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Xenadrine RFA-1



Summary


Xenadrine RFA-1 was a discontinued Ephedra-based diet pill.


Description


Xenadrine RFA-1 was one of the most popular brands of Ephedra-based diet pills. It's a stimulant that reduces your appetite and causes you to burn more calories as well.

But, Ephedra was banned by the FDA after 2003. It was linked to many deaths. It causes your heart rate and blood pressure to go up. So, it can cause heart-attacks in people with weak hearts.

Xenadrine RFA-1 is no longer available in the USA.


History


Xenadrine RFA-1 was made by Cytodyne Technologies. Since it was discontinued, they have put an Ephedra-free product on the market, Xenadrine EFX.


Criticism


Ephedrine has been shown to have serious adverse effects, include hypertension (elevated blood pressure), palpitations (rapid heart rate), neurophathy (nerve damage), myopathy (muscle injury), psychosis, stroke, memory loss, heart rate irregularities, insomnia, nervousness, tremors, seizures, heart attacks, and death.

Also, studies have shown that Ephedrine-based supplements only provide short-term weight loss.




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Related Diets:   Stimerex   Xenadrine EFX   Nuphedragen   Phentramine   Phenhermine  


  29-Jun-2006 9:42am created by bill
  29-Jun-2006 9:57am last update by bill


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Anonymous916
posted 25-May-2010 8:01pm

@Kel
My loss is about the same. I'm at 145...So actually I lost a few more pounds since last time I wrote. I still take a stack twice a day. The effects arent as strong as in the begining but I notice if I forget to take them than I catch my self snacking a lot. So it's still working well for me. My meals are pretty simple and easy since I don't really cook much. For breakfast I usually have 1 cup of Special K cereal w/ 1 cup of non-fat organic milk or Soy milk ( whichever is cheaper when I go grocery shopping ) My lunch & dinner is still the same since I started this a year ago but i like it and it works for me so I stick with it. My lunch & dinner is always chicken breast ( frozen in the bag ) cooked in the foreman grill w/ just pepper and a little garlic salt and a bag of frozen veggies that I just throw in the microwave. This works best for me cause I just put my chicken in the grill veggies in the microwave and get out of the kitchen casue if I hang around in the kitchen I start snacking. For snacks in between I eat apple cinamon rice cakes w/ natural peanut butter, carrots w/ low fat dip, granola bars, apples w/ carmel dip or low fat yogurt etc. One thing I do which I feel makes a big difference is I measure everything out. Like the amount of peanut butter I use, veggie dip, milk, everything. That way I have a more acurate idea of calories. I'm not a big calorie counter I just kinda keep track in my head so I dont go overboard. I only drink water or sometimes diet cherry pepsi. But anything else to me is just waisted calories. And the biggest thing is I dont eat any fast food anymore! That was the hardest but it had to be done and now I dont miss it at all. So anyhow that's an idea of my eating regimen. Like I said earlier I still have my "off" days here in there where I eat out or eat sweets but I just make sure to get right back on track the following day and if I fall off the next day again I just start over the following day after that. As long as you dont keep it going for long and get back on track it usually doesnt take a toll on your weight.
Preston
posted 25-May-2010 8:48pm

All of us should meet up one day and start a coalition of Ephedra users =P
Brad
posted 25-May-2010 9:40pm

hahaha that would be interesting, Preston. Anonymous916 and I live in the same city so I guess that would be easy enough.

I've been off the stack pretty much this entire year and yesterday I took one Ma Huang pill because I was feeling a little tired on my way back to work from lunch. An hour later I was so amped that I actually got nauseous and threw up. It was weird. I think this weekend I am going to jump on the bronkaid stack to see how that works.
kel
posted 26-May-2010 10:44am

@Anonymous916
Thanks for the info, that's awesome! I don't know if I could stick to the same lunch and dinner meal for a year, though. I've been branching out on my veggies (spaghetti squash, radishes, red bell peppers) and purchasing alot of fresh produce. It took me 3 days, but this morning I was back to the weight I was before my "bad" weekend, 175.8. Monday was actually my month mark of being on the stack.
@Brad
While you have been off any stack, did you gain much?
Brad
posted 26-May-2010 11:10pm

@Kel

A little, but nothing substantial. The killer for me is snacking before bed. Other than that, I don't really have any bad habits during the day.
Judy
posted 27-May-2010 4:41pm

Has anyone here ordered from www.energyreload.net recently? I've read nothing but amazing things about them so I ordered some E&C three days ago and haven't received any shipping information. Just now I checked their website and it no longer exists!! What gives?!?! I'm freaking out because I dropped a pretty large sum of money. Tried emailing them too (the only address I have is the one they emailed me the payment confirmation with: info@snddirect.net) and got an automatic response saying it was rejected by the recipient domain. WTF.
KH
posted 29-May-2010 8:32am

Judy, Same here, but I did get a tracking number and the only thing it has been saying is that the order has been electronically submitted, not actually recieved. I placed my order on the 23rd, I also tried emailing at info@energyreload.net. and got the same rejected message. Is anyone else having trouble? Judy have you checked with your credit card to see if they actually charged the item to it?
Anonymous
posted 1-Jun-2010 4:44pm

Judy & KH, I also ordered on the 23rd, and got the same messages. Something is not right because i've ordered from the company for a few years and never had a problem. SOMEONE or SOME-AGENCY seems to be shutting down their business?
LKA
starstruck
posted 1-Jun-2010 6:20pm

Well I just ordered some kaizen ephedra hcl so I'll let you guys know how to it works! I have a low body temp 96.8-97.0 average. I'm pretty sure the only way for me to lose weight is to get the temp up. ephedra is a thermogenic so we'll see how it goes! I had great success with xenadrine rfa-1 in 2002. It sounds like kaizen hcl is the closest type of ephedra to the stuff that was in rfa-1. Correct me if i'm wrong!
Judy
posted 2-Jun-2010 5:37pm

OK so I spoke too soon--actually it appears that they did NOT take my money and that they stopped the transaction somehow cuz it's no longer even in the "pending" section when I check my statement online, thankfully.

This sucks so bad, though. I don't know of anywhere else to get pure ephedrine HCL and I really, really want some. I can't believe how bad my timing was. Are there any other sites out there that aren't scams? Thanks guys for the responses.
KH
posted 2-Jun-2010 11:41pm

@ starstruck
Where did you order from?
Anonymous916
posted 3-Jun-2010 2:42am

@Judy
When I was on ephedrine HCL I ordered the Kaizen brand which is 8mg tabs in a 50 count bottle for $4.99 through gorilla jack dot com. It comes from canada so shipping is kinda expensive. I think it was like $15 but if you order a bunch of bottles than it would be worth it. I made the mistake of only ordering 2 bottles which lasted less than a month....The shipping was real fast and I had a good experience with them.
kel
posted 6-Jun-2010 6:54pm

It seems I can not break 10 lbs! I am currently at 9.4 lbs lost since Apr 24th. I added "DailyBurn" to my program to keep track of weight loss, nutrition, and workouts. I signed up for a 30 day Weight Loss Training Plan on DailyBurn so it is kind of like a personal trainer. I started the workout today on the stack and I pushed myself alot harder than I would have without it.
kel
posted 9-Jun-2010 4:19pm

Well, I finally hit the 10 lbs. mark. I woke up Tuesday and was down a total of 10.4 lbs. The DailyBurn.com site it really helping me keep track of my eating. Hopefully, the addition of working out, healthier eating habits, and DailyBurn.com will push me and the stack to it's fullest potential.
KH
posted 11-Jun-2010 7:42am

Judy & Anonymous, I still haven't any new info on my order from energyreload.net, tracking still says electronic order recieved and my credit card was charged. Anonymous, did they charge your credit card? Anyone have information if this company changed their name or how to make contact with them ?
Brad
posted 14-Jun-2010 5:06pm

Okay, today is day 1 of the Bronkaid/Aspirin/Caffeine stack. Took my first dose about an hour ago and it's already hitting hard (but not in a bad way). Dare I even say it elevates my mood? Feels like the perfect amount of energy, appetite suppressant and alertness.

Fingers crossed.
Shell
posted 14-Jun-2010 5:09pm

The same thing has happened to me from energyreload.net. I was charged but never received anything. I called my credit card company but they said they didn't have any information on the company. The only thing they said was that the company was in Virginia.
kel
posted 15-Jun-2010 2:47pm

@Brad
Have you not done the Bronkaid/Aspirin/Caffeine stack in the past? I could have sworn you had.
Brad
posted 15-Jun-2010 3:36pm

@Kel

I have never used Bronkaid as the ephedrine element. I've used HCL in the past. HCL was the first experiment that I tried. It wore off incredibly fast, though. Towards the end of using HCL I was taking almost 50mg of it and it wasn't doing anything for me which is why I stopped.

Bronkaid doesn't hit nearly as hard as the Ma Huang that I have. I fell off the wagon because the Ma Huang was just so intense that I couldn't bring myself to take it every day. I really didn't like how jittery it made me. Today being day 2 of Bronkaid, it's much easier to tolerate. Hopefully I'll see some positive results within a week.
Anonymous916
posted 17-Jun-2010 3:53pm

Hey Brad, Glad to hear your trying out the Bronkaid. I hope it works well for you. I feel like I've been on this pause for what seems like months now, where I just cant loose any decent amount of weight. I've been around 146-149 for what seems like forever. About 1 1/2 weeks ago I got so discouraged that I started drifting to my old ways and I can feel the weight gain / bloating feeling I used to get from eating unhealthy. So I got back on track 2 days ago and hopefully can stick with it...I'm leaving for vacation in a few days hopefully I can make it through this.
Brad
posted 17-Jun-2010 3:55pm

@Anonymous916

How much weight have you dropped total using Bronkaid?

It sounds to me like your body built up a tolerance to the dose you were taking. Taking the time off that you did should help out when you start it again (which you already have).
Anonymous916
posted 17-Jun-2010 3:56pm

@ Kel
BTW after reading your post, I just joined the daily burn. I'm reading about it right now to see how it works.
kel
posted 18-Jun-2010 4:06pm

@Brad
Hopefully the lower intensity of Bronkaid will work out well for you. I have noticed my morning dose does get me kind of on edge if I don't have breakfast with it. The moment I have an apple or some cottage cheese, I feel leveled out again. Water also seems to dilute any jitters. If I start feeling super shaky, I down 2 bottles of water and I feel better.
@Anonymous916
Let me know what you think about Daily Burn! I have it on my iPod Touch so when I go to the gym I can update it immediately with calories burned, # of sets, # of reps, etc. It makes you stay accountable and aware of what you input and output. Also, I love the daily calorie breakdown pie chart and body weight line graph.
Brad
posted 19-Jun-2010 9:10pm

Sounds crazy and I'm still a little in disbelief, but I've already dropped between 4-6lbs in just 6 days. I don't trust my scale that much so I can't say for sure what the amount is exactly, but I know for sure pounds have been shed. Fingers crossed that this keeps up. The appetite suppressant is perfect and so is the amount of energy. Wish I would have tried Bronkaid sooner.
Anonymous
posted 19-Jun-2010 10:16pm

Does Primatine work the same as the Bronkaid for the stack?
Brad
posted 20-Jun-2010 12:47am

@Anonymous

Couldn't say. Being that Primatine is pseudoephedrine and Bronkaid is ephedrine sulfate, they are completely different chemical makeups.
Preston
posted 20-Jun-2010 5:05pm

Haha! That-a-boy, Brad. Join the darkside of the Bronkaid =P I've been taking it lately, too. Finally made my decision to lose it. I kept losing motivation, but now I typed this letter to myself, put it on my desktop, and I have to read it everyday- haha.

It's working so far. Dropped about 4lbs in less than a week's time. I love this forum.
kel
posted 21-Jun-2010 10:58am

@Brad
What appetite suppressant are you taking? Do you feel like the Bronkaid stack is an appetite suppressant?
Brad
posted 21-Jun-2010 4:03pm

@Kel

The ECA stack in general should provide an appetite suppressant. All I am taking right now Bronkaid, Aspring and Caffeine.
Brad
posted 21-Jun-2010 9:27pm

Aspring? hahaha. Aspirin.
kel
posted 22-Jun-2010 12:20pm

@Brad
I guess I don't feel the appetite suppressant aspect of the Bronkaid stack that much because I didnt think it had it. I made myself think it didnt have that effect so I didnt allow myself to feel it....hmm.
xtina
posted 24-Jun-2010 5:12am

Love this site..brad, great advice...I too have been looking for a product like xenadrine with ma huang..closest one I founf was yellow bullet...doesn't work as good...and it's the only pill that makes me want to kill someone..lol..maybe too much caffeine? it's nuts..I just bought the xenadrine ultra..I don't understand too much about all the stacking...but I heard you say to buy ma huang pills to take with the xenadrine...first off..do you take 2 xenadrine and 1 ma huang per dose? and what mg ma huang? and where do you buy the ma huang? I know it's sold all over the internet...but is there a solid website with a solid brand you recommend that really is pure ma huang?? any help would be appreciated.. I have 10-15 pounds I just cant seem to get off even with exercise...it's drivin me crazy and making me very unmotivated..HELP BRAD! HELP:)
xtina
posted 24-Jun-2010 5:15am

I also really need to suppress my appetite...can't find anything that won't make me want to eat my kitchen...lol:)
Brad
posted 24-Jun-2010 10:52am

@Xtina

I feel stupid admitting this, but I don't remember what the site was called where I ordered my ma huang through. I'm sure I posted it on here around the time that I did do it. At the moment I really recommend you try the Bronkaid stack. It can be bought at any CVS pharmacy (or even online).
xtina
posted 24-Jun-2010 1:38pm

it's ok:) ok..so the bronkaid stack? now what is that exactly? hehe:) Is that what its called? do I take that with the xenadrine ultra? and how many with my xenadrine...so sorry for all the questions..I really dont know much about this stuff:)
xtina
posted 24-Jun-2010 7:03pm

Brad, I hope you didn't take it the wrong way when I said it's ok...didnt mean your stupid or anything...just that don't feel that way sort of thing when I said it's ok...just want to clarify..:)
kel
posted 25-Jun-2010 9:28am

Update: lost 15 lbs so far. 44 lbs to go!
Brad
posted 25-Jun-2010 9:25pm

@Kel

What stack are you using?
Brad
posted 25-Jun-2010 10:49pm

@Xtina

No worries. Didn't take offense to anything you said.

The Bronkaid stack is just 1 pill of Bronkaid, 1 pill of NoDoz (caffeine) and 1 aspirin. I take it 3 times a day (upon waking up at 8am, 1pm, 4pm). If you're using Xenadrine, I would just take 1 Bronkaid each time you take a Xenadrine.
xtina
posted 25-Jun-2010 11:47pm

Brad, you are awesome!!!! Thank you!
Preston
posted 27-Jun-2010 11:26am

Hey Brad,

I know you're not a doctor or anything, but since everyone just asks you questions, I'll jump on the bandwagon =P You think it's safe to do 3 ECA stacks a day, using 2 Bronkaids/1 caffeine/1 aspirin? I know you take 1 Bronkaid with your stack, but I've been using 2 since I started (6'3"/230lbs). Max recommended dosage for Bronkaid is no more than 6 per 24 hours, but I don't know if they had ECA stacks in mind when they made the label. I don't really have much tolerance built up or anything (I stopped taking them for like a month, just started back a week or so ago), and I can feel it affecting me for a few hours after I do one, but I just wonder if it will accelerate the process a bit (I have been on pace doing 2 stacks a day, followed by a 1.5mi jog when I get off work everyday. Any insight is appreciated, man.
Brad
posted 27-Jun-2010 3:14pm

Today, my scale is telling me I've dropped 11lbs since the 14th.

@Preston
If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't "fix" what isn't broken. If you've only been doing 2 doses a day and you have seen positive results, I don't see a reason to add another dose in there. We all want to see good results as fast as possible and no one can blame anyone for that, but from the sound of it you have a good thing going and I wouldn't play with it. If you take 6 Bronkaid a day, you'll be putting 150mg of ephedrine into your body. That's a lot! People need to keep in mind that your overall health is the most important thing to all of this. Rapid weight loss is a great feeling, but heart problems are not. Be smart and be safe, Preston.
kel
posted 29-Jun-2010 4:58pm

@Brad
The ECA stack I am taking is 2 Bronkaids, 1 NoDoz, and 1 low dose aspirin twice a day.
V
posted 30-Jun-2010 9:49pm

ok so now i want to jump on the bronkaid bandwagon!! I just don't understand, what makes it so different than the Ma huang we all tried before?

Brad - any ideas??

anyone? I'm about to go buy some!
Brad
posted 1-Jul-2010 2:40am

@V

I really don't know. It's just 25mg of ephedrine sulphate per pill. It works really well, though. Definitely better than anything I've tried yet with the exception of Phentermine, but that caused some serious mood issues that weren't worth it.
Brad
posted 1-Jul-2010 2:46am

Just a side note, I did not mean that the Phentermine helped in weight loss. Just that it supplied a good amount of appetite surpression. The side effects of Phentermine are not worth it.
kel
posted 1-Jul-2010 10:05am

Update: lost 16.6 lbs so far. 42.8 lbs to go!
Brad
posted 1-Jul-2010 4:14pm

Congratulations, Kel! How long have you been on this stack?
Anonymous
posted 2-Jul-2010 9:28pm

Ok You all seem so be having success with the Bronkaid Stack. I was using Primatine instead and had massive energy but no weight loss. I recently switched to the Bronkaid but now I have no energy. It is too soon to determine if I have lost any weight. I am taking 1 Bronkaid, 1 Jet Alert and 1 baby aspirin. Should I up the dose to 2 Bronkaid with the stack?
V
posted 3-Jul-2010 11:17am

hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm#aspirin

dr-bob.org/babble/20011222/msgs/87687.html

two GREAT websites on the ECA stack that both discuss hcl and sulfate....

remember to type www. before the site. i tried but this was the only way i could post the link

plus, choosing primatene over bronkaid and vice versa i believe just takes some experimenting as to which works better depending on your body. today is day 3 on my stack with the bronkaid and i am overjoyed.

remember not to take it right before a work out, but rather 30 min before meals that is when it works best.
kel
posted 6-Jul-2010 9:18am

@Brad:
I've been on the stack since April 24th. I'm not hitting my goal of 10 lbs lost a month but slow and steady wins the race :)
Bob
posted 6-Jul-2010 1:09pm

I take claritin d for my allergies and noticed it contains pseudoephedrine. I'm curious as to how this might effect someone taking an ECA stack. Anybody have an idea ? Does it effect the body the same way as ephedrine?
CookiePuss
posted 6-Jul-2010 1:19pm

I don't think anything can compare to the original stacker 2 type products. I lost alot of weight with them years ago but also exercised alot and was roofing. I didn't care much about appetite suppression, it was the energy I liked. I hated the stacker 3--too much caffeine gave me headaches. Thats the thing with most of these imitations today, they have 300mg of caffeine. :(

I tried Kaizen ephedrine HCL which did nothing. A very slight boost in energy that faded quickly. Then I tried Yellow ECA which lists Sida Cordifolia (25mg epehdrine group alkaloids) + other junk like caffeine. All it did was give me a headache. I have Bronkaid on the way to give that a whirl. Also, I ordered from energy reloaded without any problems and also from guriella jack which was cheaper.

The only other product I was looking at was the original Yellow Bullet. Claims to have Ma Huang (aerial part)(standardized for 25mg of naturally-occurring ephedra group alkaloids). I seen xtina mention it but said it wasnt good? Did you take the one with ma huang or the Ephedra Extract (25 mg Ephedra Nevadensis)one? I know Nevadensis is complete garbage.

It really is frustrating though. The original Mu Huang type pills had 5 different ephedra group alkaloids. Ephedrine was supposed to be the most active one which is why I'm stumped as to why the Kaizen HCL didnt do much for me. The FDA really needs to lift this stupid ban.
Bob
posted 7-Jul-2010 8:25am

Cookie

The ephedrine on it's own isn't what everyone is raving about. It's stacking it with the caffeine and the aspirin that is giving everyone the results your reading about. Someone posted links to info on the ECA stacks just a few posts up. Read through them and maybe give them a try since you have the bronkaid on order as it is. Everything else can be bought at your local drug store.
V
posted 7-Jul-2010 12:50pm

Cookie - the link i posted - the hotnfit one is apparently the go to website for all info bronkaid. i've seen it referenced numerous times on various forums as i spent hours and hours researching the stack as i am not on it and wanted to know the chances of it working. different things work for different people but apparently the consensus is that when taken properly the stack can for most people have beneficial effects.
Anonymous
posted 7-Jul-2010 10:22pm

Can you buy Bronkaid in Canada?
CookiePuss
posted 8-Jul-2010 4:01pm

Thanks for the replies. Bob, I do stack with caffeine(Kaizen 200mg) but usually forgo the asprin. I also usually don't take a caffeine pill in the AM since I drink 2-3 cups of strong coffee.

The old stacker 2 just gave a clean boost of energy that I cant seem to replace. Too much caffeine gives me a headache and shaky instead of energized. I was just surprised that the Ephedrine HCL+200mg caffeine stack didn't do much for me being that ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are the two main active alkaloids in Mahunag/Stacker2. The herbal ephedra from stacker I took once in the AM and I was good all day.

I just got my 2 boxes of Bronkaid in today so I'll see how that goes stacked with a 200mg caffeine pill. I'll probably take it tomorrow morning as it's getting late here. And thanks for the link V, I'm completely new to the world of Bronkaid.
V
posted 8-Jul-2010 5:35pm

Cookie - no problem! honestly, the links i posted are the best. in fact, i've even read somewhere that some suggest even adding fish oils to promote weightloss and balance out blood pressure. Aspirin is also taken to help even out the rise in blood pressure as a result of the E and C, and really for no other purpose. I take one 325 mg aspirin with one of my two doses a day for that reason, i'm considering the fish oil instead but am in no rush to go out and buy it. additionally, it has been suggested that one could also add green tea to their stack, which i've just begun doing as i have so much of it. i'm not yet up to 3 doses a day as i am very slowly building my tolerance to bronkaid.

so far the stack has been working for me... one week down, 4 lbs lost. as women we won't be losing as quickly as Brad or other men because men lose weight at a much faster pace than women do. but i am ecstatic about the 4 lbs as i havent lost that much weight within one week in a long time. i'm hoping to lose 6 lbs within the next 3 weeks which hopefully is feasible which will bring me to a combined weightloss of 15 lbs since May 1st. i'll keep everyone updated.
Bob
posted 12-Jul-2010 7:13am

I tried going to sndonline.net this morning to order some more ephedrine hcl but the site seems to be down. Has anybody had any experience with gorillajack.com? It's the only other place that's coming up with kaizen hcl.
Brad
posted 12-Jul-2010 3:56pm

@Bob

Can't say for sure, Bob. What about trying the Bronkaid stack?
GettinToIt
posted 13-Jul-2010 5:59pm

How much aspirin do you take with this stack? like mg?
Anonymous
posted 13-Jul-2010 10:33pm

gettintoit - i HIGHLY suggest baby aspirin 81 mg. as two regular aspirins REALLY upset the stomach
V
posted 13-Jul-2010 10:33pm

ooops the above post was from me
Bob
posted 14-Jul-2010 12:22pm

@ Brad

I did the bronkaid stack until i realized i had some of the kaizen hcl still sitting in my cabinet. Turns out i actually had a whole lot more than i realized too so i wont be ordering any in the near future. I had picked up a substantial quantity before taking a break from the xenadrine/hcl combo last year. I've found the hcl to be more potent than the bronkaid even when only taking 2 8mg pills.

So far i'm down 30 lbs in the last 3 months. It actually only took 2 to lose all that and from there i've just been getting toned up a bit more.
CookiePuss
posted 14-Jul-2010 1:12pm

I've ordered from gorillajack twice and had my order within a week both times (Im in the US). They included a free sample, protein shake the first time and I think Gatorade powder the second time. They're a legit company, actually prefer them over snd personally.

I've been taking the Bronkaid + Yellow ECA but its just bleh. I can feel a little boost but nothing like the old stuff where I actually WANTED to jump on the treadmill or hit the weights. I guess it just depends on the person, but so far none of the new combos have given me the energy I was hoping for. In any case, congrats on the weight loss you guys achieved and good luck in the future!
Brad
posted 14-Jul-2010 9:39pm

@Bob

That's awesome, Bob! Congratulations on 30lbs!

@Cookie

If you aren't seeing any results with everything that has been discussed in this thread, you may want to actually go to a doctor to see if you can get Dexedrine. It is mainly prescribed for people who suffer from ADD, but it's second most common reason for being prescribed is for weight loss. The clinical name for it is Dextroamphetamine. Good luck.
Bob
posted 15-Jul-2010 8:02am

Thanks Brad!

Losing all the weight is expensive though. I way to small for most of my old pants now grin. I'd like to drop another 10 lbs but it seems that i've reached the weight that my body is comfortable with. So i guess i'll have to settle with just trying to lose that last bit of gut that i've still got. I'm sure if i get a bit more motivated about working out on a more regular basis it'll happen eventually.

What ate the rest of you guys doing for exercise along with the eca stack?
danes
posted 15-Jul-2010 2:34pm

hey Brad I've been reading your posts for few days now from the last few years... very informative i must say. I have a question since you seem quite experienced in Ephedrine stuff now anyways... bronkaid does not contain ephedra sinica which is the potent stuff I believe, right?? do you still recommend bronkaid over kaizen ephedrine HCL?? and does kaizen ephedrine HCL contain sinica or something else??

and where can one get hold of bronkaid outside the US? thanks for all your help Brad, truly wonderful reading through all your posts...
Brad
posted 15-Jul-2010 3:33pm

@Danes

I'm glad to hear that my experiences have helped you out on here. First and foremost, you need to understand that just because one stack works for one person, that doesn't mean it will work for the next person. I personally think the Bronkaid stack is better than anything else I've tried up to this point in trying to mimic the original RFA-1. People like Bob for instance have had better luck with the HCL stack. I know that you can order Bronkaid online, but I don't have any examples for you. A simple search on Google should provide you with useful resources.
danes
posted 15-Jul-2010 4:02pm

@ Brad just checked out the ingredients and Bronkaid contains theophylline, the exact same ingredient is also found in Do-Do ChestEze avaiable as OTC medicine in the UK together with 18.31 mg of ephedrine. I have read elsewhere that theophylline can really mess one up if taken by healthy people without asthmatic conditions. What are your thoughts on that??
Danes
posted 15-Jul-2010 6:24pm

I just can't find a site that ships bronkaid to the UK... :( and bronkaid not available in the UK... sadness
Brad
posted 15-Jul-2010 6:48pm

@Danes

I'm not sure what Bronkaid you saw, but the one I've been taking only contains 25mg of Ephedrine Sulphate and 400mg of Guaifenesin.
danes
posted 16-Jul-2010 4:34pm

just ordered bronkaid from americarx.com, hope it gets delivered here... fingers crossed... @brad have u tried vasopro??? and yeah sorry my mistake, ure right Bronkaid contains exactly what you stated above... my bad...
Brad
posted 16-Jul-2010 10:54pm

@Danes

I've heard of people using Vasopro, but I've never used it.
Brad
posted 17-Jul-2010 1:05pm

@Danes

After doing a little more digging into Vasopro, it sounds like a complete rip-off. For 25 tablets, the price is $144 on Amazon. It's just 25mg of Ephedrine HCL.
danes
posted 17-Jul-2010 1:59pm

r u serious... that sure sounds like a scam...
Brad
posted 20-Jul-2010 9:30pm

As of today, I've lost a total of 20lbs using the Bronkaid stack and it doesn't seem to be slowing down.
Anonymous916
posted 21-Jul-2010 12:29pm

@Brad
Damnnnn 20lbs!!! Congratulations. You must feel great. I know once I start seeing the scale move it gives me so much more motivation. I was on vacation for 3 weeks and stopped taking the stack just casue I was so busy I didn't stop to think about taking it. And I was also eating however I wanted. I weighed myself when I got back and I didnt gain a pound! I'm sure the stack was still working thoroughout my system. I started again yesterday since I still want to loose 10-15 pounds....But yea, thats hella cool you lost the 20lbs. I havent heard of that much weight loss for you with the other experiments.
Brad
posted 21-Jul-2010 3:54pm

@Anonymous

It's good to splurge once in a while, so I wouldn't feel too bad about having FUN while on VACATION! :)

Nothing else has worked as well as this stack (both in price and results). One thing I did find out, though, is to avoid eating bananas when taking this stack (or any other ECA stack). Bananas are very high in B complex vitamins and that acts and a "soother" for your CNS, so it actually kills some of the potency of an ECA stack.
Preston
posted 22-Jul-2010 5:50pm

Anyone ever experiment with Niacin?
Brad
posted 22-Jul-2010 9:52pm

@Preston

I've used Niacin in the past, but never for the purpose of losing weight. When I was like 19 or 20, my brother in law told me that if you take a large quantity of Niacin it can flush your system of "toxins". It makes your skin really, REALLY warm. Kind of like when you have a sunburn, but without the pain.
Anonymous
posted 23-Jul-2010 2:09pm

@brad, good to know ure losing weight but can u confirm if you are losing fat or other body weight?? the reason i ask is i used this stack and lost 6 kgs. Before losing my BF was 17%. After I lost 8 kgs my BF is 16.9% but i lost 6kgs (that means I lost muscle and other stuff). And I look so horrible right now, skinny and ugly... was much better before. I actually wanted to lose fat but why is the wrong weight coming off?? I was perfect at 70kgs for my height and age and now I am 62 kgs which makes me look horrible. Had it been fat loss it would have great and superb.... plz help help .....

and yeah i was exercising and weight lifting heavy and takin my proteins and amino acids as well..... losing weight but not fat is what Bronkaid does...
Anonymous
posted 23-Jul-2010 2:10pm

lost 8 kgs (not 6kgs)
Anonymous
posted 23-Jul-2010 4:03pm

i think Bronkaid is good for people that need to reduce weight overall(obese or very heavy weight who want to reduce(fat loss or weight loss)... not for people looking for pure fat loss... im prime example... if ure skinny fat or normal weight but want to reduce fat... Bronkaid will reduce your weight but fat will remain the same... in other words u will reduce everything else other than fat... not what people really want... yet people talk about weight loss and not fat loss... keep enjoying weight loss... welcome to the world of skinny fat people... im depressed....
Brad
posted 23-Jul-2010 4:04pm

@Anonymous

I can confirm with 100% certainty that it has been fat that I have lost. I wear Levi's 511's and have actually had to buy new jeans, a new belt and new shirts since I've been on the Bronkaid stack. If you are losing muscle, but not fat, you are not eating enough. If you starve yourself, your body will burn muscle instead of fat. If you ARE eating enough, maybe you're eating too much or there is something else going on.

Just to confirm again, I am losing fat, not muscle.
Anonymous
posted 23-Jul-2010 5:18pm

@brad it suppressed my appetite so i cudnt eat, how do you manage it. I feel I am not hungry while on the Bronkaid stack, i guess that is why I lost muscle I guess ( if that is muscle, i am not sure). Do you have any tips for me?
Preston
posted 23-Jul-2010 5:33pm

Been off the ECA stack for a few weeks now to lower my tolerance. Did one this morning and I've been wired and sweaty all day =) I am going to order the Ma Huang again, though- I got crazy results from the Ma Huang- even moreso than the Bronkaid. Glad to hear everyone is getting closer to their goals! Keep the success stories coming.
Brad
posted 23-Jul-2010 6:11pm

@Anonymous

I know it's hard to eat when you don't feel hungry, but I promise you that your body needs food. Also, make sure you eat around the same time every day. And of course the obvious, don't eat fatty foods.
Anonymous
posted 23-Jul-2010 6:47pm

@brad, can you post your Bronkaid dosage online, like how many mgs u took with how much caffeine number of times everyday (preferably the times u took it during the day). I want to know since u had such good results from it.
And as for fatty foods I try to stick to my fish and flax seed oils.

Do you eat carbs while taking Bronkaid?? its carbs and not the fat that actually makes one fat? wont u agree??
Anonymous916
posted 23-Jul-2010 9:25pm

I have to agree w/ the person who said that ECA stacks are for those who want to lose weight in general. I lost a little over 50 pounds while taking the stack and the benefits from it are a suppresed appetite and more energy. After awhile of taking it and loosing weight I feel it made me more consious of the type of foods I was eating and helped me become more active, since I had so much energy. I take 1 bronkaid, and 1 200mg caffenie pill ( usually jet alert since it's cheaper than NoDoz ), twice a day. I'm a female, started at 200 pounds now down to about 148. I've noticed the guys usually take it 3 times a day.
Brad
posted 23-Jul-2010 9:53pm

@Anonymous

My routines are generally very, very similar, so I'll post what I did today. However, I have just recently bumped up my dosage to 2 Bronkaids at a time. I recently told someone on here that taking 2 Bronkaids per dose seemed excessive, but I now see where they were coming from (tolerance builds fairly quickly).

8:00: Wake up. Take 2 Bronkaid/1 200mg NoDoz/1 300mg Aspirin.

9:00: I got to work and ate an apricot ClifBar.

12:30: I go home for lunch and take my next dose of 2 Bronkaid/1 200mg NoDoz/1 300mg Aspirin. I had a hard boiled egg and a small serving of cottage cheese for lunch with non sweetened home made iced tea.

4:00: I take my final dose for the day of 2 Bronkaid/1 NoDoz/1 300mg Aspirin and ate a blueberry ClifBar.

It is now 6:49 and I will be eating dinner shortly. Not sure what I'm going to eat yet, but it will be less than 600 calories. My total caloric intake for the day is right around the 1200 mark. I also drink about 2 large bottles of Smart Water each day.

As far as my opinion on carbs vs. fat, I don't personally look at carbs as an enemy. I don't over indulge in them with pastas and breads, but I don't go out of my way to avoid them. Carbohydrates are converted into energy. Obviously if you are not active, those same carbs are turned into fat if they are not used. It really depends on your lifestyle. If you sit in a chair all day, then I would avoid carbs.
danes
posted 24-Jul-2010 7:38pm

@brad, congrats on your remarkable results! keep it going bud, you are an inspiration to all of us here and your knowledge and suggestions on different stacks is truly appreciated and indeed very helpful.
Jennifer
posted 25-Jul-2010 1:40am

I may never find this site again. But i took the original xenedrine for four years maintaining my weight at 120 pounds for four years. It seems nothing works any more and i am so so so disgusted. it seems as soon as the doctors found out that no one had to come to them to lose weight they had something to do with getting it off the market. Ok they give you all these diet aid (prescription) that constipate you and you dont lose weight. With the original formula i drank alot of water and could go to the bathroom. I have been on the diet aid prescription and haven't lost a pound. My blood pressure is up. I think people should raise some hell and get it back!!!!!!!
Preston
posted 25-Jul-2010 7:07pm

"I think people should raise some hell and get it back!!!!!!"

Hell yeah, Jennifer.
Brad
posted 26-Jul-2010 1:14am

@Danes

No thanks is needed. Really. I was in the same shoes as most of you 2 years ago when I found this page. I know how frustrating it is trying to find REAL information on ECA stacks, so I figured this was as good a place as any to start posting that information. :)
danes
posted 26-Jul-2010 6:33am

@brad, another question... i ordered bronkaid from americarx.com and they are asking for photo identification. Is it safe to email them photo identification. It is for shipment abroad. Did u have to provide photo identification when buying Bronkaid??
Bob
posted 26-Jul-2010 9:36am

Danes

Yes you do have to provide photo id in the states to get bronkaid.

I've taken 2 weeks off of the stack. I started feeling sick a couple weeks ago so i stopped all together. Being sick for a week ended up causing my to lose 5 lbs and get be under 180, which i had been trying to do unsuccessfully. I started the stack back up this morning using bronkaid instead of the hcl so we'll see how this goes. I also slacked off on exercise while sick so i'm starting that back up today as well. I'd like to get down to a lean 170 if i could. But maybe that just isn't possible.
danes
posted 26-Jul-2010 3:42pm

thanks, but is there a problem sending photo id to americarx.com. I know someone who did and he started gettin calls from agents where he got Bronkaid and all... dont know if he really did but thats what i heard...
Brad
posted 26-Jul-2010 4:02pm

Bob is 100% correct. You have to show your ID here in the US in order to purchase any product that contrains ephedrine or pseudoephedrine. You are only allowed to purchase up to 9 grams in any 30 day period (1 box of 60 Bronkaid equals 1.5 grams). It has to do with limiting people access to the main ingredient in Methamphetamine.

@Bob

It sounds like you and I are aiming for the same goal (170lbs). Fingers crossed for you!
danes
posted 27-Jul-2010 5:36am

ordered Bronkaid from americarx.com, first they ask for photo id, when i sent them photo id they cancelled the order saying cannot ship due to export regulations... what a lovely service, absolute genius... couldn't have let me known before that they could not ship... now i have to wait god knows how many days before my card gets refunded ( if it ever does) fingers crossed... Bottom Line... Bronkaid cannot be shipped from the US to UK... period...

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