad, I like most people on here lost a good bit of weight taking RFA-1. Here is my question to you: I purchased the Kaizen ephedrine 8mg & am going to try the stack you talked about. Not sure what the difference is between the RFA-X and RFA-1 that is on the market now. I purchased the RFA-X & want to take that with the ephedrine, what do you think of this?
posted 23-Dec-2008 10:06am

Has anyone ever used white willow bark instead of asprin in the ECA stack? Its supposed to be less irritating on the stomach and it was in the original Xenadrine.
posted 28-Dec-2008 12:02pm

Hello I ordered my Ephedrine HCL 8mg today. I hope to get it within a week. I currently use the new RFA-1 and have not seen any results. I'm currently 179lb and wish to lose 25, I haven't exercised as much over the holidays, but will start back running in the morning, since I have to get up for work anyway. I've been off for the past week. Victoria, my 3 day detox starts today, I'm cutting down my carbs and don't plan to eat after 7pm...wish me luck.
posted 29-Dec-2008 9:21am

It has been a week since I started using the new RFA-1. My total weight loss as of this morning is 1.5 lbs. I take the recommended dosage three times a day. I missed a dose a couple of days. I did not work out as I planned because las week was Christmas week... I don't eat as much as I used to, but I have my breakfast, lunch, and dinner. No junk food or fast food. I do feel that the weight loss is mainly water loss.
Victoria, You mentioned having lost 10 lbs in 2 wks. Are you using the pill alone or combining it with ephedra? Amber, how is you weight loss going? Do you recommend I combine xenadrine with ephedra? And Finally Sheri, can you please share your results so far from using Zenalean? As I mentioned in an earlier post I have 25 to 30 lbs to loose. Thank you guys and happy new year!!!
posted 29-Dec-2008 3:38pm

I just went out today and bought the new Xenadrine RFA-1. Now that I have read everyones posts, I am a little more confident in starting the product. I am wanting to loose 30-35 pounds. Hopefully I will see sucess. I will keep everyone updated!
posted 29-Dec-2008 6:41pm

I don't consume ephedra reason being it isn't good for you and if anyone is using it I recommend they stop because in the long run your heart could give out or you could develop health issues just like a family member of mine...why do you think they stopped putting it in pills, sure it works but trust me it is not worth it. I only take the pill and so far i'm down 15 lbs now....20 more to go, and please whatever y'all do don't skip meals because that actually slows down the metabolism. I know I'm not an expert but I know enough to make it work. Y'all keep me updated on the progress and feel free to write me if you have a question!
posted 29-Dec-2008 6:42pm

Great job DeeDee! just remember don't go without eating even if you don't feel hungry try to eat a little something because it helps burn the fat! Good Luck
posted 30-Dec-2008 2:08pm

CVS around by my house still has this on the shelf i bought it yesterday not realizing it was no longer being sold. i think they were selling old inventory not realizing it was pulled from shelves.
posted 30-Dec-2008 2:36pm

sorry guys I haven't been on here over the holidays..benn so busy..BUT an update for you all..THIS PILL WORKS..I went home and everyone knew i had lost weight. im in texas my husband is working here from the storm but live in ga so we went back to GA and everyone knew i had lost weight..I didnt take my pill christmas eve or day because i ate everything lol..BUT DID NOT GAIN thats a plus with me. actually i got a detox. and lost a pound so everything is great!
posted 5-Jan-2009 5:50pm

Ok just started the ECA stack!
posted 5-Jan-2009 9:37pm

Well I'm new to this diet and I wanna lose 30 to 40lbs. I'm a thick 214 right now and I jsut purchase my 1st bottle of xenadrine rfa1 I did have doubts at first intil I came across amber and victoria I don't wanna do this alone so I'll keep ya'l posted good luck everyone
posted 7-Jan-2009 12:26am

keep your eyes open and focus..TRUST me you can do it..This diet is amazing..I ran out of pills and could tell the differnce without them I just ran out today and Im gonna g purchase my next bottle 2morrow..I felt more hungry today and wanted to eat. But when i take the pill it made my cravings go away and I ate less food when i ate because i was so full..But the diet really works and I know you can do..I'm here for you all! Glad we all can talk about this

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